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@michaelmcginn7260
9 ай бұрын
Great idea👍👍👏
@jackf1841
8 ай бұрын
It's very simple: the EU needs to become a Federation with a strong unified military! (EU Army, EU Air Force, EU Navy and EU Border and Coast Guard)
@lordsummerisle852
8 ай бұрын
The EU needs to be dissolved. 4th reich totalitarian dictatorship
@ioanhogwarts4953
8 ай бұрын
Dont forget eu rocket force
@svens.3839
8 ай бұрын
Very important the Border......☝🏻the external borders must be protected.
@lordsummerisle852
8 ай бұрын
@@svens.3839 mass immigration is part of the EUs agenda unfortunately. The EU is deliberately eroding the nation state and destroying national identity.
@cashcash5995
8 ай бұрын
Create an Army to be a Vassal army of the US , what is for?
@altones1952
9 ай бұрын
Yes unite Europe and build stronger because the future holds many uncertainties
@Hiznogood
9 ай бұрын
American GOP, Trump and his MAGA movement can’t be trusted. 70 million voted for Trump, a known friend of Putin. The house speaker, an republican is keeping much needed fundings for Ukraine’s war effort frozen. Can we trust the USA in the long run? Same goes for Erdogan and Orban which make NATO vulnerable for enemies within. EU was formed to avoid war in Europe by uniting the European countries in trade and movement of freedom, economic aid to boost development and strengthen civil rights and democracy. We now need a military to guard us against hoodlums like Putin and his ilk, we need a steel behind our words to show we mean business and won’t be pushed around by bullies.
@Nom-n9z
9 ай бұрын
Hey sausage Europe is united it's called the European union 🤯
@altones1952
9 ай бұрын
@@Nom-n9z even if they are united they sure ain't strong
@Nom-n9z
9 ай бұрын
@@altones1952 and they never will be as there is far to many heads of state that want to be at the top and want different things. Europe will always rely on the UK and us to bail them out when they start fighting each other.
@dr.vikyll7466
4 ай бұрын
@@Nom-n9z We can be more united, I am currently anti-EU due to my country's economy (Norway), but I would vote for a European Federation in a second.
@ros8737
9 ай бұрын
However the outcome in Ukraine, the more EU spends now, the less expenses will there be in the future.
@Deutschland8894
9 ай бұрын
mmmm when was the last time russia invaded europe?
@ros8737
9 ай бұрын
@@Deutschland8894Irrelevant
@PropagandaBurnerV
9 ай бұрын
@@ros8737 Seems relevant. If you are spending billions of taxpayer dollars on preparing for a problem that does not exist. But it's all an excuse for money laundering in the end, anyhow.
@ros8737
9 ай бұрын
@@PropagandaBurnerV Nonsense. US defense industry earns tax dollars and whatever you think Russia, China, Iran and North Korea says and does, it has only had a positive effect on the western economies so far.
@transparent6842
8 ай бұрын
@@Deutschland8894 It is currently invading Europe lol
@ziomudru
9 ай бұрын
This is so needed, but yet, no politician plans to put it seriously on the agenda
@operator9858
9 ай бұрын
maybe the imminent russian invasion isnt as imminent as they make it out? lol
@93TIAGO
9 ай бұрын
Yesterday it was already late.💪
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@Icarus169
2 ай бұрын
Bad idea. Will undermine national sovereignty further. And totally unnecessary with nato + national armies.
@drywallsurgeon
9 ай бұрын
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. -Martin Niemöller
@PropagandaBurnerV
9 ай бұрын
Well, the people Martin was talking about, were socialists. 🤷♂️
@serviustullus7204
9 ай бұрын
The UK minister is correct. A military-industrial production will achieve the result without structural or ideological revolutions. A Secondary European Army (an EU Army) composed of experienced NATO-trained veterans could be deployed throughout the entire Ukraine against Russia without violating NATO treaties.
@Bird_McBride
9 ай бұрын
Somehow you have to get the fat off the couch...first.
@klausschumacher7126
9 ай бұрын
The UK was always against an EU Army but after Brexit it can be possible.... I don't know why Cameron is now positive about it??? Maybe the UK is running out of money....
@Nom-n9z
9 ай бұрын
@@klausschumacher7126and how does that explain Cameron thinking a EU army is good and by the way the UK is still agains a EU army as it will just turn into a dictatorship
@harryviking6347
9 ай бұрын
As the Americans is no longer to be fully trusted, an EU army is not such a bad idea at all. The numbers on the EU side would be crushing to both Russia and others that might get some "ideas" about the strenght of Europe.
@alexv1190
9 ай бұрын
Nothing has happened yet to not trust USA. This bill for Ukraine is about to pass.
@alangeddes268
8 ай бұрын
I am American and so ashamed of my government.
@BS-vm5bt
8 ай бұрын
@@alangeddes268 Dont be, its just that national policy can always change. I think its good that we create our own army since its a much more stable deterrence. Nations has a higher likelihood of defending themself then others. I think america is extremely good in helping us europeans but for some stupid reason some europeans seems to think we need to be puppets of the US in order for america to help us. While in reality I think america would be positive to a equal alliance. There are a lot of people who say we should not create a EU army since NATO exist and that america would be against a EU army since america would have less leverage over us. I disagree with that notion. I think its good for us to be independent and I also think france was right on the majority of points during the 21st century. They said the war in iraq would be a disaster while the UK and eastern europe sheered america on to invade it. Which lead to trillions of dollars being wasted and lives being lost for nothing. They pointed out that the EU needed our own single army and that we should use nuclear energy instead of oil and natural gas this was during the early 2000s. I think a independent EU as an ally is a lot better both for europe and america since the EU would be more honest to america about different interventions making it easier for self reflection. The same thing I hope americans would do to the EU if we do something stupid. It is always better to have an honest ally then being a sycophantic ally. It would lead to better decisions being made that would improve both sides.
@istoppedcaring6209
4 ай бұрын
yes but first democracy, direct elections for the commission members, president, most internal matters back to states and foreign policy +defense + customs 90% to the EU also an EU tax but this must come at the expense of national taxes, not higher taxes for citizens
@righteousbyfaithinChrist
9 ай бұрын
Im American, and I want you to know how very proud I am of the rapid response of the EU, to what challenges we are facing, due to Putins' goals. Thank God.... I,for one, am very impressed.❤ The excuses or explanations offered by certain members are ludicrous..nor can these members justify this waffling...not to the satisfaction of the American public...they can't.
@ironandzinc
9 ай бұрын
Do you think that the EU is a country??
@tedcrilly46
9 ай бұрын
American takes on EU and Europe are usually semi-informed at best. Logical, but not factual. So the end result is usually quite comical. Its a bad idea for this channel to use a term like European army. EU defense is a complicated topic, still evolving.
@peace_harmony65
9 ай бұрын
@@ironandzinche just talk positivt thing of EU and how we work together like a team, so simple is it
@meso8848
9 ай бұрын
Putin goals or US goals rather? US will not control the world and EU are just sheep of US and won’t do anything
@meso8848
9 ай бұрын
@@peace_harmony65like a team ? You are just executing US orders and without US y’all lost
@chrismitchell4622
9 ай бұрын
Great work Ukraine keep pushing EU to step up and deliver!
@romankuratli1827
9 ай бұрын
Isn't that what NATO is supposed to be and supposed to do right now? Multiple armies covering the same region only create a mess... Better strenghten, enable and activate NATO, since it is already there. Or is there something I do not understand?
@deloughi1887
9 ай бұрын
Well, when a country like Hungary can throw a monkey wrench in NATO plans, it's good to have a plan B..
@uschurch
9 ай бұрын
Disband national armies, EU becomes Nato-Member.
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@romankuratli1827
9 ай бұрын
@@deloughi1887 Good point, completely forgot about Hungary (and Serbia... and maybe Slovakia)
@veritasvincit2374
9 ай бұрын
Good idea. Keep up your courage, relentlessness and cautiousness Ukraine. Stay strong and resilient - you will prevail!!! 🇺🇦💙💛🇺🇦
@CanCJen
9 ай бұрын
Great! Do it! Slava European Union! ❤
@PropagandaBurnerV
9 ай бұрын
An EU army would be far weaker than NATO, and NATO already lost to Russia. 🇨🇦❤🇷🇺
@CanCJen
9 ай бұрын
@PropagandaBurnerV Russia has never had an interest in being a good global citizen, the more protection we have against it the better. Russia is a rotten apple along with it's friends Iran,China and a few other terrorist states.
@randydutton1
9 ай бұрын
EU should create a drone operator school. And should create an EU industry to create all the essential components of drones and EW.
@Nom-n9z
9 ай бұрын
Hahahaha pmsl laughing
@paulonunes2002
9 ай бұрын
A Ucrânia sozinha está dando uma verdadeira surra nos russos imagina toda Europa unida. Só a Ucrânia já destruiu 70% da capacidade militar russa. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@felitaturco123rempojo3
9 ай бұрын
Slava ukrain be strong and i pray for ukrain❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇵🇭
@lilymay7171
9 ай бұрын
@@felitaturco123rempojo3 Heroyam Slava!! 💙💛
@Nom-n9z
9 ай бұрын
You are a liar! Ukraine has not destroyed 70% of Russia's army and the only reason Ukraine has survived this long is thanks to NATO and friends of NATO if the west and their friends didn't help Ukraine then there would be no Ukraine right now, so just calm down on your propaganda
@ВалентинаБелозерова-н2ю
9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@romario_1988
9 ай бұрын
🤣
@paulgudedeberitz2335
9 ай бұрын
A common EU/EEC army would be a good idea. Also general basic military training for all of us between 18 and 60.
@richardlee3502
9 ай бұрын
So now we are going to compete with nato for funding so the average European will pay even more tax 🙄 what a great idea 💡
@micaeloliveira2727
9 ай бұрын
France is asking for it for decades
@Magnev
7 ай бұрын
YESSSSS! I agree !
@alanmcmillan6969
9 ай бұрын
Sounds good on paper. Is that where it says?
@CitizenAyellowblue
9 ай бұрын
“We already outnumber the might of Russia…”. Then why TF are you not supporting Ukraine for victory instead of just aiding a war of attrition?
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@Siranoxz
9 ай бұрын
A European Army has been discussed for many years, i think this time its a serious consideration due to Russia´s aggression now..
@operator9858
9 ай бұрын
does that mean you will stop mooching off the us and build your own army for a change? we're tired of changing diapers over here...
@callback4all
9 ай бұрын
All on the way ;) The plan works ;)
@callback4all
9 ай бұрын
If a European Leader will follow up then? ;)
@nemo6282
8 ай бұрын
you mean NATO"S aggression learn some basic facts, not that difficult
@Fleur-fg4nr
7 ай бұрын
Festung Europa, ruled by NATO and, behind them, Uncle Sam.
@svens.3839
8 ай бұрын
I myself haven't understood for a long time why every country in the European Union wants to cook its own "extra soup". On their own, the states are weak, but if they act together, even with a common European army, the voice becomes a lot stronger, you can target the armed forces strengthen... I wonder anyway why this hasn't happened long ago... European small states should be abolished... we are ALL Europeans!
@joh8379
9 ай бұрын
We need a European united Army.
@oggamer735
8 ай бұрын
Well that would mean every member state would have to cough up the money for it. Never gonna happen. Because it would be like everything in EU. Those member states that have good army and equipment would have to give those for free to those who have done nothing. 😂
@nemo6282
8 ай бұрын
actually Europe just needs a new security framework with Russia why so many against peace is beyond me
@ruZsiaNa-C
9 ай бұрын
❤❤
@Dentarg-lm3kp
9 ай бұрын
YES!!!
@raikouija663
5 ай бұрын
The United States of Europe, but “States Rights” make sense this time.
@Deutschland8894
9 ай бұрын
when was the last time that rusia invaded Europe?
@soldiers23
9 ай бұрын
They already invaded when they attacked ukraine.And we have to stop them now to protect europe from the aggressor.
@justaneditygangstar
7 ай бұрын
Good luck 👍🏼
@GenghisVern
9 ай бұрын
awesome
@Bearfacts01
9 ай бұрын
Way overdue.
@StephenMarshall-e2h
9 ай бұрын
You can see France is mobilizing weapons production in full swing. The Touress missiles with a 300 Mile range coming from Germany will be significant and are needed to take Crimea. The UK has sent some Australian combat soldiers to fight in Ukraine. We are just getting started.
@operator9858
9 ай бұрын
getting started 2 years into a war after you have given away all your stockpiles and have little to nothing to show for it to boot isnt really a plan for success...
@callback4all
9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a version of a "great rich" :) Just with more dictators within :)
@user-yv8cn3ot4g
8 ай бұрын
We need PEACE not w@rmongers!
@matthew-jy5jp
9 ай бұрын
#StandWithUkraine
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@richardlee3502
9 ай бұрын
A European army under the control of unelected people what can possibly go wrong 😂😂😂
@NAFO_MythicPlague
9 ай бұрын
I think Creating a special European Military should be created with some help from My great and Amazing America. It only makes sense to create an entity that can resolve problems in Europe without involving NATO. There would have to be a special provision for several things. Like the European Military would have to be equally funded with NATO getting funding through Americas share plus the NATO Europe while the EM (Europe Military) would fund itself. The each country could then act as its own national guard like we have in America. Then the other part of the soldiers go into the NATO. When a war comes up they all unite and defend each other. Keep the capabilities universal and share the weapons tech with each other for equipment. Of course there would have to be someway of protecting National Secrets and making sure equipment does not fall into enemy hands. However something feasible could be worked out with people far smarter than myself. I think its a very interesting project worth looking into. And I think in the long run it would solidify the EU alliance NATO alliance and as long as it does not get stagnetted like NATO had become prior to the invasion There is Amazing potential. Especially with the creation of a logistics hub that could almost supply any country that would be attacked to just about any part of that country to expedite troop movement.
@hape3862
9 ай бұрын
The "funding" of NATO is only a tiny fee for the administration headquarters in Brussels. The 2% target you probably are thinking of doesn't go into NATO pockets at all, it's just the amount each country is expected to invest into its _own_ military. So, building a European Army wouldn't affect NATO at all. NATO would just have only 3 members instead of 30: the US, Canada and the EU.
@Viconius
7 ай бұрын
i guess it's not strange since no one seems to remember the Cold War. Since it's not something that is taught, there was probably NOTHING to be learned from those 50 years. I hear Line infantry tactics and fixed bayonets are all the rage on the battlefield.
@aronwallies6172
7 ай бұрын
united Europe can be a powerful player on a par with the us and china, and this is the only right way
@BHP9995
7 ай бұрын
This is to try and bring the US and Nato into the war! Are you aware when you corner a beast it will bite back? Are you wanting a Nuclear war? Aere you that daft?!!!
@ALFarrell-kv6ok
9 ай бұрын
There is no stalemate!
@kuenganamgay6410
9 ай бұрын
Great jop Neto
@DrewRobertson1
9 ай бұрын
With NATO existing, this is kinda silly...but with the notion that our orange fascist may gain power again, this is a GREAT idea.
@netizencapet
7 ай бұрын
A joint EU army is the only way to simultaneously ensure peace w/in EU bloc & an independent trade, energy, & foreign policy from US. How? Mutualize more debt & make Euro compete as int'l reserve currency.
@anitacestari4949
9 ай бұрын
What is doing Nato ? Not enough in soldiers Europe has to preparate his securitis in mens but what will be the linguage
@nunosantos485
7 ай бұрын
The EU could just integrate into NATO with its own army. We would speak English obviously, since most Europeans speak it and we’re speaking it right now 😊
@MENSA.lady2
5 ай бұрын
A European Army. Big joke. It would take the EU so long to decide who would be the General that when they did the war would have been lost.
@raitlaats9729
9 ай бұрын
Left me out of powerful players list...wtf
@LinXnerd
9 ай бұрын
It's about the money available that is vastly dwindling in the countries. I hope that Ukraine can do it without the extra money.
@PropagandaBurnerV
9 ай бұрын
Are you completely unaware that NATO has been funding Ukraine's government for the duration of the war? Be a damn shame when all those Heroyams dont get a paycheck. 😂🤷♂️
@simonkormendy849
9 ай бұрын
That's an awesome move from a military strategy standpoint, Mr Putin wants a war with EU and NATO, well, oblige him and give him what he wants and teach him a very bitter lesson the hard way.
@callback4all
9 ай бұрын
We cannot get Turkey out of the NATO so we decided to create a new Alliance :) :)
@leontinaleal3251
9 ай бұрын
I agree with it let's create EU 🪖
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@bjrnbrndelsbo4841
7 ай бұрын
Heck!! Scandinavia if synchronized would overtake Russia.. With a waaay to heavy toll, but they would 110%.....
@BHP9995
7 ай бұрын
Get real! Ukraine is getting destroyed and with our help! You would be decimated!! We will not get involved and it will be the deomise of many in Europe! This will be seen as EU's war and not NATO!! We here in the US want no part any more of these lies Europe is portraying!
@Misterx-xx1lj
6 ай бұрын
Yeah the Lgbt Scandinavia invaded by Middle eastern muslims… you won’t last 2 weeks against Russia . Let’ s be real …
@davidalan7815
9 ай бұрын
slava Ukraini 💙💛🙏
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@robertnemeth6248
8 ай бұрын
Yes it is called NATO.....
@NeubrandGunther-i7x
9 ай бұрын
Schonen abend dear UA TV ❤ well spoken ❤ Slava Ukraine 💙💛
@juliesykes6121
9 ай бұрын
If Trump is elected, he has said the US will leave NATO. A European army is essential. The US has stabilised Europe, we will have to take over that role very quickly or certain countries could take advantage.
@Puchiaca69
6 ай бұрын
Europe like Israel vs Palestinian 😂😂😂😂😂
@johnschuring5726
9 ай бұрын
"If necessary NATO forces will join the European army". Why does everything always involve American money and blood?
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@marcothebarber764
8 ай бұрын
From Portugal, yes to a European army
@BHP9995
7 ай бұрын
Without the US you will lose!! It will lead to nuclear and you cannot defend nor can Ukraine! They lost 45,000 and almost everyhting we gave and still are losing ground! Ukraine was always a part of Russia and not the USSR. They Russia want what belongs to them back and you are trying to steal it. Not with the US help! That is for certain!
@nunosantos485
7 ай бұрын
I’m with you on that, we just have to make sure that we’re fully in line with NATO goals and maintain the alliance we have now. Otherwise, I welcome an EU army/navy/airforce
@BHP9995
7 ай бұрын
You are not the one fighting! When you have served in our great military then you can speak! @@nunosantos485
@BHP9995
7 ай бұрын
@@nunosantos485 Go volunteer for Ukraine and leave the US out of your nightmare!
@nunosantos485
7 ай бұрын
@@BHP9995 I don’t want war with anyone and don’t support any NATO country fighting in Ukraine. All I want is stronger defense policies for the alliance. I want countries to pay more of their budget towards defense and I would like to see a continued expansion of NATO to include our friends in the Pacific such as Australia, New Zealand and many other island nations. The US only has a duty to help if a NATO member is attacked, as do we all.
@temper44
9 ай бұрын
An imperial army shall be created!
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@stevenwiggett9518
9 ай бұрын
Whats cameron talking about when we were in the eu he didnt want to know about a eu army now we are not in the eu so what the fuck is he doing there
@fernandomartosvico1018
9 ай бұрын
🇺🇦🌍🇪🇸🕊️
@johnhopkins6260
9 ай бұрын
Took Europe 80 years to get there; time for them to start carrying their own water.
@tedcrilly46
9 ай бұрын
Pay repatations to those you enslaved and colonized.
@simonkormendy849
9 ай бұрын
Both the UNSC and NATO needs some revamping to make them more effective, I'll have to admit, the UNSC definitely needs overhauling to stop belligerent countries, like Russia, retaining permanent UNSC membership and abusing it, the membership rules need to be tightened up so that if any one nation abuses it's UNSC membership they get automatically stripped of their membership and powers of veto as punishment.
@РостиславЛатипов-ю3у
7 ай бұрын
This means that the United States needs to be expelled from the UNSC because it has repeatedly violated the UN Charter.
@tusek1979
9 ай бұрын
You got it wrong, its not 'european army' ,it will be army of mens, ukrainian's deserters hidden in european countries😅
A european militairy would work but to do so the EU must democratise. 🔰the commission should be a body of people that are capable of writing a detailed paper about their broad functions as a specialist in the field whilst also adding a detailed portion on compromise and nuance. but these must be ellected in EU wide popular elections. 🔰the parliament can stay as is but must get more influence and all members should be held to a higher standard of direct transparancy, they must present honest argumentation why they voted or intend to vote in a certain way simply to present it to the public trough the most popular public platforms available (except when it comes to matters of regional deffense and matters that must remain secret for the common good) 🔰member states should mirror US states in terms of powers. Right now the EU member states actually have less controll over national legislation than US constituent states do despite the former being sovereign. 80% of national legislation is passed by the EU with comparatively pittyfull democratic legitimisation. 🔰every EU organ must be optimised between efficiency and democracy, the president in particular must gain real powers whilst the head of the commission must change to a role similar to that of "speaker of the house" or perhaps a moderately powerfull prime minister. either way a ballance must exist between checks and ballances & capacity to act and all of this again must be in the form of a person that has been elected in EU wide elections, however in this case i'd argue that the EU parliamentary electoral system giving weight to each nation should be used otherwise the large states would always dominate the smaller ones. (we still put national identity over European identity in most cases, which is fine, but that means that unlike the US where someone in Wisconsin will vote for a Texan if the ideology allines with his or her own, a European would be more likely to preferentiate someone from their country over what they stand for.) either this or EU wide popular elections for which every candidate is obligated to forego any national citizenship should they get elected and would gain citizenship in each member state upon leaving office. I propose that member states get most internal matters back. BUT in return: 🔰 the EU gets a standard EU TAX (right now it lacks the income to be effective at governing, especially when it comes to foreign policy, hence why the EU is not really capable of waging a trade war despite the European potential to do so.) 🔰the EU gains 80% controll over national defense, meaning the states retain small forces at their own disposal to utilise for their personal interests (like France in West Africa (knowing they would not agree to such a deal otherwise)) but the EU would gain a sea component, land component, air component, information warfare component and offcourse a space component. 🔰the EU gains the sole right to universal customs enforcement regarding extra EU trade, member states will still share customs enforcement intra EU (also important should they ever decide to secede)
@bigDbigDbigD
9 ай бұрын
Would this be the end of NATO then?
@Bird_McBride
9 ай бұрын
Without Russia NATO has no purpose.
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@naukkarais
9 ай бұрын
ok mister copy paste
@RebeccaGriffin-b8n
9 ай бұрын
What's the difference between this army and NATO??????
@klausschumacher7126
9 ай бұрын
The EU Army would have one voice in NATO together with the US, GB, Turkey and all other non EU countries. One voice is better than 27 .....
@unsalbulent
9 ай бұрын
@@klausschumacher7126 no one is gonna die for ukraine if their own people are having fun in other countries.
@klausschumacher7126
9 ай бұрын
@@unsalbulent and what has this to do with my comment??
@luisaymerich9675
9 ай бұрын
Depending on how such an army and its authority and command structure are organized Europe may find NATO to be redundant. If NATO is a redundancy its European members may pull out. If there is no NATO then there may be no reason for US garrisons to remain in Europe and Europe may call for American forces to leave their countries. Depending on how the future of Russia develops a US presence may not be necessary in Europe which should work well for everyone but such a shift in global politics could erode American influence. Future generations may rewrite history to describe the US presence as an occupying force and future conflicts may find the US and Europe on opposing sides. If such a future seems improbable consider the history of the last 100 years. WWII found the US allied with Russia and China against Germany and Japan and the Cold War reversed that with the US allied with Germany and Japan against Russia and China.
@netizencapet
7 ай бұрын
The entire point is that it wouldn't contain the US
@Urmapleleaf
8 ай бұрын
Do it already. We dont need to rely on USA, it's humiliating
@thomasjamison2050
9 ай бұрын
The Germans actually did this to some extent in WWII, but it's harder to truly pull it off successfully when most of the people under your control don't actually hate you.
@Patt12
9 ай бұрын
Blah blah blah blah heard before no actions see
@Bird_McBride
9 ай бұрын
Don't send weapons to Ukraine, someone might die
@wolfgangrenner4152
9 ай бұрын
The theme how Europe and USA share and separate defense activities is old and must be considered new. All pro Russian forces in EU space (AFD, Wilders, Le Pen, Orban etc. etc.) want to dismantle NATO with the goal to deliver entire Europe to an Russian province. This works, because EU space is economically and militarily so weak, that Europe would accept that Putin marches up to Lissabon without any european counter attacs. This must be hold in mind, by claiming that NATO can be abandoned. Also USA uses NATO to ensure that Europe remains an ally of USA and part of the democratic western states community. If Trump would cancel all NATO bounds to Europe, then Europe would become immediately an Russian / Chinese colony. Ruled in Putins and Xi Jinping interest. Europe is to weak to defend own and shared values. Not able to protect Europe against Chinese economical supremecy and not able to protect Europe against Russian military supremecy. So keep this issue in mind, when dreaming of an "European Army".
@zaphodbeeblebrox3101
9 ай бұрын
A grand army of the republic. Sound familiar?
@god6384
9 ай бұрын
👽
@matijalovrin-tikec8168
9 ай бұрын
eu stop war
@god6384
9 ай бұрын
Russia stop war
@migsvensurfing6310
9 ай бұрын
The war that ruzzia started.
@spotez9547
8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@riccolaroso643
9 ай бұрын
They Talk Rubbish but give Ukraine Toys! Shame on the EU!!!
@migsvensurfing6310
9 ай бұрын
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@peace_harmony65
9 ай бұрын
Weird question?
@nicktechnubyte1184
9 ай бұрын
Definitely a troll account
@istoppedcaring6209
4 ай бұрын
A european militairy would work but to do so the EU must democratise. 🔰the commission should be a body of people that are capable of writing a detailed paper about their broad functions as a specialist in the field whilst also adding a detailed portion on compromise and nuance. but these must be ellected in EU wide popular elections. the parliament can stay as is but must get more influence and all members should be held to a higher standard of direct transparancy, they must present honest argumentation why they voted or intend to vote in a certain way simply to present it to the public trough the most popular public platforms available (except when it comes to matters of regional deffense and matters that must remain secret for the common good) 🔰member states should mirror US states in terms of powers. Right now the EU member states actually have less controll over national legislation than US constituent states do despite the former being sovereign. 80% of national legislation is passed by the EU with comparatively pittyfull democratic legitimisation. 🔰every EU organ must be optimised between efficiency and democracy, the president in particular must gain real powers whilst the head of the commission must change to a role similar to that of "speaker of the house" or perhaps a moderately powerfull prime minister. either way a ballance must exist between checks and ballances & capacity to act and all of this again must be in the form of a person that has been elected in EU wide elections, however in this case i'd argue that the EU parliamentary electoral system giving weight to each nation should be used otherwise the large states would always dominate the smaller ones. (we still put national identity over European identity in most cases, which is fine, but that means that unlike the US where someone in Wisconsin will vote for a Texan if the ideology allines with his or her own, a European would be more likely to preferentiate someone from their country over what they stand for.) either this or EU wide popular elections for which every candidate is obligated to forego any national citizenship should they get elected and would gain citizenship in each member state upon leaving office. I propose that member states get most internal matters back. BUT in return: 🔰 the EU gets a standard EU TAX (right now it lacks the income to be effective at governing, especially when it comes to foreign policy, hence why the EU is not really capable of waging a trade war despite the European potential to do so.) 🔰the EU gains 80% controll over national defense, meaning the states retain small forces at their own disposal to utilise for their personal interests (like France in West Africa (knowing they would not agree to such a deal otherwise)) but the EU would gain a sea component, land component, air component, information warfare component and offcourse a space component. 🔰the EU gains the sole right to universal customs enforcement regarding extra EU trade, member states will still share customs enforcement intra EU (also important should they ever decide to secede)
@istoppedcaring6209
4 ай бұрын
A european militairy would work but to do so the EU must democratise. 🔰the commission should be a body of people that are capable of writing a detailed paper about their broad functions as a specialist in the field whilst also adding a detailed portion on compromise and nuance. but these must be ellected in EU wide popular elections. the parliament can stay as is but must get more influence and all members should be held to a higher standard of direct transparancy, they must present honest argumentation why they voted or intend to vote in a certain way simply to present it to the public trough the most popular public platforms available (except when it comes to matters of regional deffense and matters that must remain secret for the common good) 🔰member states should mirror US states in terms of powers. Right now the EU member states actually have less controll over national legislation than US constituent states do despite the former being sovereign. 80% of national legislation is passed by the EU with comparatively pittyfull democratic legitimisation. 🔰every EU organ must be optimised between efficiency and democracy, the president in particular must gain real powers whilst the head of the commission must change to a role similar to that of "speaker of the house" or perhaps a moderately powerfull prime minister. either way a ballance must exist between checks and ballances & capacity to act and all of this again must be in the form of a person that has been elected in EU wide elections, however in this case i'd argue that the EU parliamentary electoral system giving weight to each nation should be used otherwise the large states would always dominate the smaller ones. (we still put national identity over European identity in most cases, which is fine, but that means that unlike the US where someone in Wisconsin will vote for a Texan if the ideology allines with his or her own, a European would be more likely to preferentiate someone from their country over what they stand for.) either this or EU wide popular elections for which every candidate is obligated to forego any national citizenship should they get elected and would gain citizenship in each member state upon leaving office. I propose that member states get most internal matters back. BUT in return: 🔰 the EU gets a standard EU TAX (right now it lacks the income to be effective at governing, especially when it comes to foreign policy, hence why the EU is not really capable of waging a trade war despite the European potential to do so.) 🔰the EU gains 80% controll over national defense, meaning the states retain small forces at their own disposal to utilise for their personal interests (like France in West Africa (knowing they would not agree to such a deal otherwise)) but the EU would gain a sea component, land component, air component, information warfare component and offcourse a space component. 🔰the EU gains the sole right to universal customs enforcement regarding extra EU trade, member states will still share customs enforcement intra EU (also important should they ever decide to secede)
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