In this video I talk quite a lot about Trish Walker as a character. In season 2 she did a lot of things, both good and bad, and the dislike towards her makes complete sense. However, here we’re going a bit deeper to try to understand why she did what she did, and why it made sense for her. It’s completely okay to hate her after the season, I think you’re actually supposed to, in a way. I don’t condone everything she did, like for instance trashing on Jessica for not using the powers she never wanted, and reflecting her own self doubts and ambitions onto other people. Trish killing Alisa is widely debated, but in the entire second part of the season we only ever saw her through Jessica’s clouded eyes. Trish is a hero in her own story, but sort of a villain of Jessica’s. Was Trish right at all times? Hell no. Did she do it for her own character growth? Yes, yes. But it’s not like I think that Trish deserves to die like a lot of people think - someone who fights for control of their life and feeling good about themselves by saving others don’t deserve that. It’s pretty obvious that she went about it the wrong way though, and she’s probably going to get a shit ton of consequences in season 3, and honestly I can’t wait to see where they go from here. Replying to all comments, let’s talk about this season and this character y’all! ;D
@0munkey0numberZERO
6 жыл бұрын
SuperTalks is your accent Filipino?
@magaencina2863
6 жыл бұрын
I think that I could write 3 hours or make a longer video than this one , explaining my thoughts because I dont blame Trish AT ALL, she and Jessica are opposite in some sense but THE SAME in so many others... If you hate Trish and are racional you would HAVE TO hate Jessica too.
@rhyswallace3590
6 жыл бұрын
Hey can you make a video on Luke Cage and his different personality in season 2?
@Ishdh.2
5 жыл бұрын
I personally have grown to despise Trish. She constantly makes life harder for her on friends and claims it’s because “she wants to help people” but it’s obvious she doesn’t want that. All she wants is to feel like she means something (LITERALLY everyone in this world does) but she takes it too far. She abandons and ignores her friends, ditches Malcolm (a man who loved her) and shot Jessica’s mom in the head. I don’t care if she was trying to defend her, that’s not ok. If she truly cared she would have called the police, or instead of killing the mom, knocking her out long enough for the police to safely take her back. And she just expects Malcom and Jessica to forgive her(that’s what makes me the most angry) Sure she may have good intentions for those powers, but she will never truly be a hero from the way she achieved them
@23RedTechno
6 жыл бұрын
After the finale of season 2 the hate train for Patsy kicked into high gear and it got ugly fast but i take a level head look into what got Trish onto her quest for power .
@warhero99
6 жыл бұрын
Trish kicked Malcolm off the wagon. He had feelings for her and she used it.
@magaencina2863
6 жыл бұрын
The ONLY THING i hate that Trish did this season was the boxes with the ashes , that was low and kinda out of character in my opinion... The rest, I UNDERSTAND HER and she is alot more alike to Jessica that people want to admit, but that always happens with the lead of the show and they dont try to understand the rest of the characters
@delma1217
6 жыл бұрын
maga Encina yeah. I get sick of this people saying they hate trish, for saving Jessica's life. And no one talks about that prison's guard that Jessica killed. How people can't see things for an other point of view, than the charecteres lines. when jessica said" it shouldn't be you". Then everyone keeps repeatings this without stop to think.
@TheVargr
6 жыл бұрын
I hated Trish during my first watch of season 2 and found her hard to watch. I hadn't had time to watch season 1 recently before, but went back and re-watched it after my first viewing of S2 then after rewatched S2 and Trish made more sense. Still disagree with her actions, but I understood why she was doing them. In S1 you really do see how weak and useless she feels explaining why she acted as she did in S2.
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel exactly the same. It's still hard to watch in season 2, and there's still other ways they could've gone about it which makes it worse. It's interesting because I even speculated in an earlier video that Trish might say yes to powers from IGH, so it's not like it came out of left field
@magaencina2863
6 жыл бұрын
I think they some great parallels about *TRISH personallity* but people just dont get it 1- "You are a pathetic *VICTIM OF CHILD ABUSE* - I dont tell and *YOU DONT SAVE ME* - *YOU PROMISED NOT TO SAVE ME* - 1x11 ... that was 13 YEARS OLD Trish dont wanting to be EITHER a VICTIM and but she also DIDNT WANT TO BE SAVED... she apreaciates Jessica´s help ofc but she NEVER wanted to be "saved" . 1x03- *"I let you fight my battle for too long* - Trish wants to take control of her life and she wants to HELP others. She didnt want to be the victim the forever nor the one that needed to be saved, and if you think even tho Jessica LOVES TRISH, she was kinda "using" her to have to someone to save... theres a little bit of that there too, They BOTH are not perfect, but even with all shit they CHOOSE each other and they love each other... even after fighting with Trish when her mother called she told her "you tried to kill the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN MY LIFE, MY BFF, MY SISTER" showing that their love was STILL unconditional by then... killing her mom was too far for them to keep "okay" but I feel taking distance was the BEST both could do, and they have done it BEFORE, like in 2x07 and those 6 MONTHS that Jessica didnt talk to her but they somehow came back into each other´s life bc their love, bond and relationship is that deep and strong, Im not worried.
@Mitchob1012
6 жыл бұрын
Personally throughout the season I always considered Trish to be a villain, and that really just helped me get through the season without throwing my computer across my room... I feel like this season's biggest flaw is that they didn't really go further into the "trish as a villain" angle, and seeing as this season didn't really have a true villain (I mean even the doctor behind IGH was a well developed character) Trish and her descent into madness could have provided one of the more interesting arcs and/stories for the season. If they portrayed her as the villain she also could have saved a lot of back and forth in the community and not drawn such a divide between people (although this still could have happened either way).
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! It would be really cool to have seen that. Since they didn't do it this season, I'm sure it won't happen either in the next. She'll probably never go full villain because she isn't really a villain like that, more like an anti-hero who messes up way too much, and bad things will probably happen because she tries to save people...
@Mitchob1012
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that seems about right... Honestly if they give her an arc similar to Malcolm at the start of next season where she realises she's screwed up and tries to actually HELP and change her ways, whilst trying to also win back Jessica in a way that would be great, as I see Trish killing Jess' mother a good stepping off point for her character to really grow... Unfortunately the thing at the end that teased her powers sort of ruined that hope a little bit for me, as it shows that the writers are also rewarding Trish's character for doing very wrong things... If they went for it where she didn't get powers she could have realised that she didn't need powers to be a hero, and that would have sent a great message to viewers as well
@Shadyfire2507
6 жыл бұрын
To be Honest, I seriously hate the Character of Trish Walker !! She just annoys me sooo much with all her HeroComplex, all selfcentered, only caring about herself and her career. Instead of simply excepting that she is not a SuperHero she runs around, sticking her Nose into Business that she does not need to care about. Something that already annoyed me alot in Season 1 and now in Season, her desperate obsession with gettting SuperPowers makes me seriously HATE her. Really had to get this off my Chest
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
Ahahah, that is okay, I appreciate your comment, even if I don't entirely agree with you. But of course, you're entitled to your opinion just as I am to mine! ;D Hope you have a great day!
@magaencina2863
6 жыл бұрын
She wants to HELP OTHERS, people that NEED help , people she knows Jessica could help to but she doesnt want to... "business that she doesnt need to care about", as Jessica she was only TRYING to help her bff, who has been FULL OF ANGER, Drunk 24/7 and losing her shit all the time for a whole year after Killgrave and for wanting to help other is selfless and heroic , not a bad thing. Killgrave was right if Trish had powers she would be a true hero, while Jessica has the power but she is the "anti-hero"
@Ishdh.2
5 жыл бұрын
maga Encina yeah, but what she did for this powers... she will never be a true hero
@elysiadawn
4 жыл бұрын
I don't Hate her exactly, but she Annoys the hell out of me. Lol
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
Also, sorry about the low sound, my mic messed up ahh ;-;
@The482075
6 жыл бұрын
There are no good people or bad people. I don't believe that people are necessarily morally good or bad. We are all in this murky grey area. We do what we believe is right, and we don't even do that all the time. Some people make a conscious effort to be good (your definitions of morality will vary) and others don't. When someone tries to do what they believe is right, their own baggage, vices and insecurities will get in the way. Trish is more what I personally imagine a hero to be. Messed up, self righteous, hypocritical, naive and well meaning. Not perfect and sometimes really dangerous, but hey, at least they're trying. When someone tries to be a decent human being, that instantly makes them likeable to me.
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
So true! Thing is, we're all the hero in our own story, right?
@The482075
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, although I like the idea of being the antagonist. I like to see myself in the ugliest possible light. It is just a fascinating thought experiment. At some point our actions and ideals will push us to opposition to other people. If you know someone who really hates your guts, this could be an interesting thought experiment. Imagine yourself as the villain of their story. Think of all the things you do that really get on their nerves. Now imagine how ugly you must seem to them. It is a little thought experiment that could lead to greater self awareness and self improvement. It could even lead to greater empathy and understanding other people better.
@magaencina2863
6 жыл бұрын
If you think so, Jessica is much worse than Trish but since she has powers people justify her more.
@The482075
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is when you think about it.
@elysiadawn
4 жыл бұрын
I don't like hypocrisy and self-righteousness. The road to hell is paved with good intentions so they say. I like people who use their brains, their intelligence.. Not just mindless, thoughtless people who "try" to be "good". People need to be conscious of how their actions and choices will affect everyone and everything around them, and until they are they cannot "do good".
@Truthster772
5 жыл бұрын
Um Hello?? Jessica is ALSO AN ADDICT! Why is it alright for Jessica to be an addict? It’s a typical addict codependent relationship. Once people accept both characters addiction, maybe they’ll lay off Trish.
@no5993
6 жыл бұрын
Trish I just felt bad for. She relapsed hard. But, I can't hate her. I get why she did what she did. Jess wasn't in the right mind at all and was convinced her mother was well, sane in any way. She also really just wanted to have some part of her family back and the strongest family role came back. But, she was blinded by the fact that it was her mother's voice. Jessica's entire life was in danger. If she was arrested for helping a serial killer escape prison, her PI career is down the drain. That or the cops would've killed Jessica. There was only one way to fix this and it had to be Trish. It just had to be her because she knows Jess the best. It doesn't make sense, but it does. This lined up perfectly for S3 Hellcat vs Jessica Jones. These two have so much bad blood in their past between each other from Trish calling Jess a freeloader and Jessica abandoning Trish multiple times. Sure, they seem to have got over it. But, I think they just buried it away to deal with Kilgrav. Now he's gone, IGH is gone, what's left to distract them? This is a mess of a comment, I know. It's mainly my thoughts everywhere.
@magaencina2863
6 жыл бұрын
Hellcat is not a villain, she is a hero , she was part of avengers and the defenders... She always wanted powers to HELP PEOPLE, that will change, maybe they will "fight" for who does the hero thing first than the other, like compete but they LOVE each other and they are both heroes
@no5993
6 жыл бұрын
maga Encina I'm aware lmao. I'm saying she could be a villain by going overboard with her trying to save people. Powers easily can go to her head like drugs did and without Jess around to keep her grounded, she won't know when to stop.
@katiemcmanus4374
6 жыл бұрын
Comparison Kilgrave-Trish Both have interesting backstories, arguable Kilgrave is more imo Both are crucial to story-Both are crucial in their respective series KG-1 T-2 More likeable- This comes down to opinion and but for me easily Kilgrave. Trish Imo is a bitch in S2 How evil- KG easily, kinda without saying Funnier- KG-Fight me So for me easily KG is better character fuck trish
@nfernopoker247
6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused I'm currently watching iron fist season 2 where Mary Walker has been introduced am I to assume Mary Walker and Trish Walker is one in the same
@elysiadawn
4 жыл бұрын
The thing that annoys me about her is she's such a holier than thou do gooder. In spite of all her faults, I actually liked Jessica's mom more and wish she'd been the one to survive and kill Trish. It's cool Trish finally got powers though at least. She was really getting irritating the way she constantly envied Jessica.
@elysiadawn
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry this is two years late.. 😂 I only just started watching the show on Netflix. lol
@elysiadawn
4 жыл бұрын
But she's so annoying I actually had to come on youtube to see if other people found her annoying too. 😂
@ajtemp2000
6 жыл бұрын
I'd argue Jessica is far more in the wrong than Trish, and, I believe Trish is the most relatable character in the show. Because she truly wishes to embody heroism, whereas, Jessica just sits around and mopes. I feel this was done due to production cost. Jessica can do what? Jump high? Sure, but how often? Strong? Sure, but how strong. Jessica does't even try and hone her abilities, whereas again, Trish works outs and studies martial arts. Jessica is just cool and nothing else besides Emo. I think Trish did everything write, now they're gonna have to write her into a corner, then into a hole.
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