Nice unboxing... great insights here. George keeps dropping gems👍🏾
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Luis! I just came across 2 of your videos. 1. You talked about your cassette choices for fast group rides in South Florida I want to do a reaction video for Southern California 2. Your tips on searching for a steel bike. I need to watch that one I have it saved to a folder for today Cheers mate!
@chrisgress4086
Жыл бұрын
Myself I couldnt handle 2k for a set of wheels. Luckily I build my own and still lace up 36 spoke due to my heft. 32mm tires are the norm for me here in WV. Been on Gatorskins for several years and they have been great tires for me, handle rough roads and were surprising on some of the gravel i have been on. Keep the videos coming. I agree with you that the frames are beefed up due to disc brakes.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
As a Retro Grouch I love reading sensible comments from viewers like you. To wit, you know that 36 spoked wheel is an appropriate wheelset, in your words, due to your heft I see large riders not wanting to be left out of whatever the latest fad might be such as; aero this or lightweight that and then their equipment fails prematurely compared to something not as fancy not as gimmicky but instead, more robust and more appropriate for them. Thanks for watching and thank you for taking the time to make a comment. Have you considered subscribing to my channel?
@cidron3843
8 ай бұрын
Greetings from Thailand. Looks like you couldn’t refuse that offer. Great video.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
8 ай бұрын
Not at all! I am building a Frankenstein bike with a mix of 12 speed and 11 speed mechanical disc 😉 and using those wheels
@n22pdf
Жыл бұрын
Nice wheels George.. you deserve many more subscribers roll on 3k subs man 👍👍🤩🏅🚴then 5k
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Thank You sir! Tell me why you believe I deserve more subscribers Pete. Thank you for watching!
@n22pdf
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad great content, honest information from a bike shop owner and an awesome rider 😀😀👍😀
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
@@n22pdf Thank You for the kind words. I’ll keep being true to myself and hope to build the channel with people that like my approach. Do you follow me on Strava yet? Are you on it! You can follow me on Strava www.strava.com/athletes/5473
@n22pdf
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad thanks George just followed 👍
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
@@n22pdf Thank You sir! If I can stay healthy with this left leg injury you should expect epic things this year
@cmarnold78
Жыл бұрын
Domane comes with 32mm standard and up to 38mm but can fit 40mm easy.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Wow!! Thank You for keeping up to date!
@Simbostyle
Жыл бұрын
Just a quick question, I thought the 12 speed wheels were back compatible with 11 speed groupsets, or is it the other way round?
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Great question and I should have covered it in the video. You can put 12 speed cassette on an 11 speed hub. You can not put an 11 speed cassette on a 12 speed hub.
@Simbostyle
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad thanks.
@pgeldof1
Жыл бұрын
Hi George, didn't"t you make a mistake in weighing the C50 rear wheel? I think you included the weight of the protection cap. You pressed the Tare button. As always a nice video.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct thank you for catching that ... 10:39 the weight would be 821-6= 815 grams Thank you
@pgeldof1
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Hi George, I think you have to subtract 6 grams. 821-6=815 🙂
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
@@pgeldof1 oh dear I’m all screwed up! 😂 let me fix my comment 😂
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
@@pgeldof1 maybe that’s why I’m not a weight weenie 😂
@ian_pedalz
Жыл бұрын
I’m not a hardcore retro grouch but the way the cycling industry is moving which is new products every year with claims of unnecessary improvements that are for sales or poorly designed/over engineered frames the industry is moving in the wrong direction. 32mm tires on a frame that’s as stiff as a board, I’ll stick to my “old” rim brake bike for now.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
I hear you Ian! The drivetrain speed product life cycle was 4-6 years. Now it seems it’s like 2 years. Yeah I call anything over 25 tires clown car tires on my bike. But they need those 32-34 mm tires to make their poorly designed overly stiff and non compliant disc brake bikes mimic what our rim brake bikes feel like with 23 mm tires 😂
@eprohoda
Жыл бұрын
epic unboxing. see ya.🎥
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Thank You for watching!!
@dsonyay
Жыл бұрын
They let you keep the bad set? Thats pretty good. Now you can replace the spokes and continue to use them? Or sell them :)
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
No sir I have to return the old set that’s why I commented that I had to strip them take off the valve and the rim tape. Their customer service is such that they send you the new set of wheels that you’re not without your equipment and then you send your old wheels back in the box of the new wheels. It’s one of the things I love about Shimano
@charlesmansplaining
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I did not warranty my Dura-Ace wheels through Shimano. Competitive Cyclist had me return the bad set for a credit and I had to purchase a new set in the mean time. I'm lucky to have other wheels I can use so I'm never down and out and can't ride my bike.
@longislandweirdo
4 ай бұрын
You didn't show the actual unboxing? I would like to know if rim tape comes in the box.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
4 ай бұрын
My bad! I’m not a traditional KZitem bike magazine - spit and polished and structured 😂 answer to your question though the tape comes installed. Maybe that’s why I didn’t need to do a traditional unboxing - just the wheels, spoke tool and valves. Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing.
@charliedillon1400
Жыл бұрын
So Shimano doesn't offer Dura Ace or Ultegra carbon wheels in rim brakes. They are dead to me.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
😂 I know it’s sad isn’t it?
@danieloutzen9802
18 күн бұрын
They offer dura ace wheels with rim brakes, but only tubular
@charlesmansplaining
Жыл бұрын
I don't get how Shimano can claim their Dura-Ace wheels are up there stating as "Top of the line". I purchased a set of the carbon C40 wheels from Competitive Cyclist and first ride had a problem. The cassette wobbled due to very bad machining. They took those back and I got another set. The bladed spokes kept twisting on their own in just around 100 miles I think. And the spokes seems cheap to me. I had that pair for about 3 weeks before listing them on Ebay. I will never buy Shimano wheels again. I build my own wheels using Boyd rims because they are the best rims I have come across in more than 20 years. I have Boyd Carbon 36 and a set of Shamal Carbons and I like them but I don't use them. I am now using an aluminum set of Boyd's I just built using ONYX Vesper hubs. What I don't like about aero wheels is the poor control in the winds. So the only time I will use carbon aero wheels is on days when the winds are calm.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Interesting experience you had with your Shimano wheels. I’ve ridden them for years and years and they always been exceptional. Materials and finish and the bearings and hubs have all been exceptional! The only wheels I was ever disappointed about were the C24 which had the clear coat come off on them but that wasn’t structural and Shimano did a warrant every time. I will continue but/ride Shimano wheels with my own hard earned money before I would ride someone else’s free sponsored wheels 😂
@charlesmansplaining
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad For most of my early years of cycling I always used Campagnolo wheels. I owned one set of Mavic the Carbone SLR (Junk) and Velomax a low end wheel. The one time I decided to use Shimano wheels and I bought the top end it turned out to be worse than some low end wheels I've had. I really think that in the last couple of years Shimano has cut costs on some quality priorities. Their bottom brackets suck too. You used to be able to get a Shimano bottom bracket like the UN## which were cheap and they were pretty good, but I have a new Dura-Ace bottom bracket sitting in the box because I tried it and it would barely spin it had so much drag. So I bought a Chris King. My Dura-Ace rear derailleur 9150 the carbon cage broke apart within just a couple of weeks, that was expensive to fix and it took almost 6 months to get the part. I had to buy another RD at over $600 so I could ride my bike. Now I have two of those Rear derailleurs. But it's all we get these days isn't it? Shimano has screwed the new development from other companies by hoarding all these patents. I don't like Shimano sometimes. But it's great when it works and is working well. Better than SRAM anyway.
@joelstads
Жыл бұрын
Retro grouch until you aren‘t…
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha nicely done Joel! Viewers on my channel need to understand that I have been a early adopter of every single technological advancement on bicycles! For example, I was using tubeless technology back in 2008. I was using Di2 in 2009 I was riding carbon bikes as far back as 1995, aero bars on my road bike can’t remember how far back I did that, using a time trial bike in my ultra races with deep section wheels in 2001, and super light weight tubular carbon wheels in 2000 I was always the guy showing up to group rides with “massive” cassettes of 11-27 back in 2000. I was also the guy riding 25 tires when everyone was still riding 21-23 tires back in 2003. In other words I am a retro grouch because of all the things I’ve used and tested over the years, and it’s from those experiences that I form my contrarian opinions
@joelstads
Жыл бұрын
I understand and appreciate your honest opinions. But it‘s these opinions you seem to undermine with the new build (12-speed, carbon deep-section wheels). I was just wondering why watching this video. In the end not every new trend is useful but not everything was better in the past.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
@@joelstads Thank You for the opportunity to discuss your doubts. I am and always will be a curious fellow. I was taking apart my radios when I was a kid tinkering with cars tinkering with motorcycles, aircraft engine mechanic in the Marine Corps and now I’m tinkering with bikes I like to test things I like to see what’s good about them and what’s bad about them I like to take things to the limit and see how they perform and whether they assist or inhibit me and my performance. You say you appreciate my opinions? if I don’t build, ride and test a 12 speed system with deep section wheels how can I comment on it and give an opinion or a true product evaluation? In the end, I am a cycling channel, and I think my viewing public expects for me to have an opinion, a strong opinion, potentially controversial, but at least have an opinion, and not be a marketing sales channel. I think my viewers expect me to test product latest and greatest , compare, and contrast to something older. Lastly, for the last 25 years, I’ve always owned the top tier frames, components, and clothing. I like nice stuff always have I’m very frugal and not wasteful and it takes me a long time to save and acquire the things I want. It’s never come easy and so I appreciate it even more than the next guy. My dad was super frugal. I would even go as far to say he was too cheap. He would buy things that wouldn’t last and then he’d have to buy it again. I scrimp and save for a long time to buy the one thing that I want and not have to buy it again. Now that brings us to these wheels in particular and this video. Back in 2017 I purchased a disc brake Bottecchia. Over the years I upgraded it to be a full Dura-Ace R9170 group set. Being a curious fellow, I wanted to have the latest and greatest disc brake technology to test and evaluate it for myself. It is because of that that I realize that rim brake is still fantastic. But now these wheels needed a warranty and the only thing available these days is 12 speed, also my Bottecchia has a cracked chainstay right where the disc brake caliper is mounted. The Bottecchia frame is getting a warranty as well. I guess it’s just another opportunity to state what I’ve always said that if it’s carbon it will break it’s not a matter of if but a matter of when. I will have to build a new frame with a new group set 12 speed Di2 because that’s all that’s available. Does this all make sense now?
@joelstads
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to give me your perspective. I know you‘re a different kind of cycling channel that‘s not just marketing the newest tech. That‘s why I follow you and not GCN. I appreciate your personal opinion about well tested products. Having said that I also expect a non-biased approach to new products. In my book a retro grouch will always prefer an older product, without really giving the new tech a chance. That’s why I’m not a fan of this name personally…Opinions are there to be reconsidered and maybe deep-section carbon wheels or wider tires are not so bad in the end. And that‘s what I said: Retro grouch until you aren‘t because you tested both. I‘m looking forward to you‘re final opinion of the wheels and your next build and hope for an open-minded approach. Keep up the good work!
@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Жыл бұрын
@@joelstads Thank You Joel! I appreciate your support.
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