Watch the White Vault right here on KZitem: bit.ly/3UVzASX (or wherever you get your podcasts).
@stoned9874
4 ай бұрын
You really out did yourself with this one 🎉🎈🎊
@Fernando........
4 ай бұрын
You are so awesome you made me completely reevaluate my views on the British
@dinkle9197
4 ай бұрын
you did a wonderful job it was an amazing video and you covered the deaths of the four victims with such grace. thank you!
@Sombomombo
4 ай бұрын
This sponsor pulled my attention more than the video could because, having listened to it, I was so absolutely ready to hear how it connected to the context of the rest of the video. lol
@GamerMoment_
4 ай бұрын
I cant believe I didnt connect your voice to the white vault, Ive been listening to it for quite a while now too
@The_Khuzdul1
3 ай бұрын
The fact that the Witness descriptions of john called him 'Average' must have infuriated him
@UlyssesM
3 ай бұрын
Lol
@AndreNDP
Ай бұрын
Average is probably flattering in his case.
@MrBjanders
Ай бұрын
@@AndreNDP came here to say exactly that - I would have described him as "dumpy looking"
@thilsiktonix
15 күн бұрын
Lol absolutely.
@autoresponder9817
4 ай бұрын
The absolute Freudian slip of starting an introspective piece in 3rd person about the acts committed by your character and then ending it with a 1st person remark. The audacity of this man. Absolutely amazing documentary.
@ianm1462
3 ай бұрын
I had to pause the video just to re-read that. It doesn’t make sense as a narrative technique; it really was the man ‘working through’ his own thoughts on the murders he committed. Absolutely wild.
@Kylel0519
3 ай бұрын
@@ianm1462I just couldn’t believe how he actually wrote that and went “yep that’s believable” and it’s just jaw dropping every time I hear it
@malachilining2730
13 күн бұрын
YES. I couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned because, as ap writer, i noticed it immediately
@somelurker6115
4 ай бұрын
"It was too bad about the baby, but shit, it wasn't my fault." Jesus. What a cold-blooded line.
@namenloserflo
3 ай бұрын
@@jackskudlarek3138 actually, very human... still wrong
@JMBAD_art
3 ай бұрын
Yeah. That in particular made me gasp aloud.
@namenloserflo
3 ай бұрын
@@jackskudlarek3138 No, I'm doing this because I find people interesting. We shouldn't reduce a person to an inhuman monster, because everything they do, they do for a reason, not out of inherent evilness. Most people don't want to be evil. They act on very human instincts and emotions. They decide based on previous experiences and genetics. Some people were born "different", some were raised "different" some experienced certain events that led them to a certain path in life I want to learn more about why people are as they are; a mindset of good people vs bad people doesn't work for that...
@namenloserflo
3 ай бұрын
@@jackskudlarek3138 what this guy did is very common for criminals. They try to rationalize and justify their crimes by any means, because they want to see themselves as "a good person".
@man.horror
3 ай бұрын
@@jackskudlarek3138 I disagree. No animal other than the human race would think this. When an animal kills, for food, defense, or simply for entertainment, they do not rationalise this act. They simply do it based on their urges or instincts. Only a human can think, "It's too bad a child died from my crime, but, that's simply collateral. It is not on me." It's not about reaction, it's simply the truth.
@duskydancing6409
2 ай бұрын
The fact that the arsonist remembered what flavor of ice cream that little boy wanted and recollected it in detail is incredibly disturbing. And blaming a woman and her grandchild for dying in a fire for "behaving stupidly" and absolving himself of murder... I can't imagine how the victims' families, especially Billy, felt hearing that chapter be read in court.
@uffle
3 ай бұрын
Psychologist: You have a problem with authority and are not allowed to join John: No I don't, look at this test I went and got that says I can
@3digitsonthebac156
4 ай бұрын
55:00 the pov switch from “not his fault” to “not my fault” in one paragraph. seems like it’s absolutely telling of John’s feelings given everything else in the book
@briannabanks1659
4 ай бұрын
I caught that one too..
@moeshrooms385
4 ай бұрын
I got absolute chills when she read that line
@smellylorenny
4 ай бұрын
I wonder if they left that in the final draft of the book. It is insane to me that it even got published...
@Omeria
4 ай бұрын
It's truly sickening that this is the way he chooses to write about the death of a small child.
@hppy3181
4 ай бұрын
i was looking for a comment pointing this out so i could like it
@tatecore
4 ай бұрын
When a KZitem channel has all of 8 videos and still has managed to amass almost 400k subs it's a pretty clear testament to the quality of those videos.
@briannabanks1659
4 ай бұрын
I haven’t witnessed something like that happen since Barely Sociable.
@usamahamid898
4 ай бұрын
Not to mention a million views on almost all of them. Quality over quantity.
@greg6924
4 ай бұрын
Indeed. Quality over quantity all day! The sheer amount of research and effort put into these videos is incredible.
@TheTamaranch
4 ай бұрын
Prime example of quality over quantity. A rare thing in modern KZitem.
@nickjohansen9038
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, these AI bots are getting really good.
@gabiiratii
4 ай бұрын
frito bandito, cointosser and pillow pirate are the craziest nicknames for a serial arsonist and i salute you for being able to say these without laughing
@CloozyBadoozy
4 ай бұрын
its pillow pyro but still funny lol
@eeccee11
4 ай бұрын
😂
@katraylor
4 ай бұрын
That strategies highlight on the word "tosser" 😂 Isn't it the UK equivalent of "jerkwad"?
@arciks11
4 ай бұрын
I wonder how pissed the guy was at being given these "cool" nicknames.
@gabiiratii
4 ай бұрын
@@CloozyBadoozy pillow pyro my bad still funny asf
@JMBAD_art
3 ай бұрын
I simply cannot believe that you’re a one woman team. Some of the best work I’ve seen on KZitem in my tens of years on this site. You should be… unbelievably proud of what you’ve created here.
@stupidmangoz
9 күн бұрын
One person*
@shizar998
7 күн бұрын
@@stupidmangoz that works too. (I get you btw, but they're obviously referring to the way people say "a one men X")
@worldofwonderz1
5 күн бұрын
I know, right? She's truly a wonderful spirit. Anyhow, why are there so many crazy people / criminals in the UK, from all of Europe?Meh
@snarkbotanya6557
4 ай бұрын
This documentary is incredibly good. It's thoroughly researched, well-produced, narrated clearly and professionally, and above all, it remembers and respects those who died. Jim Obdam really deserves to be remembered for his heroism during the Ole's fire. He wasn't a cop and didn't chase after criminals or carry a gun, he was a retail employee who found himself in a horrible situation and chose to risk his life to try and rescue complete strangers. That's a level of true bravery and heroism I don't think John Orr and his loose-cannon cop fantasy realize exists. Jim probably felt horrible that he couldn't save Ada and Matthew, but he did so much more than many people would have.
@LaurasBookBlog
4 ай бұрын
"There's no way John would write all his crimes down in a book and try to get it published" [Always Sunny music begins to play]
@macswanton9622
4 ай бұрын
Who wrote that book "(if) I DID IT" ..?
@teyak13
4 ай бұрын
@@macswanton9622 OJ Simpson hahaha
@Madhouse_Media
4 ай бұрын
"The Gang Breaks The Son Of Sam Law"
@kevinmullner4280
4 ай бұрын
They not only worked in Iraq, those shock and Orr tactics.
@HardestTB
4 ай бұрын
The gang goes Jihad (again)
@N0cturne_001
4 ай бұрын
I'm always hesitant listening to true crime due to how often lost lives are brushed passed in favor of the drama, but listening to each victim be named and for us to be reminded of their lives and loved ones was really touching and respectful.
@amarraali7304
4 ай бұрын
I love that these videos aren't just pumped out true crime media you can put on in the background all day. They are hard to watch just as any video about loss of life should be. Made the people feel like people, people who died in a horrifying way and must have been scared beyond what we could imagine. (jeezus imagine how that grandmother must have felt dying beside her grandson, shit could keep a person up at night)
@mj.l
4 ай бұрын
i think 90% of “true crime” is exploitative, sensationalist trash, so i’m always super wary of it, but i agree - this is handled with sensitivity and actually has a story worth telling. not just some horse’s ass youtuber describing a tragedy as if it’s a ‘mystery’, or some other nonsense
@Visiopod
4 ай бұрын
And to top it off, we were also told what they did at the time and why they were there. Something that's often also forgotten about. There aren't many channels that do this. Scary Interesting and Coffeehouse Crime are two that does. Part Time Explorer also does when telling the history of America and American disasters, so does Barely and Slightly Sociable, plus Brick Immortar and Solar Sands the few times they talk about true crime. Fascinating Horror doesn't, but he does provide memorial screens and time to acknowledge their existence and mourn their passing, which is fine as his channel is mostly for quick information about certain disasters, essentially providing bite sized samples of history
@swagathachristie5242
4 ай бұрын
It reminded me of my first experience with death, a classmate’s mother who passed in a home fire. There was this period of desperate wishing from all of us in the school that perhaps her mother had escaped, before it was confirmed she had not. I felt that sorrow again when hearing Billy’s story. It’s such a gutteral helpless experience, and this video truly feels like a memorial rather than any sort of glorification of the criminal behind it.
@Pusheenowaaa
4 ай бұрын
I agree
@TheTexas1994
4 ай бұрын
The fact that John wrote his crimes in a book and tried to publish it is just wild
@Edax_Royeaux
4 ай бұрын
If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer, written by OJ Simpson
@SatanicBunny666
4 ай бұрын
It is but it does make sense considering his psychological profile: an insecure, unstable personality who craved recognition. This is just a guess, but I'm thinking in his head he initially thought they'd connect the dots and there'd be widespread talk of a serial arsonist on the loose (akin to serial killers), and when they didn't and there wasn't the only way for him to get recongition for his acts was to write the book. I'd bet he rationalized it by thinking that no-one will notice (after all, they hadn't connected the dots in over a decade, so one can kinda see how he thought the system would be clueless) and he's going to become a somewhat famous author. Or he's going to get caught, but even in that case, he'd get his fame.
@AlessaParker
4 ай бұрын
John probably: I'm going to write a self-insert novel about the arsonist. They'll never suspect it's actually m-- I mean it's totally not me, I promise. (gets arrested) John: surprisedPikachuface.jpg
@ImNotaRussianBot
4 ай бұрын
What's that quote? Hubris is the downfall of man.
@brennanvilcheck9469
4 ай бұрын
Casual criminalist rule number 1: Don't write down your crimes
@OldeSchoolGirl
4 ай бұрын
Narrator’s voice and cadence in relating the events to the audience is truly gifted.
@dogwithbone
Ай бұрын
the fact you specified the part about the boy getting icecream after the trip to the store meant he was probably going to die, but i still froze up when you named him. dude didn't even get a chance to live yet, gut wrenching
@paulie.d33
4 ай бұрын
You already know Marv was insufferable at the next Arson Investigators Conference after John was charged lol
@AfroGothixa
2 ай бұрын
fr 💀
@UnknownUser-fe5zu
4 ай бұрын
The Frito Bandito has got to be the funniest nickname for a serial criminal I have ever heard. 😂😂
@joshuathomas043
4 ай бұрын
The guilt I feel for how hard I laughed at that name....
@kickiniitbak
4 ай бұрын
“The potato chip file” lmao
@yerabbit
4 ай бұрын
I remember hearing this name as a kid and thinking it was a chip mascot, not an arsonist
@thegreencat9947
4 ай бұрын
@@yerabbit Frito-lay used " the Frito Bandito " in the television commercial.
@djquinn11
4 ай бұрын
What about The Butt Bandit in London from a few years ago?
@hezhekov2798
4 ай бұрын
The narration on this channel isn’t praised enough. It’s softer on the ears, easier to listen to than most other amateur documentarians on KZitem. This really is professional in every way.
@sweetj.creates2429
4 ай бұрын
yes!!! the voice is so nice to listen to
@tridipboro7584
4 ай бұрын
Yes. Lemmino is great too.
@jackplenty2064
4 ай бұрын
@@tridipboro7584 About to say this reminds me of Lemmino
@statictv4451
4 ай бұрын
Female version of Lemmino 😍
@Bob-Jenkins
4 ай бұрын
The animation is brilliant as well. I do a spot of 3D animation myself and I like the subtleties in this. The angles used when looking at documents, dof, smoothness etc. all in all an excellent job on all fronts. 🙃👍
@LittleLootGoblin
3 ай бұрын
I have to give it to y'all, I've watched a lot break downs of stuff like this (true crime, disaster documenters, mass casualty events etc.) and considered myself desensitized to it all but something about how you told about those first killed brought me to tears. I don't know what it was, cause it's not an uncommon format to give background on specific victims and then tell the story of how they died, but it really got me this time.
@ianfox7173
4 ай бұрын
This one has me thinking. I used to be mean and vindictive, but never acted on it. Several things happened in my life that could have boiled over into me being a monster. I found help and i found love. John, however, is someone i could find myself being a monster towards. Everything this boy did came from deep insecurity and instead of taking accountibility and fix himself, he not only destroyed lives but ended some too. All the while stuck in his dillusion of being some kind of anti-hero. Those poor people had nothing to do with him. He chose to make sure others had to suffer. Heck that dude.
@WheresMyInhaler
3 ай бұрын
lol STFU your still a monster if you were ever capable of setting fire to some building with people in it. You’re a pssy, imagine having sympathy for this pig fck. I’d make sure you didn’t do shit you freak.
@stupidmangoz
9 күн бұрын
I don't wanna be a nerd but it's delusion, dillusion sounds like a chemistry noun or adjective. I can see where the confusion comes from though unless someone pronounces it like "the" with "thee"
@th3m1st0cl3s
4 ай бұрын
The fact that we've culturally reached a point where "GTA-style" is an unironic term to describe rampaging is crazy, yet everyone knows what it means, and how it shows crime beyond that of normal criminals.
@jesss101
4 ай бұрын
i wonder what that says about such a famous game, that unthinkable amounts of violence describes it. i'm not one of those "games = violence" people, but i do wonder about the general effects of in-game violence on people 's psyche ://
@fidelio9301
4 ай бұрын
@@jesss101 It doesn’t affect people at all. It’s a game.
@caittails
4 ай бұрын
@@fidelio9301 That’s not what updated research says but ok, keep living in the 90s. 😂
@fidelio9301
4 ай бұрын
@@caittails Cry snowflake
@vashtic2036
4 ай бұрын
@@fidelio9301 There's evidence that there's short term increases in aggression during play, but also the glorification of violence in media is directly linked to greater acceptance of violence in real life. It's not a direct case of "videogames = violence IRL" but there's a definite link. It's not the exact same, but look up the pyramid of domestic violence causes; it sounds insane, but the "lesser" crimes of referring to women with demeaning language does literally, eventually, link to actual, physical violence.
@Lozzatron100
4 ай бұрын
The chapter cut in of 'he wrote a book about it and tried to publish it' really caught me off guard, my jaw dropped 😂
@RedFawcett
4 ай бұрын
Same, LOL
@jamesknapp64
3 ай бұрын
Having watched the 1995 Nova episode on this, I knew that was coming and was already laughing knowing it was coming.
@recordkeepingandinformatio8206
2 ай бұрын
@@blepblep7245OJ simpson
@CatMom-uw9jl
4 ай бұрын
I’ve watched TV documentaries on this case over the years, but this is the first time I’ve heard a detailed description of Ole’s layout, and this is the most descriptive, evocative story of that fire. You’re an amazing creator!
@elliepascoe5954
4 ай бұрын
She IS, isn't she?❤
@newnamewhodis1
4 ай бұрын
Not to mention the anecdote about John and his ex wife at the end. I've never heard that before. And all the documentaries I've watched never went into too much detail of the investigation.
@helengraves7850
4 ай бұрын
Agree! This is the first time I've ever understood exactly what went wrong at Ole's. Just terrifying.
@macswanton9622
4 ай бұрын
Credit where due, saying 'potato chips' must have been ...difficult
@LaMan4736
2 ай бұрын
I don't understand how this is so high quality. You should literally be lead writing for large organizations! This was an absolute masterpiece of storytelling presentation
@user-ri4hy1qw4l
27 күн бұрын
Nah its overdramtic
@ark4ngelVal
3 ай бұрын
11:25 Wow. This was genuinely so beautiful, I usually don't like true crime because of how sensationalized it can be but what a deeply kind and compassionate way of approaching journalism on the subject. Thank you for making this.
@Squirl7504
18 күн бұрын
+
@pumpkinboyo6459
4 ай бұрын
Not even finished yet but the narration, the story telling, the 3d elements??? There's a reason this channel is so popular with so few videos, it's well deserved
@sillygo0oser
4 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the jack the ripper video some guy made a few years ago that was real well done
@kamikamkamm
4 ай бұрын
@@sillygo0oser that guy was lemmino! His videos are always sooo well done
@Renzy_YT
4 ай бұрын
That closing minute was jarring. Genuinely can not comprehend that it's just one person behind this channel. I could've sworn you were a hired narrator, a team of editors, and a graphic designer, at minimum. You absolutely deserve your success and more.
@ValerieEnriquez
4 ай бұрын
50:22 That transition is perfection. *chef's kiss* I am dying.
@Celeste-hl1kw
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I cackled 😂
@newnamewhodis1
4 ай бұрын
I watched a few times. So good.
@Kiss_My_Aspergers
4 ай бұрын
The music is what really sells it
@narracottli4624
4 ай бұрын
"it'll be ridiculous-" John: Hold my cigarettes
@queenb67
4 ай бұрын
Perfection
@rubyshrimpton4730
3 ай бұрын
I didn't know this was literally a one person a one person channel. That's astonishing. The research, the story-telling, the structure, the voice-over, the footage is all excellent.
@Wilderness-Will
3 ай бұрын
The depth of research, the quality of storytelling and presentation, the visual design, and the ever-present sense of awareness that you're sharing extraordinarily tragic stories of real human experiences and the need to be sensitive to that fact all contribute to this being one of the best channels of KZitem. Thank you for doing what you do.
@bendybus5165
4 ай бұрын
I think a real 'devil is in the details' moment can be had at 55:22 when you realise that he wrote "It wasn't my fault" in a book that is written in third person.
@pestilence.and.plague
4 ай бұрын
NGL I actually gasped at that
@michaelsurratt1864
4 ай бұрын
Well In the story the criminal is thinking to himself
@canoaslan1011
4 ай бұрын
@@michaelsurratt1864 Maybe oogle what 3rd person means
@michaelsurratt1864
4 ай бұрын
@@canoaslan1011 yeah I was wrong. I rewatched it.
@bendybus5165
4 ай бұрын
@@michaelsurratt1864 if that was the case he would've said "it wasn't his fault", the rest of the text passage around the sentence is written in the third person. Grammatically its incorrect to use "my" in a book that is written in such a way (which it is, it's written from the perspective of the fictional character, not from the author, so in the third person), let alone change from third person perspective to first person perspective. A proper Freudian slip.
@eggnog814
4 ай бұрын
85 mins of Real Horror for the weekend is the most PHENOMENAL event possible
@sophistoast
4 ай бұрын
The care and respect shown to those who died was so touching, so often people just mention the casualties and then move on. But it is a testament to your storytelling ability and tact to show such respect when talking about the tragedy.
@Squirl7504
18 күн бұрын
+
@wolverian8176
3 ай бұрын
The Narators voice hits me in the feels more than most. Excellent production and writing on this channel.
@deepsouthheat
3 ай бұрын
The descriptions of the death of Matthew had brought me to tears as you told his story. The way he clung to the ankles of his grandmother, Ada. The sheer callousness of the deflection of guilt. I could only think of my mother and my 2 year old son dying in a fire like this. May John rot in hell
@skidspace2452
4 ай бұрын
This is legit one of the best executed KZitem videos I’ve ever seen. The balance between fact and emotional weight injected into the narrative of the video is amazing. Such respect for the actual lives that were affected by this case presented in a way that is on par with a Hollywood blockbuster.
@ZeusKabooze
4 ай бұрын
I really reccomend the Helios flight video, that made me cry.
@beth1979
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I believe the narrator was as good as Peter Thomas, a master at interjecting the right emotional weight into the otherwise dry episodes of forensic files.
@markerofthemidnight7469
4 ай бұрын
14:49 I almost feel ashamed about how hard I laughed at “Frito Bandito”.
@abbikazoo1117
4 ай бұрын
Don't worry, I did too. Honestly kudos to the narrator for being able to say that as many times as they did with a serious tone
@jesss101
4 ай бұрын
i suddenly cracked up and was like- wait what? had to rewind
@StaticSkater
4 ай бұрын
You shouldnt, its stoken in anti-hispanic racist propaganda and shifted the focus away from the true culprit , a white man
@JAYYBLAZINN
4 ай бұрын
LMFAOO NO ME TOO LMFAOOO
@thegreencat9947
4 ай бұрын
At that time ." Frito Bandito " was a popular television commercial.
@SilentChelsea
4 ай бұрын
I remember studying this case during the arson unit in my forensic class. John was still teaching from prison & he is more than willing to give the details from his case as if he is an expert on it & not the one that committed it. it was deeply upsetting, especially as I've grown up around the cities he terrorized years before I was born. my parents & grandparents remember those fires & the fear. amazing video! really enjoyed it & look forward to the next!
@Cropcircledesigner
4 ай бұрын
Oof. This made me realize he's probably continued to deny it because so much of his ego is wrapped up in being "law enforcement".
@voxlity
3 күн бұрын
It's deeply ironic how good of a grasp he has on his own arsonist psychology, even teaching about it, yet being unable to admit to his own crimes.
@trouty606
4 ай бұрын
Honestly one of the most surprising parts of this whole story is learning that at least at some point in their history, the LAPD conducted psychological testing on applicants and actually screened out an emotionally unstable dangerous lunatic. Nowadays they'd probably consider that part of the qualifications for hiring.
@Akursedtime
2 ай бұрын
During the explanation of the numerous fires. I immediately thought "Its someone who works in the fire department or the police department." Most arsonists are thorough but won't conduct that many fires because they know they will get caught quickly. Its someone who is far too comfortable in starting fires.
@fauxsito
4 ай бұрын
I've lived in LA for nearly 13 years, have a lot of family here, am a born & bred Californian, and never knew about these fires. Horrifying. The lack of interdepartmental communication reminds me of the Zodiac case, another California one. Sigh. So much could be solved much faster by collaboration, I really don't get why it isn't a priority in these kinds of things. Glad it eventually ended up in collaboration at least. Thank you for the brilliant work as always.
@BX138
4 ай бұрын
Not sure about Orr, but I think Zodiac did that on purpose, to slow down the investigation.
@fauxsito
4 ай бұрын
@@BX138 oof yeah. Certainly would make sense.
@waymire01
4 ай бұрын
A lot of it was simply the time period. Nobody had computers, especially in smaller cities/towns, and even when they did it took decades for the data to be compiled into databases that could be accessed by multiple agencies. It was a different world.. everything was forms and paper files stuck in a storage room somewhere. At the time they did the first fingerprint search it most likely involved a series of individual phone calls to each agency, a request put in to a clerk who would make a photo copy of the original document which was then faxed to the inspector.. a process that probably took a week or more with ten agencies to contact and wait for response from ..and then those low resolution images would be compared visually. These days you pop open software, update your sample, and it can search the entire country in a few hours at most, with a result that not only shows matches but anything close within a percentage of probability.
@Snappy650
4 ай бұрын
Lived in Pasadena for years. Only older people even know this story, and they don’t like talking about it.
@TQM
4 ай бұрын
The fires started 40 years ago, in the 1980s. Unless you're in your 50s or older, you wouldn't have really heard about them or cared about them much. Not really an issue of communication in that case.
@synesthesia.aesthetic
4 ай бұрын
You always hold so much dignity for the lives lost that you feature in these stories.
@cielle.b3859
4 ай бұрын
Not even 20 minutes in and my eyes are sweaty. I really love how this channel emphasizes the fact that the lives lost in tragedy aren't just numbers, but are people who lived lives. A lot of the times videos like this skim past the names of people and you tend to forget the value that each life holds. It feels really respectful the way that you portray them
@here1412
3 ай бұрын
Right at @11:10 I started tearing up after the narrator said that
@xeo6036
4 ай бұрын
ever heard of Serhiy Tkach? police officer turned killer (100+ people) then had a kid while in prison with some girl who was obsessed with him being a killer. crazy case, great video btw!
@BDB78
Ай бұрын
Got a link by chance?
@xeo6036
Ай бұрын
@@BDB78 i mean… google the name and find a video
@MrPek-fe9fp
Ай бұрын
Wicked people. Both of them
@Manzi-sg3nh
3 ай бұрын
That was an amazing documentary! I couldn’t stop watching the entire thing, it was so well put and captivating. Also the transition of “it’s not like John is going to write all of his crimes in a book and then try to get it published, right? That’s ridiculo… * he wrote everything he did out in a book and tried to get it published *” Comical, perfect subtle comedy. Very well done
@okiepc6328
4 ай бұрын
now i’m a young, broke preschool worker who vehemently enjoys plenty of small KZitemrs, but i’ve never considered becoming a patron of a KZitem channel as much as i have once i stumbled across your channel. and knowing now, based on your end card, that you’re in fact a solo creator, i just *need* to give you some money for the absolutely brilliant, dedicated work you do. the respect you pay the victims of the crimes you discuss, the incredible effort put into both script writing and visuals, the way you (as so few creators unfortunately are able to) manage to not sensationalize or romanticize these horrific crimes - you are truly one of a kind. i’m so looking forward to seeing more content in the future. thank you!
@Abstract
4 ай бұрын
This means a lot me, thank you so much.
@goose_4204
4 ай бұрын
Babe wake up real horror posted‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
@PaulRudd1941
4 ай бұрын
Oh... that's right...
@Jhamstra42
4 ай бұрын
The only reason I’ll ever wake her from a nap is when this channel drops a new one.
@xenondestiny
4 ай бұрын
Babe wake up real horror is outside our door
@clemclemson9259
4 ай бұрын
@@xenondestiny dont live in fear
@Tomdatruth
4 ай бұрын
Original KZitem Comment™
@BX138
4 ай бұрын
The "Frito Bandito" was the cartoon mascot for Fritos Corn Chips from 1967 to 1971.
@Abstract
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I kept coming across that little guy when I was looking in newspaper archives! He has a sombrero and whip for some reason. Really made me want a bag of Fritos.
@justinlast2lastharder749
4 ай бұрын
@@AbstractBecause Fritos are Corn Chips, which was a Mexican thing just like Tortilla Chips. Frito in Spanish means "Fried".
@catfan913
4 ай бұрын
the fried bandit?
@dastrnad
Ай бұрын
I’m old enough to remember that commercial lol.
@Squirl7504
18 күн бұрын
+
@nexaentertainment2764
4 ай бұрын
Your way of annunciating and emphasizing sentences [and story telling ability] is super unique and I love it.
@cappytalysm
3 ай бұрын
So many people have echoed this, but having heard this story before, this is a *fantastic, almost unimaginably good* retelling of it. The pacing is phenomenal, the animation is simple, and while conceptually fairly standard for true crime videos, managed to be used just enough in conjunction with the quotes and real photos that it was absolutely gripping for every second. The twist's presentation was fantastic, as well as the SECOND twist. And you manage to discuss one of the most cold hearted, disturbingly narcissistic cases I've ever heard into a story about the people who stopped it, and the victims. The perpetrator is brought up, as its unavoidable (especially in this particular story), but it manages to feel exceptionally like he's a footnote in comparison to the people who suffered at his hands, and the people who stopped him, in the best way. This is higher quality than the vast majority of fully produced and staffed documentaries I've seen.
@mbuck253
4 ай бұрын
My house was set on fire by a serial arsonist/murderer with both me and my dog inside the home. It’s been almost two and a half years since that day, but after countless continuances, the trial has FINALLY began. I’ve lost so much, but I still have my life and my dogs still with me. I finally got to give my testimony this past week and I got all of the evidence I gathered admitted as evidence which was huge! But the weight hasn’t lifted yet like I’d hoped it would. I guess just like with everything else in life… it’s a process.
@Weirdoeevee
15 күн бұрын
Update when you can. Hug your pups.
@ouranhostphan1018
4 ай бұрын
LA Native here, we recently had an arson case just last year. It took down one of the busiest exits on the I-10 freeway for about a week. The fire broke out underneath one of the exits which is covering a car storage yard. I read that the front of the fire truck closest to the fire had started melting.
@1f5sda
4 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh! I am sorry to hear that.
@Moosenstein
4 ай бұрын
I had to pause this, as the emotion flood of the first fire having a taken the lives of 4 people really overwhelmed me. Thank you for succinctly, and respectfully, reporting on these people's lives. They mattered, and I'm glad to have learned about their tragedy here.
@cessnacitation-x
4 ай бұрын
You're kidding right? Grow up.
@RiruRana
4 ай бұрын
@@cessnacitation-x Oh the irony.
@moeshrooms385
4 ай бұрын
@@cessnacitation-xAre YOU kidding? Or do you just not understand basic empathy and human emotion?
@sisseholm4869
4 ай бұрын
@@cessnacitation-x my first reaction was the same as urs but then i realised that this person is most likely healthier and just not as desensitised to the horrors of the world as us degens
@meh.7539
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, same, that was horrific. Between Billy trying to get his family and then the doors falling shut and not being able to open them back up... everything about that situation is, as you said, just such a heartbreaking and monumental tragedy.
@kj7067
4 ай бұрын
I normally really dislike true crime, but your empathy and willingness to look beyond sensationalism makes your work truly excellent. Don't worry about the upload schedule - I think a lot of your listeners are quite willing to wait for this level of quality.
@AtheistPirate
18 күн бұрын
The fact that one person can do what large studios require whole teams of people for (and with arguably better writing) is several orders of magnitude beyond impressive. Bravo!
@grantzu
4 ай бұрын
bro that book twist was so hilarious man lmao
@janus1936
4 ай бұрын
Your longest video yet and it is SO GOOD. Love your victim-centric approach, never downplaying or sensationalizing what happened to the victims and never portraying the perpetrators as anything but monsters
@r2212xx
4 ай бұрын
A masterfully created and presented yet another slice of history. Thank you for bringing such events to wider attention.
@maryseeker7590
3 ай бұрын
Wow! Generosity!!
@justmagdalenadownhere
3 ай бұрын
this is by far the largest amount i've ever seen donated via thanks - well-deserved, if you ask me!
@Happy_dad-77
3 ай бұрын
@justmagdalenadownhere if I googled the symbol correctly, that's in rupees so comes out to 25 USD. Still a wonderful donation nonetheless
@justmagdalenadownhere
3 ай бұрын
@@Happy_dad-77 oh, i saw it in pounds ☠️ didn't look closely enough. 25 bucks is still good, indeed!
@MERNOXOPHLAM
Ай бұрын
@@Happy_dad-77they’re probably aware, i’ve never seen a donation over $15 let alone $25. an amazing display of kindness and appreciation for the content.
@absolfan1184
3 ай бұрын
Re-watching this video and I want4ed to leave the comment that this deserved. First of all, I love seeing a woman run channel doing such a wonderful job. As other people have mentioned, only 8 videos and almost half a million subscribers is incredible! Truly speaks to the level of quality being produced. I love all the little bits and pieces of this video. The clean animations, the wonderful use of archive material, and real world artifacts to help explain yourself. And, most of all. The clean and clear respect given to all the people who suffered through these events. The time given to each victim, and the solemnity with which they are discussed is perfectly done, and something I certainly wish more channels would do. I'm subscribed and looking forward to whatever you choose to put out next. I have no doubt it'll be wonderfully done.
@emfxdigital
4 ай бұрын
The amount of quality in this channel is sooo refreshing. The animations, the scenes, the research, the evidence, the storytelling, it’s all delivered in such a damn good way.
@andrewjhollins
4 ай бұрын
This is truly outstanding writing, editing, and narration. With true crime becoming overrun with derivative, uninspired content, this is a masterclass in video essays-- hell, in storytelling in general. How you don't have millions of subscribers, I genuinely don't understand. This is the most underrated channel on KZitem, and it's not a close race. Bravo.
@MarcelVos
4 ай бұрын
The channel has just eight videos so the "low" (384k is still a lot of people) subscriber count makes sense.
@cobyjonescojo9586
4 ай бұрын
10:10 If there is a flash over fire that is over 1000° wouldn't the METAL ROLLER DOORS be nearly impossible to open manually and hold it open and having all of the hot air rush out that way
@The_Gothic_Pickle
4 ай бұрын
Its crazy how close to home this is. My whole family were born and raised in LA, and my dad knew John Orr. Orr was the brother of his scout leader, and he spent the night at his house before going deer hunting with him at the height of the arson attacks. Its scary how small the world is sometimes.
@RioTorxx
4 ай бұрын
@The_Gothic_Pickle Hits me super close to home, too. My brother was good friends with the Orr family here in Glendale.
@jameslittlejohn8250
2 ай бұрын
I usually make fun of people who leave comments just saying a video is good, because they could just like the video, but lord have mercy. I was recommended this video by youtube like 30 times and every time I thought it would be boring but I finally caved. This was literally the best video I have ever watched on youtube I was captivated for the full hour and a half. Absolutely amazing video, I have never watched anything like it.
@cpasr8065
3 ай бұрын
Holy-- This is just spectacularly made, way better than almost all documentaries I have seen, online or offline. Good enough to give people like Barely Sociable and Lemmino a run for their money. Keep up the amazing work. And ofc, thank you for making all these great vids
@Graylikethecolornotgrace
4 ай бұрын
Out of all the horror channels I listen to, you are my favorite. I get so excited when you upload!
@briannabanks1659
4 ай бұрын
Same, I felt like I had come across such a special gem when I found this channel a few months back. But I’ve been worried there might not be another upload, so an hour and 25 mins of content is awesome. Her voice is such a good fit for this content, really gives it the emotional resonance it deserves.
@LexxLeoppard
4 ай бұрын
Please don't ever change or leave us, you're amazing. 🥺
@jemjimjam5444
2 ай бұрын
I watched this video for the first time when it came out but this moment in the video still hits me. It's right at the beginning when you're explaining the first fire at Ole's when you start talking about the four people that lost their lives that night. Four. It's small and some would dismiss it and not care about such a detail but it's not just a detail. Those were people just like the rest of us who had lives individual and unique to themselves and they were lost in an instant, never to be replicated again, due to the actions of one selfish man. That really struck me, how you lingered on that moment, and it made me realise why me and likely others watch this channel. Majority of the creators that cover true crime or horror stories tend to discuss it quite descriptively, with a distance between them and the incident - usually a horrible one - being told to us. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with that approach but Real Horror brings a humanity to their videos that other channels I've watched that cover the same topics don't. It makes me feel for the people that got caught up in these tragedies, not just numbers but real, living people that had their lives ahead of them only to have it ended so quickly before they can even realise it. I still remember some of those people. Jack Eaton, a boy only in his school years froze to death after being marched to his death by a teacher he looked up to and should have been able to prevent such a horrible fate. Gerry, a kind, bubbly woman who tried to complete a hike she wanted to tick off her bucket list only to end up straying from the path and losing her life due to a few, critical mistakes. They aren't just the names you hear listed off the news but genuinely feel like people that thrived and struggled and lived on this planet just like the rest of us. That's something I've seen no other channel manage to capture. I can only thank Real Horror so much for doing this and making us feel so much empathy which is hard to find nowadays in these people that end up in such horrific circumstances that lead to their untimely deaths, instead of reading it all out to me like an unfeeling doctor's diagnosis.
@duno7354
3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that this channel takes the time to emphasize that these people’s faces aren’t just pictures for a story. They were real people with families, lives that they didn’t get to live the rest of. Other channels don’t do that as well. It hurts but it makes everyone aware that this is in fact, a tragedy
@justinhamilton8647
4 ай бұрын
literally dropped everything I was doing, this channel is so addictive
@elliepascoe5954
4 ай бұрын
Same!
@Squatle
4 ай бұрын
The absolute quality of this channel is unbelievable. It's seriously better than most professionally backed productions. Well paced, no added drama, fantastic narration. Top quality
@CatMom-uw9jl
4 ай бұрын
I’d forgotten about the book! Belongs next to OJ Simpson’s “If I did it.” I’m no mental health professional, but I’d guess he’s a malignant narcissist whose reality never lined up with his self image. Failure after failure, a career developed not through skill and talent but by taking advantage of weak spots in the system (a fire department desperate for firefighters, willing to take even unsuitable candidates, then has no arson investigator so he can step into the role). If he’d managed to become a policeman, his career probably would have been marked by disciplinary problems, screwups, and repeated firings, leading him to become a “tramp cop” moving from place to place until he screwed up again. I had no idea he was as prolific as he was, and as someone who grew up in Northern California, mention of the brush fires he set is even more chilling. Any one of those could have turned into a massive wildfire. I’ve lived in the Pacific Northwest for 25 years now, and your mention of those hot, dry winds in the fall made me immediately remember how they feel on your skin and in your nose and throat, and the way they rattle the dry grasses bleached tan by the summer heat, and the tickle of fear always in the back of your mind that one tossed cigarette or match could cause a fire that threatens homes and lives.
@keren6583
Ай бұрын
The literal fact that this is just one person making these well written, well edited, well visualized, just all around fantastic videos is incredible. WOW. I really thought this was made by a whole team. Amazing job!
@AsuraOmni
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely devastated that I'm caught up with all your videos- you might have some of the best narration I've heard on this site. Your voice is lovely while your writing is beautiful and fascinating. Amazing work.
@meevins
4 ай бұрын
i already knew the title card was coming from the timeline but the way you transitioned into it at 50:21 got a way too hard of a laugh out of me and was some very much needed relief in all of this.
@blornblad4381
4 ай бұрын
It’s been so long since we saw you last, I had almost forgotten about you entirely. I say that with all due respect, as I also nearly forget that Lemmino still exists as well. He’s the only other creator that I can think of that vanishes for 6 months, drops an incredible documentary out of nowhere, then goes back into obscurity until the next one.
@fernlikespossums
4 ай бұрын
for me another is bobby brocoli (he does more science stuff but he's so slay)
@briannabanks1659
4 ай бұрын
Shoot, it probably takes nearly that long to create such well researched, lengthy videos, and put them out.
@pedro-pascals-armpit
4 ай бұрын
I also really like JCS (Jim Can't Swim)
@InessentialMotionPictures
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate an artist who lets the work speak for itself.
@AYVYN
4 ай бұрын
Most of my subscriptions do that, lmao
@GeneralSkiddles
4 ай бұрын
you would think you have a full team behind these videos with how perfect they come out. The fact that you are doing this all on your own is incredible. You are one talented human being. And your narrator voice is just so perfect for these types of stories. So glad I stumbled across this page
@mattgehringer8554
17 күн бұрын
This might be the best channel on KZitem. The way you research, tell stories, the pacing, the care and emotion you put behind it while keeping it tasteful. WOW wow wow I’m lost for words
@vulpinequeen9269
4 ай бұрын
0:23 I spy a kitty
@Venmaylove
Ай бұрын
Meow
@seonaelizabethcoster8465
25 күн бұрын
Kitty has a purrfect eyeview
@paperboy1116
4 ай бұрын
Not even a full five minutes in and I immediately caught on to your new way of reading the script. Excellent production value on an excellent video!
@charlierocket8355
4 ай бұрын
The level of respect and humanity you treat all of these cases with is far greater than a lot of true crime podcasts/docuseries/videos even bother to achieve. The dramatization and disrespect of true crime lately has made me greatly distance myself from most of it and I truly wish people could take a note or two from your work to just tell the stories as they are because they're horrible enough without the gratuity and incentive ways victims are discussed. Thank you for focusing on what's important, which is the facts and the tragedy that lives we're lost.
@Meredith34567
3 ай бұрын
Video: shows pictures of John Orr and Dennis Wilson Me, a person with face blindness: this is the same photo
@forbiddencrystalinternet6201
4 ай бұрын
When they showed the pictures of John Orr and Dennis Wilson 20:30 I laughed so hard cause it literally looks like 2 pictures of the same guy. Amazing documentary though, very comprehensive and with consideration of the human angle WITHOUT being saccharine. A+ guys.
@thosemovingpictures
27 күн бұрын
literally same, they look like twins
@flannyfizzle9402
4 ай бұрын
Somewhere Simon Whistler is screaming, “Don’t write down your crimes!” Haha 😂
@adamfnandf
4 ай бұрын
Was waiting for someone to say this lmao
@samanthaw3845
3 ай бұрын
I just got to that point I this video and heard that exact phrase in Simon’s voice lol
@terranova9963
4 ай бұрын
i was literally rewatching your videos last night thinking "there's gotta be a new one coming soon"
@identitymatrix
4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Stephanie Lazarus who was a police detective for 20 years until they found out she committed a murder before she became a cop.
@queentoe8002
2 ай бұрын
She actually committed the murder while she was a cop but was able to be promoted to higher ranks decades after the crime before she was caught :(
@juliusfucik4011
29 күн бұрын
I have seen her police interview. Mad stuff.
@michaelrodman158
Ай бұрын
Thank you for very thorough and engaging research into this story.
@livhaley8621
4 ай бұрын
i think in so many true crime documentaries we see the victims are dehumanized simply because it’s told in a story form meant to make you curious and shock you. the way you tell these stories is absolutely harrowing and makes you see the victims as people you can relate to. i’m 11 minutes in and i’m crying over the videos you inserted and the way you explained these people who died so unfairly.
@jlock8866
4 ай бұрын
Awesome job! I grew up in Burbank in the 80's and 90's and vaguely remember this story because of all the chaos that goes on in L.A. (i.e. the Rodney King beating and subsequent riots, O.J. Simpson trial, Northridge earthquake, etc...)
@isabelmartin3
4 ай бұрын
The fact that you do this all by yourself is crazy. The writing, voiceover, visuals, editing etc is nearly perfect. You deserve sooooo many more watchers
@ilitardo160
4 ай бұрын
Holt shit the reveal was absolutely astonishing. Another banger fucking video I’m so glad I found this channel. The quality is great and the story telling plus visual are astounding. Great job!
@LegendOfMoonDragons
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for personalising the victims. It's easy to forget these are people, not numbers.
@Zachimus97
3 ай бұрын
I know I'm a month or so late to the party here, but I just wanted to thank you so much for putting so much thought, effort, and empathy into making these videos. I genuinely feel like I'm right there in the middle of the crime, the heart of the investigation, the center of the tragedy... You are an incredible storyteller and I really, genuinely hope you keep making these types of videos because they are absolutely phenomenal.
@HuttserGreywolf
4 ай бұрын
You've quickly become one of my FAVORITE documentary channels by far! The editing, the pacing, the way you reveal the criminal, the silhouette renders for the scenes you're talking about. All great work! Also especially love the respect and care you give to the victims, the level of research and dedication! Really look forward to seeing this channel grow!❤
@TP4554
4 ай бұрын
You know when you have a channel in your subscriptions that only produces videos every couple of months but when that dot pops up it's guaranteed to be a really big deal? You are that channel. Superb visual quality, unique and interesting style of narration presented in a movie-length video, not some opinion that ends after 10 minutes. Masterfully done as usual.
@therealJackNap
2 ай бұрын
Better than most Netflix documentaries I’ve ever seen! Great Work!💕
@Nobody.exe50
4 ай бұрын
"Babe wake up Real Horror uploaded a new vid". This video was something else , the quality , the 3d graphics some good tier shit right here
@lavacakez5912
4 ай бұрын
50:00 I LOVE your sense of humor. Great video as always!!
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