You can set a recovery password in the system settings on the donor Unifi Protect app, in your case that is the app on the UDM SE. This is the password that will be the camera password for pulling over all the cameras to the UNVR. The password is not a per-camera setting.
@LarsKlintTech
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for clarifying mate. Really appreciate it, and will keep in mind if/when I have to do it again.
@MatsAkerberg
3 ай бұрын
I'm running the exact same setup. One thing I was wondering about, is there a need to run the protect app on the UDM SE? Seems like I could just uninstall that one.
@LarsKlintTech
3 ай бұрын
Good question. I uninstalled Protect to start with, using the Unifi CLI, but every time you update the OS, the Protect app is installed again, so I just leave it there now.
@cmsamford
Жыл бұрын
You need to backup your Protect on SE and restore the setting for Protect on the UNVR most likely
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
That occurred to me as I watched back the video. Would have been much easier 🤦♂ I couldn't get my head around it being its own standalone device with a separate Protect app, so I never went down the backup-restore path.
@ultramegabicara
7 ай бұрын
Can i use the UNVR standalone? Like without a dream machine or cloudkey. Just the a uswitch to connect all the cameras and to connect the UNVR. And connecting the uswitch to my normal service provider ruter?
@LarsKlintTech
7 ай бұрын
You certainly can! The NVR runs its own OS, so you can just use your Unifi account on it.
@TimothyLeBlanc-h1n
Жыл бұрын
The recovery key is found by going to Protect selecting a device click settings and under general click on "configure device groups" and scroll down to 'Other Configuration" Recovery code. You will need to click on reveal to allow you to copy the code. Finally as you showed us select the device and click adopt it will prompt you for the recovery code pasted your code there and on my device it was adopted right away. Thanks for the great video
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Ah, excellent! Yes, I was missing that step, but it still worked going the long way 😂
@steveg4766
3 ай бұрын
Nice guide mate, love the little problems along the way too, it was like I was looking into a future mirror
@LarsKlintTech
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve for watching. That is exactly what I am going for, to make it as relatable as possible. No golden path or polished bug-free production. Glad you liked it ☺
@marco6196
Жыл бұрын
FYI I just found the code pain in ass to find its the recovery code in the controller example - UDM PRO> Settings>General>Recovery code - very bottom
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Marco. Yeah, not the easiest for sure.
@Kjaywest
9 ай бұрын
I just picked one up yesterday, but I did not know it was going to be its own device. I was thinking it’s was going to work as an extension of storage for the UDM. Now that I know it I don’t know if I should keep it 😂😂😂
@LarsKlintTech
9 ай бұрын
I thought it was an extension too, but I don't mind. Especially with the mobile app for Protect you don't really notice, unless you split your cameras between the UDM and NVR.
@Kjaywest
9 ай бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech I didn’t do that i put all of them on the UNVR.
@LarsKlintTech
9 ай бұрын
@@Kjaywest Yep, I did the same :)
@JustinJob-ui9zf
10 күн бұрын
i have a client that has someone else managing their network but i am adding the unvr. Do I need to contact them to unmanage the cameras or can I factory reset the cameras and add them to the unvr?
@LarsKlintTech
9 күн бұрын
You can factory reset the cameras and adopt them, but are you having both Protect and Network on the same LAN? And managed by two different entities? You might need to have both accounts on both (and just not have access to Network/Protect), as you'll need it all to talk to each other. I haven't done that approach before, so not entirely sure of the setup.
@orderstudios4088
9 күн бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech Yeah I just got a contract to add some cameras. I’m gonna be doing the wiring and adding the NVR, but I guess I’ll just contact the MSP to have them. Add the cameras and migrate Protect over to the NVR.
@LarsKlintTech
9 күн бұрын
@@orderstudios4088 Yeah, that seems the like most sensible approach.
@stultuses
Жыл бұрын
The unify calculator is good except it doesn't retain your settings, so when you click on another device to compare, it resets everything back to zero - making it very tedious to compare across the devices
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that could be a bit better user experience. At least it does give you some indication of which device you need based on a scenario :)
@bentheguru4986
Жыл бұрын
Too many AP's by the looks of it regardless of the size claim. I noticed you had an adapter on the power lead that came with the UNVR which suggests the seller you bought it from is not a AU distributer and grey-importing, good luck with waranty. Next video will be swapping the uslessly bad idea to put a USB thumb drive inside and vital for its operation.... You are running whole lot on a flat VLAN (UDM's are such a domestic, small network device, not enterprise device). Put the cameras on another VLAN and feed it into the SFP+ port. Save the rest of your network the noise. Crikey, you went about this the long way. Export the config from Protect, import into the UNVR, done.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, thanks for your eloquent feedback. I'll address each of your points in turn. How many APs are the right number? How many per acre? I'm interested in your expert knowledge to get it right. As I mention the UNVR is provided by Ubiquiti for this review, hence the warranty is with Ubiquiti themselves. Which USB thumb drive are you referring to? Do you mean the SSD inside the UDM SE? Or something else? I have 4 VLANs for various purposes (guests, kids, iot), but didn't consider creating one for Protect devices. Not fully understanding how networking infrastructure works, would this speed up the overall performance of the network? Yes, it turned out it was the long way. You don't know something until you do, and I learnt. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and used carelessly can cause sudden unforeseen social side effects. Thanks again 😊
@capnjackswallows2888
Жыл бұрын
Just one thing that I would really want to know, what is the CPU and RAM usage on the UDM SE when you migrated to the UNVR?
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
It's a good question. I have since added Unifi Connect (video coming soon), and added another camera and AP, so I am not sure tbh. Not a very helpful answer, but I am not sure either way.
@tahtskiebasement
2 ай бұрын
how to view all the cameras in big screen on in a TV
@LarsKlintTech
2 ай бұрын
You are probably best off with the Protect Viewport, but there is also an Android TV app.
@nasaspacemanwho6711
Жыл бұрын
Same boat. Just bought an NVR. Currently using my se for about 4 instant cameras. And about to do a house move with a whole house renovation and extention. My plan is to set up the NVR now from. Scratch and add the bullets and flexs to that..
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Good plan. It will be able to run all the new cameras for the extension too😊
@nasaspacemanwho6711
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech 100% decide to jump the gun now and I don't mind nuking my current setup as that was just some internal instant cameras. Looking forward to getting my hands on the g5 flex over here in the UK. love your videos BTW. Been enjoying your back catalogue during my breaking from taking off 1970s era wallpaper!
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@nasaspacemanwho6711 That's very kind ♥ I haven't been able to get any G5 cameras yet, but hoping soon!
@lucianrahl6417
9 ай бұрын
Heads up! 1) Update NVR / UDM / etc. because it could cause camera's to not show up 2) You may have to restart your UDM or unplug the camera's to get UBI to stop the "managed by another device" message
@LarsKlintTech
9 ай бұрын
Thanks Lucian 😊
@TimothyLeBlanc-h1n
Жыл бұрын
Spot on, The steps are simple and correct this is the most straight forward guide I have found. Thank you.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Timothy, so happy it had some value to you.
@SPPhotography89
Жыл бұрын
same passw, when you login unifi web.
@samuelharris4431
Жыл бұрын
"Recovery Code is required if you want Protect devices to be adopted by another Unifi Console"... can be found in: Protect > Setting(Gear) > scroll down to "Other Configurations" > Recovery Code... Reveal or Edit options.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, that is super useful. If I do it again, I will definitely be faster now 😂
@ecu8r
Жыл бұрын
I like yourself had to figure out that part of un manage the cameras from the UDMP so the NVR can start managing them. I did run into an issue though, not sure if you noticed that too. I wanted to get the full usage of the 10G SFP port , it seemed to work fine till I noticed that all the cameras kept getting disconnected for a few seconds every 2 minutes. I ended up changing to the 1G port on the UNVR. Did you notice this also or are you also using just the 1 GB port? Another thing I noticed is that the access through the portal is much faster and loads the feeds much better.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is a bit of a journey. Makes total sense now and I understand why, but couldn't at first. I use the RJ45 Cat6 1Gb connection. I haven't tried with the SFP yet, but that sounds like a bug somewhere. That is not right. I actually find the feed loads faster too, both locally and offsite, even though the UNVR is in a completely different building from the UDM SE.
@peterde3fiskstensgaard340
Жыл бұрын
You might want to try with ubnt as id AND pw for the device. That's a default password on UniFi cameras.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am pretty sure I changed it, but thank Peter 😊
@mrq332
Жыл бұрын
nice job for normal people who start with protect !
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Are there abnormal people who use Protect too? 🤔
@DCJones06
Жыл бұрын
OFF TOPIC ... Hey Lars, watching you battle with the door on your rack cabinet, I can feel your frustration. Not sure if yours is the same but on my cabinet where the door hinges with the main cabinet there is a spring loaded latch you can very easily use to take the door off. For the 10sec to take it off and the 10sec to put it back on I find that whenever I'm working inside the cabinet it's worth taking off (then it won't keep banging into you). Hopefully you have the same spring loaded latch, I couldn't get a good look during your last two videos.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, thanks David. It is a bit annoying, and I probably can take it off. I half left it like this for comedic effect too, so I can't complain as much 😂
@oxylus7223
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lars. That was very useful and hit all the points I was wondering about. I've been holding off adding any more 4k devices since they really cut down the retention time on the UDM Pro. Only downside I guess is that you need to manually re-create all the detection zones and notifications per camera. Wonder if they migrate across if you know what the device password is (I don't know what it is on mine either). May be easier to set a password per device via the CLI and then migrate over? Only other concern would be heat - wonder how hot it will get with 3 or 4 drives in our summer in an environment without active cooling.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
As Charles mentions in the comments too, a backup of Protect on the UDM SE and restore to the NVR might have carried everything across. It does have active cooling, so I think it will be fine. The fans only run when needed, so noise is pretty minimum.
@erazorCTF
8 ай бұрын
See my recent comment on how to set the recovery password for the cameras ;-)
@tomaszmilos
Жыл бұрын
on Protect settings have password for cameras on section Other Configurations
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Good point. Thanks Tomasz.
@humblyright
Ай бұрын
Queue the llama!
@LarsKlintTech
Ай бұрын
Llama drama!!
@osbmx
Жыл бұрын
you can deinstall protect on you udm se to save more resources...
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Ah, of course! I didn't even think of that. Once I get the last camera off it, I can do that 😊
@ecu8r
Жыл бұрын
Yes this is true, I did this as well now the UDMP is only using the router part and the Talk App only. CPU and Memory went down considerably.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@ecu8r I removed Protect from the UDM SE successfully 😁
@guitocosta213
Жыл бұрын
I'm having problems with my NVR, the uProtect application keeps restarting in a loop, it doesn't start properly. I reboot the box and it starts again, + or - 24 hours pass and the problem occurs again. I changed the flash drive that existed inside the NVR (pendrive) for another pendrive and the same problem persists. I've tried everything!
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Can you try and uninstall Protect, then install it again? It sounds like a config issue somewhere in the installation.
@guitocosta213
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech There are no problems during the installation phase. I even tried to use the updated uprotect application in its latest version and in previous versions, it may even work for a few days but it always ends up generating the same bug, the protect application restarting in a loop.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@guitocosta213 This is strange. It sounds like a problem for Ubiquiti support I think. Have you posted on the UBNT forum or submitted a ticket?
@joejoe6949
Жыл бұрын
You should get rid of protect on udm so you not using resources. .
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
I have done this already. Using this approach. Go to /settings/advanced. Enable SSH and set a password. Using PuTTY or Terminal, SSH to root@. Type the password you set in step 2. Type dpkg -P unifi-protect. Restart your UDM Pro.
@LuftdroneDk
Жыл бұрын
I just went through the same upgrade from UDM Pro to NVR, but I just started by releasing all the cameras from my UDM Pro and then adopting them on my NVR. It didnt take long (got around 12 cameras) and just had to adjust the settings for detection etc. It has operated much more smoothly in Live View but the Protect still has a "lag" upon logging on where I can review anything right after login. I have to wait 10-30 secs before I can review any of the small detection clips or even view the Live View with a grid of 9 cameras. They take about the same 10-30 secs before they all start to show full live feed from each camera (3 small dots showing until ready).
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
That is very odd. Mine has been running super smooth and doesn't lag at all, even from remote access. Have you tried the obvious restart? Did you remove protect from the UDM Pro?
@LuftdroneDk
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech Yup, it was the same when Protect was running on my UDM so I suspect that the WD Purple disk might need to be changed or upgraded with a second one (took out the one in the UDM and put in the NVR).
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@LuftdroneDk Ah, didn't even consider that. Let me know if that solves it.
@AppleiOSGenius
Жыл бұрын
Urhome is mini fort Knox
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
It is? Where is the gold then.... 🤔
@VictorDominguez-w2j
Жыл бұрын
Can the nvr and cameras be used standalone or do they require a DM?
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Good question. Hmmm.... You can run the NVR with Protect without a network controller (such as a UDM SE or DM), and the cameras will show in Protect on the NVR. However, the cameras need to connect to a switch to send the feed, so you will need some sort of switches and network infrastructure. For that reason, it is usually recommended having a Unifi network controller on some device somewhere, most likely a UDM SE. Does that make sense?
@VictorDominguez-w2j
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech yea that’s perfect thank you. I have unifi aps, unifi gen 2 switch and docket container running the controller. It sounds like it should still work even though I’m not using a unifi firewall / routing solution.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@VictorDominguez-w2j Yep, I believe it will. Let me know what the outcome is :)
@Tntdruid
Жыл бұрын
Move the network controller to a VM.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Which controller? The network controller? And why? What benefits do I get from having to manage the VM on top of the devices?
@charelsfastbender
Жыл бұрын
Can UNVR use the 4 bays in it INCLUDING the one bay in the UDM? Seems like a waste not having use of the 5th drive bay in the UDM just because you added the UNVR. I always assumed the UNVR was basically a JBOD until this video.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Kinda, and kinda not. The NVR is its own OS implementation, so it has its own Protect application, which will use the bays in the NVR only. You _can_ use two protect applications and split the cameras between the two. So, some cameras run on the NVR and some run on the UDM. Not ideal though.
@charelsfastbender
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech thanks for the reply. Ya definitely not ideal. What would be the main use case of the drive in the UDM if you are using the UNVR?
@enemy-og
Жыл бұрын
How loud is the device?
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
I can't find any official dB numbers for it, but "not very". It's summer here now, so it gets warmer inside and the fans come on more for that reason, but I don't notice it (as compared to my 24 Port 250W switch I had before). I wouldn't have it next to my bed, but it isn't noticeable.
@enemy-og
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech Really appreciate the detailed response; I really want a "silent" system as the rack it will live in is in the same room as me, although I know anything with a mechanical hard drive is going to come with some un-avoidable noise no matter how silent the fans are.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@enemy-og No worries at all. It won't be super quiet, as spinning hard drives and fans will make some noise. I just tested it with a simple phone app, and it runs at about 30-35 dB currently, but the fans aren't on full (it's cool weather today).
@enemy-og
Жыл бұрын
the fans I’m not too worried about as I could technically swap those out for Nocuta ones. I did the same for the Unifi 24 Port Enterprise (2.5gb) switch and it worked perfectly - took it from a monotone hum to completely silent. Do you happen to know if the HDD you’re using is 7200 or 5200rpm? I did some reading online that the 5200 aren’t miles away in speed but are considerably quieter.
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@enemy-og Oh, you can swap the fans? Easily? The HDD is a WD Purple (for surveillance) and they run at 7200.
@Hougaard
Жыл бұрын
Switched microphones? Your audio is out of sync...
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
It is? I used the same setup for everything. Might have been the export. Is it the whole video?
@Hougaard
Жыл бұрын
@@LarsKlintTech No, not the whole thing, it's really bad at the very first segment.... Running separate microphone into OBS?
@Hougaard
Жыл бұрын
... But did notice it in the previous video too...
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
@@Hougaard time to get my head around Premier Pro i think. It's definitely the export. Pita.
@nicloiuas3266
Жыл бұрын
Thanks !!
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome mate. Good luck NVR-ing 😊
@pabloj.garciamalom.153
Жыл бұрын
You know the rack door is detachable right? 🤣
@LarsKlintTech
Жыл бұрын
Haha, totally, but it was a kinda fun bit on video 🤷♂
@tdadarwala
9 ай бұрын
great video. thank you.
@LarsKlintTech
9 ай бұрын
You are most welcome mate. Thanks for watching 😊
@tdadarwala
9 ай бұрын
I have a UDMSE. Then added a camera. That was fine. Recently added the UNVR since it was only $199 on sale. For the life of me I could not figure out why I could not see the camera on the UNVR. This was video was crucial to keep my sanity. lol. I have installed qty 1, Seagate Skyhawk AI 16TB Video Internal Hard Drive HDD - 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache for DVR NVR Security Camera System with Drive Health Management and in-house Rescue Services (ST16000VE002), in the UNVR for now. Works great. Thanx again!
@LarsKlintTech
9 ай бұрын
@@tdadarwala I am with you Tushar. It took me a while (as you saw in the video) to realise there would be _another_ Protect app on the UNVR. Good luck with it and enjoy 😊
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