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@b2mbalil0lpanda84
4 жыл бұрын
is it me or there's a plane 15:22 coming at high speed from the right side of the screen and crossing the path of these landing planes?? played at low speed x.25, it looks like a fighter jet..
@WDFH
4 жыл бұрын
What is your dog looking at?
@tensevo
4 жыл бұрын
wow , I had no idea about false glideslopes. Good insights. Are these in the sim?
@johnfisher2206
4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't find any video explained this, but can you explain about remaining fuel in the aircraft tank? Is they flushed to empty then they fill new fuel, or just add it as much as needed for the next flight? Thank's in advance!
@philippal8666
4 жыл бұрын
Re supporting the channel; are there T-shirts for females. I can’t wear the thrust comment in South London, guys will get the wrong idea. But I LOVE the graphic.
@philiporeillycork
4 жыл бұрын
Dissipating energy as you cannot destroy energy. Absolutely fantastic videos as found out more about aviation industry watching your channel from anything else. ❤️✈️
@danuttall
4 жыл бұрын
11:00 Excellent points about the stress cone blocking off new stimulus, like alarms, as you put all your attention into fixing your current problem. You can get into a position where you can not handle any new information. Declare GO AROUND! to calm down get stabilized and try again. The aircraft must be stabilized and so must the pilots as well.
@ecclestonsangel
4 жыл бұрын
Petter, if Patxi gets any more stabilized he's going to be comatose, lol!🤣🤣
@steveegbert7429
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, now that's funny!
@cintula82
4 жыл бұрын
i cannot contentrate to the content due to cute putty pilot
@ecclestonsangel
4 жыл бұрын
@@cintula82 Patxi is a fun distraction, though.😁
@KennethAGrimm
4 жыл бұрын
Patxi is contemplating demonstrating an unstabilized descent at the end of the video.
@cyh4031
4 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
@blancolirio
4 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff! Spread the word and hammer it home! Juan.
@mihan2d
3 жыл бұрын
I really like to think that mr. Mentour just prevented an air disaster in the future, with some aspiring/training pilots taking his many advices and then one of them coming handy in a questionable situation they encounter...
@jrgenramdahl123
4 жыл бұрын
"You can not use flaps at any given speed" bruh, I use my flaps at any speed in Microsoft Flight Simulator and it always work for me. I also turn of my engines to save fuel on the way down. Mentour, you got some tricks to learn, my friend
@arfster2
4 жыл бұрын
pro-FSX tip: fly inverted with full flaps and the cabin doors open, gives maximum drag.
@joseyanez2342
4 жыл бұрын
I start my descend with a b737 with gear down, engines-off, full flaps, full speed-break, full rudder input for slip maneuver, and s-turns.
@trazzlotinkerboltz5684
4 жыл бұрын
You guys don't use thrust reversers to help slow down from an altitude drop? Those work great, you don't need to wait for touchdown like the book says.
@indrojitbhattacharya1738
4 жыл бұрын
Jørgen Ramdahl there are limitations in actual world flying. In simulator sittting at home you may do whatever you want. Those tricks doesn’t work in real world.
@daSebi95
4 жыл бұрын
Indrojit Bhattacharya r/woooosh
@jeffsteury4645
4 жыл бұрын
When taking flying lessons, when I was 16, my flight instructor first demonstrated and then repeatedly emphasized the go-around: "The safest maneuver you can ever make".
@Person01234
4 жыл бұрын
On the other hand there are incidents like that Cirrus SR20 crash in houston that killed a few people that happened because the ATC kept telling her to go around many times in favour of getting larger jets down and she ended up fatigued, getting progressively less precise and eventually losing control, stalling and falling on to a parking lot. There's a limit and sometimes going around can become unsafe, especially if you're tired after a long flight and have done it several times already.
@I_SuperHiro_I
Жыл бұрын
I remember…..touch and go, touch and go, touch and go. Made me sick lol.
@JonWMeyer
4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you chose an incident for the case study that makes the point, but wasn't anywhere near as tragic as it could have been. I earned my instrument rating over 35 years ago. Amazing, and encouraging, how much even the vocabulary has changed. I don't recall ever hearing the term "stabilized approach" back then.
@billolgaau
4 жыл бұрын
According to the Australian paper work I have I got my instrument rating in 1906 LONG before I got my Private Pilot Rating (They did fix that unfortunately - Flew Airline for 27 years) :o)
@motomono
4 жыл бұрын
You probably didn't hear about destroying energy either... Did you?
@JonWMeyer
4 жыл бұрын
@@motomono Not in those terms, but understanding energy management was important before my first flight lesson.
@dpg0jod
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos! As a non-aviator, they are endlessly informative. I would consider refraining from saying “destroying energy”. The First Law of Thermodynamics is; Energy can neither be created or destroyed, only altered in form. Keep up the great work.
@mikebrown3179
4 жыл бұрын
Love the case studies! Thanks Mentour!
@peterhall6656
4 жыл бұрын
That was very informative. The behavioural aspects are paramount. I know a 747 pilot in his 60s who has been flying them for the majority of his career (3rd most hours in the company) and he is anal about this stuff. Not stabilized - well we'll just go around for the scenery.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Good man!
@babaoriley124
4 жыл бұрын
I love how, between Mentour Pilot and Blancolirio, I get to learn about things like a stable approach as it is explained in the context of an incident like this.
@shuhraturinov6578
3 жыл бұрын
When taking flying lessons, when I was 16, my flight instructor first demonstrated and then repeatedly emphasized the go-around: "The safest maneuver you can ever make".
@w6wdh
4 жыл бұрын
I was a passenger on an A320 flight into Heathrow when there was a medical emergency over Belgium. It was impressive how quickly the pilots took the plane from cruise altitude to touchdown in Brussels. Perhaps 15 or 20 minutes? I was watching out the window when the pilots began a rapid descent with a sudden reduction in thrust, nose pitch down, and speed brakes out. As no announcement had been made, it was startling. Eventually the pilots did announce that a medical emergency would require landing in Brussels. Once on the ground, someone who was not moving was put in a wheelchair and taken off the plane, and their luggage was offloaded. We proceeded to an uneventful landing at Heathrow. Never did find out what happened to the passenger.
@markpriestley7812
4 жыл бұрын
Well said Peter knowing your configuration thank you
@Rob2
4 жыл бұрын
Patxi takes a very stabilized apporoach!!!
@nathandeane4822
4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on how you choose TO and landing flaps ?
@mickboakes7023
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Always a pleasure to listen to you. Stay safe. Regards. Mick🇬🇧
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
@PilotBlogDenys
4 жыл бұрын
You are always few steps ahead! Great video 👍 Awesome Channel 🤘
@gcewing
4 жыл бұрын
"There's the runway! Quick, we can't let it escape!"
@turbofanlover
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. I'm a bit surprised that those two pilots were not fired and/or sued.
@karthikeyank132010
4 жыл бұрын
Would that have helped anyone? It will only ruin a couple of otherwise good pilots' careers
@coca-colayes1958
4 жыл бұрын
That was the best video you ever done , and I always wonder about go around power and you said there is approach thrust!
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@coca-colayes1958
4 жыл бұрын
Wow I feel privileged you took time to reply me , you know I’ve had many thoughts about this go around and how does the engine spool up as you say and now you explain really well , you will be a great teacher in aviation, Andrew Australia ,
@fignewton1411
4 жыл бұрын
It's easier to explain why you went around, then to explain why you didn't.
@tomasdererste
4 жыл бұрын
There's a stronger version of this saying. It's better to explain why you went around, then for others to find out why you didn't.
@DrNo-fj2sy
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this Statement
@TraditionalAnglican
4 жыл бұрын
Zweistein - Sounds like, “If you’re explaining why you did a “go-around”, you’re alive. If someone is trying to figure out why you didn’t, you’re dead.
@utube4gar
4 жыл бұрын
than
@philippal8666
4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Describing your decisions is easier (& better for everyone) than many people analysing the CVR
@arkadeepkundu4729
4 жыл бұрын
7:36: *Oooh, if you do this you're going to be really really high.* Dutch people, walking out of a "coffee shop": Ya, that's the plan.
@Alexagrigorieff
4 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, in Russian "plan" has also been a slang for certain herb.
@morbidlyobese2944
4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Maybe a video about manual braking would be good, you could talk about the problems hot brakes can cause, how the systems work, along with other things. Thanks for the video!
@r00kiepilot
2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Mentour! Your advice about stabilised approaches helped me improve my rc model plane landings a lot! :)
@RiverWoods111
4 жыл бұрын
Love you copilot sleeping in the background! So cute!
@ChaplainDaveSparks
3 жыл бұрын
Descents ... Oh, the stories I could tell about my student pilot days ... Like the time I was on a student solo on the downwind leg in the pattern for landing and the tower asked me if I could make a short approach. My response? _"I'll try."_ ATC: _"Disregard. I'll call your base."_ (IIRC, the tower was trying to get me in ahead of another aircraft on a straight in approach.) Yes, now I know that my response should have been _"unable"._ I had done a few short approaches with my instructor, but wasn't really proficient, especially since my CFII's preferred method was to perform a slip to lose altitude.
@josephcameron530
Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you.
@SiawR.A
4 жыл бұрын
hello. Esric here!.. Thanks Capt. for a great lecture.. I learnt a ton 🙏
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Glad to hear it!
@flagmichael
4 жыл бұрын
You and Juan Browne (blancolirio channel) have really opened my eyes about the balancing that has to go on to set up an approach and ride it to the runaway. I had thought of it as a simple thing: fly down to the runway, pull power and flare. Now I would say it is much more like a bird perching on a twig. Proud to become a patron (signed up with Juan a couple days ago).
@aussiebloke609
4 жыл бұрын
I think of it as a teenager coming home at 3am in a beat-up jalopy, turning off the engine and coasting in. Can't use the engine or they'll hear you - can't use the brakes or they'll hear them squealing. Have to get the timing just right so you make it into the driveway, but not so fast that you smack into the garage door.
@ACPilot
4 жыл бұрын
It normally is, however sometimes you get a late descent, change of runway, a shortcut from a longer arrival routing etc. leaving you with less miles to lose altitude. You have to manage it with techniques such as speed, speedbrakes, early gear extension, flaps, or simply ask for vectoring to get more miles.
@edwardwerthner7717
4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Brings back memories on my first flight with a new Mooney. Slippery
@richardstalter5461
4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos because you always have awesome explanations and examples, and your presentation speed is spot on. Thank you.
@rangerrick8220
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Liked the reasons given - hot, high or ATC opportunity...so true. You say you will never be faulted for a go-around... but have you heard of airlines penalizing pilots who do (cost recovery) cause the airport charged the airline a go-around fee?
@Paul1958R
4 жыл бұрын
Petter/Mentour, Great video and explanation - thank you! God bless Paul (in MA USA)
@thomasm1964
4 жыл бұрын
One either plans or one doesn’t. “Pre-plan” is a tautology. Fascinating to learn just how much thinking and planning has to go into an approach. I just assumed you would get your shortcut, drop altitude, slow down and pop the aircraft onto the ground. Had no idea there were so many additional factors to consider.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, ice only skimmed the surface of all decisions that needs to be taken yet.
@Olecranine
4 жыл бұрын
@thomasm1964 or rather a morphemic pleonasm
@gregwochlik9233
3 жыл бұрын
That STAR approach chart at minute 4:50 is interesting. It is for the airport (Wroclaw, Poland) where I live. If I assume that you fly to this airport, then I know the airline you work for. As a side note, when approaching Wroclaw on runway 29, you fly directly over my place of residence!
@micheal2312
4 жыл бұрын
Can you get an Air Traffic Control staff to interview , you could learn from there prospective , I think all pilots should. Love the vids Mentour from Dublin
@jeremybarker7577
4 жыл бұрын
What I find really interesting is the result of some calculations I have done. An aircraft flying at 450 knots at FL390 has to lose around 95% of its energy to be flying at 160 knots at 1000 ft. Although I am not a pilot this clearly illustrates the importance of proper descent planning to manage the energy.
@maschwab63
4 жыл бұрын
And idling almost all the way to expend that energy against drag. Climbing uses extra energy to accumulate as potential energy of high altitude.
@judycook1918
4 жыл бұрын
I love your dog.
@psisteak4122
4 жыл бұрын
The case study at the end is AWESOME!!! Very informative, helps to practice the acquired knowledge.
@dafff08
4 жыл бұрын
8:50 Dear Mentour, energy doesn't get destroyed, it transforms in to a different form of energy.
@greggpedder
4 жыл бұрын
You know what he means.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s true
@stargazer7644
4 жыл бұрын
He meant dissipated.
@norcalray7182
4 жыл бұрын
I love the case studies
@robertmizek3315
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m a glider pilot and know that since I don’t have the opportunity for a go-around a stabilized approach is critical for a safe landing.
@onkelbebo3139
4 жыл бұрын
Phyde4ux made a question about flight PIA 8303. I had the same question in another vlog and the answer was no. That crash's most PROBABLE CAUSE was that, when descending with engines idling, the aircraft was most of the time between 200 and 250kts, therefore they were able to deploy the landing gears. The warning signs were for extended flaps in higher speed than the ones determined by Airbus. That's why they did not pay attention to them, they knew what they meant. I believe they had the landing gears down and locked before approaching the runway. Until very close to landing, the flying pilot was calm and had not requested emergency landing due to mechanical problems. When he noticed he would miss the threshold, he called internally "go around" and the co-pilot retracted flaps and landing gears too soon. Due to the stress of steep descending and all the adjustment for the sudden decision, they did not communicated that to ATC immediately. Only after the aircraft had stricken the runway and gained altitude, he communicate problems with landing gear. Notice that the warning sounds stopped when he tells that to ATC. That's because the flaps were retracted by the co-pilot. Due to the speed and very low altitude, without flaps, the aircraft lost lift momentarily until the engines recovered thrust. That's why ATC witnessed an attempt on belly landing and asked the pilot if he was going to do it again. Another crucial point to consider is that a major international airport such as London, Zurich, JFK, Atlanta, ATC would never allow this unstable approach and would never ask if the captain was "comfortable". How that theses appeals to my Mentour Pilot's colleagues?
@michawojnar6394
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! :D Greetings from Wroclaw! :D
@birds_eye_view
4 жыл бұрын
Good video on that topic. Even for smaller airplanes. Just recently I could experience the difference between stabilized and unstabilized approach and the resulting landing. Flying a C152 came in to an airfield, too high too fast. I realized it when I caught myself pushing for the runway threshold. Decided for a goaround, second time went like a charm. A few weeks later came in to another airfield, got into the same situation, but for some reason - maybe feeling overconfident, maybe just simply getthereytis - I decided to push on, to force her down. There was nothing stabilized anymore - I can definitely confirm that stress level is really spiking all the way down. Not helping at all. The airplane felt “uncooperative”. Of course, I was trying to make her do things that did not fit her energy state! Touchdown was barely controlled and just lucky that type of aircraft can take so much. After that I realized that this was a real life “what if” experience. Two high energy approaches, one aborted and the other showed me “what would it had looked like if” I hadn't aborted.
@donolsen6141
4 жыл бұрын
Mentour, thanks for uploading man. Love your videos. So much information that you cant get else where Thank you
@FutureSystem738
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.. Good explanation. PIA in Karachi was NOT an unstable approach, it was a dive bomber’s dive, (with a somewhat similar outcome.)
@SF-li9kh
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't even extend the wheels, nor reported any jam in wheels... How did they even pass flight school?
@fltof2
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the PIA report will say something about Covid-19 being a contributing factor, as in the plane being light, and the crew getting fairly direct routing. A big question will be how they got themselves so high on the approach.
@Alexagrigorieff
4 жыл бұрын
@@fltof2 >how they got themselves so high on the approach hookah?
@jwb2814
4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah it was.
@Person01234
4 жыл бұрын
You probably didn't mean it like this but just a physical point - drag isn't destroying any energy, it's transferring it to the atmosphere (which I assume is what you meant, that you are ridding it from the aircraft).
@aamirmasood2193
4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Exactly what happened in the Pakistan International Airlines crash in Karachi just about a month ago. Airbus A 320 crashed into.a residential neighborhood killing 97 people.
@sorgfaeltig
4 жыл бұрын
Good explanation of the different energies, with some diagrams. But as the relation of potential energy is correctly shown as proportionally dependent to the altitude above ground, the kinetic energy is incorrectly displayed in the diagram at the beginning as being also proportionally dependent to the speed of the aircraft. This is NOT correct. The kinetic energy of the aircraft is proportional to the square of the airspeed. Example 41% more speed means double the kinetic energy. It would be nice to chanhe the diagram to show a curve that is representing that square relation.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@erandhaa8013
4 жыл бұрын
Great content !
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
Landing gear as a speed brake…I think the Corsair extended the mains for use as it’s dive brakes.
@takingthescenicroute1610
4 жыл бұрын
5:08 6:36 it tends to be more like "we can get you in now with [insert shortcut here] or expect 1 hr hold pattern, irate passengers (late and missed all connections, airline forks out heavy for hotel vouchers and 3rd-party rebooks), then a call from the company regarding your career" The kind of external stresses that affect pilot decision making, for the worse.
@Mach7RadioIntercepts
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is the pressure. I've found the only way to handle that is to have a hard attitude of not taking the bait no matter what retaliation may come. LOL, I told the company to "put their mothers and kids on the plane" if they really think it is okay to squeeze the safety margins.
@indrojitbhattacharya1738
4 жыл бұрын
Christopher B. Jack great job Capt
@CMDRSweeper
4 жыл бұрын
The Air Ontario Flight 1363 is a great example of that... As it was said, "There was a lot of other hands on those throttles, pushing those throttles forward."
@takingthescenicroute1610
4 жыл бұрын
@@CMDRSweeper One or two of those hands also interfered with KLM Cpt. van Zanten's throttles in the Tenerife disaster. In that case getting stranded vs. the career impact (losing license) due to exhaustion of duty limits (they were getting close and the diversion had them almost expired by the time the Gran Canaria airport reopened).
@vaclavzeleny5717
4 жыл бұрын
The second graph is wrong. The kinetic energy increases with the square of the velocity.
@mahanehsani1246
4 жыл бұрын
good job! Do more of this please! NTSB's animation for accident have no sound we will be happy to hear some expert comments on them
@orhananildemir4022
4 жыл бұрын
Great instructive video thank you Petter, us as an atpl students are glad to see such videos and hope to see more like this. Greetings from 🇹🇷
@Boodieman72
4 жыл бұрын
In the NTSB video, as soon as either pilots says "go around" you go around, period.
@springbok4015
4 жыл бұрын
Or if you're Canadian Airlines you just ignore ATC until you're on the ground. Or just continue approach to a taxiway.
@justintime5021
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes... The unstabilized approach. That's how I always land in kerbal space program
@MentourPilot
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@sankimalu
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mentour, maybe you have discussed this before, but what is the difference between Ground Speed and Airspeed and which is more relevant to a pilot/air traffic control, et cetera.
@rrh2918
4 жыл бұрын
Love how you say “stabilized “. Stab-a-lized . :-) And love your show. You have good content and good context. I love it when you and Juan get together
@rodneydaub3812
3 жыл бұрын
Mentour Pilot 666K subscribers Gotta make this 667k
@loriley347
4 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe an experienced crew could get it so wrong
@skkho1204
4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Mentour Pilot explaining about half of my flight sim landings...
@jimmym3352
4 жыл бұрын
100% for me on microsoft flight simulator. I haven't quite figured out the landing part.
@plnmech
4 жыл бұрын
The use of speed brakes with flaps extended was ruled as the cause of a United airlines 737-200 crash on approach to Chicago's Midway airport in approximately 1972 and it was the reason the flashing white lite was installed on the top of the center instrument panel. The lights purpose was to warn the crew if they tried to use the speed brakes with the flaps extended and if the light is reported to be malfunctioning it cannot be deferred.
4 жыл бұрын
but what about speed break on the side where flaps didn't come out, possibly bit higher speed ( to avoid stall) should be ok since it's smaller plane
@kennance115
4 жыл бұрын
everything you say makes sense. However there many variables; cross wind tail wind, wind shear. There must be 50 ways to blame the pilots and crew.
4 жыл бұрын
One of the prerecorded voices should be "You arrogant ass you've killed us" perhaps for the windscreen wipers.
@JAllyFarms
4 жыл бұрын
Hi great video I love your info that you provide. I do have a question for ya though. I was coming in for a landing... the pilot was probably on a final because the flaps were all the way extended. However the situation or at least how I felt it was that the airplane was at a 10degree nose down the spoilers were out and it felt/sounded like he had it in reverse thrust. I know it was probably in my mind but it felt like we were just hanging in the sky. Could you explain this? (he probably didn't have reverse thrust on but it sure felt like it.) Also the pilot made a very hard landing I thought the gear was going to fall off. lol
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
2 жыл бұрын
Petter, another beautifully explained Lesson! Sorry if this gets long, but I lost my Dad in 2012, and I've had nobody to "Nerd out" with about Aircraft since then... My Dad and I are both Retired US Air Force... I was an E-6, Loadmaster on the C-5B and C-17, but spent a lot of time in the Cockpit, because of my love of Flight. I'm also a light Civilian Pilot. Those Aircraft didn't have to placate Passengers, just the Laws of Physics! So what you talked about here was very relevant to large Cargo Aircraft. Now my DAD. He was the Hot Pilot! He's flown some incredible and significant Aircraft. I'll just mention two, as they exemplify the point I'm about to make... Starting with the U-2, and finishing with the superlative SR-71 Blackbird!! NEITHER Plane could even READ the Laws of Physics - much less follow them! 😳 The U-2 had the narrowest Terminal Velocity Band at Altitude. But Landing is the discussion here. This Bird was overly Aerodynamically Efficient when Landing. It would frequently "float" up to 7 metres over the Runway, and often had to be FORCED down. Even as slow as 65 knots! The Guys often pulled the Drag Chute - 3 metres above the Runway!!! Now the HABU (SR-71!) She was Aerodynamically Efficient around 1950 KNOTS and above 80,000ft! Landing was a whole different Animal. Kissing the Tarmac BELOW 215 Knots, meant you've already CRASHED! She was the most beautiful Aircraft, but was essentially a large Boulder with 2 giant Engines! The P&W J58 Turbo/Ramjet Engines produced over 135,000lbs of Thrust. .... And most People don't realise that she's BIG too. Roughly the same size as a B737-300, that carried two People! STABILIZED Landing?? Yeah, neither was much good at that. Now one of my Dad's Friends, flew the F-15 Eagle. Those Guys MADE their own Stabilization!! 😂 If he was up to 6000ft above Glide Slope on Final.... HE could descend at 15,000ft per minute, and stick the Landing!! Ain't Fighter Jets COOL? If you read this, thanks for putting up with me. I really admire what you do here on this Channel. I really HOPE that you don't represent a dying breed... Intuitive, Professional, "Seat-Of-The-Pants" Pilots are going away, being replaced with marginally Trained, get everything out of a Book, Computer Monitoring Devices! I've seen on too many occasions, CVR evidence of at least one member of the Crew exclaiming "WHAT'S THE AIRCRAFT DOING NOW?" Gives me a sinking feeling. When I stuff myself into a cramped Airliner - I always HOPE that there's someone like you up at the pointy end.
@TariqAli-ht6ch
4 жыл бұрын
Please make video on possible reason of crash landing of Flight PK8303 which recently crashed in Karachi, Pakistan
@raymondgoubet
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I miss that sound at 24:35.
@Uddysseus
4 жыл бұрын
@Mentour Pilot: During training, do you deliberately continue actions that violate the rules, such as continuing an unstabilzed approach, to show what happens? I guess it's a tradeoff between not wanting to normalize abnormal situations (after all, it may work in the simulator), and showing why it's so dangerous.
@Mach7RadioIntercepts
4 жыл бұрын
Clever instructors can set out plenty of bait in their training scenarios and the pilots will do it willingly.
@topethermohenes7658
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe in a trainer aircraft yes, but never on a commercial flight, that has serious implication not only the student but also the instructor
@theinfiniteflightdeck
3 жыл бұрын
“If it doesn’t look right... go around! It’s better to have to tell someone why you did, than for someone to have to find out why you didn’t”
@johnmoss8230
4 жыл бұрын
Hi petter glad your well. Question have you found out when you'll be getting back on the flight deck???? Love that shirt i'll be ordering 1 soon. Awesome content mentour thank you. 👍👍✈✈🛫🛫🛫🛫
@markorlando4817
4 жыл бұрын
When the FO called for a go around, why would the captain say no? Surly that would be grounds for dismissal.
@RustOnWheels
4 жыл бұрын
Which missile are you talking about? And don’t call me Shirley!
@ahzama.k.6199
4 жыл бұрын
Due to extreme anxiety, a person sometimes starts losing his senses. One of the first sense you lose is hearing as mentioned in the video. You hear your surroundings but your brain doesn't process it to give it a meaning. Pilots are well trained for these stuff but it can happen.
@motomono
4 жыл бұрын
@@ahzama.k.6199 I guess thinking of destroying energy on the approach can be extremely stressful and lead to loose of hearing and vision. I'm anxious every time I think about it too.
@ahzama.k.6199
4 жыл бұрын
@@motomono Well I wouldn't say that leads the pilots to anxiety because that is exactly what they do on a regular day and that is what they are trained for. But yeah in unusual circumstances it can happen. That's why you have SOPs in place and checklists for every failure management. PS. I wouldn't particularly use destroying for energy as professionals deems it not possible. Use dissipate instead and a lot of people won't get mad at you trust me. :)
@janadamczyk8911
4 жыл бұрын
Pilot decision comes first. ATC is advisory only, however to ignore would have to be explained and justified. If ATC say cannot land, but you have no choice, then you will land. As a student pilot that is what I think. Feel free to correct me.
@pfsantos007
4 жыл бұрын
Crazy flying
@chadleukes2978
4 жыл бұрын
Kinetic energy should not have been plotted linearly with respect to speed. That graph destroyed me.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. View it as a logarithmic scale 😂
@urban1201
4 жыл бұрын
It was a logarithmic graph :D
@Astrophysikus
4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot Yeah, log scales make every plot way more exciting! ;-)
@brianpercival1829
4 жыл бұрын
Airline pilots have it easy. Try putting a 208 on floats into a bowl hillside lake surrounded with trees. High angles, and steps down. Bush flying by the seat of your pants and experience.
@sdeparis1
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of the 1% of cases where go-around is NOT the safest thing to do????
@bwagenberg
4 жыл бұрын
When can a first officer assume command if he disagrees with his captain? When can he access the locked revolver?
@billolgaau
4 жыл бұрын
Been there done that I had no intention of running off the runway & heading for the water - once I got the Aircraft airbourne I said " You got it (His name)". No problem after that.
@souocara38able
4 жыл бұрын
When the 1st officer has stronger arms to push the throttle forward And the balls to do it. If you're gonna basically conduct a mutiny you know there's going to be a lot of splainin to do later
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
When the captain is clearly doing something dangerous/unauthorized, after prompting. There is no “locked away revolver” at least not in Europe.
@billolgaau
4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot Remember the case in Tawain years ago when an A300 (I think) crashed & it turned out the Capt tried to land while the F/o tried to overshoot. ( Great crew Management Huh?)
@_.luminosity._
4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot there is a locked away revolver in america
@alanmartin6708
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mentor! PIA airline was crashed a week ago. Can you analyse, and upload a video on it?
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
No, I do t do analyses of ongoing investigations, especially on aircraft types I do not fly myself. I had a discussion with Juan from the Blancolirio channel last week. Check that out.
@hardopinions
4 жыл бұрын
Kinetic Energy is a square of the speed. It's not linear with speed like on the graph. Potential Energy is linear, so your graph there is correct.
@semide5082
4 жыл бұрын
Can you make q video about the future changes in airbtraffic manegemente like RPN ar approuchs that will be more used and continuos descend
@Phyde4ux
4 жыл бұрын
Funny how you're careful not to mention PIA flight 8303, but as the video goes on it becomes clear this is the incident you're talking about. Particularly when you said, "Why didn't they hear the warnings?", it's obvious what you're referring to. My question regarding the A320 is: If you engage the landing gear above 260 kts, it will not go down, but if the plane subsequently drops below 260 kts, does the landing gear automatically go down or do you have to sycle the gear a second time?
@onkelbebo3139
4 жыл бұрын
I had the same question. I just wrote a comment above about it.
@howelljaynes1292
4 жыл бұрын
I have trouble, as an american english speaking person, understanding your accent when you speak quickly. I do have experience with non-US accents, having lived 9 years in the Australian outback, so I'm not completelh parochial. Thanks. Enjoy your discussions. e 80
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Check out our English language course on the APC website if you feel like improving! Best of luck my friend www.theairlinepilotclub.com
@EldarKhaitov
4 жыл бұрын
If a captain says that continue landing and the FO does not agree, what should he do? On the one hand, he should take control to save lives, on the other captain may know better the situation and the FO could lead an aircraft to catastrophe
@RuiPlaneSpotter
4 жыл бұрын
Thank You my friend!
@jamesbarca7229
4 жыл бұрын
8:24..."In order to destroy energy, you need to add a drag". As Einstein said, “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.” In this case you would be changing it from kinetic to heat energy.
@Merilix2
3 жыл бұрын
I think in the study case they also had a massive CRM issue. The actual pilot wanted to go around but the captain refused and took over controls. So to me it looks like the untrained pilot had much more situation awarenes than the experienced captain
@bso_av
4 жыл бұрын
Unstablelised approach always happened to me at flight sims
@ryan_n05
4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, passenger flights were still profitable.
@slartybarfastb3648
4 жыл бұрын
Last time I read a "this early" comment as good as yours, wearing masks in public was illegal.
@Matt_10203
4 жыл бұрын
@@slartybarfastb3648 where do you live where wearing a mask was illegal?
@On-Our-Radar-24News
4 жыл бұрын
Petra, I know you don't want to talk about it, however, PIA 8303 is already proving to be one of the worst pilot error accidents in history. With all the info we already know, this flight crew was egregious in their actions and in my opinion should be charged with homicide, posthumously! If one of my family members were on that flight, I would own Pakistan International Airlines, only after I own the airline, we are changing the name, hiring Petra as our Chief Pilot.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
We have to wait and see what all the details are before we pass judgement. There are rarely only ONE factor in play.
@DipanGhosh
4 жыл бұрын
Slight correction of terms here: Instead of saying "destroying" energy, it would be better to say "getting rid of" energy, or "dissipating" energy. I know what you mean, but the wording can be improved slightly.
@onkelbebo3139
4 жыл бұрын
Your remark is well taken and as I speak English as a second language I like "dissipating" better because in my language we would say "dissipar energia"
@skootty7151
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always. Though i just wanna point out that the relationship between kinetic energy and velocity is exponential, not linear. The graph that you used demonstrate a linear relationship. It's KE= (mv^2)/2. Otherwise awesome video
@Alexagrigorieff
4 жыл бұрын
Exponential doesn't mean what you think it means. The relationship between kinetic energy and velocity is quadratic.
@ifpstopmotions9720
4 жыл бұрын
There is one incident where the pilots got distracted and broke their tail on the landing, it happened in curitiba
@nativeafroeurasian
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the comparison: I sometimes play an approach control simulator, where I most often let them fly the STAR routs, but I kinda guid them down from 15 000 feet to 2 000 feet. How does ATC give the altitudes in reality?
@steverylands4001
4 жыл бұрын
Consistent with your policies I am not going to speculate on the causes of the PIA crash. However what is clear is that rushing and hoping can cause disaster. As Blancolirio said the other day, there is plenty of fuel, plenty of time, and usually options. Go around, take your time and review your options.
@BerndFelsche
4 жыл бұрын
Gimli glider incident ... Don't try this at home kids ... Side-slip to drop rapidly without gain in forward airspeed.
@MentourPilot
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that can be done if the engines are already flamed out. If not, you can get into some real problems
@nhwilkinosn
4 жыл бұрын
What, passengers don't like the feel of forward slips?
@MegaLol2xd
2 ай бұрын
8:24 you can't "destroy" energy xD you can convert it, into heat for example.
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