All your research and theoretical charts are nice but it’s not a substitute for real world experience. After adding borates the water is instantly transformed - blindingly shimmery and noticeably silky smooth. The chlorine savings arise from lowering your target chlorine down from 7.5% to 5.0% of your CYA level. The algaestatic effect is so great that I actually did an experiment - I allowed the chlorine level to zero out for three weeks before I detected the first hint of algae. It’s was just a one time expense of $80 which quickly paid for itself. No algae for years now and way way less chlorine needed.
@joeshmoe9940
2 жыл бұрын
If I’m understanding this correctly, the borate buffering effect on pH rise only comes into play if the pH rise is caused by something other than just CO2 loss. Lower TA already provides a pH ceiling, unless there’s something else going on in a particular pool where the buffering effects of borate would help buffer that something else to thus prevent exceeding the CO2 equilibrium ceiling.
@OrendaTechnologies
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question. Our understanding is it buffers against rise in pH in two ways: boric acid can take on a hydroxide (OH-) to become borate, and borates reduce carbonate alkalinity which reduces pH ceiling. It should buffer against rise in pH for any reason.
@philgilmer4313
Жыл бұрын
Why the FUD....? Lowry stated FC should generally be 7% of CYA, but only 5% of CYA with 50ppm borates for effective sanitation.... If you have a pool that tends to have rising pH (which is typical with chlorine generators), this is really a no brainer.
@OrendaTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
FUD?
@philgilmer18
Жыл бұрын
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt..... Sales 101.... And that's your only question/comment?!
@chrisf2253
2 жыл бұрын
Great job guys. I learned a lot as always. I think Eric hit it on the head at the end regarding the claim of using less chlorine. If your pH stays low or in “proper range” ,your chlorine efficiency rate is higher than say an 8.0. I could see this claim being much more realistic if there was an ORP controller.
@OrendaTechnologies
2 жыл бұрын
Well, only if there’s no CYA in the water does pH control chlorine efficiency.
@mikeconnor3602
3 ай бұрын
So if I have a Labrador that swims everyday should I avoid Boric Acid?, or say keep it low at 30 ppm?
@OrendaTechnologies
3 ай бұрын
That’s up to you. Try to avoid letting the dog drink the water in any case.
@mikeconnor3602
3 ай бұрын
@OrendaTechnologies I think I am going to not use borate, my lab swims non stop, and it's hard to know if he's ingesting water. Thanks
@addrielperez9406
2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy a test to check borates level in my pool
@OrendaTechnologies
2 жыл бұрын
Different test kit manufacturers make them. Try Hach (aquachek), Taylor, LaMotte, etc.
@drdrew3
Жыл бұрын
The test strips are worthless because the range for each color tab is huge and the colors are nearly identical. The LaMotte SpinTouch gives a precise reading- just need to order the disc for this test and have access to the machine (Leslie’s)
@jayortiz8617
2 жыл бұрын
A few weeks back I noticed borates in the LSI Calculator but I’m not seeing it now? Will it make a comeback on the app?
@jayortiz8617
2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. I found the option in the settings area. Really glad it’s in the app. Thank you! I am a borates user. I do think it’s helped me “rule my pool” a little better by slowing down PH rise and helping to keep it below the ceiling. I sanitize mostly with liquid chlorine and I have a couple water features and so this helps slow down the spike of PH and seems to keep a lid on it. I’ve started to include a couple Orenda products (control metals and enzyme addition) and pool seems to enjoy them so far. Thx for the education and also to the late great Bob Lowry.
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