Spock sticking up for his mother, and then talking to her about the real memory that was shared: that Amanda was happy for him, even while -- simultaneously -- the other Vulcan mothers rejected her. That was my Latinum Up.
@GSBarlev
Жыл бұрын
I legitimately cried. Bawled like a freshly orphaned Tellarite 😭
@backpacker3421
Жыл бұрын
Same. That legit made me tear up.
@NeuroD369
Жыл бұрын
And to tell the truth that it would be (seen as) mundane, but hide the complexity to be shared later with the only person who deserved it. Spock got it.
@bbbabrock
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I didn't like this episode particularly. But I did like the bits focusing on Stock's relationship with his mom, particularly that scene.
@ficialintelligence1869
Жыл бұрын
@@bbbabrock This was a "cute" episode. It's got a heavy "The Original Series" vibe to it. My favorite thus far is: "Per aspera ad astra".
@ericflint1081
Жыл бұрын
Oh, when Amanda explained the meaning of the memory she shared, and that it did not matter that she was shunned, only that he was accepted, then remembering what she told Spock while showing him how to make the tea: "If there is one thing I have learned while living on Vulcan it is how to suppress my own pain." Oh. The hits deep.
@KnightRaymund
Жыл бұрын
it's so sad. She must REALLY love Sarek.
@elonwong
Жыл бұрын
@@KnightRaymundand Spock for that matter
@Mrseancouture
Жыл бұрын
Huge miss Sean on the beanie. Obvious reference to the fact in several episodes the beanie was how Spock hid his Vulcan ears and now gets to hide his human ears.
@Insanemage2001
Жыл бұрын
Or possibly the toque was an homage to shooting in Toronto. I imagine everyone could use a warm hat on occasion.
@peteprime
Жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of the "mechanical rice picker" excuse from "City on the edge of forever. "
@jessetaggart5573
Жыл бұрын
Toque or beanie it is definitely a nod to the blue one Spock wore in "City on the Edge of Forever" & possibly the grey one he wore in “Assignment: Earth”. Though I could see a Toronto homage as an extra layer of meaning too.
@pookhahare
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to have forgotten that Spock in several episodes wore some version of a beanie in tos. With most fashionable in Assignment Earth.
@wahn10
Жыл бұрын
That's a latinum down for this episode of Ups & Downs, unfortunately. I was shocked Sean missed it.
@Blasted2Oblivion
Жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite thing is the super whipped Father. Watching him show uncharacteristic excitement about things only to immediately back off of it when T'Prill spoke up was amusing. His appreciation for food was also something I can really relate to.
@mikes5637
Жыл бұрын
He is EXACTLY like my mate Rob with his wife. 😅
@Carstuff111
Жыл бұрын
As the wife tries to exude Vulcan perfection, the husband just wanted to enjoy really good food and get to know new people. It was awesome to watch :)
@kev30631
Жыл бұрын
And very un-vulcan.
@teenprez
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! All the interactions with T'Pring's parents were hilarious.
@CommanderJeph
Жыл бұрын
Up for the "hi Mom" Spock gives Amanda in the transporter room. It really came across with the feeling that many of us have felt I think, that "mom's here, she's gonna fix this, everything's going to be fine now".
@bemasaberwyn55
Жыл бұрын
Good god his delivery is IMMACULATE
@karlsmith2570
Жыл бұрын
The fact they'd gotten Mia Kirschner to reprise her role of Amanda from Star Trek:Discovery makes me wonder if they'll have James Frain reprising his role of Sarek
@YumLemmingKebabs
Жыл бұрын
What's that like?
@bozhijak
Жыл бұрын
When my mom met my first 'boyfriend'. Verbatim
@DannyNapolitano
Жыл бұрын
The interactions between Spock and Amanda made me cry and miss my mom. I loved this episode for giving me a moment to thing about her.
@robmaher42
Жыл бұрын
Surely Spock's beanie is a reference to The City on the Edge of Forever.
@STormnNormn2027
Жыл бұрын
One of the many ear and eyebrow coverups seen throughout Star Trek. I got Voyage Home vibes too.
@francisschweitzer8431
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@JB-1138
Жыл бұрын
Repeated again in Enterprise. 🖖🏻
@jctrame
Жыл бұрын
All true but more likely Sean throwing in some humor of his own to see who picks up on it.
@chehammond4872
Жыл бұрын
I came here to say this 👆🏾
@Sully365
Жыл бұрын
Bravo to Ethan Peck. He just completely showed his acting chops with the switch from human to vulcan and back and ...dang, just good
@mgscheue
Жыл бұрын
And human trying to act Vulcan. It was really good.
@kev30631
Жыл бұрын
Ethan peck is 37. There were times his performance was 16 year old teenager.😂 It was ridiculously over the top in some spots.
@quantisedspace7047
Жыл бұрын
Yes, and totally consistent with his 'The Women !" screech in The Cage.
@Carstuff111
Жыл бұрын
@@kev30631 So, did you forget what it is like to go through puberty or just be a teenager in general? His body went through a huge change....This was perfectly spot on. Being 100% human was totally new.
@Carstuff111
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was impressive how he and Gia Sandhu played each other's characters last season. But this, just, wow!
@stephentully7883
Жыл бұрын
Loved this episode too. Surprised you didn't mention Chapel telling Vulcan interviewer what she just did and that he can read her paper in a few months.. and that the fellowship isn't ready for her. The reaction and look on his face was priceless.
@Jasminian626
Жыл бұрын
Glad I’m not the only one who was surprised he didn’t talk about it. I thought he would have been enthused by her rejecting them, then saying “you can read it in my paper”
@c.a.nixiii4650
Жыл бұрын
That was powerful and perfect!
@heatherfyffe3618
Жыл бұрын
Well he kind of did. He doesn't quote the scene but he says something like "chapel gives him a big f-u", and that's clearly what he's referring to.
@stephentully7883
Жыл бұрын
@@heatherfyffe3618 Just watched this entire review again and still didn't see that reference.
@heatherfyffe3618
Жыл бұрын
@@stephentully7883 Bizarre. I can't find it either now but I have a SPECIFIC memory of seeing it!
@Steelebourne
Жыл бұрын
You forgot a HUGE part. When Spock's mother finally realizes something's up, and tells him to take off the beanie, he says "Hi Mom" sounding so embarrassed and ashamed. That was spectacular.
@geekishgir
11 ай бұрын
Sean missed the teenage temper tantrum Spock threw which twigged his mom to tell him to take off the beanie, that was my up from that scene
@RabidOtaku
Жыл бұрын
"I'm going to teach you how to lie, and the Captain is going to help me." "Do I have a choice?" "No." Loved it.
@gaileverett
Жыл бұрын
And the look on Pike's face when he heard that!
@shaneblackburn8910
Жыл бұрын
Funniest episode of SNW yet.
@antney7745
Жыл бұрын
"Do I have a choice?" "Yes." "..." "That was a lie. No you don't."
@victorpradha9946
Жыл бұрын
This underscores just how loyal Christopher Pike is towards his bridge crew AND in particular Spock. And again, it sets up how ultimately willing Pike is to endure the pains that await him to spare Spock of that same fate. I thought it interesting that we see Pike nod in affirmation as temporarily human Spock goes to hold the hot tea pot (a subtle reference to the burning that we saw Spock endure in the time crystal future view S1E10). And we see that Spock returns this loyalty by risking his Starfleet career the death sentence and subjecting Kirk to the same risk in ST TOS, The Menagerie Parts I & II.
@ragemydream
Жыл бұрын
i really liked the part when Chapel is about to talk about her feelings and asks her friends to turn around, and the reaction of 'how does that make a difference?' but obliges is very human.
@comlow1
Жыл бұрын
That is true the way she makes them turn is great. But her confession of her feelings seemed to me fell very short. If I was yellow, I would have told her to try again or no extra remediation.
@capturedsoulsphotos
Жыл бұрын
Up for Uhura being competent at her job, Una's smile of pride at Pike, and Uhura being the grounded best friend between her Ortegas and Chapel :)
@hallnall1667
Жыл бұрын
For me, the best part of the episode is the last scene with T'Pring and Spock. Gia's ability to emote her feelings without over doing it is amazing. You could feel her disappointment with Spock's decisions. Nicely done!
@arminreuter5151
Жыл бұрын
This is the exact moment when a development starts that leads up to the events in Amok Time.
@kevstubeification
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t like it when Spock chose to keep T’Pring in the dark about his condition. At first, I thought it was an immediate ‘down’ because it’s a sad trope used too often in comedies. But I like that they don’t gloss over how hurt T’Pring is by his lack of trust since she has shown great acceptance of Spock’s human differences. It’s a strong conclusion that should cast a dark shadow over whatever relationship Spock and Chapel begin.
@PeachLee858
Жыл бұрын
@@arminreuter5151 Yes, I noted that too. Their time apart and Spock's rising as a 'Legend' in Star Fleet contributed to her attraction to Stonn. I wonder if T'Pring ends up like her mother, leading Stonn around by the nose.
@Eronx
Жыл бұрын
Ahh you guys spoil to much. I have had some hope, that T’Pring and Spock could be a couple again.
@hancocki
Жыл бұрын
@@kevstubeificationI took the decision to exclude T'Pring from the game was specifically because of the mind meld with the mother. That would have been too great a risk of the cover being blown. I am fully convinced that he would have told her otherwise.
@mudman619
Жыл бұрын
just wanna say that Gia Sandhu is killing it as T'Pring. she's been fantastic. Sidenote: I think it's the 1st time they positively identified Vulcan as Eridani B - otherwise known as the exoplanet AEgir or Epsilon Eridani B, which is in the triple star system 40 Eridani. While the main star is 16.3 light years away from Earth, Eridani B is only 10.5 light years away. So the "Vulcan" system - i.e. 40 Eridani - is at least 6 light years across - so it's entirely feasible that this moon could be more than a light year from wherever the Enterprise was located.
@QuintusAntonious
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think they needed to do some Googling before issuing this criticism. Our own Solar system is about 0.5 LY, and if you include the Oort Cloud, it is almost 2 LY, and that's with one medium sized yellow star. If the Vulcan system has two or three stars, and if those stars are different size than Sol, their gravity could very possibly hold together a system bigger than a lightyear. I think we just get gobsmacked by the hugeness of space and a "lightyear" feels like an impossible distance as a result, but it's easy to forget just how big and empty space is, and just how powerful gravity of massive objects like stars can be.
@kev30631
Жыл бұрын
Gia Sandhu is stunning
@quantisedspace7047
Жыл бұрын
It might also explain how Nero's destruction of Vulcan, in /that/ timeline, could be seen from Delta Vega.
@quantisedspace7047
Жыл бұрын
@@QuintusAntoniousBy what measure is our own system half a light year. A light year is 3e8 X 3e7 metres, which is approx 10^16 metres, or ten thousand billion kilometres. The orbit of Pluto has a radius of 6000 X 10^6 km, or six billion kilometres. That is at least three orders of magnitude less.
@edjs
Жыл бұрын
I think you're confusing Epsilon Eridani B (star 10.5 ly from Sol) with 40 Eridani B (companion of 40 Eridani A, orbiting it at ~400 au).
@BigGP100
Жыл бұрын
The Beanie was not a reference to the Spock helmet, but to how a Beanie is the go-to for hiding Vulcan ears from humans in any time travel episode. It is now used to hide human ears from Vulcans.
@southpaw7426
Жыл бұрын
Especially in “The City on the Edge of Forever”.
@durchhalter
Жыл бұрын
@@southpaw7426 And in the ENT episode "Carbon Creek"
@NathanWeeks
Жыл бұрын
In addition to Spock's beanie being a reference to The City on the Edge of Forever ... I felt like Chapel's rapid fire question and answer prep for the Vulcan interview was a reference to The Voyage Home where Spock is answering questions from multiple terminals simultaneously.
@DawnieAngel11
Жыл бұрын
My 1st thought as well was The City on the Edge of Forever...same color. Also looked so much like Nimoy!!
@dandavenport4565
Жыл бұрын
I had the same thought, a nice twist, covering his human ears this time
@angus987
Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this.
@davidday6822
Жыл бұрын
My first thought exactly! Cant believe they didn't reference it.
@AshuraH
Жыл бұрын
The door incident with Pike has a punchline - once everything gets revealed, *the door opens again*
@gamerofthesith5275
Жыл бұрын
I liked how the Vulcan ritual was kind of like Festivus with the airing of grievances. 😅
@Browncoat66
Жыл бұрын
"Stella! I'm going to get the pole down from the crawl space!" 🤣
@nata3467
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Trelane574
Жыл бұрын
One difference: the aluminum pole is that weapon from Amok Time.
@aileensmith7716
Жыл бұрын
My two main ups were (1) Ethan Peck's suppressed angry face when T'Pril is providing her Creating Awaereness to Spock. His eyes were bulging and I was sure he was going to explode. It was amazing to behold. And (2) when Anson Mount does his version of the Grandpa Simpson in and out .gif when Spock does his human reveal. Pure gold. This is by far the best episode yet.
@jessetaggart5573
Жыл бұрын
I really like T'Pring's father, Sevet. Definitely has not undergone the Kolinahr, I can see why he would be friends with the younger Sarek that fell in love with a Human. Gives me Romulan northerner, like Zhaban, vibes though.
@Aezetyr
Жыл бұрын
The actor even resembled Zhaban I thought. He was great.
@GSBarlev
Жыл бұрын
Sevet explains a lot about T'Pring. We saw during her body-swap episode that she's actually a really chill, open-minded badass, and I love how much _SNW_ is fleshing out her character.
@jaives
Жыл бұрын
glad he's likable here considering a lot of people didn't like him in The Expanse. He replaced a major character's husband (used to be Brian George - Raj's dad in BBT).
@HermanVonPetri
Жыл бұрын
@@jaives Bringing things full circle a bit, Brian George also played Dr. Bashir's father on DS9.
@nancyomalley6286
Жыл бұрын
Sevet was totally chill. T'Prill, on the other hand, OMG! Shades of Cirilla, Martok's wife in DS9's "You Are Cordially Invited"!
@HammondEggar32
Жыл бұрын
For me the scene of the show was Spock’s facial change when he got his “vitamins.” Brilliant piece of acting.
@wardka
Жыл бұрын
WHY doesn't Chapel let him finish the sentence though? I was yelling at the screen at that point.
@titanjakob1056
Жыл бұрын
@@wardkabecause it would’ve hurt more if he did and she didn’t want get between both Spock and Tpring (also the fact that time was running short so she had no choice)
@Aezetyr
Жыл бұрын
Are we going to get a scene with Spock screaming "WE WERE ON A BREAAAAAAK!"?
@mmmnice2364
Жыл бұрын
I also immediately clocked this potential "Friends" moment. They looked like they were having so much fun in this episode. I hope there is an out-take somewhere that will be released someday 😂
@wendyheatherwood
Жыл бұрын
He'll raise his voice 0.00001 decibel while saying it and then immediately apologise for shouting when T'Pring looks very (very) mildly surprised.
@dagranhadsgaming5788
Жыл бұрын
One Easter egg you missed was in the scene when Spock hugged Chapel. He said "You seemed like you needed it." I caught that as a reference to the TNG episode when Data kissed the girl and said "you seemed to need it."
@MarisaP1978
Жыл бұрын
That thought occured to me too.
@MrARock001
Жыл бұрын
It didn't occur to me until now, but do you suppose T'pring's father was depicted so affably (and perhaps you might say "humanly") in order to suggest an explanation as to why T'pring herself is attracted to the more human-Spock?
@allthingsnerd.4484
Жыл бұрын
“Girls marry guys that are like their fathers”.😁
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
Жыл бұрын
That's a very good observation. It's been said that many daughters look for husbands who exhibit some of the traits the daughters appreciate in their dads.
@colonelquack
Жыл бұрын
Freud strikes again.
@generalilbis
Жыл бұрын
And I also wonder if the events of this episode planted the seed of worry in the mind of T'Pring about the two of them becoming like her own parents, in that Spock could choose to subsume himself for her benefit to avoid putting her in Amanda's position of being treated poorly because she loves him.
@biggles258
Жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmmm [strokes beard]
@kaboombox1581
Жыл бұрын
Sevet seems like the most pleasantly social Vulcan. Henpecked, but, very pleasant. Vulcans like to perpetuate a mystique about themselves, but seeing their family dynamics are much closer to human than they would ever let on.
@WilliamHostman
Жыл бұрын
Sevet would be fun to take to a smorgasbord, at least sans T'pril. He clearly seeks novel experiences.
@elliotblabla
Жыл бұрын
Not only was he pleasant - he seemed downright emotional in places, giving out little ‘ooh’s when Pike served some more food.
@victorpradha9946
Жыл бұрын
Pitch perfect delivery by Sevet. He's eager to meet new people, engage in exchanges that enrich, but is unfortunately held back by the Vulcan embodiment of a Karen!
@Beohun
Жыл бұрын
@@victorpradha9946He was living the Vulcan credo of IDIC: Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations
@victorpradha9946
Жыл бұрын
@@Beohun 💯 "The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity." "And the ways our differences combine to create meaning and beauty."
@MrTbk1701
Жыл бұрын
When Spock goes to the bathroom and totally flips out is my favorite part. We have all been in a situation where we have to keep decorum but someone is right on our last nerve and we really can’t do anything about it. On a personal note I always think of bathrooms as a sanctuary. It is the only place you can be truly alone and let it all out (no pun intended but it works) 🖖
@whysoserious8666
Жыл бұрын
Does the Enterprise have bathrooms has always been a thing. Now we know!!
@tetravega567
Жыл бұрын
@@whysoserious8666 And knowing is half the battle! ✊
@DartyVic
Жыл бұрын
This entire episode was so beautifully written and portrayed to show how when you are in a dominant culture but have parts of your intersectionality that are marginalized that how much people have to hide themselves or mask themselves in order to fit in. I'm really glad that they allowed Spock to show different sides of his intersectionality.
@yophotodude7693
Жыл бұрын
They talked about T’pring’s dress in the aftershow Ready Room, and it is an incredible costume. It’s just regal. You don’t notice it as much on the first watching but WOW! It was a really good episode.
@--Animal--
Жыл бұрын
THAT'S WHAT I SAID! glad someone else noticed. Kudos to the custom designer.
@CRanapia
Жыл бұрын
Co-signed - but when doesn't the costume department on SNW bring their A-game? Love the way they keep bringing the smart and considered call-backs to TOS without being camp or, let's be honest, dated in the worse way.
@Cheebzsta
Жыл бұрын
@@CRanapia God no kidding right!? Everything about this show brings it's A game. It really is staggeringly good and completely wins over my dislike of prequels with the raw sci-fi television making talent the show consistently puts on the screen.
@jimapplebee5322
Жыл бұрын
and they also talked about how they didn't glue Spocks ears on every time in this episode, especially in the scene where he takes them off.
@richtheobald4390
Жыл бұрын
@jimapplebee5322 I happened to look at them and noticed the obvious seam thinking it was odd that make up had let that go...and then he pulled them off and I was like...Ahhhh! That's why...
@salawinborn7246
Жыл бұрын
My Latium up is for this Discovery/Strange New Worlds version of Amanda. To live among Vulcans and probably be marginalized everyday yet retaining her dignity, grace, composure, and sanity is an amazing thing to behold.
@theawesomeran7779
Жыл бұрын
Also... Spocks mom has got it going on! 🖖😍
@infamousrob08
Жыл бұрын
This episode was so good. I loved Ethan's and the cast's rapport throughout. But yeah. I smell a meme template with some guards holding back Spock and him letting the camera know he'd, just,destroy you. I loved this one.
@timothywolfman9918
Жыл бұрын
Just as I look forward to "New Star Trek Thursdays", I also look forward to the Ups and Downs episodes as well. Complete package there. And thank you so much for your insights and your remarkable observations and details you catch. Your time and efforts are very appreciated. Thank you and a huge thumbs up...or a live long and prosper as the case may be. Cheers to you.
@georgep9447
Жыл бұрын
It was one of the funniest episodes of sci-fi that I've seen in a while. Going to be interesting to see if Spock tries to use the "We were on a break" excuse for him and Chapel (cue memory of Ross trying it in Friends).
@kevstubeification
Жыл бұрын
Looks like it’s a yes, unless next week’s episode immediately follows the kiss with them pulling away from each other deciding they can’t go any further. Seems more like someone’s going to be taking a walk of shame from someone else’s quarters 👀
@victorpradha9946
Жыл бұрын
T'Pring: "Spock...perhaps my insistence that we engage in a temporary respite from our engagement and relationship was unwarrantedly premature. I would be amenable to a resumption of usual relations at the earliest opportunity available". Spock: "I wish you would have communicated your intentions in this regard to me earlier as that would have had bearing on my course of actions during the period of our mutually agreed upon disassociation." T'Pring: "I am unclear how the timing of my communications would have any bearing on your personal actions. Please elaborate." Spock: "Perhaps this discussion is better suited for when we able to meet each other in person." Christine [obliviously enters Spock's quarters without announcing herself]: "Spock...the Captain approved one day shore leave for the two of us. Let's get out of here before something comes up to keep us here." T'Pring: "I am beginning to understand what it is you meant, Spock. I see no need for further communications. You need no longer elaborate. I withdraw my request to resume our prior relations." Christine: "Ooops....I probably should have knocked first." Spock: "All the better, your rather timely entrance accomplished what I could not accomplish by words that I could not seem to form at the moment."
@mrbond59
Жыл бұрын
@@victorpradha9946 Nice, submit it as a spec script.
@QuintusAntonious
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the show will ever address how...awful...Spock has been to T'pring. He's cheating on her. Her mother was actually right in her concerns about him marrying her daughter. Yeah, arranged marriages are questionable, but Spock was always portrayed as a moral exemplar in TOS and the movies and they've kind of made him a dick here, at least to his fiancee. But sometimes people do have to have humbling moments to grow, we all make mistakes, I just hope they don't handwave it away.
@jerryhu4763
Жыл бұрын
@@victorpradha9946 I wish this is gonna be canon in SNW lol
@KatieRose927
Жыл бұрын
Watching this with my mom was emotional, hilarious, and downright amazing. She's been waiting for Spock and Chapel to kiss like that since 1967 😂
@luisneriago
Жыл бұрын
Your mom is a fan since TOS! She rocks
@carlosponte2939
Жыл бұрын
This show just keeps getting better and better. I hope it lasts a long long time.
@phillydragonfly
Жыл бұрын
Majel Barrett was Nurse Chapel and later Lwaxana Troi. I want Jess Bush to eventually play Lwaxana!
@timthompson3569
Жыл бұрын
Or voice the Enterprise computer.
@mrbond59
Жыл бұрын
Majel Barrett was also the original Number One. How about Rebecca Romijn as Lwaxana ?
@chrisjeffrey7570
Жыл бұрын
I want Jess’ Bush too
@quantisedspace7047
Жыл бұрын
I still can't get used to the fact that Number One and Christine Chapel are different persons. I would like to see some transporter-anomaly episode where they get fused into one being for a while, like Tuvix, who then gets transported to an alt timeline where she becomes Troi's mother.
@jgvillan01
Жыл бұрын
Finally, Spock's prop ears is finally in cannon as props. LOL!
@shaggy9522
Жыл бұрын
Trellium down for not mentioning the scene with Chapel and the interviewer where she said "you are not ready for me" that actually made me cheer out loud
@thisisnev
Жыл бұрын
Another Cetacean observation... Spock's beanie was also a callback to his Earth disguise is The City On The Edge Of Forever!
@MaxLaingDMP
Жыл бұрын
Yes - and another "observation" is WHY has NO ONE mentioned that the insignia (the"Delta") on Spock's hat was backwards!?!!
@alakani
Жыл бұрын
Technically that was a callback to this. Also, the hat is backwards because he won it in a fight with mirror universe Spock
@erasmusvenport8830
Жыл бұрын
Nurse Chapel giving it to the academy "maybe your not ready for me" at the end was a definite up for me
@katsarelas1947
Жыл бұрын
I liked t’prel’s husband. He’s bumbling, kinda good natured, he’d be very amicable, if not for his wife.
@yodaz101
Жыл бұрын
Dude!! If I had to live with that shrew.. I'd lose it....
@AzraelThanatos
Жыл бұрын
I think that with Una having her nature as an augment being publicly known, she's able to be more open around everyone there socially rather than risking things earlier
@chrisaskenaizer9322
Жыл бұрын
Loved the scene of the doors closing in Pike’s face. You could just feel his confusion through the screen
@mary-kittybonkers2374
Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite episode so far, I laughed so much throughout it. It was great to see the comedic skills of the main characters; the cast looked as though they were enjoying themselves. I really enjoyed the scenes with T’Pring and her family, not because her mother was so challenging as such, but because T’Pring and Sevet navigated her idiosyncrasies with such fortitude and self discipline. You said that Sevet might have some Romulan in him, well I thought that T’Pril could give the members of the Qowat Milat a run for their money with her absolute candour. I enjoyed this episode especially because it was about relationships and this was conveyed so well by the cast. However, the relationship that I was touched by the most was the one between Spock and his mother, it was so tender. I think that Spock’s enforced confrontation with his humanity finally made him understand the sacrifices, humiliations and difficulties that Amanda had endured throughout her life as a human married to a Vulcan, living on Vulcan.
@kev30631
Жыл бұрын
The lower deck crossover is going to be up for the best episode of the season.
@stueymon
Жыл бұрын
Anson Mount always knocks it out of the park with an easy charisma but this episode was something else. His expression when Spock admits he's currently human had me crying
@dougsmith6262
Жыл бұрын
I had to rewind that scene and watch it again...three times.
@Cheebzsta
Жыл бұрын
Anson Mount is so good in this show that the rest of the cast could be completely mediocre and it'd still likely be worth the time. But they're not! Everyone's so great, and he's somehow gotten even better at being THE definitive modern Star Trek captain.
@victorpradha9946
Жыл бұрын
His ..."I'm definitely not sticking around to witness the fallout of this reveal" face was perfect.
@dougsmith6262
Жыл бұрын
@@victorpradha9946 Pike opened an industrial sized can of NOPE.
@victorpradha9946
Жыл бұрын
@@dougsmith6262 Yep the kind that they'd have to special order even at Costco!
@PradoxGamerAu
Жыл бұрын
The line "Thier judgement is thier weakness, not ours" hit me super hard in the feels
@cartoonkelly7924
Жыл бұрын
I really hope we get to see more of T'Pring's father. He's fun.
@KougajiCalling
Жыл бұрын
That poor man...
@jimmyjames2022
Жыл бұрын
'Charades' is the episode where Strange New Worlds surpasses previous explorations of Spock's humanity, leaving canon just enough to explore the Chapel/Spock/Mother Amanda relationships but not so much as to be implausibly off canon. I love Nimoy's and Quinto's portrayals but I love that this episode really lets Ethan Peck nail Spock's dual nature.
@ScopeGuardPony
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that "What the f---" line threw down the gauntlet saying "This is gonna be a good one."
@Cally.Summer
Жыл бұрын
The only way that could have been improved would have been after the credits cut back to sickbay with Spock saying "...uck?"
@joeljezequel
Жыл бұрын
When I was a teenager, Spock was my favorite character because I was also unable to express my emotions. This episode was perfect to remind me of all these feelings, and in addition very funny, I loved it
@romeyroe
Жыл бұрын
This is the one show that I wish would have more episodes a season. This show just does the most excellent job of capturing TOS's spirit and feel. This was another great episode. They consistently knocks it out of the every week.
@erich2385
Жыл бұрын
I agree, this show is phenomenal! With so little good shows out there I'm going to be starving again soon.
@Rutabaga64
Жыл бұрын
I totally share your enthusiams for this episode, Sean, it was such a brilliant mix of hilarity and family love. Definitely my favorite episode of this season so far and of ther series overall.
@theredheadproject
Жыл бұрын
Pike's wraparound in this episode wasn't the same as the one he wore in Season 1. This version was an upgrade for me, beautiful.
@jpisello
Жыл бұрын
The one in Season 1 fit so poorly. I'm glad they took another shot at it. This one was much better.
@lgoamity
Жыл бұрын
Totally Agree with the Spock/Kirk "I will break you" moment... Hopefully this moment will be repeated/called back to in future episodes.
@jeff37801mf
Жыл бұрын
I started to wonder with Yellow and Blue characters as maybe a link to The Gamesters of Triskelion. Also loosely resembles part of The Cage when the rebuilt the girl with no idea what she should look like.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the current exchange rate is for quatloos.
@richtheobald4390
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the colours themselves are a reference to current events
@TheMsLourdes
Жыл бұрын
Loved the episode and I love how they are totally teeing up for Tpring in TOS to have exactly every reason to hate spock and want him dead so she can marry Stonn... in fact, I am desperately hoping that the next time we see Tpring, that Stonn makes an appearance just in the background :) As for the rest of the episode, I loved it, I adored Anson's antics in the background.. masterful ! and I loved the sweetness of really fleshing out Amanda as a character and her hardships adapting to vulcan life as well as her high points being wehn spock was asked to play for the first time. just, as a mom, lovvvvvved it.
@carolynclink8443
Жыл бұрын
We did see Stonn in the first season -- but yes, let's see him again as well as Sybok.
@richtheobald4390
Жыл бұрын
Anson Mount, to my mind, is definitely an actor's actor in that he works beautifully in the background to enhance the performance of his cast mates who are in the fore this show. Just brilliant.
@grahamcann1761
Жыл бұрын
As always thank you so very much for the videos. And if I may give a shout out to a dear friend of mine, who's battling Brain Cancer right now. This is for Jim Van Over, a friend of mine who, with our group went to see "Wrath of Kahn" at it's first screening at our local theater, and who a few years later would start working at ILM. And whose name may be found in many of the Star Trek shows and movies credits. (Note: If you're seeing James or Jim Van Over, it might not be him, it could be Jr.... who I used to bounce on my knee as a toddler... yeah I'm old.)
@jpwphoenix1701
Жыл бұрын
I loved this episode and laughed a lot too! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who laughed a lot at Pike's reactions throughout the episode too, especially with the doors closing on him as he's trying to escape.
@LeftyStratPlayer
Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice Spock's "Napoleon Dynamite" moment in his voice when he yelled at his mother? All that was missing was the "gosh" at the end of his rant.
@GSBarlev
Жыл бұрын
I loved how her reaction was to go, "Take off the beanie, Spock." Went full Jewish mother on that one.
@kev30631
Жыл бұрын
Very cringe 😬
@davetoms1
Жыл бұрын
For the distance issue 17:30 they did say the moon was in the Vulcan _sector_ but I didn't catch them say the Vulcan _system._ The system usually means solar system, as in planets orbiting a Star. But "sector" - I think - usually means an area that may contain multiple stars, multiple solar systems, which could be light years apart.
@sptnk021
Жыл бұрын
Also at 17:29 the reference to no signal further than one light year isn't about the size of the sector or system, but the interferences of the anomaly. Enterprise could be a mile a way, but they can't get a signal out, but maybe it might be able to get further out. I don't know how their communications work.
@kondaments
Жыл бұрын
My only thought is why havent the Vulcans studied this further themselves if its in their neck of the woods? I mean, wouldnt this be intersting the them as well? I thought they would have been there in an instant if there was 1st contact with a species on their doorstep....
@Grevlain
Жыл бұрын
LOVE the show. LOVE the crew. And is it me....or is Chapel getting hotter by the episode? OH!! - you did not mention the reveal that Spock had moved the shields to protect Chapel. That GOT me in the feels. I love those kind of secret gestures that happen to come out later. Genius writing.
@Aezetyr
Жыл бұрын
The first scene with Chapel and the Vulcan Science Institute Guy felt like a meta commentary about Trek and the complex relationship to its fans. While the syntax (this being aesthetic, story choices and direction) is different, the heart and the meaning are the same. I also wanted to say that they did a great job casting Mia Kirshner as Amanda. Not only is she very talented, experienced and beautiful she also (to me) resembles Jane Wyatt who originated the role in 'Journey to Babel'.
@GSBarlev
Жыл бұрын
Also Chapel even got her own "eff off and prosper" line--and to the Vulcan Science Academy, no less!
@tylorgovero2256
Жыл бұрын
This episode was great and nearly had me in tears because of the connection between spock and his mother
@michaelwilson6480
Жыл бұрын
Oh no joke. When he was defending her, I was sobbing.
@CJayI
Жыл бұрын
Honestly loved this episode. Me and my dad had a good laugh over some of the scenes hahaha.
@SylvrHawk
Жыл бұрын
Another outstanding episode. Like Star Trek Lower Decks, the writers of Strange New Worlds have a deep love of this franchise.
@MrMann0123
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Plus the TOS music stings too. "Speaking of Luxwaxana, sort of" I see what you did there!
@scruffopone3989
Жыл бұрын
This was a fabulous episode, I love hijinks episodes they're wonderful but I especially love that they also delivered real emotional pathos. Also I love AR Walls for giving actors and editors the ability to work better with their environment.
@The10folks
Жыл бұрын
They mention Roger Korby in the episode? That was a big up for me.
@riecejoynes1681
Жыл бұрын
I think that final scene between Spock and Nurse Chapel was just so satisfying. It was a long time coming from S1 and the chemistry between the characters is mesmerising. If they end up in some sort of secret relationship, I wouldn't have a problem with that
@mmcfacialhair
Жыл бұрын
It would have been even more satisfying if they hadn’t made the blizzard decision to put that scene in the trailer for the season
@joerider3769
Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't think they would do it! I was like, H**L, YEAH!!!
@dbcanada
Жыл бұрын
The kiss. ❤ Spock: "What does this mean?" Chapel: "I don't know. Shut up." ❤
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
Жыл бұрын
I don't why, but I found that closing exchange to be the most delightful part of the entire episode.
@distractionsinthewind9976
Жыл бұрын
They're no downs, only ups. Best funny fun episode ever! Now the Spock and Chapel connection really makes so much sense carrying over to original series and also trying so hard not to allow his feeling for Christine to resurface.
@WilliamHostman
Жыл бұрын
If only Lower Decks were as funny...
@idontwannaidontwanna7307
Жыл бұрын
@@WilliamHostmanwhat is it about the show that doesn't work for you? Do you find it nodding to the audience a little too much? Only asking not attacking.
@rotorr22
Жыл бұрын
Shatner would have never agreed to defer to the supporting cast like Mount did in this episode. One thing I love about this series is that Mount's ego doesn't envelope the cast like a heavy blanket.
@Rufudufus
Жыл бұрын
.... because he’s not a self absorbed narcissist douhebag, while the Shat most definitely is..
@pjmchugh2060
Жыл бұрын
This show just keeps getting better! Comedy gold this week! Shout out to the writers !
@AlwaysAPrice
Жыл бұрын
Doubt it was an intentional call-back but Spock indignantly coming clean and peeling off the ears had definite shades of Pel flinging her lobes at Zek for me
@amandamatheny3675
Жыл бұрын
LMAO. That's a good point and absolutely priceless.
@krys1888
Жыл бұрын
My highlight was definitely the conversation about the mind meld. It wasn’t just that she saw the acceptance of Spock into the group, it was the fact that she never was and Spock only now just saw that. In a week where so many of the main cast excelled, Mia’s performance stuck out so much for me as absolutely fantastic.
@georgec7782
Жыл бұрын
The door closing on Pike got some of the biggest laughs for me. Pike's reactions were great.
@zacharypierce2970
Жыл бұрын
This episode was so great. And I definitely agree, Anson Mount killed it with the physical comedy. The shot of him chugging the whiskey during the ceremony had me in stitches.
@Gangerworld
Жыл бұрын
t'Pring's dad was just awesome. Loved him so much. Vulcan dad energy lol. I was annoyed that Chapel didn't just explain that Spock's half-vulcan, half-human and that now he's fully human... instead of all this fluff.
@CRanapia
Жыл бұрын
I see where you're coming from, but I can see why Chapel wouldn't "just explain" when it was pretty clear that they wouldn't be in this situation if they had any grasp of the notion that inter-species hybrids aren't broken and require fixing.
@MrEdfed
Жыл бұрын
I really thought I was going to hate this episode when I saw the trailer but I think it's my fav of the season, if not the series. Especially liked Amanda getting some love ❤
@sceneinvegas
Жыл бұрын
I have so many things that I loved about this episode, but overall - I believe that Ethan Peck is doing Leonard Nimoy proud in his portrayal of a younger Spock. It's magnificent to watch.
@CRanapia
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and I don't think Peck gets enough credit from people who complain his Spock is... well, not enough like Nimoy. Too "emotional" - as if that's not the whole point.
@ocirontariocryptidinvestig8010
Жыл бұрын
really love his version of Spock
@jackkenefick2696
Жыл бұрын
Nimoy wouldnt have liked it given what we know of e.g. him and Curtis's interpretations of vulcans... but times change I guess
@mattcrew5594
Жыл бұрын
I love Ethan Peck as Spock!
@sceneinvegas
Жыл бұрын
@@CRanapia yep exctly, that is the point!
@adrianokury
Жыл бұрын
An adequate showcase for the excellent actors. TOS T'Pring never had the chance to do anything -- the story didn't orbit around her. Gia Sandhu is radiant and whole, fully deserving to star in one more episode. And the two mothers are fantastic...
@DavidPSt1
Жыл бұрын
Peck was great. Seeing the human Spock emphasizes the real issues that his normal state must be suppressing/ controlling. It reminded me of Torres in Voyager when she was split into her human and klingon selves, Finally, I LOVE Mount as Pike, even when he says nothing, his expressions say everything
@douglasauclair3086
Жыл бұрын
Seán, great review of a great episode. I thought the previous work was hard to top, but then, this episode was the top! Nothing is said, nor shown, on screen without a reason, and I'm surprised that nobody up to now has not underscored the importance of Amanda's words before she departs for home: "A human loving a Vulcan is a hard thing." She as herself, is speaking of herself and Sarek, but you don't get foreshadowing underscored any harder than this textbook line. It really casts a pall on Nurse Christine Chapel's love for Spock. And, T'Pring's eyes, dead and cold, when Christine enters the quarters to administer the 'vitamins' to Spock, and her looking after them as Christine drags Spock away to the bathroom, those two, alone, during HER engagement dinner? T'Pring knows more than she's letting on, maybe even if she knows more than she's willing to admit to herself. This is Hamlet-sized tragedy in the making for Spock, Chapel, and T'Pring, and we are all cheering at Christine's "Spock, shut up!" declaration of love, but how is this tenable? How can the lightness be sustained? How is heartbreak not assured in both women's futures? The Chinese character for 'chaos' is 'two women under one roof' (c.f.: James Clavell's Shogun, ... the book, ... and the miniseries, too). The writers have shown that they are astute. Just because it feels good doesn't mean that opening the box on those feelings doesn't make you any less Pandora. I hope they've worked out what this moment means for all three, and I hope they've worked out who has to pay what emotional costs from the fallout, ... ... and are these costs (not?) so high that they (don't) ruin them, and the show for us? I'm looking for the happy ending here, but, as a writer, it's hard for me to see it. I mean, how do they even go to work tomorrow now? "Oh, everything's fine"? "Oh, everything is as it was"? But if not those [cop-outs], then this relationship now bleeds into every interaction they have going forward? Ick. I loved the episode, but I'm concerned about its fallout.
@MichaelWilliams-kq1lv
Жыл бұрын
I think an UP you missed is when Amanda was planning on how to get Spock thru the dinner and Pike asks if he has a choice. When Amanda says No I laughed so hard. It was a big up for me.
@CRanapia
Жыл бұрын
IKR? Amanda's raised two high-maintenance children (three if you count Sarek). Like she's here for any nonsense from a Starfleet captain. :)
@WilliamHostman
Жыл бұрын
@@CRanapia possibly also the last few years of Sybok, too...
@AndrewD8Red
Жыл бұрын
One of the top twenty episodes of Star Trek made this century. I loved it. I'd write down every funny line or discreet expression or moment of physical comedy, but it'd basically just be the full script.
@HaroldGor
Жыл бұрын
Solid episode, but I was struck by the fact that the Vulcans never studied a dimensional vortex in their own system.
@jackkenefick2696
Жыл бұрын
YES!! SNAP!! AND THEN LET HUMANS DO IT INSTEAD!!!
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
Жыл бұрын
@@jackkenefick2696 Very illogical indeed.
@KTJEagle
Жыл бұрын
perhaps a dimensional vortex on one of their own moons would be...illogical
@wtspman
Жыл бұрын
So we learn in this episode that there is a species in the universe that has convergently evolved to resemble a voice response system.
@daenerystargaryen6302
Жыл бұрын
It felt like they were talking to Alexa, Google or Siri.
@grahamvaneck8906
Жыл бұрын
My own personal latinum up is Sean's "transparent as Captain Boday's skull" 🤣 Excellent DS9 callout In all seriousness, in addition to your point about T'Pring being rightfully upset with Spock at the end, you can kinda see the seed of what leads to the events of Amok Time. I'm curious if this will be continued and explored in future episodes/seasons of Strange New Worlds or if we'll just have to connect the dots ourselves.
@carolynclink8443
Жыл бұрын
I'd have gone for "as transparent as aluminum"
@Sammmeow
Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a man with a wonderful mind.
@Xucalfer
Жыл бұрын
I love everything in this episode and I want to live in this world. it's a feeling I haven't had since DS9.
@ElMarcoh
Жыл бұрын
I think the evident AR room is a callback to the old studio sets from TOS, at least it works that way for me, I loved the episode
@jakemeyer8188
Жыл бұрын
After many long years, this show is what has made my wife a Trek die-hard. This episode delightfully exemplifies one of the reasons why. Brilliant all around.
@amandamatheny3675
Жыл бұрын
I was going to be really mad if you didn't mention the nasal suppressant do you think that was an obvious one for anyone who has seen enterprise but I am glad you mentioned it.
@erineddy9310
Жыл бұрын
Anson Mount's subtle humor CORPSED me. it was darling and lovely and I wish we could have had more interaction explaining Charades to the vulcans. I was laughing so hard I made no sound. 🖖🏻💝🖖🏻
@rinehardt6837
Жыл бұрын
What a great episode I'm really enjoying these standalone's and they incorporate some history from trek loved seeing Gia Sandhu back as T'Pring and also Mia Kirshner back as Amanda she was great. I just love this episode.
@kar4tube
Жыл бұрын
Per usual I’m catching up on a Friday night here on the US West Coast. I absolutely loved this episode. I literally laughed out loud multiple times and still took in the waves of emotion. Definitely my favorite episode, so far, this season. Brilliant job with the U&Ds Sean. As always, a true delight. You and all the folks at TrekCulture are an inspiration.
@TheNashvilleHumanist
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this. That was a fun episode. Spock loves his mama.
@GSBarlev
Жыл бұрын
Played by Mia Kirshner. I love his mama too.
@kadosho02
Жыл бұрын
This episode was fantastic, loved every minute. The vibe, and energy within the fam. Is just incredible 🖖
@IsiahBradley
Жыл бұрын
THANKS for this!!! Easily one of the best 21st-century Trek episodes!!! This podcast has had its impact on me. Am I on the only geek who yelled out "Latinum Up" at my favorite part? :)
@ArtistryBranson
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I catch myself yelling "that's an up from me" in my very mediocre brogue-esque estimation of Seán's voice.
@roberthanlon31
Жыл бұрын
Best episode of the season (so far). Both hilarious and incredibly emotional too. Loved it.
@mike.t.angelo
Жыл бұрын
What I don't quite get yet is what is Chapel's role as a nurse. Not only in this episode but in other episodes, it seems like she's like a medical scientist/researcher, sometimes acts like the Enterprise's chief doctor, so I'm a little confused about what her duty as a nurse really is.
@generalilbis
Жыл бұрын
I think Chapel is more of a RPN - Registered Practical Nurse - in her Sickbay duties, where she's far more like a junior doctor than what we most would consider a nurse. She isn't a full MD (yet, as Chapel was one by the movies) but her medical skills/training is advanced enough that she is allowed to handle most minor to medium-severity cases to free up M'Benga to handle big issues or to let him handle the bureaucratic/administrative side of being CMO. Also, since she came to the Enterprise as a civilian medical professional, maybe she's not allowed to be more than a nurse due to not being a civilian MD already?
@AuraJoel
Жыл бұрын
While she's called "nurse" in reference to TOS, it would seem to me she's more like the equivalent to the modern day PA (physician's assistant or associate) who is also a medical student? Considering that Enterprise patients need less time & hands-on care as they would in our age... Anyways, whatever her role is, I really like her character :)
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