Hey, folks! These analysis videos are based on suggestions from our Patreon patrons, so if you have a song you'd like to suggest, just head on over to www.patreon.com/12tonevideos and pledge at any level! Anyway, here's some more thoughts on this song: 1) I didn't get to this part, but one of my favorite sections happens about a minute in, where they extend the melody by adding a couple bars of string tremolo in between each phrase. It starts out with a standard two-bar figure but then as the section develops it starts to get shorter, and the way it slowly collapses back to its original form is really cool. 2) This is, like, super specific, but I want to talk about the Cmi7b5 in bar 16. It's a C chord, so you'd naturally look at it as a kind of IV, but since it has the Gb (or, really, F#) it's got the leading tone, meaning that it's functioning like a dominant chord. It's even got the 4th degree of the scale as well, which makes it a really strong substitute for the V7. I've never seen a IVmi7b5 used like that before and I think it's a really cool trick, kind of like the tritone substitution of the VIImi7b5.
@xtruthunfiltrd1192
6 жыл бұрын
I've always thought of the Ebm chord in the main phrase as a vague substitute for the dominant. Then, when it moves to the Cm7b5 at the conclusion, it's expanding upon that as sort of an Ebm/C, putting the full tritone in there.
@soundknight
6 жыл бұрын
Can you do an analysis on Cavatina from The Deer Hunter? The final section before the DC puzzle me.
@theaegis5795
6 жыл бұрын
How... would you get into trouble with disney when... there are a million and one videos with the imperial march theme? o.0 i don fuckin understand youtube... or disney.....
@MegaHorrorLP
6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just Wow. It is Leitmotiv. Not Leitmotif ^^ Deutsche Sprache, Schwere Sprache ^^. And why do you keep drawing elephants that look like the little blue elephant from "Die Sendung mit der Maus"?
@JimCullen
6 жыл бұрын
Minor correct, the figure you refer to as a trill is really an inverted mordent.
@yzm2065
6 жыл бұрын
I havent the foggiest idea what was being said in this video but it fascinated me.
@myguydied
6 жыл бұрын
Deep musical theory - he's explaining the musical technique, then the resulting emotion of that technique (or "response", which the audience picks up) Like science, the theory is pretty complex (helped along by the jargon of the art) but the practical (our musical enjoyment) is a whole lot of fun
@theimpulsivevulcan5346
6 жыл бұрын
all you need is to have played music for 5 or 6 years
@CailVT
5 жыл бұрын
@@theimpulsivevulcan5346 I am playing music for more than 10 Years and I got only a little clue... How the fuck do I get a Cminor over Bflat Chord on my Snare?
@XenoghostTV
5 жыл бұрын
@@theimpulsivevulcan5346 Music theory isn't that complicated, 5 years of playing are more than enough to comprehend it at least at a decent level.
@captainkiwi77
4 жыл бұрын
Xenoghost that statement only really applies to classical and jazz musicians, and definitely not drummers who don’t play mallet percussion
@TheChaoticToaster
4 жыл бұрын
John Williams knows how to use music to paint a picture. Even if you have never seen a Star Wars movie in your life, if you heard this tune you would still get this feeling that something wicked is present. In the Empire Strikes back, the first time you hear this, the Imperial Fleet in all of its glory is present and looming over everything in its path.
@Zeknif1
5 жыл бұрын
It takes 8 notes to know that Vader is coming. It takes 2 to know when you need a bigger boat.
@troyandrade435
4 жыл бұрын
It takes 1 to know Maul is coming?
@supernutbar
4 жыл бұрын
It only takes one to make emos cry: G
@mypenisisunbelievablysmall5650
4 жыл бұрын
@@supernutbar stfu
@jwanbesande2734
3 жыл бұрын
It takes one note to come out of your cage doing just fine
@jessehammer123
3 жыл бұрын
It takes one to know you’re listening to Seven Nation Army.
@allahcc666
6 жыл бұрын
About cutting down the motif to its first half. The marching feel has been made stronger by omitting the excited last part; this half-motif, hence, evokes the feeling that something is approaching in a more controlled, self-possessed way, which amplifies in a way the original fear or awe inspired by the full motif. The reason that it is not recurring throughout the theme may be that the author didn't want this contained or controlled quality to be the dominant character of his devil.
@tulliusexmisc2191
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think it is a deliberate imperfection to undermine the sense of control. The mask slips. Perhaps Williams meant to show the self-delusion of any authoritarian operation - the Empire no exception. The more effort it spends projecting a facade of stability and control, the more chaos is hidden within. Officials abusing their positions, yes-men promoted far above their ability, terrified minions covering up mistakes or pinning the blame on others. Or perhaps it is less sociology and more psychology. For all its technocratic posturing, the Empire is not guided by a scientific model of a perfect society, however misguided. It is the fruit of an insatiable lust for power and domination. When Vader invites Luke to bring *order* to the galaxy, remember how much emotion James Earl Jones puts into that normally utilitarian word.
@sonatuzun7020
6 жыл бұрын
6:31 I think that sort of breakdown of rhythmic figure creates a feeling of a more powerful "musical sentence"(a-a-b-a with b feeling a little bit incomplete and there for raising expectations for the final b or at least making final b more conclusive). It also fit nicely with the melody and give us a moment of silence which sounds cool because it's contrasting with all the chaos going on.
@johnnygotgrowls
6 жыл бұрын
Leia's theme would be a beautiful one to analyze for sure
@johnnygotgrowls
6 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm? haha
@Collateralcoffee
6 жыл бұрын
Go to Patreon and pledge, like he says.
@keenanbartlome8153
6 жыл бұрын
light of the force man
@tfwnoyandere
2 жыл бұрын
johnny here holy shit
@johnnygotgrowls
2 жыл бұрын
@@tfwnoyandere it me
@paganmoon
6 жыл бұрын
part at 4:40 makes me thing of Mary Poppins "a spoonful of sugar makes the medicin go down"
@BadWebDiver
6 жыл бұрын
Except in that song, the notes actually go up when the lyrics say down. Deliberate choice by the Sherman Brothers (composers) to represent the topsy-tursy magical world of Mary Poppins.
@legendofFranktheTank
6 жыл бұрын
same interval
@craigreardon3914
5 жыл бұрын
Rhythmically the lines are similar too, that’s probably why.
@richard.lucasfm
6 жыл бұрын
First time watching your videos... I LOVE THAT CHANNEL MAN! WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS ALL MY (MUSIC STUDENT) LIFE
@Casshio
6 жыл бұрын
I...uh...am fascinated and overwhelmed.
@wanderingrandomer
6 жыл бұрын
This is super interesting... I just wish I understood literally any of it! If you'd asked me why the Imperial March sounds so good, I probably would've said something like '... I dunno, it sounds a bit scary, I guess.' I've been meaning to look into music theory for ages, but just never found the time. I'll have to check out some of your 'Building Blocks' videos.
@clark5317
6 жыл бұрын
I know this is the simplest and least in depth explanation (but it's also one of the most important) is that it's in a minor key, meaning it sounds darker. The Force theme is a lot happier, so it's in the major key. Or at least around the major key. If you were to put Imperial march in Major, it would sound the Vader's death from Return of the Jedi. Like, if you were playing on a piano, the bottom left end would be minor, and the right end Major.
@wanderingrandomer
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That's a good start :)
@clark5317
6 жыл бұрын
WanderingRandomer Yousa welcome!
@oibruv3889
3 жыл бұрын
@@clark5317 although cogent basic advice the love theme for han and leigha is also in a minor key, yet one would not normally call that a scary cue
@BobbyVanStone
3 жыл бұрын
As for the change in the typical pattern of the rhythmic them (at 6:24), I’m a drummer so I’m in the rhythm department, and it got me thinking. The thing that stands out to me most is that the brief change causes the rhythm to line up a quarter note rest with the melody in a spot that is new to the listener; perhaps it could be to further convey how Vader has ultimate control over his powers, mirroring how both the rhythm and melody seem to jump from controlled to somewhat chaotic whenever the song desires. Love your videos, thank you for the lessons!
@bryede
6 жыл бұрын
I always thought going from the stacked G's into the chord was clever because it concentrates all the weight of the measure at the end. The G's sound more like a percussive intro to the E flat minor chord, which seems like it comes from a different place creating a see-saw effect.
@olabergvall3154
6 жыл бұрын
Put me through the wringer, like always. Stayed focused for every second, loved every second. As always. Amazing what you are putting out there. Keep it up, I'll keep coming back. Side note: I can't even read sheet music all that well, let alone know a 1/100 about music theory as is in these vids.... Doesn't matter in the slightest. Thoroughly enjoyable. Many many thanks 😁
@SebaBocaz
6 жыл бұрын
Wow... it's impressive. Every note selected by master Williams to compose this masterpiece. The meaning and how those 16 bars tell us about Vader's personality. I recognize it was a bit difficult to catch out your speech, because English is not my mother language but I could understand it because I strongly wanted to listen and comprehend the analysis given.
@ibowlverywell
6 жыл бұрын
To my ear it seems more like octatonic is being used to craft these chords
@atelier8584
6 жыл бұрын
'Cause it is being used
@jordenpeterkin7322
6 жыл бұрын
I never in my life taken apart music like that I just try to play my part and hope it sounds good
@flaflu82
6 жыл бұрын
Not a single mention to Gustav Holst's Mars?
@suntzu7673
6 жыл бұрын
John Williams is the GOAT
@MaxRamos8
6 жыл бұрын
Actually both the Jaws theme and imperial march are taken from old compositions. For Jaws, 4th movement of Dvorak's new world Symphony. For Imperial March, Chopins funeral march
@honorsaegis5509
6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and drawing man that was good my face was like what! the whole time i saw him drawing
@jamesfreeman4455
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I find your analysis totally lucid
@ZethKeeper
6 жыл бұрын
I like that Imperial Suite from Rogue One works the exact (at least, veeeery close to March) same way. Basically, it is Imperial March 2.0.
@RoniliYamin
6 жыл бұрын
This deserves much more views
@Evacer
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the half steps definitely convey Vader's control of his power. It couldn't possibly convey anything else like, say, his loyalty to the dark side or Sidious. Or it couldn't just be that it sounds awesome. Might the dashing between half steps convey Darth Vader's inner struggle to tell Luke he is his father and then deciding not to, and then deciding to once and for all? Hmmm...or perhaps it just means papuushakose.
@PebProductions46
6 жыл бұрын
I think that rhythmic change where the first have is repeated twice is meant to emphasize the quasi-return to the opening melody. In other words, it's just showing that something's changing.
@The_Old_Wolf
3 жыл бұрын
John Williams may be a genius, but it takes one to know one and 12tone has the chops to analyze music right down to the bare metal and make his analysis interesting to a musical duffer like me. Well done! ♫ ♥ ♫
@AnonymousFreakYT
6 жыл бұрын
Also, as The Last Jedi has come out on home media now - it's worth bringing up the awesome new viewing method the home video release has: Score-only audio. You can watch the movie where the only audio is the John Williams score. No dialogue, no sound effects. It is so awesome, since buying the Blu-ray, I have now watched it more times in Score-only mode than the full theatrical audio. I wish every movie had this now! (Or at least every movie with a full-movie score...) Also, I've decided, if I ever win the lottery, I'm going to commission John Williams to write a soundtrack. For any movie he wants. Maybe he wants a second take at Jaws? Maybe he wishes he had scored the 1989 Batman instead of Danny Elfman? Maybe he wants to have an original score for 2001: A Space Odyssey, instead of using existing classical music. I don't care! I just want a custom-done musical score by John Williams.
@Pilbaran00b
6 жыл бұрын
Fuck, you explained that really well. I've always loved hearing something I've sort of understood in my head explained properly. Very interesting, especially with your deep knowledge of music theory. Thanks! Also thanks for making a Tom Scott video - glad to have found you through there :)
@jayd6038
6 жыл бұрын
12tone tbh, you should start a Star wars music class
@bronsoncarder2491
4 жыл бұрын
6:30 I have no idea what I'm really talking about here, I learned most of my orchestration knowledge from... Well, you, 12Tone. lmao But, I have two ideas: 1. That slight stalling effect kinda feels equivalent to a rest, without giving up the rhythmic intensity and momentum. In a less "aggressive" song, that measure might have just been empty, a bit of a calm before the storm, making the next section feel even more intense. Here, I see it as representing the idea that Vader does not rest, and even his quiet moments are just anticipation for the next battle. 2. It feels like it foreshadows the end of that section, for me. You went till the end of Bar 16, but that section ends a few bars later, ending with what feels to me like a very similar rhythm to what you've described at 6:30. At the end of that section, all of the raw power of the first section is just gone, replaced with a much more mysterious and quieter section that slowly builds that menace up behind it. So, the idea I get from it is that the first part is Vader when he's out doing his Vader thing. Killing people, choking insubordinates, that kind of thing. The second section, then, represents Vader when he's alone, in his pod that is his hell, the only place where he can breathe normally and be himself. And, this little stutter, this little bit of confusion, represents him thinking about going back to that place, or him longing for a time when he doesn't have to. This small little rhythmic weirdness can be said to foreshadow the good in Vader, the part of him that is confused about the menacing killer he has become, that longs to be something else. I could be completely wrong with both of these ideas. Really, I just wanted to kind of try out your style of finding narrative in composition. It's amazing to me, the little things that can represent sweeping narrative arcs. It's honestly my favorite kind of musical analysis that I've encountered.
@tedboggs4569
6 жыл бұрын
Love the use of Technetium for rare.
@PatrickHogan
6 жыл бұрын
God, I love this channel.
@mastersteve78
6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Hogan I so agree, I love how explains the theory of different songs and this one is now one of my favorites!
@kevinsolis7862
6 жыл бұрын
6:40 maybe it plays it twice because we had already seen him before as another character
@sssjaeger
3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting: I always thought of the Gb note in the melody as more of just an F# being a leading tone typical in minor key melodies, but I guess when you factor in the chromatic mediant--which I never processed as a chromatic chord until now--your analysis makes sense
@ayidas
6 жыл бұрын
All I can say to this is FUCK YEAH. You nailed it. Also nice analogy with my man Sonic 6:12
@uncinarynin
6 жыл бұрын
Note also the similarities between the underlying rhythmic figure and the drum ostinato of Ravel's Bolero ...
@rmdodsonbills
6 жыл бұрын
I really like the use of Technetium to indicate something rare! If you've already decided to go with the periodic table reference, it would have been so easy to just go with one of the Lanthanides or Actinides (rare earth elements) but Tc is really the perfect choice, in part because it isn't necessarily obvious. Excellent!
@cadenschmidt2752
6 жыл бұрын
This gets me interested in taking music theory at my school!
@Kntrabssi
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I think that range also plays a big part of making this theme feel so ominous. Those are some awfully close intervals in the bass clef, and the clashing overtones gives it a very dark and doomy sound. Can't for the life of me figure why he would change the rhythm in that one bar, unless he just wanted to give it some rhythmic variety. But then why would every other measure follow the same rhythm? The two against three in the melody vs the accompaniment has happened a bunch of times by that point, and there's nothing clashing harmonically. Excellent video as always!
@gidikalchhauser
5 жыл бұрын
You, Sir, sure are a beast on the piano.. your repetitions are off the hook! (I knowwwww..)
@anthonybilotta1461
6 жыл бұрын
( 6:40 )he might've repeated the rhythmic pattern to symbolize an error that eventually leads to the "downfall" of the piece. This might foreshadow the "downfall@ of Darth Vador's "evilness" and therefore his power.
@patricktilton5377
2 жыл бұрын
The music in the STAR TREK episode "The Doomsday Machine" had to have inspired the JAWS theme. After Decker flies a shuttlecraft into the monstrous thing and explodes, damaging but not killing it, Kirk realizes that Decker had the right idea, BUT . . . they're gonna need a bigger boat. A starship -- Decker's damaged USS Constellation -- to blow up inside it. It's funny how in the novel JAWS, the shark wasn't killed by an exploding pressurized scuba tank. It's almost as if Spielberg was remembering that Trek episode and realized: We gotta blow it up, instead!
@janApen
6 жыл бұрын
Wow never divided into music theory. I love it. :)
@brettfett74
6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Tom Scott got you to do a guest video, this is really interesting!
@fuzzcous
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe using the three octave G chord in the beginning was to convey power. Good video
@Questamunic
6 жыл бұрын
Love the doodles !!
@vlajisontamondong6825
6 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is like musical Vi Hart.
@Lizard-813
6 жыл бұрын
Just came from Tom Scott. Great video!
@dimachil
6 жыл бұрын
">2:02
@WeyounSix
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Imperial march and the Hyrule castle theme sound very similar in my ears
@Alagboriel
6 жыл бұрын
3:48 I laughed so hard at this
@metachuko
6 жыл бұрын
Was the Imperial March fully orchestrated by John Williams? I remember seeing sheet music for other Star Wars themes that attributed the orchestration to someone else.
@timbeaton5045
6 жыл бұрын
Re the Jaws theme, always reminds me of Sacre du Printemps..The Augurs of spring.
@manupalma8621
5 жыл бұрын
What a great explanation, please analyse the Spider-Man's theme by Danny Elfman, that would be great to whatch!
@dgdanielgoldman
6 жыл бұрын
this is great! Can you do a video for the Corey Henry solo on Lingus by Snarky Puppy?
@TruckTheDuck
6 жыл бұрын
The unusual rhythm at 6:22 also comes at the end of the piece, right? I don't know theory, but is it planting the seed for that big finish?
@wgolyoko
6 жыл бұрын
As for your 6:30 question, it might be only a timing question in regard of the montage of the movie.
@BenedettaSaglietti
3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@merlinsguidetotheseagullme7037
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Thank you.
@tanaydoctor1609
6 жыл бұрын
I so loved the video
@B_Skizzle
6 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about, but somehow I’m intrigued.
@davidkaminski615
6 жыл бұрын
3:05 Opening notes to Lord of the Rings.
@saturnday160
4 жыл бұрын
Usually people theorizing on music sound like bullshit but this makes a lot of sense
@jcoriha
6 жыл бұрын
Any chance of you breaking down "Binary Sunset" ?
@Psiberzerker
6 жыл бұрын
"If you have any guesses, let me know in the comments..." 6:27 It's a bridge, for one. Beyond that, it repeats a minor theme, only massively sped up. This breaks tempo, but with the familiar minor theme, so it feels familiar, and yet URGENT! and then it's gone again, before it registers... ? I guess.
@Psiberzerker
6 жыл бұрын
Do Planet Dada (Flamboyant) from The Eye, by Yello. Or Close to the Edit/Beat Box #2 by Art of Noise. Doesn't really matter which. There's lots of musical theory on classical pieces, and at this point, The Imperial March is a classical work, but not nearly enough on experimental electronic anti-pop/no-wave. If you're looking for a challenge, Einsturzende Neubauten - Ende Neue (Ende Neue)
@FoxBoi69
6 жыл бұрын
who was thinking about reys theme at 2:36?
@kingviper5700
5 жыл бұрын
*MUSIC THEORY*
@evansolek4663
6 жыл бұрын
He should have drawn a tie advanced
@annoynymouse1146
6 жыл бұрын
your drawings are getting better...
@irongeneral7861
6 жыл бұрын
Please analyze the Atlesian theme if you've ever heard of the show... "RWBY"
@Collateralcoffee
6 жыл бұрын
It's Leitmotiv.
@seriquerj
6 жыл бұрын
Actually, during winter (after xmas) the nights are getting longer
@12tone
6 жыл бұрын
True, but the video was published on December 8th, before the solstice.
@DeviltoGeorgia34
6 жыл бұрын
When you're a music nerd who took music theory in college and understand what he's saying.
@yorganyog
6 жыл бұрын
"Trinity, upload how works imperial march"....... ----- uploading////////////// (after 1 minute)... I entered in COMA!!!!!!
@counselorgalliusrax8233
6 жыл бұрын
2:36 Williams, Stop it. We all know what you did there.
@MrAwawe
6 жыл бұрын
It's funny how he writes and draws backwards (from right to left). I mean it makes sense, since he's left handed, but none of my left handed friends do that. Is it out of necessity (to avoid smudges) or habit/comfort?
@12tone
6 жыл бұрын
It's actually just a camera thing: I normally work from left to right, but if I do that here then my hand immediately covers up the thing I just drew.
@MrAwawe
6 жыл бұрын
12tone oh right, that makes sense.
@carolelafolle3800
6 жыл бұрын
how did i get here , i was watching rust raids
@gplgs4640
5 жыл бұрын
How do musicians understand music sheets again? G flats? G naturals? E flats? WHAT?
@live_kaito_reaction
6 жыл бұрын
I'm here because red t-shirt man told me to
@idriscatangui2940
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, what scale is this in? I really need it for a school assignment
@YounesLayachi
6 жыл бұрын
subbed
@YounesLayachi
6 жыл бұрын
no questions asked
@WarcraftIsForVirgins
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting videos. I like them. For a while I think i was a little mesmerized watching how a leftie writes and holds a pen \m/
@bromixsr
6 жыл бұрын
Translation for the tone deaf: John Williams is a genius.
@ralphbrennan7700
5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@borisc6714
5 жыл бұрын
No! John William is THE man!
@Paul_The_Spaceman
4 жыл бұрын
Holst
@maykstuff
4 жыл бұрын
Translation for non composers: John Williams REALLY loves him some Holst..
@KannikCat
6 жыл бұрын
"It almost feels like it's breathing..." Given this is for Vader, who's suit's ventilator is one of the most recognizable sounds in the trilogy (and in popular culture), this seems very appropriate. :D Nice analysis! Really enjoyed this....
@kuyaleinad4195
6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Bollmann It also looks eerily identical to an ECG graph XD...
@darkblades1201
4 жыл бұрын
Technically, its supposed to be for the Empire on general, but Vader is in pretty much every Empire scene, it turned into his theme but it works nicely regardless :)
@MaoTseFunkadelic
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like this guy could analyze the pitch of Chewbacca's growl and come up with three volumes of backstory and character development. Really, I had no idea what was going on this video, but was also terribly impressed. I guess this is what being illiterate is like.
@ChachoGSX
4 жыл бұрын
Actually the dog that was in Raiders of the Lost Ark......you know what, nevermind.
@samisugiarta2747
6 жыл бұрын
What I understood: 1: "Hey! 12tone here." 2: "Anyway, thanks for watching."
@basedbattledroid3507
4 жыл бұрын
You are ready, padawan
@neurotransmissions
6 жыл бұрын
6:22 I would guess John Williams probably broke the typical pattern to make it more driving and to emphasize the G minor. It's the first place where a pair of bars doesn't start with G as the root. Changing the pattern seems to link that bar to the next one, which returns back to the G (minor). Anyway, awesome awesome video. May the force be with you!
@heydannypark
6 жыл бұрын
I understand what you guys are saying, but does there ALWAYS have to be a reason? I mean it COULD have just been whimsy, right?
@decko87
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, repeating the first 2 beats increases expectation for another repetition, which coincides with the tonic G minor chord!
@jamestheloud
6 жыл бұрын
repeating the first 2 beats also serves as a reservation against forward momentum, which contradicts the listener's expectation without fully subverting it.
@DerpMuse
6 жыл бұрын
It might just be the human in the music. not the mathematical language to represent the song. I've played songs, then went to transcribe it and after 10 measures or so there is an extra note by one track out of place, but in place in the wind section, and one in the brass. at intervals creating a triplet out of a structured shuffle of time itself, in the language. In John Williams' case it was accidental and just part of his style of playing. not 100% perfect, no one is.
@anselpeneloperainblossom-s3489
6 жыл бұрын
I have never felt as simple as I feel right now.
@MuzikBike
6 жыл бұрын
Every time you draw a snowman I can't help but see a triad in it.
@FoxDren
6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I have no idea what you just said.
@adammullarkey4996
5 жыл бұрын
Allow me to assist: The bit at 3:26 is talking about how John Williams is a fantastic composer, the bit at 5:14 is about how John Williams is an amazing composer, and the bit from 0:00 through the end of the video is about how John Williams is an incredible composer.
@RonnocFroop
6 жыл бұрын
Minor quibble. You drew a TIE Fighter for Vader, when he actually piloted a TIE Advanced. Great analysis, though.
@NilsKimman
6 жыл бұрын
RonnocFroop im already really glad he knows what a tie fighter is, so i forgive him for this detail :D
@RCAvhstape
6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he had every model in his garage.
@FirstLast-fr4hb
6 жыл бұрын
Few things represent the empire more than star ships
@jonaskoelker
6 жыл бұрын
NEEEEEERD! ...Said the guy watching a video (over)analyzing the Imperial March.
@ashscott6068
6 жыл бұрын
Wait...TIe is capitalized? It stands for something? I always thought it was cus they look like bow ties, and wondered why they would call it that, given that nobody in Star Wars wears a tie
@tibees
6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you guys have seen the pencil cover of Cantina?
@gabor6259
4 жыл бұрын
Tibees, I watch your channel.
@corrda1993
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! This is one tune that I always had trouble figuring out theoretically. With all the non-tonic tones and dissonant chords I wondered why it's still catchy and doesn't come across like a horror movie soundtrack. Thanks for the explantion!
@augusto7681
6 жыл бұрын
corrda1993 The rhythm pattern is kind of catchy. And the octave chord break the feel of dissonance in the piece.
@thetruthchannel349
6 жыл бұрын
the dissonance is really an illusion. Williams does this a lot where he changes chords for ex. from Amin to an Augmented E major chord but leaves the lead in note in the chord with the root note. So hes basically super - imposing a E augmented 7 on top of an Amin chord. he does that in Anakins Theme a lot also. He also does it in the transition from the Emperor/Yoda Obi-Wan/Anakin fight sequences back to Captain Antilles ship. Its almost the same idea as for ex being in A major and progressing to an Emajor chord while leaving A in the bass only your moving from a minor to mathematical equivalent of a like progression. WIlliams does this a lot in scores from the past 40 years of soundtracks. He plays around a lot with texture. Something that is become a lost art in film scoring.
@NicholasDobbie
6 жыл бұрын
2:42 those chords form the basis of Rey’s theme, had John Williams being teasing her turn to the dark side?
@danniemann972
6 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Dobbie 😧😨🤯
@LTdrumma
6 жыл бұрын
She will turn to the dark side
@nickmonks9563
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but I think it's just his choice in this video to play the second inversion of the arpeggio that way. Otherwise, it's just a standard triad in second inversion with that G and A thrown in to make us uncomfortable.
@Nonamearisto
6 жыл бұрын
No, she's not. I'd tell you to see the movie, but it really sucks.
@crispybacon4240
6 жыл бұрын
+Nonamearisto Tickets already booked and I will continue to ignore all the people saying everything but the original trilogy is garbage.
@xNewNickx
6 жыл бұрын
My brain melted.
@lucbauer
6 жыл бұрын
mine two
@SlippyLegJones
6 жыл бұрын
Mign To.
@jasonsomers8224
6 жыл бұрын
+Mnignefjollhist LXIX is that why you spelled mine too like mighn to
@jasonsomers8224
6 жыл бұрын
So did mine
@jayd6038
6 жыл бұрын
NewNick same
@DjLepLaz
6 жыл бұрын
"Nonspecific Dissonance" What a name for a badass metal band :D
@coloripple
6 жыл бұрын
6:21 i think they want to put more accent on the 3rd and 4th beat, thus giving more of a marching feel. The rhythmic pattern in the melody during that bar is also similar, which adds to this vibe. However, I don't know why they only did is this one time, as it sounds like a nice change up, and a march vibe does fit the track.
@PanAndScanBuddy
6 жыл бұрын
Kalkaanuslag Maybe it also implies the uniformity of the stormtroopers that flank the Imperial leadership?
@MiaMartel64
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was gonna say it adds emphasis to the melody's return to something like its original steady rhythm. And I like what Josh Brown is saying about the uniformity of the stormtroopers too. I could see that whole phrase as starting out implying their descent into madness/chaotic battle, and then taking a moment as this phrase wraps up to "realign" a little bit more strongly with their commander as he orders the march onward... Iono..
@thetruthchannel349
6 жыл бұрын
If you want to understand most of John Williams rhythm choices study Sousa's Marches. Thats basically where all of his rhythms and textures come from in the horn section and percussion section.
@jaurisova6
6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! This theme, along with "Hedwig's Theme" from Harry Potter are some of the most interesting and musically adventurous Williams compositions. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out why it "works" so well in spite of its intense chromaticism and melodic weirdness. 1. I think it's always useful to remember that JW started out his career as "Johnny Williams" working as a jazz pianist and arranger for Henry Mancini. His compositions show a ton of influence from swing and big band arranging, especially in his use of syncopation, driving rhythm, and altered chords. The Imperial March uses a relentless rhythmic motif and a clear melody as a rock-solid foundation for colorful chord choices. 2. I've also tried to do a detailed roman numeral analysis of this piece, and I think for something so loosely functional that type of analysis can miss the forest for the trees. I would say that none of the harmonies here are "functional" aside from a general sense of consonance and dissonance. Melody is the key here. Take a closer look at the core of the melody in the second half: ornaments and enclosures aside, it's sliding from G - E - Db - Bb - G. It's a simple sequence moving in minor thirds. It's ornamented with arpeggiated harmonies, but I think those are just the icing on the cake. Ask anyone to sing that part of the melody off the top of their head: they'll completely botch the exact tones, but that main idea is super clear, singable, and memorable in any case. 3. Dissonance: if you just look at the bass and the melody, there is actually very little dissonance in this piece. All the outer intervals are nice consonances like tenths and fifths; no minor 9ths, not even any tritones! The dissonances are all concealed in the inner voices, which I think keeps the whole thing feeling solidly in control in spite of the chromaticism. It's predictable in an unpredictable way.
@KubrickFR
6 жыл бұрын
I feel sad about lacking the knowledge to understand the basics of this video... Is there any shortcuts to understand the basis of music theory?
@clark5317
6 жыл бұрын
Mathieu LANCE Well, I know hardly anything myself, but unless you're not really interested, skipping around is probably a bad idea.
@zandraxofnebulon
6 жыл бұрын
do you know how to play any instruments? Learning that, and how to read sheet music, is imo pretty important in understanding anything beyond that, or at least, a good first step. not quick but tbh i cant think of a quick way to learn it
@theimpulsivevulcan5346
6 жыл бұрын
bruh, just git gud
@jasonqiu9753
6 жыл бұрын
12tone has a series on the basics
@jspartacus
6 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the entire point of the main theme. While it eventually became associated with Darth Vader, it is at its core a military march, describing the crushing might and subjugating presence of the Imperial forces.
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