Julian as an ex magistrate i would i would find in your favour,the police had no right to get involved at the point they did, also it’s a false arrest claiming that you were making off without paying when you clearly wasn’t, you can also add assault by the police officer. You need to take it to court if only to get your details removed and put in a claim for compensation.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your constructive comment. The documents are being submitted this week. What do you think about the use of these coins in this manner?
@anthonyfernwood8093
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 As you have proof that these coins are legal tender you have every right to use them the only problem you have is getting businesses to accept them, (you couldn’t turn up with a bucket full of 1ps to pay for petrol even though they are legal tender, there is a limit). If you tried to use them in a shop they could refuse to sell you the item therefore no sale but in a petrol station you already have the petrol in the car so they can’t take it back, You would probably be advised to check first. Good Luck.
@Aidankiwi
3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyfernwood8093 Flawed argument there. Copper coinage is only legal tender in amounts up to 20p. The coin being offered on this occasion was legal tender. As payment was offered with legal tender and declined by the vendor it was a civil matter of an alleged debt & not a criminal matter. Therefore the arrest was unlawful. Indeed the act by the Police Officer of unlawfully threatening arrest constitutes an assault. Physically touching him to effect the unlawful arrest is an act of battery. Furthermore the Officer is potentially guilty of an offence under Sect 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015
@anthonyfernwood8093
3 жыл бұрын
@@Aidankiwi Sorry but where is my comment flawed, i said there was a limit on coinage , i also said if his coin was legal tender he had every right to use it , also said it was a false arrest , also said you could add assault by the police officer, please read all the comments.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@Aidankiwi I wasn't using copper coinage. You are correct though that there are limits. I did maximise the number of coins at Tesco once by obtaining from the post office 20p of 1p, 20p of 2p, £5 of 5p, £5 of 10p, £10 of 20p, £10 of 50p and the rest in £1 coins which are unlimited. Then filled up with 100 litres of fuel and went to the kiosk to pay. They phoned the police who attended and correctly told them it wasn't a police matter. It was in response to them calling the police because the £1 coins i was paying with on a previous occasion were tarnished. See this link where there is s photo of the tarnished coins I'd found metal detecting. www.chards.co.uk/blog/can-i-spend-commemorative-coins-in-shops/476
@fordcapri6288
3 жыл бұрын
You should make a civil claim for the false arrest
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
I will be.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@Jon Jones He claims that he has a reasonable suspicion that an offence is about to be commited. You can see his argument in the video. He thinks I'm going to make off without payment whilst refusing to allow me to make payment with a coin that The Queen has proclaimed to be legal tender for PAYMENT throughout our United Kingdom. I've not yet put in a foi request but my solicitor is going to be reviewing the case shortly before deciding if we have a case.
@adamwilson2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 His suspicion of the offence about to be committed could have been alievated if he was impartial and took on board your evidence that you had an email from head office, he had already formed a biased opinion of the suspected offence, of which in effect he made himself party to that alleged offence as he aided your 'making off' as it were from the scene as you. If they wanted to prosecute you it would have been funny to call him as an accessory to the alleged crime. In law there has to be a victim also, without a living victim there is no crime CORP(Dead)orations are not living entities and technically crimes cannot be committed against them. You'd have to have a living representative of the company to accept reverse liability for any civil dispute against you. As far as police interactions he at least had a consensual conversation with yourself prior, I think as a moral course of action he may have accepted you leaving your name with Tesco outside of the legal document they wanted you to sign. You wouldn't have any legal obligation to as far as I'm aware, but morally to resolve the dispute in a civil court if you gave your details and said you're happy for them to take civil action that may have been an option I didn't see tabled - but you were right not to be forced to give details on a failure to pay document. Also I hate that he grabbed(assaulted) you to enact an arrest as you both had been talking reasonably prior he could have asked if you were willing to comply with an arrest - I fear they are trained to make physical contact as a means of arrest and I think this is a deeper problem our police constables face (always make sure they are constables on their oath as a police officer is a fictional character and legally distinct from a police constable). On a personal note well done for following through with this very interesting topic and you conducted yourself very well.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@adamwilson2117 good comment thank you.
@darrenwarmington7037
3 жыл бұрын
@Bell Gardner as well as battery and false imprisonment
@thehighwaycowboy2822
3 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely laugh my bo#£ocks off if they tried prosecuting me for this! I would love to argue this out with a judge. Her Majesty's Court prosecuting for spending Her Majesty's Legal Tender😂🤣💰
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It would be amusing.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbyford7614 Courts won't accept legal tender as they do not have a cash office.
@suzyqualcast6269
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 % they used to at the old/new Chesterfield Magistrates.
@mogendo
3 жыл бұрын
The real crime committed at the fuel station is the taxes applied
@marli288
3 жыл бұрын
@mugendo p, So So True its a blood LIBERTY!! WELL SAID
@brigittefavron3362
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol
@rosanneennis725
3 жыл бұрын
And the price of Freddos extortion
@cypeman8037
3 жыл бұрын
It would appear you were arrested because the officer didn’t know, not because of a crime being committed.
@simontuffs4106
3 жыл бұрын
The officer didn't know what??? That the officer was another petty minded jealous angry feckin Twat.
@colonelcustard.9883
3 жыл бұрын
God help us all if the police start arresting people when the police don't know something.
@sweddybob8864
3 жыл бұрын
I will never cease to be amazed how much effort the police will put into protecting their egos.
@nicksawyer1533
2 жыл бұрын
So true
@Ash-do2pv
2 жыл бұрын
Yet you are not amazed at the the length this guy goes to "harass" ordinary over stressed wage earners (some half englished) in order to prove a point which honestly should be aimed at the issuing authority. If a dealer buys £40000 Mercedes (sold as a vehicle that can legally be used in UK) then tries to "offer" them in exchange for house and the agent doesn't want to accept his Mercedes he has no right to slander or blow it up into a major issue. Also the way he goes about ie "grabbing" "pinching" "storing" items before trying to pay with unacceptable (knowingly) "gold bricks" is morally wrong.
@philliplester1741
Жыл бұрын
@@Ash-do2pv Er… you seem to have missed the memo about Legal Tender.
@88adamoneill
3 жыл бұрын
Take it all the way - it's a matter of principle.
@lynnperry555
3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you just pay like normal ppl? Sorry for not agreeing but isn’t there more to life than how you pay? loyal to the queen? lol just Chuck a tenna n pay, it can’t be worth the bad headache.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lynn. I'll make a video of paying with a debit card for people who would prefer to see me pay like normal people do. Its not the only thing I do with my life and I don't get a head ache. Also I'm not normal. I'm me. Thankyou for your concern.
@DavidWelchteamiron
3 жыл бұрын
File a claim against them and sue them into oblivion.
@knight3001
3 жыл бұрын
Well done to sticking by your principles. I think the corporations would be hesitant to test it in court as the risk of you winning would generate press and a precedent of having to accept these coins more generally. Unfortunately as you say, the police seem far from impartial. Their default position seems to be to side with the corporations and complainants against ordinary members of the public whose rights they swore an oath to uphold.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Good comment, I agree. 👍
@JohnSmith-vy4lh
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 The bank can not refuse a non commercial payment, they can refuse a commercial payment however. You are very lucky because they have just given you 9 grand. An offer of payment is as good as paying. In actual fact all loans and mortgages are illegal executed under statutory and common law. Banks do not lend any of their own money. The loan amount was created by the loan agreement which was turned into a promissory note and typed into existence on your account. Michael O'Bernicia after a nine year battle with the bank of Scotland proved all his family trust mortgages were void and had 2.5 million of mortgages wiped by the land registry. thebernician.net
@terrystephens1102
3 жыл бұрын
I would be taking the letter you received from the police to the relevant ombudsman in relation to their expressed belief that you had committed a crime when clearly you hadn’t.
@JG-fg1ye
3 жыл бұрын
Lol this series is brilliant, genuinely interesting and hopefully we can all get down to the heart of the matter and have it resolved :) Please Subject Access Request and upload the police body cam footage of your arrests
@jbserengeti
3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that you would talk more about the fact that she sold your details.
@joanstorer6370
Жыл бұрын
joseph Bingham what do you mean sold his details?
@jbserengeti
3 жыл бұрын
you were arrested because you questioned her about selling your details. she disappeared too quick after that.
@cypeman8037
3 жыл бұрын
“There’ll be note on the police computer saying it’s a civil matter” How naive.
@erikjohansen1873
3 жыл бұрын
Send a note to the Queen asking what you should do with these coins.
@dougtrapp8872
3 жыл бұрын
I was driving across the country several years age, visiting the smaller towns off of the main highways "seeing the sights" so to speak. Stopped at a gas station cafe and filled up my tank to the tune of $40 and change, went to the cashier to pay for the fuel along with candy and sodas. The total was $48.75. I gave the cashier a $50.00 bill and the idiot refused the accept the money, pointing to a sign that said they did not accept any bill larger than a $20.00. My luck was the owner lived above the business and when contacted explained that the sign was to avoid having a large amount of change being given out for a small purchase. He accepted the $50 bill and educated the clerk.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to planet Earth..
@richardbosson8597
3 жыл бұрын
If you went into a petrol station and bought £100 of petrol and came with a wheelbarrow full of 1 and 2 pence coins they are within their rights to refuse to accept that
@colinambler7964
3 жыл бұрын
Not guilty ,sue that cop for kidnapping
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
I bet the Queen would NOT have been challanged if she paid by these coins, ....or if she drove of without paying.
@johnhodgson3545
3 жыл бұрын
Well done, its important to test and push what the the actual rules are . Society are bound by rules and regulations but authorities cant bend or choose how or when they apply them . 👍
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou. This is partly the reason I do it. If we don't make a stand for our rights we will end up in a worse place, like China.
@danjames5552
3 жыл бұрын
Did you know that stamps count as legal tender !!! I read it somewhere (twice over the years )
@joanstorer6370
Жыл бұрын
Now that's one for you to do julian.
@trudib972
3 жыл бұрын
You are an intriguing out of the box type person. Glad the algorithm brought me across your endeavours. The contract we have/think we have with government interests me. I like that you are so calm and respectful when standing your ground.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@timwhale9434
3 жыл бұрын
When the illogicality of the arresting officers and officers who side with the commercial establishments is tested with the simple logic that any such establishment could suddenly decide, e.g. to not accept £5 notes on Mondays, £10 notes on Tuesdays, and then change again the next week, etc. There is nothing stopping them doing this when the same logic is applied. The onus is on the establishment to verify if tendered forms of payment are legitimate. The main reason for them not accepting high denomination notes is the risk of counterfeit notes, which is why the B of E supports them. Clearly, the numbskull officers believe everyone should jump through the imposed normal hoops of society like good little people and failure to do so will incur their subjective wrath, irrespective set laws. When I buy something with a £10 note, or higher, the cashier checks the validity of the note in a reader. When they give me my change back I ask the cashier to put the note(s) through the same reader. The look on their face is precious. I smile at them and say "Your employer did not trust me so why should I trust your employer?". If they get nasty, then I examine every coin also.
@davehooter1623
3 жыл бұрын
Royal Mint missold these in the first place. I believe a class action against RM would be a good idea.
@jameswalker2584
3 жыл бұрын
From my uninformed perspective sounds like the policemsn made a mistake( in law) and they are trying to defect all the fault on to you ( unfairly and with a malingering stench of disdain for a knowledgeable pleasant) I listened to the interview with the officer. It was quite odd in my view and worthy of deeper study. I believe I detected something of the methodology used by police to get you to paint your self as having bad intentions and therefore you are at fault. He purposely stayed away from anything that could resolve the matter in clear and logical terms and wanted to trap you using some other frivolous murky suggestions. That interview could be a good case study for spotting police intentions Any way I think you had the best defense possible. The truth! Good work!
@sandydobbie1255
3 жыл бұрын
Keep going they have created this problem themselves they have to come up with a solution for this problem !!! Surely there is law regarding cash payments ??? Great video !!!
@natmol1595
3 жыл бұрын
The best of luck with your quest and ironing this one out 👍
@danbradbury1183
3 жыл бұрын
Hi there quite fascinating I’m interested in common laws etc and been looking at Tracy of the family Blackwell and her struggles for justice on her sons death I’m also finding it staggering how covid fines are being implemented by police etc 🤗 will sub you and keep watching thank you
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your support.
@dutchyno.1767
3 жыл бұрын
Please update on all outcomes. Very interesting 👍
@no.7593
3 жыл бұрын
Tried to pay with a genuine £50 note in Asda five years ago and it was like an emergency situation, the manager was called, everyone held up etc.
@rajeshmangosteen7613
3 жыл бұрын
When a £2 pen could have solved all their issues and concerns
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
I bet they took the fiat Contactless payment quick enough.
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
When I worked at Sainsburys many moons ago, we had a family pay with seven £50 notes, as normal process we checked them, It passed Sainsburys tests, but that day we had access to a Llyods bank note checker machine - it failed, wondering why it failed - we found the watermark was Lisa Simpson. Other than that they looked like genuine in everyway, police was called and one of the family was arrested at the till, the customer then paid by card. Next customer said will my money be ok ? Shops won't take them as the gangsters will put more resources in to making fakes of higher notes, as the rewards are more. BoE have been collecting in the £50 note and taking them out of circulatiom, same for BoE rare £100 note (not the Scottish one). so note - fake new plastic £5 bank notes where out a month before official release. It was later found out a die was stolen from the official factory process. Inside job.
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
I also worked for another company who dealt in alot of one pound coins. The reason the one pound coin was changed shape, was most one pound coins in circulatiom where good fakes and could not be sorted and refused by vending machines or industrial coin counters. I am not talking about the lead / metal gold painted ones. Hence why new coins are bimetal with a alloy signiture recipe.
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
@@rajeshmangosteen7613 UV pens don't work, to get a fake note to pass this test, just wash the note in powder washing powder.
@annoyingbstard9407
3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you just go to the Royal Mint website where it quite clearly states that their commemorative coins are collector's items and are not in general circulation, therefore will not be accepted in shops and banks. I genuinely don't understand how you can even pretend to not understand this.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't say that. It says they are UNLIKELY to be accepted. Why would you have to exaggerate your point? The Queen said they are legal tender for PAYMENT throughout our United Kingdom. 🐑 🐖
@annoyingbstard9407
3 жыл бұрын
Julian Chamberlain Spoke to her did you? I don't know if you're displaying idiocy or just lying and frankly I don't care anymore. There are plenty like you in the world and they all seem compelled to make inane KZitem videos.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@annoyingbstard9407 well go and find something else to watch you moron.
@annoyingbstard9407
3 жыл бұрын
Julian Chamberlain Ooooh! So hurtful. I wonder if you'll delete this thread rather than let the divs supporting you see what a phoney you are.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@annoyingbstard9407 I don't delete comment's
@nobleone2281
3 жыл бұрын
One day these business gone wish they accepted those coins instead of printed currency.
@rogerthomas8977
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian. I really enjoyed your podcast. My wife has several £5 commerative coins purchased from Barclays and was told at the time of purchase that it was a no lose situation as they were legal tender and could be exchanged at Barclays for the face value at any time. However, when she tried that Barclays refused to exchange them for currency. With these continuing scams the banks and the mint should be arrested for blatant dishonesty.
@byMRTNjournals
Жыл бұрын
The bank's and the mint are entirely separate institutions. It's societies job to not give all the power to the banks and this little topic helps to underline how gargantuan the problem is.
@nbandpinportugal
3 жыл бұрын
If the Royal Mint clearly states that the coins are legal tender and that is part of their goods description then subsequently advises banks and shops not to accept them that must be a false declaration and subject to prosecution.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Treason I think. Its directly contradicting and undermining the Queens proclamation that they are for payment throughout our United Kingdom
@garrydeglan754
3 жыл бұрын
I am actually saddened by this channel as it highlights the stupidity and the quality of the British Police Force in general. This is a service we all pay for and the amount of time spent on this is rediculouse. Whilst all this was going on the real criminals are running wild. Shocking folks as we are all paying for this incompetence.
@AbsoluteAudits
3 жыл бұрын
The reason most cameras won’t record for longer than 10 minutes (so I heard from a family friend) is to combat piracy, as it stops people recording films and shows, as they have to keep stopping and starting, therefore eliminating any chance of being discreet.
@wertiaaudit5746
3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. It's because of patent ligitation lawsuits against smaller camera distribution due to existing patents which have passed since 2005. Phone typical Cameras stop recording at 30 minutes and restart to make sure files aren't corrupted if the phone dies mid recording . Smaller cameras like bodycams might go to 5 minutes and start a new file and continue recording. It's all software
@andymcnaughton7745
3 жыл бұрын
No, it’s because any longer than 32 mins shooting time and it’s classed as a video camera not a stills camera👍
@user-sg1ku5hu5d
3 жыл бұрын
Your arrest was unlawful and you really need to pursue redress/compensation. From the moment you offer legal tender, you are relieved from your debt and are free to go on your way. In any event, while you remained at the petrol-station the only possible charge the police could pursue would be attempted fraud, if they believed the coins were not legal tender.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of taking civil action against them for this incident. I will update the channel with progress as it happens. Its also my understanding that rejection of legal tender negates the debt but I'm not trying to get out of paying. In hindsight and from now on, I will make sure they retain possession of the coin. Thanks for your comments 🙂
@guy4469
3 жыл бұрын
my mum was driving her range rover , with her cogies in the back . and her head scarf on she was doing a funny wave . .Her MOT had just ran out . The police man kept bowing ,and the police women kept curtseing . My mum said my husband has just passed away im ,not interested in my mot . They let her go .
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@KennethMcInnes1954
3 жыл бұрын
I once went into M&S GT Yarmouth with a £100 note for three sandwiches and cans of juice. Eventually they paid me the change around £90+ but we're very angry. Seems the checkout lady had never seen a £100 note before.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Neither have I. Are they Scottish?
@gpscrapper7028
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work and determination Hopefully you will get what you want to achieve Good bless you and take care
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your kind words.
@wolvoman1
3 жыл бұрын
A bit far fetched but a bit of fun, For all those with the negative comments, this scenario you have one £20 note and you fill up with fuel to that amount, unfortunately its raining, you accidentally drop the note, it gets wet and tears as you pick it up, you go to pay for the fuel but the cashier refuses to accept the note. What would you do, how would you react?
@CopBlockHotSprings
3 жыл бұрын
FOR CREDIT CARD DEBT: "I'll pay whatever I owe..." Whose account is it? Theirs or yours?
@spakkajack
3 жыл бұрын
you will get around 7 thousand if you sue. it wont even get to court
@cheesevampire110123
3 жыл бұрын
In regards to tesco not wanting to prosicute you: i work for tesco in maintenance, to be honest i think their just lazy, cant be bothered with the trouble or have a pot of money sat aside that they expect to be used for situations like this. A few months ago at my store we had someone drive a work trailer into the underground carpark, hit the "you must be this high to enter" sign (and carries on), hit and break a refrigerant gas line (causing multiple chillers to go down for around 2 weeks) and hit multiple flourecent bulbs, then drive off. The mall (its a shared carpark) got his details and went after him and actually made a claim against his insurance. I contacted my manager to report the incident and let them know the driver has been identified but they just wernt bothered in the slightest to do anything about it. Not too sure why but my guess is probally the legal fees of the many cases that people would win vs the the money they would get from the cases they win would not put them in the profit at the end of the day. Just my two cents
@quevicular
3 жыл бұрын
Cops know they are wrong that's why they sent you that letter
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
8:15 I have been to petrol stations in England that you have to pay first before they switch on the pump. Also I have seen more at pumps, ( especially at Tescos), they are card only, with card authorisation with pin (not contactless) at pump first, then then it say upto £99 value, you type in how much you want, and it cuts off at that amount. No kisok payment, no cash payments, no contactless.
@alfsmith4936
3 жыл бұрын
When you use the £99 max pumps, you only need £1 in the bank to get the £99.. You will get charged the full amount when you have it but it's good to know for many, just before payday.
@axiomcurbcommunity
3 жыл бұрын
Now it’s time you do the cop for section 26 criminal justice and courts act 2015! Please claim for unlawful arrest and take this further with Tesco! Do not stop until these people realise true intrinsic values in forms of precious metals trumps their shitty Fed notes all day long! Tell them the people have cottoned on! Game is over!
@TheBILLANDERSON
3 жыл бұрын
section 26 (7) (c) = 14 years in prison www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/2/section/26/enacted
@johng310
3 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the answers in the next video & did you make a complaint about that police women giving your details to the petrol station
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@colonialclive
3 жыл бұрын
A simple PC. That is it in a nut shell!
@wsurfa
3 жыл бұрын
Pay your council tax partially with it - most councils have a cash payment desk for settlement.
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
Our Council closed the cash desk years ago, they now will only take payments via Capita and you pay Capita.
@marli288
3 жыл бұрын
Also Julian im thinking you should only be charged interest by the bank "up to" the point you tried to settle the said amount with "the Mint's very Own coin" thus not refusing to settle the outstanding.. see it through dude 😊😊😎
@wildsod
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update Julian, I'm very intrested in the outcome of this.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned as I'll update every detail.
@teddyabearo1066
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 Mad Respect from Stateside! You're a class act, always respectful and level-headed! 🤟🏽🐻
@eror151
2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to mention that you've inspired me to test out the same here in Norway, we have a 200 NOK sterling silver coin with 1/2 oz silver. This is basically the equivalent of a 20£ coin with 15£ worth of silver in it. So far I've bought a bike with it and a pizza and soda. They don't make me rich, quite to the contrary because they generally cost me 250 NOK. However the two people I've payed reacted very pleasantly surprised, they assumed it basically was more valuable (which is true) so they went along with it. Thinking of buying out my local dealer of all of them to see if i can get a good price + get enough to se some adverse reactions. Restaurantes is what i see as the more realistic target as you can't fill up at a petrol station here before you've payed. I'll keep you posted :)
@julianchamberlain5399
2 жыл бұрын
If you film it, I'd be very interested to publish it on my KZitem channel. 👍
@DXmYb
2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to watch it too. Julian inspired me to do the same, I've a strong interest in financial systems and want to 'protest in favour of sound money' as he put it.
@markwilliams9964
Жыл бұрын
🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️TURN IT IN NORWAY NOT ANOTHER ONE 🤪EROR151 DONT VIDEO IT YOU FORIN TRAMP STAY IN NORWAY 🇳🇴 AND BUM MOUNTAIN SHEEP 🐑🤪
@thelastpilot4582
2 жыл бұрын
Its silly people like you going around wasting peoples time with your childish pranks that waste tax payers money.
@Nighttrunker
3 жыл бұрын
We’re do you get the coins from I want to try this my self
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
You can get them on ebay. Search "100 pound coin" etc.
@grahamfaulkner5170
3 жыл бұрын
The flip side to this coin, is that this battle is between you and Tesco. Be the adult. Pay with an alternative method and be on your way. Stop being ridiculous by making mountains out of mole hills.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
"The flip side of this coin".. I see what you did there. Very good.
@RonSeymour1
3 жыл бұрын
A point to note is that paying above a specified amount in coin denominations is not legal tender. In other words, you can't pay £20 in 1p's but higher values are OK. Coins are legal tender throughout the United Kingdom for the following amount: £100 - for any amount £50 - for any amount £20 - for any amount £5 (Crown) - for any amount £2 - for any amount £1 - for any amount 50p - for any amount not exceeding £10 25p (Crown) - for any amount not exceeding £10 20p - for any amount not exceeding £10 10p - for any amount not exceeding £5 5p - for any amount not exceeding £5 2p - for any amount not exceeding 20p 1p - for any amount not exceeding 20p
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron. So the £100, £50 & £20 coins are legal tender for payment throughout our United Kingdom in any amount according to the Queen and the Royal Mint.
@RonSeymour1
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 This should cover it although it does say that they may not be accepted. In practice this means that although the silver UK coins we produce in denominations of £5, £20, £50 and £100 are approved as legal tender, they have been designed as limited edition collectables or gifts and will not be entering general circulation. As such, UK shops and banks are unlikely to accept them. www.royalmint.com/aboutus/policies-and-guidelines/legal-tender-guidelines
@terrybull1043
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your quest you are 100% right on what you are saying 👍👍👍
@colonialclive
3 жыл бұрын
Scottish notes are not legal tender in Britain, it’s a courtesy agreement that they can be used. Before your start saying blah blah blah look it up!
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
I agree Scottish notes are not legal tender. Tesco do not have to accept them in payment of diesel or petrol but they are obliged to accept legal tender including these coins.
@garethflower3403
3 жыл бұрын
Scotland is in Britain!
@garethflower3403
3 жыл бұрын
Just checked the legal position. Scottish notes are legal currency' i.e. approved by the UK government. However. ' Legal tender' is a different thing (who knew). No notes. Scots or English, are considered 'legal tender' in Scotland. Both however, are ' legal currency'. Confused? Yep, me too
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@garethflower3403 It means if I owe someone money in England, they could not successfully sue me for not paying if I offered full payment in legal tender and they refused, but they could successfully sue me if I offered full payment in Scottish notes and refused. Hence the purpose of my legal tender disputes at the petrol station.
@garethflower3403
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 if they could be bothered. I am as confused as you that the Police still believe you commited an offence in this cas. Clearly the CPS don't. You offered to pay. They refused. You didn't make off, you were removed by force. And when you returned the next day they still refused to accept payment. Just as well there are no murderers, burgers, fraudsters etc anymore, or our underfunded and overstretched police service wouldn't have had the time for this charade
@Mr4fksake
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you are taking steps to sue this tyrant of a so called police officer, they should uphold the law that they have sworn to, having read most of these comments some of them got me thinking ( and that's something that doesn't happen on many occasions) but some mentioned that if or when we go to a cashless society, so technically we are not dealing with money but purely numbers, so do taxes / taxation then become null and void as there would be no legal tender to imply taxation on
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Its quite an interesting conundrum ist it.
@paulbraine674
3 жыл бұрын
The copper was polite but also wrong You must sue the police to get them off their high horses
@nigeats65
3 жыл бұрын
According to the Royal Mint website and referring back to your vid at Tesco where you were declined paying for the fuel with a £100 coin it does state the following: What does legal tender mean?....Most people think it means the shop has to accept the payment form. But that’s not the case. A shop owner can choose what payment they accept. If you want to pay for a pack of gum with a £50 note, it’s perfectly legal to turn you down. Likewise for all other banknotes, it’s a matter of discretion. If your local corner shop decided to only accept payments in Pokémon cards that would be within their right too. But they’d probably lose customers. Legal tender has a narrow technical meaning which has no use in everyday life. It means that if you offer to fully pay off a debt to someone in legal tender, they can’t sue you for failing to repay. But you were totally correct according to the Royal Mint website in that 1p & 2p coins up to 20pence is "legal tender" whereas the 'shop assistant' at Tesco stated it was their policy to accept up to £1.00 in 1p & 2p coinage. But keep it going as it is interesting to see your trials and exercising in paying for goods and services quite legitimately. And as for that 'arrest' at Exeter POLICE Station, I hope you sue.....!
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Have you read the pinned comment by John Scott QC on part 2 of the arrest video? I think you'd find it interesting.
@gurglejug627
3 жыл бұрын
Police ought to have "reasonable grounds" to suspect an offence has been committed, not a vague 'might have'. But yeah, UK police - arrest first, ask questions later, and spend time dressing up instead of learning the law and enforcing it according to their mandate.
@davidgordon1106
3 жыл бұрын
From the Royal Mint website "Please note that whilst these coins are legal tender, they are not designed for general circulation, so banks and shops are unlikely to accept the coins. The Royal Mint cannot accept returns of such coins outside of the 14 days return policy." So yes, while these coins are legal tender, you are just making trouble for yourself by doing this. Really with all the problems going on in the UK right now, is this really the best use of your time?
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Its not like its a full time job. Standing up for my rights is making a stand for everyone's rights which is a very worthwhile endeavour.
@frankclough380
3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to get involved in altercations with the police then please get someone to represent you as you are not up the task yourself, you are much to prone to irrelevant ramblings. Any half competent cop could easily tie you up in knots.
@BeardGang09
3 жыл бұрын
In practice this means that although the silver UK coins we produce in denominations of £5, £20, £50 and £100 are approved as legal tender, they have been designed as limited edition collectables or gifts and will not be entering general circulation. ... The amounts for legal tender are stated below.
@HoofHearted801
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting situation. And good for you to push forward with it. Here in Canada we have a grocery store, Nature's Pickins, that had a sign at the entry which states they do not accept any cash, credit cards only. I saw it on the way out. They said it was a result of handling money which could be affected with the Chyna virus. They used gloves to wipe credit cards. I wondered if that was a legal position to take at the time but simply left my purchase with them and never returned to that store. I believe our currency says, "pay to the bearer on demand" and felt that refusing to accept it may be an act of treason against the Country's monetary system, intending to ultimately bring it down to the control of others. But I have not returned to press the matter.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Can you not get them to cut up cheese, meats and bag up bread weigh lots of stuff and then offer cash?
@HoofHearted801
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 That's exactly what I did unknowingly. They wouldn't take cash so I left it with the cashier and they could deal with it however they wanted. I only had cash with me and wasn't about to make two trips b/c of their ignorance
@rosanneennis725
3 жыл бұрын
If its tender or not if the business owner has the right to refuse, social experiment or just being awkward mmm
@malgf4145
3 жыл бұрын
They can refuse to sell you goods, but how do they take back the fuel ?
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@malgf4145 Indeed. From what I understand it becomes mine as it is measured into the tank.
@pqrstzxerty1296
3 жыл бұрын
7:00 Some cafes will only take bitcoin for transactions now. Even due to covid lockdowns, only take contactless, um law says you don't have to have a bank account and the law says you can't refuse cash of the Country ie Sterling GBP.
@onlydawid
3 жыл бұрын
You are wrong, legal tender means if you have a court awarded debt against you if someone tries to settle and they're paying in the legal tender you cannot refuse it. Supermarkets or any private business can refuse £5 notes if they like, nothing you can do about it
@danjames5552
3 жыл бұрын
And those £100 pound coins are legal tender on the channel islands, I found that put when I had some, and when they come out yhe only place it was legal tender
@georgelumb2179
3 жыл бұрын
I worked at a company that paid in cash we asked why.they said it was a bylaw that you where paid in cash and not tokens or company scripts like in the past.it meant you could only shop at a company store.
@rodneygunn788
3 жыл бұрын
1868 trucking act
@callumbush1
3 жыл бұрын
Check your resolution on your camera on your phone if it's at the highest resolution it might be the the reason it shuts down after 10 minutes try dropping the resolution if that don't work check that you've enough memory capacity.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Im still learning how to improve my video qualities and need all the help I can get.
@callumbush1
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 I'm just binge watching all your videos mate, you learn something new everyday, never even thought about those silver coins until watching your channel.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@callumbush1 Thanks, hope you enjoyed them.
@amybaccellini5438
3 жыл бұрын
Please contact crimebodge
@meyou4618
3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the painting of lemmy from please..I need one
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Its an original painting by Charlie Roy. He's brilliant.
@thefoxhat6163
3 жыл бұрын
My understanding of the "Gold or Silver coin" is they are Legal Tender but the only people legally obliged to accept them "for value" is government departments. If you are billing a government department, I believe you can demand payment in Gold or Silver coin because they are the only legal tender issued in the UK. It is fascinating that the banks run away from them. You'd have thought legal tender in payment for a debt would be readily accepted. When they increase their deposits at BoE vault or pay taxes (I know it's unlikely they would pay taxes), they could give the coins back as part payment.
@brucerioch3832
3 жыл бұрын
The reason I believe the Police said they believe you committed the offence of BILKING is because they do not want to be sued for an unlawful ARREST, which would include BATTERY / KIDNAP and FALSE IMPRISONMENT. I would strongly suggest sueing. I have included some case law which may suggest you had made of as you were no longer at the point of payment (if we remove all other factors) I think the Police / Crown would struggle to prove dishonesty and intent in this case. Definately needs to be tested in the courts but don't think it would ever get there, as no dishonesty or intent to leave without payment. In my view. CASE LAW R v McDavitt 1981 A departure from the spot where payment is expected thus committing a 'making off' offence YEAR OF CASE 1981 CITATION [1981] CrimLR 843 COURT Crown Court SUMMARY M and three friends had a meal at a restaurant. The friends subsequently left, but M stayed at the table. The bill was presented by a waiter and an argument started between M and the owner after which M refused to pay. He went to the door, to try and leave, but the exit was blocked and he was kept in the restaurant until the police arrived. He was interviewed and admitted intending to leave without paying but then deciding to stay until the police arrived. He was charged with and convicted of making off without payment. He appealed. Held Appeal dismissed, conviction upheld 'Making off' refers to 'a departure from the spot where payment is required or expected'. Where that spot is, is a matter for the jury to decide, depending on the circumstances. In this case it was the restaurant and the jury could find M guilty of an attempt even if the full offence was not proved. DISHONESTY. To determine whether a person has been dishonest the courts apply what is known as the Ivey test (this has replaced the Ghosh test). Section 2 of The Theft Act also states that: it will not be regarded as dishonest when someone believes one or more of the following: they had a lawful right to deprive the other of the property, the other person would have consented to the appropriation, if: they had known about it, and they had known the circumstances of it; or the owner of the property could not be ascertained by taking reasonable steps (e.g. abandonment), except in this case where the property comes to someone who is acting as a trustee or personal representative. a person's appropriation of property belonging to another may be dishonest, even if they are willing to pay for the property. In each case the belief does not have to be reasonable. Simply an honest belief will suffice e.g. a belief that you could not trace the owner by taking reasonable steps is a sufficient defence, you do not actually have to take reasonable steps to find the owner. It is the belief that is important, but the defendant will also have to get a jury to believe it was an honestly held belief and so the less reasonable it is the harder it will be to convince them that it was. WITH INTENT TO AVOID PAYMENT The intent must be to make permanent default, an intention to delay or defer payment is not enough. This is well illustrated in a recent case 5 in which the defendant came to an agreement with the management of a hotel in which he was staying to pay the substantial bill at a later date, i.e. after he had left the hotel. As a result, an agreement was received that effectively negated the provisions of this offence in that payment was no longer expected on the spot.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
An interesting comment, thankyou. I was trying to pay with legal tender in a form that Tesco had already agreed to accept so there was never an intention not to pay. Not that I need their agreement. I dont see how any of these cases apply to this situation. The Police are not persuing a prosecution against me. kzitem.info/news/bejne/26-QyaSjo6urq44
@brucerioch3832
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 Yeah I know they aren't. Just added my comments to the convo as I think it's an interesting discussion point. I look forward to hearing the outcome of your legal claim for unlawful arrest. I think you have a really strong case.
@derekfaeberwick
2 жыл бұрын
Superb. Again. 👍
@Nayr747
3 жыл бұрын
You should sue the royal mint for misleading you by claiming the coins can be spent when they can't. They're essentially stealing your money. If a car dealership said this car is worth $30,000 because it can be driven places, and after you purchase it you find that it can't drive then they've stolen $30k from you by intentionally misleading you.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
No they are not. I buy the coins specifically for this purpose. You are assuming I'm stuck with them. The only thing the Royal Mint have done wrong is to discourage the banks and supermarkets from accepting them. We are free to use these coins in payment of debt in the same way as any other sort of cash. Shops are free to choose how they get paid unless there is money owed. Then they can't sucessfully sue for not being paid if they refused to accept payment in legal tender.
@rogerdewhurst5750
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 You buy legal tender for less than face value but have to lump a bit of shit when you try to use it. You try it on and the gestapo make cunts of themselves. A bloody good laugh for all except those personally involved.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerdewhurst5750 Some petrol station staff have been amused and interested in it. Its no skin of their nose and makes an otherwise mundane day more interesting. One particular guy I remember liked the coins and enjoyed looking at all the different ones. There are 3 £100 designs, 2 £50 designs and about 8 £20. Some are more jobsworth and think they have some sort of authority. These tend to be supermarket managers. This linked video is the guy who liked the coins and a woman who was a proper Karen about it in subsequent visits after Tesco agreed to accept them.
@andrewrovers4593
3 жыл бұрын
We receive a lot of enquiries about our popular silver commemorative coins (including £5 crowns, £20, £50 and £100 coins) and their legal tender status. Each issue is authorised by Royal Proclamation in accordance with the requirements laid down by the Coinage Act 1971. This means that in common with coins in general circulation these coins have legal tender status. Please note that whilst these coins are legal tender, they are not designed for general circulation, so banks and shops are unlikely to accept the coins. The Royal Mint cannot accept returns of such coins outside of the 14 days return policy. the above is from the royal mint
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I've read it many times. It doesn't address this issue.
@TheOnlyAnonymous
3 жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily agree with you on this whole coin situation. But it would be interesting to see if you have any markers on your name or on your vehicle. You should try to submit an FOIA to the police asking to see intelligence, markers etc on your person and your vehicles. I reckon they've flagged your vehicle as being involved in bilking...
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I suspected that as well, but they've not pulled me over yet. I always flash my lights and wave too. 👋
@joeblogs6380
3 жыл бұрын
Did you sue them for wrongful arrest and kidnap ? ? Bet ya there’s a ten grand compo there
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Documents submitted and waiting on their response which should be quite soon.
@123chris0
3 жыл бұрын
Why not try and buy another £100 coin WITH a £100 coin?!🤯🤯😂
@dsabre4990
3 жыл бұрын
In America, at a gas station (petrol) with cash you have to "pay first." The attendant activates the pump with a "max" amount equal to what you paid. The pump will stop dispensing fuel at that payment amount. Typically you only make one trip in if you don't "overpay" initially.
@shedboy18
2 жыл бұрын
WRITE TO THE QUEEN
@ianstorrar934
3 жыл бұрын
I was serving in N.Ireland when my father passed away I went to a cash machine and withdrew £200 and drove home to Fife in Scotland pulled into a petrol station and filled up my car and handed over a £20 note which was a Northern banknote and was told they could not accept it as it was Irish money and not British, I told the cashier it was legal UK tender and it was all ok he phoned the police the officer who arrived was ex-forces he told the cashier to accept it or I could drive off as he was refusing payment the cashier phoned his boss and was told to take the money. I did go to a local bank the next day and change my notes for RBS
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
I just googled it and this is what came up "Scottish and Northern Ireland banknotes are not legal tender, not even in Scotland and Northern Ireland. In fact, no banknote (including Bank of England notes) qualifies for the term 'legal tender' in Scotland or Northern Ireland."
@ianstorrar934
3 жыл бұрын
@@julianchamberlain5399 I am talking about the 80's and no one had "Google" When police were mostly honest and respected
@kevinraines4318
3 жыл бұрын
can you go to the bank of englang and get £100 for one ?
@maxs6775
3 жыл бұрын
The real problem is " the royal mint producing £100 legal tender coins that are not legal tender ! If they are not worth a £100 , but £20 on ebay then the royal mint should never sell another coin as legal tender! All royal mint coins should be sold as novelty coins! The bank of England should be crystal crystal clear ! Originally the bank took £100 coins but now they won't!
@Normanskie
Жыл бұрын
O dear the simple childish interpretation on law, even a SIMPLE police officer should be able to tell you this one, I did say SIMPLE didn't I. Translated from Latin, actus reus means “guilty act;” and mens rea means “guilty mind.” Now, why are those two phrases so important in the criminal law? The answer is because those two phrases describe the two basic elements the government needs to prove in order to convict a person of a crime. What Is Actus Reus and Mens Rea? - you offered to pay therefore you had no mental intent and you offered to pay therefore you committed no act of not payment, you attended the next day therefore you had no intention of depriving the owner of their property, they refused the payment so you returned with a card payment showing you had no intention of refusing to pay and therefore no intention of depriving the owner of the use of their goods, In order to prove a case of theft the law HAS TO PROVE BOTH COUNTS, sod what the police think as this in quite clear and every 'O' school CHILD who studied law knows this. Simple law. maybe that is why the police have difficulty with basics. This is dead funny.
@billyd1477
3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Excellent job Sir
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou. Its quite an interesting conundrum isn't it?
@bigbaza30
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mint a pocket full of these £100 coins, I'd be Minted. If you go to Tesco to fill your car up to £100 (max allowed) and you have no money until next payday use "Pay at pump" using your debit card but make sure you have £1 in your account (or it won't work nor will it if you try to pay inside), stick card in enter pin and fill the car, bingo! job done, three days later you will go overdrawn for the said amount minus £1 because when you use pay at pump it will only deduct £1 to see if the debit card is live. Ironically if you try to use a Tesco bank debit card to do this it will be rejected. (Don't try to do your weekly shop using this method, it won't work). Make sure the funds are in your account within the 3 days or you will be charged a £25 unauthorized overdraft fee. This is a last resort option. Then you won't be arrested for Bilking.
@Normanskie
Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I really upset the bank manager, I had a n account for over 20 years from the time when you did not have a hole in the wall and a debit card, all new customers got offered one but as a loyal customer of many year I applied FOUR times and still didn't get a card, SOoooo I wrote TWO cheques out on plain paper and ordered something through the post, the cheques were HOMEMADE and like the legal tender in the words of the Queen, I promised to pay the bearer on demand the sum of, and sent these two cheques off though the post, first of all I would like to point out that it is illegal to issue a cheque knowing you do not have the funds to pay it, so I made sure there were funds to cover the promissory note, anyway once the creditor accepts the cheque their bank HAS to accept it and then my bank has to accept it, I got a personal telephone call from the manager who BEGGED me not to issue anymore cheques and my new card and cheque book would be ready within TWO DAYS. He did make a compliment, you obviously know what you are doing, ha, ha, ha.
@timothybrown7792
3 жыл бұрын
If your phone is stopping after 10 minutes of video recording check that its not recording in 4k mode. 4k demands a lot of processing power and can cause the device to overheat. check your video settings in camera mode and just select 1080 or 720 either of which is fine. If its not in 4k mode then either your device is set to stop after consumimg so much memory or there is a fault.
@ThisIsJamesL
3 жыл бұрын
Could be a max file size issue
@Normanskie
Жыл бұрын
I undertake a lot of charitable left wing videos and if I do them on still camera they shut down while video cameras have videos the whole of the Manchester Marathon, some SEVEN hours, something to do with a VAT tax type of charge on video cameras which isn't on still cameras and by videoing more than 10 minutes incurs an extra charge in taxation.
@CyberCurtainTwitcher
3 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised you weren't aware if this. I remember what happened back when the first silver £20 coins were introduced and some guy was buying loads on a credit card to get points and then cashing them in at a bank and repeating the process. Clarification was then made on the term "legal tender". More info available here: www.royalmint.com/aboutus/policies-and-guidelines/legal-tender-guidelines/ Although i can't find the original article from around 2013, this does clarify the position.
@julianchamberlain5399
3 жыл бұрын
Of course I'm aware of it. Here is the link. www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3390519/I-buy-Royal-Mint-commemorative-coins-bulk-credit-card-gain-airmiles-cash-bank-s-refusing-accept-them.html
@yesihavereadit
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't take legal tender to settle a debt? So have they breached the consumer credit act? Try again with £2 coins. That would be twice that you tried to pay debt. Banks can get rid of coins.
@simontuffs4106
3 жыл бұрын
Saw the first video, the cop was jealous. When the filth apologies please do not accept and sue the W*nkers
@wepipe
3 жыл бұрын
why the HELL do you keep saying '..I don't think..' instead of ' .. I know..' FFS ! Please try and be smarter.
@mentalhamster9921
2 жыл бұрын
I guess barclays will never aprove you for credit card again and in the first oportunity they will downgrade your limit
@tonymason8481
3 жыл бұрын
You haven’t committed a crime, the police are in the wrong for suggesting you might, if they had any doubt it should have been put through to cps for a decision, this way it’s hanging over your head, iv not doubt there will be a note on police files that could cause you grief in the future, I’d demand a full apology at the least, preferably take legal advice to sue them for wrongful arrest which it obviously was !!! Looking closely at the wording around these coins, it’s absolutely clear they are legal tender, they even have a royal proclamation in accordance with the 1971 coin act, they do add that they are mainly for collection purposes but can not dismiss the fact the value on them is what it says on the coin ie £100, £50,£20,£5,£2,£1,50p and so on, if the royal mint was to suggest other all confidence would be lost, they have to honour the face value at least of the coin.
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