Please take Dragons Breath and Blast Wave in m+. 2 icicle graphic should end in Glacial Spike, not ice lance. Sporecloak nerfed, go 2x Shadowflame (might transition blue silken lining, but they are the same base item).
@starryvacancy
11 ай бұрын
Should I dump my azureweave asap? Been wearing it all season. Admittedly stopping paying attention about bis for awhile. #frost4life
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
@@starryvacancy since s2 comes out tmmrw, yeah you'll want to transition off it
@NNOITRAftw
11 ай бұрын
@@Manather thank you for the video. 5* as always. Even for a frost mage m+ player only, is it worth to change azureweave into 2x shadowflame in s3? What would be theoretically the best slots for that? Same slots of azureweave (shoulders and feet on my case) or legs and feet/waist? thank you!
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
@@NNOITRAftw azureweave got hit hard, so definitely worth to drop it. As an m+ player I’d probably transition to 2x blue silken lining. As for the place of it, eventually it will end up on cloak and bracers, but early season for ilvl you can put it in any piece that sims well for you, just avoid tier slots.
@NNOITRAftw
11 ай бұрын
@@Manathertyvm for the feedback - appreciate it
@MrPezzant
11 ай бұрын
The most generous streamer ever sharing their entire setup from WA to Addons and layout. You didn't just help me with learning the spec but also the best setup to use. Subbed.
@chillasey
5 ай бұрын
This is insanely helpful, thanks for the walkthrough. I immediately upped my damage with the right aoe rotation, that cone of cold refresh to double the frozen orb is something I didn’t come up with on my own. I appreciate the text into the video gameplay, really helped me understand
@Sonatafade
11 ай бұрын
This is your best guide yet! I really appreciate you continuing to make full guides every season even if not a ton has changed.
@kl6686
9 ай бұрын
Well done sir, great tutorial. I tried to watch a tutorial to help my girlfriend with her sewing machine yesterday and it made me appreciate how impressive your tutorials are. The sewing community has no concept of how to do a tutorial. Just a person fumbling with a phone set to record. They made threading the machine so complicated, it made feral or arcane rotations look simple.
@christophervelasquez2063
10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much @Manather, this guide has helped me out a bit, I was just looking for some fine tuning for my gameplay and you brought to light some nuances to the Frost gameplay, that I was looking for answers for!
@hailfastcorexxx
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your unending dedication to Frost, your information and knowledge is greatly appreciated.
@Ohnan12
11 ай бұрын
praise the lord manather
@PvPaddict007
11 ай бұрын
A drop before the season even starts. This man is a HERO! Thank You so much. From a busy dad gamer this helps a lot
@duenorth4535
9 ай бұрын
Gosh you are amazing! Followed you a year ago and my comp broke. Finally getting back into dragonflight and playing. Felt lost again but you bring it all back together. Thank you so much for these great videos!!!
@P4RT1shiNy
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for helping out the community!
@Shanlis
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video 😊 It's always nice to see your guide at the start of the new season ❤
@Afterhours.101
11 ай бұрын
havent played frost in years, came back to it for this season per raid roster. man target swapping, etc, too much brain. can i just enjoy a class where i can actually look at the boss and mechanics too without albert einsteining the game. this is crazy. either way great video, ive learned alot and im sure it gets easier with memory. but dam. after playing a ret paladin, this is so much work, ret i just flop around jumping while spamming big dps and i can heal myself lol, its just fun
@amirhesamazimi1821
2 ай бұрын
Best guide on frost mage i've been searching everywhere to find a good guide this is by far the best guide thx for the great content
@yiannisjk
11 ай бұрын
Great to see you back, big man. Frost finally getting the respect it deserves and it wouldn't be possible without legends like you
@Imnotabush
4 ай бұрын
thanks dude im new to the game and learning m+ atm in low key. your guides helped me so much.
@crowcrow1465
10 ай бұрын
You could be an ivy league professor, you break this stuff down to such an elementary level that anyone can grasp. Super appreciated.
@diegocarvalho5738
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the amazing guide. Extensive guides like this really help bridge the small pockets of missing knowledge of some of the mechanics at work. Looking forward to the arcane guide if you have the opportunity to make one. Love the streams too!
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
Already made an arcane guide, but I removed it since the arcane rotation changed significantly after it was released. Its the same rotation as 10.1.5, but on opener you do the filler rotation till 18s on siphon storm -> first big burn.
@ephemerisone74
11 ай бұрын
just watching this video was a 20k dps increase. thanks manather
@alexanderkrenz3717
11 ай бұрын
without having seen the video yet, i am super excited and really waited for it already :D
@Kasdeya3113
3 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this guide. this really helped me with my rotation and priorities on procs. i was doing a 5 min parse and my damage overall is around 180-190k dps in 515 ilvl gear. does that sound about right or should i be doing a lot more single target?
@F1ipsydez
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your Mage content Manather!
@grudley
5 ай бұрын
couple questions and i'll probably add more as i go along 1. when at two icicles, why not frost bolt -> flurry -> ice lance -> glacial spike? 2. why only ray of frost at one winter's chill? Does it eat both stacks if you have two? Everyone mentions use it at one stack but no one says why
@Manather
5 ай бұрын
1. You would, assuming you dont have fof which would take prio over the frostbolt. 2. Ray generates fof, if you use it with 2 winters chill you will lose an extra ice lance to munching.
@grudley
5 ай бұрын
@@Manather that makes sense, thank you
@Diegofreaz56
10 ай бұрын
Bro love your guide, I spent the whole flight watching and watching, and when I arrive to the hotel I used it. Very useful Info, Weak Auras and Similar, hope I can found you online on twitch to give my twitch sub.
@hypasky
3 ай бұрын
Hi Manather, if we go by the 5th example combo 4:56 and you have 5 icicles up so then you glacial spike into flurry and ice lance x2. When glacial spike hits is it going to benefit from winters chill? when i've tested it on a target dummy it's not consuming the winters chill and isn't 100% critting.
@Manather
3 ай бұрын
it consumes a winters chill that is refreshed by your flurry, since flurry has 3 projectiles. This interaction wont work if you are too close to the target (generally at or slightly out of melee range), and its reasonable to not see 100% crit rate on GS unless you have like 34% crit.
@hypasky
3 ай бұрын
@@Manather ah yes I see it now, very easy to miss. Thank you for replying
@werbistdudenn4230
11 ай бұрын
hey, i have a dumb question, if i do not have the TSET, do i still have to use the glacial spike on aoe targets or is it to bad and i shouldnt use it? iam not sure with that, thnak you very much this video is awesome just switched from fire to frost, the other question is, when i go the normal aoe build (not subzero) do i have still do nova them before glacial spike?
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
yes you should use glacial spike even without the new tier. And the novas are used after glacial spike, and yes if the mobs are freezable you do always want to nova after the glacial spike - its so you shatter both the main target one and the splitting ice one.,
@nickboris1111
4 ай бұрын
so your ST is that for Raid? and then the second talent tree is your mythic? You said in the mythic part that you could run that talent tree for anything but are you referring to basically any mythic and or are you talking about raid too? sorry im new.
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
ST for raid yeah and any mythic for the second tree, there are always a couple raid bosses you swap a few talents for that can resemble the mythic build, but I'd just check wowhead/warcraftlogs for that
@nickboris1111
4 ай бұрын
@@Manather I used the wow anaylzer and it keeps saying my pre cast winteres chill use is terrible but i swear im using ice bolt and then as soon as it shoots flurry idk what im doing wrong?
@Dnasty1
7 ай бұрын
Great tutorial.. i'm completely new to wow.. i've been trying to get into it since the game came out but always just quit after the free trial ended. This time I bought the level 60 boost to force myself to get into the pvp and give it a shot. Do you recommend playing the actual campaign at least once before jumping into pvp or is that even necessary? I've never been a big pve fan and I think that's why i've never gotten into wow but I heard the pvp is great.
@Manather
6 ай бұрын
I would just jump into pvp, pve has very little relevance to it, what you really need is to learn what other classes can do so you understand how to play against them, so the best way is just to queue.
@tnance29
10 ай бұрын
just to clear up something, the "root to shatter" priority. are we needing to get either freeze/ice nova/frost nova off before glacial spike hits the target? aside from freeze which I suppose you can put down right before glacial spike cast finishes. I feel like ive been doing it backwards lol which doesnt make sense in my mind
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, you just queue it after the glacial spike like you do with flurry.
@aeternus5633
10 ай бұрын
Hi, which WA is showing your Icicles count on the bar under Winter's Chill snowflakes?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
wago.io/Fp6YDrZ4O
@BusJustice
9 ай бұрын
What is this "Freeze" ability on your bars and you talk about at 25:35? You're making it sound like a spell. That s-R icon doesn't seem to be a spell. That's a macro with a custom icon right? You just mean the freeze effect from Ice Nova or Flurry right?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
Its an ability from your water elemental that you get when icy veins is active. The s-R is my keybind of shift r.
@BusJustice
9 ай бұрын
@@Manather thanks for clarifying
@anthonyaviles7953
2 ай бұрын
Hi, your guide has helped a lot! I just having a little problem because I can’t seem to wrap my head around the 2 set price in raiding. Another frost mage was getting “glacial burst”(2 set peice I believe) in his meter. I don’t understand how I wasn’t procing that or what I’m doing wrong to proc it.
@yeti2057
10 ай бұрын
Trying to understand how you got to 5 icicles 11:40 you were at 2 then cast frostbolt flurry which gives 4. Did splintering cold proc?
@yeti2057
10 ай бұрын
For explaining mistake at 11:27
@Wolfinator234
4 ай бұрын
I notice in your builds you take Cryo-Freeze x2 , instead of Spellsteal and Remove Curse . Is there a list of dungeons in S4 where Spellsteal and Remove Curse are or aren't useful ? E.g. in Ruby Life Pools it's quite useful to steal the fire guy's shields .
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
Cant remember if this was filmed on ptr, but i leave spellsteal and remove curse talented always, moreso the dmg parts of the build to follow than the utility.
@swr1240
4 ай бұрын
How far back from the mob do you have to be for flurry to always get there before glacial spike?
@PatrickQT
6 ай бұрын
Great Guide, thanks. Question: when you're at 2 icicles, you frostbolt into a flurry. If it goes bad, you have 4 icicles now. What do you do then? It seems like it would be way more dmg to do another frostbold and do the 2nd combo in the example with glacial spike, no? Am I missing something?
@Manather
6 ай бұрын
you would then Ice lance -> Glacial Spike, the glacial spike is still into winters chill, and ice lance when its frozen is far better than frostbolt
@PatrickQT
6 ай бұрын
@@Manather got it, thanks!
@momoli8740
9 ай бұрын
Hi Manather! Thank you for the wondering guide! I have a couple of questions that would always confuses me while playing frost and was hoping you could have some answers. First one is that, with the 4 pc, do we just GS once we reach 5 icicles immediately, or trying to fish for a flurry with frost bolt so that we shatter that GS? Also, do we hold ray of frost if Icy Veins was about to come off cooldown? Thank you!! 😘
@TheWingsco
11 ай бұрын
This Manather seems like a really cool dude.
@adrenaLineHQ
5 ай бұрын
thanks for the guide, do you still take ray of frost in s4? even in fort weeks?
@piotrpawlik5867
7 ай бұрын
Hello. Thank you for this material. Since you are among top mages from the game can you tell what is decent DPS that forst mage item lvl 480 should make on M+ like 18-20? There is no mechanics in training room, you can just stand and cast spells but in real life you need to avoid AOE etc. The time you move- you dont cast. You dont cast- you dont make DPS. I am frost mage too. I know the rotation, but my DPS is far below my comfort zone. Just would like to know what level of DPS is good enough/normal for my class. Thanks.
@sharingan761
9 ай бұрын
hI !! I Use this rotation AOE Icy Veins + Frozen Orb -> Comet Storm -> Cone of Cold -> Frozen Orb -> Comet Storm -> Blizzard -> Shifting Power -> Blizzard) Could you tell me why it's wrong, yours is a little different I fight AOE, I read that the right thing to do is to use ice nova next to the spike, and in ST fights use flurry next to the spike Could you tell me if this is correct?
@l3g4ci8
10 ай бұрын
so for ST if you dont have any way to shatter the GSPIKE just send it? dont want to hold it? and with ST i also sometimes end up with two Finger of frost proc as well do i prioritize gspike first with flurry or should i send the FOF first before i do gspike
@Toshiro4619
9 ай бұрын
Ice flows is insanely good but it just feels so bad to use. Also the second you busted out a chart of Frost rotation priority you earned my sub.
@MrKaskii
11 ай бұрын
Hey, gj with your guide Manather! One question about ice lance management, if I got the 5 icicles but I've at least 2 fingers of frost waiting cuz of frozen orb is worth to throw one or two of them to not overstack+ having the damage of fingers of frost + gs with winters chill + winters chill icelance? Or is just not worthing overcap icicles for just a little bit of more damage from icelances? I'm currently 420 ilvl with trash gear so I understand gs is not at max potential and dmg comparisions are not acurate to what an endgame build will looks like on details. Thanks in advance!
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
Not worth to overcap icicles, glacial spike really is just the most important thing in your rotation now
@aeryluna
10 ай бұрын
Not really a question but just want to confirm I understand this detail: I get that I'm sending glacial spike even if I don't have flurry, but is this a situation we try avoid by holding last stack of flurry till 3 icicles? But if that last stack is a brain freeze proc we use it instantly, even at 0-2 icicles, because else it prevents us from gaining more potential brain freeze procs? If we get unlucky and don't get another proc, we send and don't shatter. Correct? Ty ❤ Asking because I'm giga stacked on gear now but my dmg still feels a bit disappointing. When looking at critrate of GS i was only at 60% so I think I need to hold more flurries (but not brain freeze)
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
Everything you said is correct. Holding natural flurries for 3 icicles guarantees the shatter on GS, and a lot of times your brainfreeze procs end up being used at 2 or 3 icicles since you were spending fof before starting a frostbolt -> flurry.
@aeryluna
10 ай бұрын
@@Manather Tyvm as always
@heraxella
9 ай бұрын
Quick question, why glacial spike into flurry and not the other way around? does glacial spike not benefit from winter's chill?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
because glacial spiking into flurry still benefits from winters chill. Flurry combo section should be clear on why.
@outlawjerry
11 ай бұрын
@manather if I don't have teir set as yet. Does the 2 target rotation still count? Especially on council fight
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
yes
@markoilic8375
4 ай бұрын
do u spend flury on 2 stacks or 1 if u have only 1 stack and brain freeze proc or u save it to shatter glacial spike?
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
Just use it if you have it.
@yeezus5116
3 ай бұрын
Thanks, best video for frost that i found
@GeorgMaUlWurf
10 ай бұрын
when I cast clacial spike into flurry my glacial spike does not crit and I have 2 stacks of winters chill remaining. do I need a certain speed cap for the combo to work?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
Having 2 stacks of winters chill remaining is how it is supposed to work, no special interaction just dont be overly close to the mob when doing this. Also its not a guaranteed crit, just a much higher chance. Make sure you are queuing your flurry by spam pressing it at the end of the glacial spike cast.
@illegitimateg567
10 ай бұрын
Should I focus to craft a gear right now since I haven't touched M+ or Normal Raids? Just heroic dungeons and LFR
@ZoulmanHD
11 ай бұрын
Hello! Thanks a lot for the video it helped me understand a lot of the core rotation. However I still have a small question regarding Glacial Spike. It might just be me being absolute trash still but I sometimes happen to have 5 Icicles and no Flurry/Winter's Chill ready. Should I hold onto my 5 icicles until I can apply Flurry or do I cast Glacial Spike on cd? Please help!
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
cast Glacial Spike on cd
@ZoulmanHD
11 ай бұрын
@@Manather Thank you so much, that solves a lot of headaches!
@eros5045
11 ай бұрын
Hello mate, until I get my 2piece or 4 piece, should I play the exact same I've been playing in 10.1.5? Atleast in keys. Or something changes without tier aswell?
@eros5045
11 ай бұрын
I meant 10.1.7
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
only changes with 2 pc, but this have a minor effect on gameplay prior to 2 pc so might be good to get into the habit of doing them
@AfrikanWifi
9 ай бұрын
I have a question about brain freeze. If i get back to back brain freeze procs with nothing up. Do i just send both of them?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
No, you want to consume your winters chill prior to sending another flurry. Brain freeze itself essentially doesnt matter, its all about flurry usage rather than the buff.
@Abstrack05
9 ай бұрын
You helped me with increase my dps by a lot! I was listening tot he wowhead guide that stated to never cast a glacial spike unless you can shatter it. Now I’m spamming glacial and shatter when I can and I’m pumping! Thank you! Is flurry stronger than FoF? If I’m casting frostbolt and have brain freeze then FoF procs, should I cancel casting? Or finish and waste FoF on winter chills?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
Never cancel casts, its the worst thing you can do in wow generally speaking since it introduces dead time to our rotation, same as moving poorly. Flurry is stronger than fof, but we only prioritize it if we are currently casting a spell, so we dont overcap them.
@jamesizatt5170
11 ай бұрын
came back a second time to re-watch the part about embellishments cause i couldnt remember why you said wrists were the best place to put one of them. but i couldnt find a timestamp, did that part get cut ?
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, they nerfed sporecloak so it was inaccurate. Atm just go 2x Shadowflame again. Later in the tier we will likely transition those pieces to blue silken lining, but they use the same base item.
@KevsShwaShwa
10 ай бұрын
So essentially, if you want to cast flurry make sure you don’t have winter’s chill on target, and make sure you are casting glacial spike or frostbolt into the flurry? Is this correct?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
Yes
@cjsworld69
9 ай бұрын
May be an odd question. But what’s the general ST rotation after opener? I’m good at that, spiking well. But then I run out of dps and icicle generation….
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
The st commentary section should be good for that, shows quite a lot of tome post opener
@jamesizatt5170
10 ай бұрын
Now that we're a few weeks into the season, are there any dungeons specifically that you'd recommend running the Splintering Cold/Frostbite (Freezable) build on?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
on fort weeks subzero/frostbite can be pretty good in ataldazar and DHT, pretty much everything is freezable in both those dungeons.
@Dwragon.
11 ай бұрын
What is the opener for the AoE/m+ build BUT on a single target?
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
same as normal except without ray
@aeryluna
11 ай бұрын
Big fan of those graphics compared to prio lists with tons of conditionals
@arminplatzer1802
11 ай бұрын
Eehhh finally
@elcabron911
10 ай бұрын
Do i use double time warp (BL) at once or am i gonna wait with the second timewarp until my next icy veins/trinket/ brust phase?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
wait for 2nd TW till next icy veins
@TheRunner3D
4 ай бұрын
hey man, best guide learned frost in 2 days to an acceptable level. But what about ST rotation with M+ talents? i have problem with all the fof procs from frozen orb/blizz.. should i stack fof with winters chill on ice lances or rather do ice lance after i spent winters chill on other stuff
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
St rotation doesnt change in m+ talents, its fine to spend fof into winters chill
@TheRunner3D
4 ай бұрын
@@Manather tyvm sir
@danielcockfieldii794
10 ай бұрын
I'm a little confused on the ST prio with flurry. It says "if no brainfreeze, hold for 3 icicles". Are we not supposed to use it after a frostbolt with only 1 or 2 icicles?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
With a natural flurry you want to hold it till you have 3 icicles, which generally means using it after a frostbolt where you have 2 icicles while casting frostbolt
@extremegaming9045
5 ай бұрын
So praticaly you must freeze the mobs that are freezeble.. i done that any time in dungeon the litle problem is that any abbility of the other players take out the freeze of the mobs .. so my question is they still get the debuff of being freeze? so you can benefit in crit with other spells? thank you. :)
@Manather
5 ай бұрын
Freezes last for a minimum of 1s, if you are using them correctly thats all you need.
@phatlokki
10 ай бұрын
dont u want to flurry b4 GS so it crits? frost mage is tough man. im really trying to learn to up my dps. mind helping me out?
@cascade4661
11 ай бұрын
whats the gear youre using? you link doesnt work for me at least
@bobostrum1194
9 ай бұрын
Wow...no wonder hand me my butt on a silver platter...great info!! What are you using for your hud displays? Is that WA?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
yep its WAs, the link is in the description for the import
@bobostrum1194
9 ай бұрын
Thanks I figured that dumb question...sorry..@@Manather
@W0WShaneEV
10 ай бұрын
is there a reason we use GS followed by a flurry, im finding that GS > Flurry doesnt consume the winters chill debuff. is it just to get the ice charges to keep the roation flowing?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
it consumes a winters chill that is refreshed by subsequent flurry hits. It is shattering the GS.
@Tkzlol
11 ай бұрын
This might be the first tier in a while that you can actually play frost mage on progression
@userphilman
11 ай бұрын
Hey. New budding frost main here. Sorry for the noob question. How come we need to try do Ray of frost with one winter chill left?
@haggyhey1181
10 ай бұрын
Ray of Frost takes around 4s, while winter chill stays 6s. So one winter chill would run out of time while casting ray of frost
@1606Tino
8 ай бұрын
@manather is there an Option in threatplates that shows me if Mobs are freezable or not ?
@Manather
8 ай бұрын
not that I know of, I made a plater script that shows it that you can find in my recent videos
@TheGaudente
10 ай бұрын
Hi ty for video. I had just a 2 questions,one about furry, if i have to delay it till gs can beneficiate of it or use if proc at first/second fb?Second is about trinkets if we want always maximize mastery and play with trinkets that grant it or use intellect/versa trinkets (simcraft rate them better).ty
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
Use procs on first/second FB yes. We don't always use mastery trinkets, if you want only one on-use this tier your best combination would likely be Belor'relos and Augury of the Primal Flame for instance.
@TheGaudente
10 ай бұрын
ty @@Manather
@sketchyx8307
9 ай бұрын
Hey I'm not sure you'll see this...but how come for ST and those scenarios we don't save flurry for before glacial spike so we can shatter? How come we do flurry into two ice lanes and then glacial spike?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
We save natural ones, but we generate so many you lose too many casts holding a brainfreexe
@quak3rx
11 ай бұрын
If you are fighting a pack in Which the primary target is unfreezable but the other ones are, do you flurry + freeze or no?
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
there is a whole section of the video dedicated to this topic, but yes
@nickboris1111
4 ай бұрын
AT 25:53 you said you would "freeze" what spell are you saying you froze with in that moment?
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
I was saying I would shatter it with an ice nova, because freeze wasnt available (the shatter spell from your water elemental).
@nickboris1111
4 ай бұрын
im using the wow analyzier and i keep scoring terrible on pre cast utilization of shatter. I dont know what im doing wrong. im using frostbolt or spike into flurry.. maybe im standing too close?
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
@@nickboris1111 If you drop your log that you are using for wowanalyzer here or in the mage discord you should be able to get an answer
@nickboris1111
4 ай бұрын
@@Manather that would be amazing im enjoying it and im new . where is the mage discord I dont see it under your video anywhere?
@Manather
4 ай бұрын
@@nickboris1111 its not my discord, just the general one for mages in WoW, though I am a part of it, the link to join it is here and you can also find it on class guides on wowhead - discord.gg/alteredtime
@khmarabroona
10 ай бұрын
does frozen orb stack? Is it ok to send out 2 at a time or should I wait for the first one to expire before sending the second?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
yes its possible to have several out doing dmg at once
@khmarabroona
10 ай бұрын
thank you! @@Manather
@jangodev6768
11 ай бұрын
Why is the perfect combo explained at 4:54 glacial spike -> flurry -> cst -> ice lance -> ray of frost. When you cast ray all winter chills are already consumed and ray is not shattering?
@LuvYaMin
11 ай бұрын
Glacial Spike and flurry combo work like this : the 3 hit of flurry give you 3 WC. But you can only have 2 on a mob. But the Glacial Spike travel faster then the second hit of flurry so it consume it. Kinda work like this : flurry 1 hit WC applied, GS hit consume WC, flurry 2 and 3 hit and stack 2 WC on target. Then Cst doesn't consume your WC, ice lance consume 1 of the 2 left and then RoF doesn't consume one but since there is 1 active on the mob you get the bonus of WC. Idk if I explained it right haha but gl !
@jangodev6768
11 ай бұрын
@@LuvYaMin Thank you. You explained it really well. Now it makes sense to me
@speedy4113
10 ай бұрын
This was nice guide, just restarting wow account and i feel better with this guide. Do you have a guide with al your macro's and keybind you use in the game?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
I don't, macros arent really that big of a thing to have as frost aside from removing the reticle on blizzard and freeze. Keybinds are personal preference but you can see all mine during the gameplay sections of this video.
@lj3256
10 ай бұрын
I started playing my mage again for the first time since shadowlands so I havent crafted anything yet. Still stack shadowflames for M+/raid? Also heard the silken mastery patch and Amice of the Blue shoulders are just as viable now depending on uptime, but haven't seen a lot of data to compare everything yet. Thanks for your videos theyre very helpful!
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
If you’re planning to do mostly m+/heroic raid I’d craft blue silken lining. More raid and I’d craft shadowflame.
@Hoti-ta
9 ай бұрын
Can you show your macros, like ice veins trinket if exists or mb i see two cone of cold. ty
@dionmcneice24
10 ай бұрын
Do you run the same builds for both tyrannical and fortified.
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
generally speaking yes
@MetalAndor
10 ай бұрын
What do you do if you have glacial spike ready but no flurrys available? Wait or send it without?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
send
@Malavander
10 ай бұрын
Switched to mage recently and I see Frost simming a decent bit higher, but logs are heavy Arcane for this raid. Just curious why that is... Are people just comfy with it from previous tiers or does it just line up better on most fights?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
its meta so a lot more people are playing it, and it lines up well for several fights. Frost is still quite good on multiple raid bosses (over arcane even) and fully viable on all of them.
@maggieynwa
11 ай бұрын
Are you using a @target macro for blizzard or @cursor? Great guide! ❤
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
@cursor, I don't believe @target works for ground targeted abilities at this time
@cuddleslol
11 ай бұрын
Here it is! Thanks so much
@sywsmusic
10 ай бұрын
quick question that i havent been able to figure out.. why is it that sometimes when i have 2 icicles and casting frostbolt for the third into flurry to get 5 for glacial spike, sometimes flurry only procs 1 icicle making it 4?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
flurry naturally only procs 1 icicle, having more is rng
@eliherstik8500
10 ай бұрын
which talent build do you recommend for raids?
@eliherstik8500
10 ай бұрын
for your M+ build do you ever recommend not taking the glacial assault talent and instead taking cryopathy, chain reaction, or frostbite (with subzero)? i see glacial assault on every single build and curious if you've ever simmed without it
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
It is a very high value talent point, I would never drop it. Most of the talents you mentioned are much weaker in certain or all situations than it.
@eliherstik8500
10 ай бұрын
thanks for the reply@@Manather
@duenorth4535
9 ай бұрын
took a year off.... where do you get the water elemental from?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
Spawns when you use icy veins
@haggyhey1181
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensive guide. I dont unterstand the flurry holing till 3 icicles: Is it, that if we have 1 icicle and we have brainfreeze proc we flurry after FB, but if we have 1 icicle and we have no brainfreeze proc, just natural flurry, we hold flurry, spam FB till we have 3 icicle and FB>flurry>GS?
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
technically frostbolting with 2 icicles counts as 3. But yes you are correct.
@haggyhey1181
10 ай бұрын
@@Manather Ah, wow, I didnt know that FB at 2 Icicles counts as 3. Tested it and it makes sense with guaranteed shattered GS (and sometimes icicle proc). So the decision to hold a flurry after a FB will be only at one icicle. Great! Now I can squeeze some little more dps out, ty!
@barangunes6301
10 ай бұрын
Quite new to WoW so all of these rotations and stuff are quite complicating for me, at the moment I'm just using Hekili addon is that a good addon to use for rotations or not
@Manather
10 ай бұрын
it doesnt help you learn the rotation and isnt fully accurate, it will also teach you to watch it which distracts from mechanics and such occurring. Personally I'd just try getting used to the default combo for frost (the shatter combo) and then working to incorporate more spells later. In ST this means practicing a Frostbolt -> Flurry -> 2 Ice Lances, and in AOE it means keeping blizzard and orb on cooldown while using ice lance with fingers of frost or after flurry.
@barangunes6301
10 ай бұрын
@@Manather At the moment I'm only level 16 or 17 so I haven't unlocked all the spells required in combo I think I'm just gonna use hekili till I get all the required spells then learn the rotation and get rid of Hekili.
@jamesgailey8609
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Very well done! Question for ya - what WeakAura do you use for the icicle counter bar in the middle of your UI ?
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
I exported afenars icicles wago.io/Fp6YDrZ4O
@aeryluna
11 ай бұрын
Ty for content mr manather ❤
@Janderspferreira
11 ай бұрын
Please, help me sir. You say: "What follows are import codes for Shadowed Unit Frames and Plater. Bartender can't be exported but I included the base blizzard UI import which is set up much the same. " But I can't import PLATER. And how u import that "ui blizard"? Can't figured out. Ty u in advance. Great work!
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
the plater import is a bit tricky since it goes very far to the right and then has some short lines under it, just ensure you copied only the import for plater and captured all of it and it will work. As for the base blizzard ui, if you open edit mode in game you can import those settings.
@a.a.6464
5 ай бұрын
I dont understand 😂
@lubomirtomanec7587
11 ай бұрын
On ST rotation, why are you not using flurry after glacial everytime?
@warlyx7653
11 ай бұрын
check 3:35 it explains it the point 7 , GS to consume the last WC from flurry
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
Either because A) I dont have flurry, or B) the target still has winters chill which does the same thing as queuing a flurry.
@justine8635
9 ай бұрын
are the addons not on cursedforge?
@wintertale.
11 ай бұрын
Is there any way to simc against freezable targets? when I simc, subzero and frostbite talents are useless, am I wrong?
@Manather
11 ай бұрын
you can change the targets to target dummy (but the sims without raidbufs) or you can put target_level=70 in the custom simc lines section
@markhamelink2913
9 ай бұрын
Love the guide. I have the staff + trinket from nymue. How and where to use it optimally?
@Manather
9 ай бұрын
Both on cd, for the trinket delay your ray/cms till 2nd flurry. So opener is Frb -> flurry -> nymues trinket -> IV -> 2x IL
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