Problem wasn't that the Ordnance Corps provided the Star the wrong cartridge, the problem was that the Star was chambered to the wrong cartridge. -t. Ordnance Corps
@InrangeTv
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@asteroidrules
4 жыл бұрын
@@kirkstinson7316 Sounds more like the original M16 to me.
@GentlemansCombatives
4 жыл бұрын
I see Karl with old west firearms, my body is ready.
@TheWarmotor
4 жыл бұрын
I saw his chair as a giant sombrero at first.
@damienwhisenant9115
4 жыл бұрын
US Army ordance core issued the wrong type of ammo that caused reliability problems that would lead to the gun being labeled as useless. Good thing they got mistake out of the way in the 1860s I'm sure they'll never do that again
@quangduongang6230
4 жыл бұрын
Don't jinx it. The last thing you'd want to happen is that the US would fail so miserably that they'd lose a war to a vastly technologically and economically inferior opposition. Ehem. Weird cough
@SStupendous
2 жыл бұрын
Happened in Vietnam
@george5156
2 жыл бұрын
@@quangduongang6230 the officers who deliberately screwed up the cartridge and it's powder should have been put in a punishment battalion for risking American service men!
@ArbiterPrime
2 жыл бұрын
cough m16 cough
@jus10reed
4 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this excited about an upcoming show, Our American cousin was playing at the Ford Theatre
@andrewpiegzik4121
4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that heard "Horses mounted on Horse"?
@dannythehonestgamer6051
4 жыл бұрын
Nope, i heard it too. A true derp moment from Karl.
@Batmack
4 жыл бұрын
Well, yes, but we have to agree that a horse mounted on another horse would still have trouble using a muzzleloader.
@t0r4kk4
4 жыл бұрын
I heard it the first time, but after rewinding it changed to 'forces'. What is this wizardry?
@ActualHumanPerson
4 жыл бұрын
@@t0r4kk4 - it's science.
@51WCDodge
4 жыл бұрын
How else are you going to get replacments?
@Reuter6795
4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Rhode Islander here.. Yeah.. That tiny state. I just realized the Burnside Carbine was designed by the same ambrose Burnside that was the 30th governor of Rhode Island. He died here in 1881 and is buried less than 5 miles from me at the Swan Point Cemetery in Providence RI. I'm a huge fan karl, and if you ever find yourself wanting to visit the resting place of burnside, I would gladly show you around Rhode Island and bring you to his resting place.
@GustheGunGuy
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't everything in Rhode Island less than 5 miles from you?
@MountaintravelerEddie
4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Reuter I just got back from Newport RI before the whole carona shindig. Now I’m back in E. Haven, CT.....
@colemanmoore9871
4 жыл бұрын
@@GustheGunGuy He'll give you the one-day walking tour of the entire state. *laughs is Texan*
@FeedMeMister
4 жыл бұрын
@@colemanmoore9871 At least he *can* walk the short distance without a heart attack or diabetic coma.
@Reuter6795
4 жыл бұрын
@@MountaintravelerEddie somewhat truth. I lived in Dallas for a year. City is size of my state. Lots of history here though and a truly beautiful state. Come visit us
@ops1994
4 жыл бұрын
I’m so exited for this series. As a History lover and a civil war buff. I can not wait to hear about these guns history and their advantages and disadvantages from a tactical perspective like in range does!!!
@austinbrown6593
4 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the rest of this series! I’m a Civil War reenactor and would love to learn more about the weapons of the era.
@donc9751
4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the more detailed video on each weapon! Thank you! I was always fascinated by the civil war era, but living on the west coast most of my life I had never been back East to see any of the battlefields until I was 50ish. My wifes famy lived in Frederick Maryland and when we visited numerous times I had to make the rounds of Antietam & Gettysburg which were both amazing! Even walking in the woods in the area had a special feel about it, like I was walking through hallowed ground and the losses that occurred there could still be felt.
@jeffthebaptist3602
4 жыл бұрын
I've also been to both and they're worth the trip. I really like what they've done with Gettysburg. The first time I went, everything was overgrown. However the last time, they'd cut back Little Round Top so that it looked like it did at the battle.
@brunoterlingen2203
4 жыл бұрын
Once again Karl, I am impressed by your "measured" approach to all your discussions - a true gentleman.
@FaceofDanger
4 жыл бұрын
When will we get an episode focusing on the history of Civil War-era tables? I think people would really enjoy hearing about the Nelson Model 2 'Logtop' you have there. It's an interesting example of the high quality equipment that the Confederacy was able to produce, despite a lack of manufacturing capacity.
@calcite84
4 жыл бұрын
This content is first class although I do miss Karl saying “proclivity” a lot and Ian saying “at any rate”. Keep up the good work chaps!
@RedTSquared
4 жыл бұрын
Love this period of Firearm Design! Thanks and look forward to the individual carbine episodes!
@shawnadams1965
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Karl, Muzzleloading on Horseback... I can't even imagine that coming close to working.
@danielberry3625
4 жыл бұрын
I’m excited for this series. The U.S. civil war is really a major turning point in politics and firearms development.
@ZGryphon
4 жыл бұрын
This looks like it's going to be a fun series. Also, it's nice to know that even in these times of crisis, civil aviation is alive and well in Arizona. I had to cut my Patreon pledge from $5 down to $1, so the thank-you at the end made me feel kind of guilty, but hey, if there ever is such a thing as money in Maine ever again, you'll be the second to know after the people who hold the mortgage on my house. :)
@george5156
2 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping you have plenty of fuel for winter heating
@jordantrottier3882
4 жыл бұрын
The Spencer is so beautiful. The big lever operated rolling block action. The tubular magazine safely concealed in the butt stock. They really are a work of art.
@georgehjohnston7155
4 жыл бұрын
Yes the Henry 1860 was issued. Most notably it was issued to the 1st DC cavalry that was one of the units that helped defend the nation's capital. Book "Symbol sword and sheild"
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
4 жыл бұрын
A Big problem for the US military during the Civil war was the Ordinance department's desire to Not supply any ammunition of 'non-standard' design. They only wanted to issue the standard paper cartridges and caps for a Springfield rifle. This was a problem for the Calvary throughout the war. Great video and Take Care, John
@poppasquat8483
4 жыл бұрын
mixing Spencer up with Sharps is the closest thing to April Fools Joke we'll get this year
@trevorlomprey3077
4 жыл бұрын
I heard that too
@charlesritman1088
3 ай бұрын
I love the civil war content. Would love to see carbine specific videos.
@olddirtbiker5088
4 жыл бұрын
The Spencer also had a cartridge box with a number of tubular "speed loaders" that could be emptied into the buttstock magazine. That's a lot of fire power for the time. I have a repro in 45LC-what a great gun.
@KingHalbatorix
4 жыл бұрын
Real video? Real video. Thank goodness, April 1rst spam got old quicker than ever this year.
@cptreech
4 жыл бұрын
This is what brought me to "Forgotten Weapons" and then on to "In-Range". Such a fascinating period of History, such a unique "War"
@fongule100
4 жыл бұрын
Karl, I really appreciate the history portrayed on inrangetv. Like others in the comments, I have an interest in firearms and history. Thank you.
@emremokoko
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a native English speaker but your pronounciation is very nice. I can still understand you even though you talk quite fast. Great!
@CDOES
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I can't wait for the more in depth videos on each rifle!
@stevenandbobthedog
4 жыл бұрын
I've always been very fascinated with the civil war era so it's great seeing content like this, thanks Karl!
@elektro3000
4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the content involving the development of breechloaders and repeaters in North America. Close second to the Old West Vignettes!
@ringogringo814
3 жыл бұрын
One of the rarest early War breach loading carbines was the Cosmopolitan carbine. My great-great-grandfather carried one in the fifth Illinois Volunteer Calvary. I think there was only around 2,600 of them made.
@Orzorn
4 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed by ya'll's ability to just rattle off numbers without a paper in front of them. You listed 5 separate cartridges, bullet weights, powder counts, and velocities without a hitch!
@umami0247
4 жыл бұрын
This is a great series the civil war is a subject I try and learn as much about it as I can. And your doing a great job in presenting this. Keep it up.
@con6lex
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I love to see the evolution of the arms and ammo.
@quintonb9870
4 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos. Can't wait to see more. Keep pumping out the quality content, please!
@user-ty3vd8qr5j
3 ай бұрын
The Spencer Carbine remained the Standard Issue Carbine to mounted Troopers posted West of the Mississippi. At Ft Sill the Spencer was finally recalled in the winter of 1873/74. I wonder how many seasoned Troopers bought their's Surplus for $10 and carried it as " Back up? The cartridge was pretty similar energy wise; the 45-70 Carbine load was 45 grains of powder and a 405gr bullet. Spencer used a 350gr bullet and 45gr black powder.
@Tacklebox3000
4 жыл бұрын
Videos like these are why I’m a patron, not the matches.
@InrangeTv
4 жыл бұрын
We have a very diverse audience, I get the same comment the other way too.
@Tacklebox3000
4 жыл бұрын
InRangeTV I know, and I imagine I’m in the minority preferring the history over the action. I was just excited to see some old school carbines.
@MarvinCZ
4 жыл бұрын
I like the diverse content. The combined experience provides a unique perspective for both.
@jackusmc2542
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Looking forward to the individual rifle videos. Love the greenery!!
@sirbassist
2 жыл бұрын
@InRangeTV I'd love to see videos on each of these rifles. fascinating stuff!
@richarddixon7276
4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating !, looking forward to the follow ups & in depth explanations, perhaps You & Ian can do a shoot off to finish the series the series off . Thanks for this lesson on historic carbines ,stay Safe & stay Well !
@truestory2990
4 жыл бұрын
Just what i needed to take my mind off the panic. Thanks, Karl!
@justhavingfun675
4 жыл бұрын
There are also many unique breech loading carbines issued only to State regiments that are well engineered and using the most advanced technology. e.g. the Triplett and Scott Repeater, Sharps and Hankins, and Frank Wesson. So much advancement in a short period of time
@Huntersinthesky
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Karl, are we still goin to see this series any time soon? I know I love your gun comparison videos and seeing more about these fascinating arms would be a real boon!
@troy9477
4 жыл бұрын
Nice. This is going to be a great series. A brass case with a flash hole. I am surprised that it took several more years to make the mental leap of putting the primer at the flash hole. Rimfire cartridges existed, so having priming in thd case was not an off the wall idea. I have long thought about getting a repro Spencer. Starline has been making the centerfire brass for awhile, so it is a feasible proposition. I imagine dies are probably expensive and special order, but they are a 1-time expense. Same for the bullet mould. Don't get me thinking- that is always dangerous😃
@BoldAlligator
4 жыл бұрын
Really wish this video came out 5 years ago. My pops would have loved this.
@davidelzinga9757
4 жыл бұрын
I ran across a Maynard at a pawn shop, had 3 barrels and some cartridges with it. Must have been a later model, as the primers went on the cartridge. There was even a tool for setting the primers
@itsnodawayitustabe5654
4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Karl. Civil War small arms are underappreciated among younger shooters.
@williamcrawford7982
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting so many different civil war firearms
@mattjohnson5402
4 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to this videos. Thanks for these excellent history lessons!!
@DanielESmith-iz7lx
4 жыл бұрын
I collect cartridges. A small collection it is. But I love this sort of thing. Top notch sir!
@lars9925
4 жыл бұрын
I am always excited about these series on specific topics. But that also makes me wonder: What about your WWSD 2020 series? You announced that big and only made a few videos ... months ago.
@spartaninvirginia
4 жыл бұрын
This will be an awesome series. Looking forward to it.
@Echowhiskeyone
4 жыл бұрын
The Smith rubber cased round looks almost like a modern telescoping round.
@williammagoffin9324
4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of some of the specialty pellet gun ammo out there, where you have a sub-caliber tin and iron (not lead) pellet and a plastic casing to engage the rifling.
@Warriorcat49
4 жыл бұрын
William Magoffin Your plastic “casing” in such a guise is called a sabot (pronounced “say-bow”), in case you didn’t already know.
@williammagoffin9324
4 жыл бұрын
@@Warriorcat49 They are not sabots as they don't separate, it's just a plastic coating over the skirt of the pellet to protect the rifling when using a tougher metal than lead since air rifle barrels tend to be made of fairly soft steel.
@devincook2736
4 жыл бұрын
@@williammagoffin9324 do you have anything to back up your claim of airgun barrels being made of soft steel?
@williammagoffin9324
4 жыл бұрын
@@devincook2736 Airguns will have 1020 or 1117 steel for rifle barrels while centerfire rifles will have 4130 or 4140 steel. Companies like Crosman and Daisy use low carbon 1020 in their barrels, higher quality air guns will have 1117 which is equal to the steel in .22 rimfire barrels. Benjamin uses or used brass barrels at one time (many older guns will have brass barrels). You'll find warnings online about not using steel or copper-coated steel BBs in rifled airgun barrels because it can damage the rifling.
@Mag_Aoidh
Жыл бұрын
I applaud your narrative, daunting though it may be to regurgitate that much information in one take. A couple of Spencer/Sharps mismatches but overall a well put together video. I’ve owned an original Spencer rifle, I own a repro 1863 Sharps and have fired a Maynard.
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike
4 жыл бұрын
I love cavalry carbines so Im looking forwards to the next videos. Thanks for doing this.
@petergunn-w2v
2 ай бұрын
The Maynard was also made in .35 before the war as sporting carbines and again in 1865 in .40 as sporters. Most of what the state of FL bought before the war were .35 sporters I believe.
@USSEnterpriseA1701
4 жыл бұрын
One thing worth pointing out on the comparison between the linen and paper cartridges for the Sharps is that the over long paper cartridges had a tendency to contribute to the rifle's forend detonating on rare occasion. Basically, when the base of the cartridge was shaved off, a bit of powder inevitably came with it and could collect in a recess cut in the forend for the spring that tensions the breech mechanism and holds the lever closed or open. Under the right circumstances, with the gas leakage of the breech, this powder could ignite and pretty much detonate the forend. Interestingly, this is most often attributed to the Confederate made copies of the Sharps as a design or material flaw, but actually this was because the South didn't quite have the capability to manufacture the linen cartridges en mass, so they stuck with the paper cartridge unless they could capture some Union made linen cartridges.
@johnfife3062
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the follow-up videos.
@DraganIlich-r1s
6 ай бұрын
Insightful thank you Sir. 🎉
@ConckConckConck
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@garyneilson1833
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Karl, the US Civil war is an area of my military history which is very limited and I'm hoping to find out more from these videos
@jordanoneil8094
4 жыл бұрын
Nice backyard there!
@liverpoolirish208
4 жыл бұрын
The number of Spencer's received is incorrect. Only 45,733 Spencer carbines were manufactured under the wartime contracts (excluding the Burnside contract, as none were received before the end of the war), which ran into 1866. By 1st August 1864 the army had received 20,182 Spencer carbines. They probably didn't receive much more than 30,000 before the war ended.
@shootingwithmitch5921
4 жыл бұрын
I am very much looking forward to watching this series!
@paulmorel3329
5 ай бұрын
i have a WESSON, 44 rimfire,which was also used during the War!
@omnisciency
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Irish and it's not even legal to own a fire arm here without a tone of paper work but god damn I love my civil war era guns, great video!
@AspiLeo
2 жыл бұрын
Oi dammit. But that’s Europe. Paperwork, paperwork and paperwork. And for what? For even more paperwork.
@omnisciency
2 жыл бұрын
@@AspiLeo I've looked into going to shooting ranges in Ireland even and most of them require you to get a recommendation from someone who is already a member at one, so exclusive!
@lukehorning3404
4 ай бұрын
One of my favorite nerds I watch kinda like me I love the history
@argyle1812
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent series
@FailedRanger
4 жыл бұрын
im looking forward to this
@noahcount7132
4 жыл бұрын
The Hall "breech-loading muzzle loader that you didn't load from the muzzle" (mentioned about 1m 20s into the video) must have been either a very confusing or very convenient firearm to operate. Clever, subtle April Fool's Day joke Karl. ;^)
@rayfeltz8477
4 жыл бұрын
Love this.
@droidlittle582
4 жыл бұрын
As always I love the historical content! You guys rock! Cheers!
@elricm13
Жыл бұрын
Great video, love the production data. Might be interesting to do the more obscure rifles like the Triplett & Scott
@DocOmaley98
4 жыл бұрын
I love this historical based content. Maybe you could do a water of mud test with the rifles to see how weather proof they would've been. Love the video and the channel!
@gatmanaug
4 жыл бұрын
??? your personal collection ???? sweet!!! can't wait too se more!!
@lordsithous4406
4 жыл бұрын
Yup this is a series on going to love.
@turbografx16
4 жыл бұрын
I'm ready!
@michaelmcgourty9535
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've always wanted to learn about this subject.
@rodneysmith247
3 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@TheOnyxGeneral
4 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@trooperdgb9722
4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this series!
@joedunbar2072
4 жыл бұрын
Great video brother it was informative and worth sharing and subscribing keep up the good work
@shooter575
4 жыл бұрын
I have been a N-SSA skirmisher for 40 years. I have shot in competition most of these. Many originals are still being shot today Order of preference I see on the line today would be Smith,Sharps and Maynard. Gallager in distance 4th and last would be Burnside. Our carbine class is all for external primed arms. Check out N-SSA.org for more info.
@lucasward9506
4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that some of the best gun technology of there day would be considered too dangerous to use today.
@SacoreyRugger
4 жыл бұрын
Videos from the quarentine closet
@TubeRadiosRule
5 ай бұрын
Ebenezer T. Starr was my 5th cousin, 6X removed, on my mother's father's side of my family. My wife is into genealogy...she also says I'm related to Johnathan Browning, and his famous son John Moses Browning, but she's still trying to find the exact connection...
@AAAF556
4 жыл бұрын
These are awesome, thanks for sharing them, man.
@maxwellclark6992
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, love the content, always have, always will
@briancox2721
4 жыл бұрын
So many questions about that rubber cartridge. Was it vulcanized? Why rubber? Can't wait for that video to come out.
@machintelligence
4 жыл бұрын
The cartridge he displayed was a modern equivalent. The original was a rubber tube with a bullet at one end and a cardboard disc with a center perforation at the other. They are very rare and collectible today. My great great grandfather purchased one of these carbines when he was discharged from the Union army. The price was eight dollars and it is still in he family.
@popojoeexplode
4 жыл бұрын
Love my smith carbine
@Kowalski089
4 жыл бұрын
You can tell Karl is trying to hide how giddy he is that he gets to do this series. 😁 I can't wait for the rest
@InrangeTv
4 жыл бұрын
You're right, this is the stuff I care about.
@GRMGR1
4 жыл бұрын
That’s a beautiful table of weaponry.
@tacituskilgore5372
Жыл бұрын
Cool video
@JVRottweil
4 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see you guys do an N-SSA event and put all them to good use in a competition
@remko1238
4 жыл бұрын
THE epic table ❤️
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
4 жыл бұрын
Spencer rifles make me stiff as ninepence. Cheers for the upload sir.
@martins.4240
4 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. The Spencer is a very nice looking gun, sleek and sexy.
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
4 жыл бұрын
@@martins.4240 As a horse person my liking of carbines goes back a long way. I love the older rifles these days. The Spencer, The Henry, and the Martini- Henry is a big favorite. I believe Ian has one the lucky buggar lol.
@MaxMustermann-pr2ez
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Karl as always great !!! cheers from Germany
@InrangeTv
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@Sedan57Chevy
4 жыл бұрын
I have never been so excited for an Inrange series! Thank you, Karl! Can't wait to see more on these wonderful old carbines.
@zpduff01
4 жыл бұрын
5:55 jeez that poor Sharp's
@HanstheTraffer
Жыл бұрын
It looks like the Maynard may have inspired the development of center fire cartridges.
@ryanbond8528
4 жыл бұрын
Although I do like the vid i have to point out that the term side burn comes from the use of Flint loc rifles by the English infantry..... The men would grow " side burns " to prevent powder burns on the side of their face ... So i was told.... I could be wrong it ...
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