Sony hates this trick. I saved 4600 euros. Thank you
@webinatic216
3 жыл бұрын
It feels like the Sony engineers mixed with the values enough to make the color science different on every camera when it could in theory produce same image as the 2-3 times more expensive cameras. It's the same in audio headphones. Same audio element but different use of built in equalizer. Great work with the video.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You don't think they are doing this on purpose do you ?!?!?! 😂
@PoorMansPerspective
3 жыл бұрын
I just saw your video today and Implemented it already on my sony a7III and will test it tomorrow but you already earned my sub + notification. Thing is, only a youtuber can understand a KZitemr's effort to upload a content, that's why I'm always grateful to any KZitemr who give high value in social for free. Most of the time, it's the non KZitemrs who dislikes and bash KZitemrs just because they didn't not get what they want from a content as if they are paying you. Cheers from Germany 💪
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you For the kind comment... it's really appreciated... especially when I'm getting bashed! Cheers from Bournemouth.
@BrewReview
3 жыл бұрын
I’m Swedish but was adopted early in life and now live in the US. We all speak English anyway to a large degree. You didn’t quiiiite nail the pronunciation, but close enough and hey, it’s appreciated! Nice vid, I really wish A7iii included Cinetone, I’ll try this out!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Hey... I know you're being too kind !!! Thanks for the comment and let us know if you like the look on your A7III ?
@sevsuk2011
3 жыл бұрын
I bought my a7iii as a general purpose camera, mainly street photography but also impromptu video work. this s-cinetone workflow is excellent, thanks for explaining a technically difficult subject easily for the layperson. 👍
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad it helps and thank you for the comment, it's appreciated.
@NotafraidFilm
3 жыл бұрын
Loaded this on my A7III and then on my a6300 to see if it worked there as well, and it's a pretty good match. Thank you!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to give feedback... good to know for those with the A6300. Cheers
@BogdanHududoi
3 жыл бұрын
We need version 3 now :D for sony a7iii to match the real S-Cinetone (p11 profile) on a7siii
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
True... the P11 profile is a little different to the S-Cinetone on the FX9... which was the starting point for all my comparisons.
@tonyblack2141
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Pls create one for the a7c 🙏🏿
@Winesscn
3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@vanschependom
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyblack2141 the a7c and a7III are literally the same camera, just a slightly different body. This perfectly will work on the a7c!
@tonyblack2141
3 жыл бұрын
@@vanschependom Many thanks for taking the time to respond mate. Cheers!
@haischool
3 жыл бұрын
your voice and flow of video makes me feel like I'm watching Bob Ross paint. smooth and relaxing. great video.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you (I think), I don't know who Bob Ross is ???
@haischool
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot he was a painter.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@haischool Looking him up now!
@TheDIYFilmmaker
3 жыл бұрын
You should do another for the Sony a7C. As this one has a different color science than the a7 iii. Great job!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@fer_pena
3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome indeed. I've been using these settings on my a7c. Despite it works quite well, I believe a proper settings for the a7c would be even better as its color science is a bit different.
@ravengo6560
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@dawuddawid
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good, i am an a7c user myself.
@rowanwhile
3 жыл бұрын
Just listening to your voice makes me feel like I have been through therapy. You sound so therapeutic and give me faith in humanity. :)
@MsAdriqa
2 жыл бұрын
He reminds me David Attenborough :)
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Nooooo!
@VidHeadz
3 жыл бұрын
I have just loaded these settings and went out and filmed a test with my wife going through the store. I wish you would have made a Hashtag for us to use to unify us using these settings as we post them. That way you can just search the hashtag to see what people have done with this look. These setting are amazing right out of camera. I prefer this look so far. I also have loaded the corresponding settings in my A7SIII and I look forward to getting out and doing a comparison as you have done to see how well they match for me. I will be doing a video on the settings and steering my watchers back here to get the settings. I want show how pleased I am with the look.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea... I've just added a hashtag (a bit late I know!). Thank you for the kind feedback, it's appreciated. So far it seems people are getting some great matches between this, the A7Siii, and I've just seen a super close match with the FX6 S- Cinetone - straight out of camera!
@VidHeadz
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot I will use the Hashtag when I post my A7III Cinetone vid. Which should be posted soon.
@LangstoniusRex
3 жыл бұрын
Used this info for shooting a sketch yesterday and im the happiest person ever upon opening davinci resolve today. Thank you so much for this!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Ohh... that's great to hear! Thank you so much and I'm glad it helped!
@JustinMorrisonDance
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This series of videos has been a basis for exploring matching a few cameras: an A7SII and a Sony ZV-1 (no Cine 4 on this camera. Yet to dig into HLG options)
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say that... I was thinking of turning this into a series!
@Matt.Gillard
3 жыл бұрын
I love watching these BBC camera's in the wild documentaries, just something about the narrator's voice! All jokes aside, loved the video!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Stop it... you're winding me up on purpose! 😂
@sylvestrisstudios
3 жыл бұрын
Lovely clear no messing expansion. Thank you. Subscribed for Boscome pier. I love it when I come across a local on KZitem.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub... much appreciated. Hey, great to see Tuckton on your channel, we'll have to do a meet-up with the other locals on here !!!
@sylvestrisstudios
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot sounds like a good idea.
@gillesmatheronpro
Жыл бұрын
As Brew Review mentioned, most Swedes pratice English so well they can call themselves fluent. In Sweden, you have your first lessons in English around the age of 12, but, as most films and series are broadcasted in original versions, you've heard English-speaking folks from your very young age. This is why, even though the Swedish royal family is from French roots, the Bernadotte (and speaks French as a native), the country is, to say the least, impregnated by English language down to its core. Your videos are always a great source of knowledge, and you have the skills and talent to pull us high enough so we feel better in some way. Even though we are not, for you are ! I tried your settings on my trusted workhorse (used as camera B), the RX10M4. It hosts the same BSI stacked sensor as RX100 M4 to M6 and (most probably) RXO II, as well as many other cameras such as drone ones (DJI uses it for their 1" models). It does wonders in most cases (I managed to fool many colleagues, making them think my photos were from a full-frame, and the DxO PhotoLab 6 software helped a bit too), but in very low-light conditions. In videos I have the same results, with more extremes, and the fact noise that reduction is not as convincing in most editing softwares. So I gave a try at your settings, but this camera only offers Cine2 Gamma, and I found myself with very flat contrasts and colours. Hard to get back to something decent, even by pushing many cursors in the editing software. I shall go on with my journey towards improving (to some extend) this camera's posibilities. While being some 4 years old, it performs great and still has no offspring, as we owners hope for a RX10M5. This Swiss knife of photo and video is irreplacable and has no contender, but it could easily be updated now... 4 years is old, in the digital imagery era. Do you have some experience in trying your settings on 1" sensor cameras (Sony, obviously), or could you offer some extra useful tips ? Many many grateful thanks !
@carlculpepperimages
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the fruits of your labor! I just tried your settings in the A7 III, and the footage cuts nicely with my A7S III with S-Cinetone (from the new FW update). I see in the comments that you might be doing another video on matching to the new A7S III "official" S-Cinetone. I didn't get too scientific with my own initial comparison, but it seems quite close already. I'm sure I'll keep tweaking it on my own, but I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Thanks again for all the work you put into this! And "cheers" from across the pond!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carl, very kind of you to comment and give us the feedback. I was pleased to see Philip Bloom got a very similar result when he was comparing the fake Cinetone to the FX3 version which is identical to the A7Siii. The idea of approaching this again was mainly because so many now want that look on other Sony models... seems we've opened a can of worms. Cheers from Bournemouth!
@bensmyrk700
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, exact settings for the A7C would get plenty of views
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@IAMJRAD
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I heard cinetone was really good for needing minimal editing for a natural look due to how everything comes out. I have an A7iii and since it hasn't gotten the s-cinetone update, this has helped a lot! Going back to what I had said earlier, I'm new to color grading video and my understanding is that slog is not super easy to work with compared to Canon's log. Been dealing with raw as a photographer for a while but videography is a different ball game it seems
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
True... S-Cinetone is designed to be used straight out of camera with minimal grading (if any). The general idea is to expose so that it looks great on the camera and that'll be about right. It's probably best to protect the highlights because if you clip them you can't retrieve any detail. Quite a few people seem to set their zebra's at 109% (max level) and use that as the limit. It's a clever gamma in the way that the contrast and saturation appear to move in proportion to the exposure... so for extra contrast and punchy pictures just lower the exposure a little. Over expose and the highlights roll off nicely with a more pastel look. Generally much easier to deal with than any Log but you will lose some dynamic range (1.5 to 2 stops)
@bradena.1194
3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see your brilliant efforts are receiving the attention they deserve. If we were closer (in Eastern Ontario), I would lend you an a7riv. It'll be exciting to see the results. Thanks for all your hard work. Cheers Hamish
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very kind comment Hamish, it's really appreciated. I wish I was closer... not just to borrow your A7Riv... but because I've family in Toronto and love that part of the World. Cheers from Bournemouth!
@cliflowry9433
3 жыл бұрын
Yet another David Oastler subscriber who mentioned this video in his latest posting. Thanks for all your work.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clif, It was kind of David to give such a loud shoutout!
@Kaulkiul
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible. I use sony a7iii and sony a7siii and I have done tests and it is perfect. Thank you very much!!!
@babyleon
3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these profiles. I can appreciate the time and expertise required to develop them. I have both the a7III and a7Siii and am using them on both. In the few (but growing) hours of daylight here it is easy to white balance with snow.... Again, thank you very much!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Babyleon, very kind of you to say so. Be good to know if they match well for you? No snow in Bournemouth but I can get a good white off the very grey sky !!!
@bonesandwire
2 жыл бұрын
This was very well done and the colors are damn close to spot on. I've been struggling with my A7C matching my A7Siii in almost every gamma mode and this is a great place to start from. Thank you!
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Andwack
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Only got my A7iii last week and I'm loving it!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome... enjoy the camera, it can produce some lovely images. When I compare what we get now, to cameras of not much more than 10 years ago, I'm amazed!
@FALCONHDVIDEOS
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for creating this video and the setting I just upgraded all my A7iii Cameras to Firmware ver 4.0 now and adding the picture profile setting very excited about this.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@michaelpoczynek
3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Canada. I need to get more Canadians watching your channel, the Swedes are catching up. All your videos are awesome thanks for making them. 😀
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
That would help... I have a lot of relatives in Canada, maybe I should visit them when I can! Thank you though... appreciate your comments Michael. 👍
@michaelpoczynek
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Have a nice day! Ps. My photographer is from the UK. His name is Oliver. Maybe he is related? :)
@benjaminevans4980
3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks for the info. I have now used it on 2 shoots and am very happy with the results and the match.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
That's really good to hear, thank you!
@fabiolima1673
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using Cine4, giving us way more to work with on highlights, since it has a total output of 109
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Not so easy for straight to broadcast work, but I think it's a better match between cameras.
@MattSpaugh
3 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend! I finally took some time to load up these settings and shoot some footage with them. Very nice. I've been shooting HLG3 in BT.2020 primarily for the past year or so and have become accustomed to having some margin in my highlights. I usually over-expose by about a full stop as I know I can recover the highlights. I shot a lot of footage with your Pseudo-S-Cinetone settings trying different levels of overexposure and was really amazed at the nice highlight rolloff at around 1/3-2/3 over. Pulling back the saturation a tick and pushing the mid-tones down just a hair really dialed in a look that I like. For situations where I don't want to spend the extra time grading my HLG3, I'll be using your profile settings. Thanks for all your work to sort this and for putting the info out there. Cheers!
@eraism8749
3 жыл бұрын
A+ review
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, that's really useful to know and I'm glad to hear these settings are useful for you. Take care, Paul
@BorsukenSlayer
3 жыл бұрын
I am one of your Swedish viewers! and i love your content
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Sweden!... thank you for the kind comment, and it's good to find your content too. Skål!
@ShawnShaman
3 жыл бұрын
You are a wizard. Bless your heart for putting this together for us! Many, many thanks!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Shawn... but you'll make my head grow !!!
@angelangelov2354
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort! I've dialed in these settings into my a6300 and can't wait to test it. I know the a6300 doesn't have the "new colours" of the a6400, a7 III, etc., but I hope it won't be too far off.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know how you get on... does the A6300 have a Cine4 gamma option?
@angelangelov2354
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Yes, the a6300 does have the Cine4. I''ll shoot some footage tomorrow and if you're interested, I'll upload it to my Google Drive (no compression) and email the link to you.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelangelov2354 That would be great, thank you. There's quite a few people asking for a Cinetone look on the A6300...
@angelangelov2354
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot I've sent you an email with the link to the test videos. I just uploaded three more to the shared folder, with prefixes "NEW_" - these I think would be more useful (they're proprely exposed at least). For what it's worth, all of the videos look like what the scenes looked like to my eyes.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelangelov2354 I've just watched the original ones and thought they looked great. Really beautiful natural looking pictures with a definite filmic feel. Nice one. It's difficult to tell if this is exactly the same look as Cinetone on the A7S3 without comparing colour charts, but it's in the right ball park... and with shots turning out like that, who cares! Very impressive.
@christiantorres6559
3 жыл бұрын
Thanx a lot!! settings look great on my a7III and my a6400!! they look different but have a very close feeling
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback... glad it's working for you Christian. if I get a chance I'll try to do a A6400 version!
@christiantorres6559
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot that sound great!! that should work for the a6600 to as they share sensor and color sience
@ja.spe.r2968
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot I would really appreciate that! I use an a6300 and an a6400.
@Alex-qd1un
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot we all waiting for this
@TheAaronalden
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting the time in! I look forward to trying these out!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
No worries... good to know how you get on...
@tshansen
3 жыл бұрын
I will try this settings on the a6400 and see how it goes. Thank you so much mate....you are a absolute legend
@hudsonfilmr910
3 жыл бұрын
how did it work on 6400? im gonna try!!!
@andrewheki2257
2 жыл бұрын
Here are S-Cinetone settings tailored for the A6400: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qWyok3mQcZ91lZw&ab_channel=%E3%83%8F%E3%83%ABTongarashi
@meric.a
Жыл бұрын
very nice ! excellent result for sony a7c
@VickTamayo
7 күн бұрын
Hey bro I know it's been a year since this comment, but if you don't mind sharing how it worked out for you for the A7C?... Also night time how did it do?
@tomaltman9506
3 жыл бұрын
I liked, subscribed and hit the notification bell, so I don’t miss your settings for the A7RIII. Thank You
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it's appreciated. Looks like I need to borrow an A7RIII then !!!
@carlosanchez_cam
2 жыл бұрын
I used it on my a6400, I can't believe how the image looks, it's amazing!!!
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
brilliant!
@Sonic-Boom
Жыл бұрын
That sounds promising for my ZV-E10 then.
@jensenperalta7927
3 жыл бұрын
You're a genius! This is marvelous for someone like me that has some degree of color blindness in some shades of color. now all I need to do is watch out for exposure. Thank you so much!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
... and white balance!... but hope it helps. Thanks for the comment.
@philippblank
3 жыл бұрын
That shot of the beach is impressive, they match so well! Subbed.
@JHernz
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot !! Great video and love your attitude. By the way thank you for taking the time to get these settings and for sharing them with us.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you for the kind comment... it's appreciated!
@wjimz
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, my A7iii videos look great right out of camera using these settings. Thank you so much!
@alghamian
3 жыл бұрын
making a video about camera settings does make for a great content. So please try to keep it long. one of the greatest detailed information on youtube ! this was my first video :) thank you for sharing last but not least, I am making the change from panasonic to sony, and if you have done any video that explains the sony picture different profiles then I would be grateful if you would share here as a comment.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sami for the very kind comment... it's appreciated. Apart from REC709 (which is a standard broadcast spec with regard to signal levels and data rates, so it fits into an 'over the air' transmission system)... and HLG type profiles designed for HLG displays... most of the different Panasonic and Sony profiles are just a subjective judgement as to what looks good. I like the idea of a video explaining how gamma curves, colour space and profiles work together... give me a while and I'll work on that - thank you!
@ColGadarby
Жыл бұрын
Just picked up an A7iii today and getting a lens tomo - the Sony 70-200 F4 (I know - an unusual lens for a first lens) I will be putting these S Cinetone settings into PP9 tonight in readiness...I have to say - your content and delivery is beyond excellent.
@AdeelofSteel
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this sir. These settings do look really good.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@kris4066
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you @extrashot for sharing cool setup. that looks amazing.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kris.
@jvf1970
3 жыл бұрын
Tried this on my A7III and so far really liking the look. Thanks for sharing 👌
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
That's really useful to know.. thank you!
@thomastthai
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another amazing follow-up video! I came from your version 1 video which contained valuable detailed info! Sony updated the A7S III firmware to support Cinetone today. Would you mind comparing your A7 III picture profile for the new A7S III Cinetone picture profile?
@CarlBergsdorf
3 жыл бұрын
That would be lovely.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
I will... now thinking we need a series of these to cover more Sony cameras?
@mrdrgonzo
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot yes please! I’ve an A7siii and A6400 that I use as a B Cam, be great to have this little beast match it’s bigger brother!
@M3films.
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, really appreciate the time and effort on this picture profile. Thanks!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Jeff, thank for the kind comment.
@carlitofilmz
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this video saved me 1800 dollars I was about to get the s3 because of the cinetone
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped !!!
@fred0c
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this video. I have a A7C and gonna see if this work with the FX3 that I just ordered. At least its a reference starting point for this picture profile
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you... there's a few people on here who've reported good results with the A7C so it'll be good to know how you get on. I'd definitely like to do a closer match for some other Sony cameras soon, including the A7C
@3dpuccio
3 жыл бұрын
I use this setting on mi Alpha 6500 and it’s looking awesome ! Thank so much for your time, greetings from Chile !
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
That's useful to know, I'm thinking about doing a series of these for other Sony cameras. Thanks Carlos.. and Hi from Bournemouth !
@p_p
3 жыл бұрын
man you have the most interesting and funny intro i ever saw. it makes me laugh everytime :D keep up the good work
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
I'll try - thank you.
@storiesbyad
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting so much effort into this for making easy for us....❤️❤️
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome... thank you for the kind comment!
@houstonprofessionalphotogr2603
3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. I am using your setting so far love them
@cuco30
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, effort and creativity. Great content 👍🏼
@MarioSoMedia
3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing!
@joonha0152
2 жыл бұрын
tried this on my a7C and tested that the WB in my room sets to 3600 while my FX3 on Cinetone gets 3500. still, I guess it's as close as it can get for now! thanks a lot!
@robwasnj
3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up but I'd love to see this for the A7Riii, tempted to try the A7iii settings on my camera though.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Some have already tried and find the results pleasing... It might not be an exact match, but hopefully I can get to borrow an A7Riii to test soon. You can't do any harm trying on your camera... and if you don't like it there's a reset item on the bottom of each profile menu... puts it back to where you started.
@iguanaman08
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these settings. Will give them a try. I was currently using these settings on my A7III. Mine and yours look very similar, but mine maybe too saturated. Highs and shadows look better on yours too. 👍 PP10 Black level -15 HLG3 Black Gamma Wide 709 Knee Auto Saturation +3 Detail level +1 Phase 0 Colour Depth R+1, G+1, B+1, C+1, M0, Y+1
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Scott... one of the problems we have is that the official Cinetone does some neat contrast changes with the gamma... ie the more you under expose a shot the higher the contrast and saturation appear. We're getting close though!
@adailyodyssey
3 жыл бұрын
They match so good
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear... thank you!
@radarholdorf2296
3 жыл бұрын
Linguagem simples e direta, Obrigado por compartilhar seus conhecimentos. Ganhou um inscrito
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
De nada. Obrigado pelo comentário e a inscrição é apreciada.
@Mauadtube
3 жыл бұрын
I’m using those settings in my a7iii and it look fantastic! I dont have to grade color no more.. only thing: it’s kind of hard on faces when its sunny
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you... and you're right, direct sun can clip really early on the A7iii
@Hondanovich
3 жыл бұрын
S-cinetone for a7c is killer feature! In extrashot we trust!
@wolframmarius9009
3 жыл бұрын
i get my a7c on monday, did u try it allready? Does it work?
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
I realise I've been slow with this.... but many here have reported good results from using these settings on the A7C ?
@wolframmarius9009
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot thanks a lot, best regards from austria :)
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@wolframmarius9009 Thank you... from Bournemouth!
@MammadAliyev
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your efforts. added new profile. will test it!
@tomdchi12
3 жыл бұрын
I assume that was Swedish for "I will not buy this record, it is scratched." (Oh, and that's a pretty amazing match!)
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
I hope it wasn't that! 😂... also hope the match works for you.
@SimplexVisuals
3 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. Excited to try this out soon!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Let us know if it works for you?
@SimplexVisuals
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Sure, I already got some samples last time but didn't had the chance to edit them but so far, I think it looks really good! Thanks for sharing!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@SimplexVisuals Cheers.
@frankgbatista
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! This is very helpful. Hello from Cuba 🇨🇺
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Hope it works for you... hello from Bournemouth!
@skymakai
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update! There’s still a noticeable difference in hue. The A73 looks more green. The A7S3 looks more magenta.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean from watching my video or when testing on your cameras?
@skymakai
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot from watching your video.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@skymakai I sort of see what you mean... and I can see a slight shift on the KZitem video as well, especially in the sky at the end. However, when I preview the original file on my own screen, it's not there... they are a perfect match. I'm wondering if there's something about the 8bit vs 10bit which effects the coding when it gets compressed into H.264 for KZitem? It's very slight though...
@bjrndyresen147
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is great! The a7S3 settings also look really good on the a7iii BTW, even if in that case it isn't a s-cinetone match.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bjørn, that's good to know... this is only really relevant if you need to match the two cameras on a shoot... otherwise, just use the one you like the look of. Take care.
@jamescox975
3 жыл бұрын
You are awesome for doing all this careful work!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you... hope it works well for you.
@tashaandmike887
2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try this out! I have the a7c and love the videos!
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Try it... and let us know how you get on. Thanks for the comment. 👍
@BobinXavier
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! That helped out. The colours felt more natural than before. But the skintone seems to be yellowish (might be issue with WB setting not sure). Can you please explain how to expose videos when using S-Cinetone in a7iii. Love from India..❤️❤️
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The original S-Cinetone is designed to be usable straight out of camera, so no need to ETTR or anything. Just expose it like you want it to look.
@CraigBeckta
3 жыл бұрын
I have both cameras, thanks for sharing. I will give it a try.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Should be good... let us know how you get on!
@TheLensSchwendi
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, thanks for this detailed information! I appreciate. One comment about the brightness: I work as an optical engineer and I made the experience, that lenses have a pretty large tolerance on real F-number vs. the F-Number setting. I guess you used the very same lens with the very same F-Number setting for the comparison test. But if not, this could be the cause. I found out there is even an ISO standard for F-Numbers, which allows certain tolerances. Hello from Switzerland
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Good point... I need to revisit this issue with the same lens and some new charts. I never knew about the ISO standard for f numbers. Thank you.
@TheLensSchwendi
2 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot yeah I was surprised as well. We had such a case, one lens was pretty different to a lens with the same fnumber spec.
@MegaStinde
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for this, Cheers from Finland. David sent me :)
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim... glad he sent you!
@CarlBergsdorf
3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are a magican! Can't wait to try this out tomorrow on my A7III.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you get on with it... ?
@CarlBergsdorf
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot I will 👍
@CarlBergsdorf
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Hello Mr extrashot. I recently uploaded a video where I tested your Cinetoneh V2 and would love to hear your thoughts about the results if you have a couple of minutes. The footage starts at 1:34 in my last video. Thank you.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlBergsdorf I think it looks good... you're right about the brightness and the gamma tweaks. Thank you for featuring. Love your chilled cat !!!
@CarlBergsdorf
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Thank you for taking the time man. I used it my latest video as well with only minor tweeks and I just love how it looks how it makes the process faster. You did the Sony community a great service :)
@Javavlog20
3 жыл бұрын
Damn! This V2 is dope! Subscribed sir!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub... it's genuinely appreciated!
@francescorungo
3 жыл бұрын
Grazie! grandioso! proverò subito sulla mia a7iii. ❤️❤️❤️
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastico, facci sapere come te la cavi?
@francescorungo
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot ho provato è molto bello però secondo il mio modesto parere con il Black level a -10 si perde il dettaglio sui toni neri. Ho provato il Black level a 0 e va meglio, poi magari in post produzione si abbassa il nero quanto si vuole. Che ne pensate?
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@francescorungo Il Cinetone ufficiale ha molto contrasto e saturazione alle esposizioni più basse che poi si riduce man mano che si apre. Siamo finiti a -10 per abbinare, ma non c'è motivo per cui non potresti illuminarlo se lo preferisci. Fallo!
@christianpokrywka9054
3 жыл бұрын
Legend.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
It'll go to my head! (but thank you)
@alejandroarealvelez1426
3 жыл бұрын
Thak you very much! Kind regards since Buenos Aires, Argentina.
@Mauadtube
3 жыл бұрын
From not since 😅
@cristianungur2843
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all this .. it made a huge difference! I'm never going back to HLG3. :)
@GazeUnlimited
3 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos. I will try these settings on my а6600, but unfortunately I have no way to compare the result
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
I don't either... but there's a few on here who've said it works well on the A6600. I need to borrow one to test (or even better make a whole series with a few Sony cameras). If you try it... let us know if it works for you? Thanks for the kind comment.
@andersmenge
3 жыл бұрын
Will def try this out!! Thank you! Cheers from Norway 👏🏻👏🏻🇳🇴
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome... and Hi from Bournemouth!
@andersmenge
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Do you actually know if Sony could release S-Cinetone to older A7 line camera's, as the A7iii and Riii? Would that even be possible with the sensor and bit-rate?
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@andersmenge I'm sure they could get close enough, but doubt they would want to. In fact, I'm surprised they did it for the A7S3. I originally thought it was supposed to be added value for the Cinema Line range (FX3/6/9 and Venice). I know they got close with the FS5 and FS7ii but these were semi pro video cameras too. I wonder how much pressure we can add by doing it ourselves?
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
3 жыл бұрын
You’re some kind of wizard. Time to get out the A7iii again!!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
You should... still a great camera!
@AltaFilm
Жыл бұрын
Cine4 and "Cinetoneh" are very similar, great video 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@leonbirgers
3 жыл бұрын
Great content and very positive host. I have that impression that you are possibly a relative of Philip Bloom, am I wrong? ))
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂... I've known him for many years... but no relation !!!
@rfish2
3 жыл бұрын
What a great channel! Consider me subscribed 🙏 You have a very calming presence and cadence in your videos. A breath of fresh air on KZitem!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for the kind words and the subscription.... it's really appreciated!
@bobkrist1
3 жыл бұрын
Paul: Do you think you'd ever do a Cinetoneh setting for the A7C, since it shares a lot of the same color science as the newer A7SIII...I ask as a subscriber, and a former still pro turned late life (I'm older than you, I think, by a good margin:-) small time filmmaker, and I hate to grade. Your A7III cinetoneh is perfect along with my A7SIII. But I want to downsize to the A7c's if I can, and a cinetoneh profile would be brilliant. But I know you're busy. Just wanted to ask. thanks!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob... I do hope so... I'm working on a way I can easily set up a method for doing a few of these models together. I would then borrow the cameras and get a more accurate match. I'm sure we'll include the A7C... it's a popular camera with a lot of demand and I'm confident a close Cinetone match with that would be possible. Sorry it's taking so long to get this together.... my day job keeps getting in the way of the fun stuff. Hopefully soon. Take care.
@bobkrist1
3 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Funny how day jobs get in the way! I'm retired now, so I just work on my little film projects. Really enjoy your channel and your knowledge and wit! Thanks!
@onefreddymorales
3 жыл бұрын
I just pulled these settings into my a7iii and I will post some sample video from it.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Love to see them!
@jonnycreative1561
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work and dedication brother!
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
No worries, hope it works for you!
@tomowens7499
Жыл бұрын
i'll play with these settings today, thank you! a question though, i've tried out lots of different profile tweaks from different sources and i have yet to see one where the different functions are explained! i'm not merely interested in following someone's instructions for 'knee' or 'phase', i'd really like a video explaining what these DO! then i'd feel comfortable setting things myself... have you done (or would you do) a video like this?
@IonCosmina
2 жыл бұрын
Very useful!!! Thanks. Will try on a7s2 as well.
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Did it work?
@IonCosmina
2 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot yes! Thank you! We paired the a7iii with the a7siii and it works.
@TonysTravel
2 жыл бұрын
Echoing other satisfied users 😀 Yes I tried the settings in my new Sony A6400 and they work perfectly. No color grading no LUTS absolute nothing. Thank you @extrashot
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@joe_y.
3 жыл бұрын
you da man. Been waiting for this
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jo, hope it works for you.
@llamalandYT
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, subscribed. PLEASE can you do the same to match the A7iii with the new A7iv S-cinetone PP. Would LOVE to get them matching nicely!
@ARTISTICREEL
3 жыл бұрын
I seriously thought for a second I’m watching David Attenborough’s show. Hahahaha and that intro is giving me the scare.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no... not him again! (I'm not a fan) 😂
@ARTISTICREEL
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha having said that your great of what your doing.
@extrashot
3 жыл бұрын
@@ARTISTICREEL Too kind... but thank you! 😂
@dawuddawid
3 жыл бұрын
You promised and delivered👍🏻
@jordanbathe1875
3 жыл бұрын
Do you still colour grade the shot or just use directly what you shoot with this picture profile? Do you need a certain LUT to start off with? Also do you use the gamma assist view function? Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to use!
@extrashot
2 жыл бұрын
Really sorry it’s taken so long to reply… I was taking a break from KZitem! No need to grade... it's meant to be used right out of camera much like any profile. Cinetone is sort of half way between a film gamma and REC709 so should be best of both worlds.
@jordanbathe8772
2 жыл бұрын
@@extrashot Appreciate it! Hope your break was nice!
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