"We investigated ourselves, and found that we are innocent of the atrocity we have committed"
@b-trucker7717
Ай бұрын
Kinda like how Russia shot down 2 airlines down and still were innocent 🤔
@jasonantonio7906
Ай бұрын
at least it is believable, knowing how iranian behaves, their military terrorize the whole world up until now
@ryanzer0170
27 күн бұрын
@@rsa_doluse7962 we followed every rule on the book. Not our fault the Iranian pilot/government were being douches. Next time, don't play dumb dames and out people's lives at risk.
@breadone_
25 күн бұрын
@@ryanzer0170 did you even watch the video? the ship was outside of their approved area and inside iran's waters. they didn't use the squawk codes to properly identify the plane, one of the crew misread the altitude as descending when it never did. nothing BUT mistakes. so tell me, how were the pilots being "douches" here? the yanks acted on emotion and bad information while pretending to be the heroes, as always.
@DewYou-zn4ny
24 күн бұрын
Lol ironic huh!!?
@maximusmeridius2306
3 ай бұрын
How you get rewarded for making a mistake 😮
@medojed8266
3 ай бұрын
I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.
@gibbo_303
2 ай бұрын
alot of the crew didnt make a mistake here, it was only a couple of people that made a mistake
@nimo6972
2 ай бұрын
Welcome to Liberalism.
@agan9993
2 ай бұрын
IN USA they do
@Wolfgang_AmaDEEZ_NUTZart
Ай бұрын
@@nimo6972 Ah yes, Liberalism, the driving force of US military.
@Captain_Razor_88
3 ай бұрын
I feel like that P-8 could have warned civilian airlines of the ongoing situation.
@CalibreNueve95
2 ай бұрын
It was a P3
@TMBpk
3 ай бұрын
Americans in a nutshell Soviets shoot down Korean Air - barbaric Americans shoot down Iranian Air - oops sorry
@your_mother_likes_geography
3 ай бұрын
bruh the americans gave them multiple warnings
@aznsbd
3 ай бұрын
At least we learn from our mistakes. I don't think we have ever shot down another civilian airliner where as the Russians and Iranians have both shot down an airliner in the last decade.
@medojed8266
3 ай бұрын
I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.
@ojaygeorges8000
3 ай бұрын
What a load of rubbish ... and to top it up, the court didn't tell the truth, which is the crew of a warship was responsible for wrong reading of the commercial airline going up instead of going down ... and to make it worse ... they have been welcomed home as hearos .... and given the middle of recognition ... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shannongriffith2092
2 ай бұрын
They were requested to identify themselves multiple times and they did not they didn't obey a single command that they were given they didn't communicate with the ship it was a war zone whether it was Iranian Waters or not. We went into foreign Waters during world war II during Vietnam during the Persian Gulf war etcetera etcetera etcetera that's what happens in wars. Have you never heard the term behind enemy lines@@ojaygeorges8000
@sayemurrahman7975
3 ай бұрын
They could have changed their position and see if the plane follows them.
@casparv
2 ай бұрын
Ship is wayyy too slow for that
@meair
2 ай бұрын
they couldn't do that safely with armed boats in the area and one of their main guns jammed
@rasha6334
3 ай бұрын
Incredible level of incompetency! Poor training, lack of understanding the sophisticated technology, and downright poor procedures that favors hostility versus caution! Then the awards that were given! Oh My!
@tygodegier3110
Ай бұрын
At least we know what happened and we can judge for ourselves. Those awards are outrageous indeed.
@stephenmapeka7774
Ай бұрын
Hi!whose level of incompetence are you referring to exactly,IranAir pilots or US Naval crusier commanders?
@jasonantonio7906
Ай бұрын
atleast this is just a few mistakes... the fault is on the iran, for using a commercial runway for their f-14's....
@aashishlimbu2458
Күн бұрын
@@jasonantonio7906 Hhahahaha
@haghighi251
3 ай бұрын
They could have changed their position to see if the plane would follow them but they were going into Iran's territory why?!!! The US has never published any document or footage showing that Iran attacked their helicopter. There is no recorded conversation between the ship and helicopter; the US provided this story themselves. Even after more than 40 years, the US hasn't released documents related to this tragedy, suggesting they are aware of intentional wrongdoing. The US sold F-14s to Iran knowing these aircraft were designed for air-to-air combat and incapable of attacking ground targets, including their ships. The claim that an F-14 was at a commercial airport in the midst of war raises skepticism. Just imagine an F14 was in Bandar Abbas airport and you could have realized it (which means you good knew what was going on in that airport because you were listening to the radio communications and knew where the F14 was next to the commercial plane!!!), How could you have not realized the commercial plane was flying from there and now is in the air? Iran had only 80 F-14s, some non-operational due to lack of facilities, stored in Air Force bases. It's implausible that the US, monitoring radio communications, would miss a commercial plane taking off from Bandar Abbas airport, given the distinct size and speed differences between an F-14 and a commercial aircraft. During the war, the US intercepted Iranian communications, shared information with Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and used AWACS planes to monitor airspace, enabling them to detect any threat against their warships from Tehran or Isfahan, over 600 km away. The warship had access to US Air Force support in Dubai, Saudi Arabia, and neighboring countries with military bases. This incident was not accidental; the US had a strategic plan. Despite their claims of Iranian attacks during the war, they never released any footage to substantiate these allegations.
@LittleTed1000
2 ай бұрын
I have some suspicions about your motivations here. But here's a question that will work out what type of actor you are here. Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752. That was a conspiracy too, I would assume? Iran had a "strategic plan" when those people were killed?
@stephenmapeka7774
Ай бұрын
This was not a navy destroyer but a cruiser which isn't easily maneuvered,changing directions to check if it's been followed like it was a rabbit evading chasing dog doesn't make sense.2nd issue:If Iranian military didn't have means to intercept or pick up radio communications over their waters &airspace then how were they gonna track one of their countries' missing commercial aircraft had it occured?
@m2heavyindustries378
Ай бұрын
@@LittleTed1000 Of course it is some rag wearing actor! Always a paid allarhu-alkbar troll posting here in awful English, a cheap, repeating broken record with these 'binlardens'.
@NyteFlyer-e9v
2 күн бұрын
Any aircraft can be outfitted with weapon hard points. It's a time consuming operation and costs a bit. But can be done. Also even if no such hard points are equipped it's possible, easy to load the aircraft with explosives. And do not forget 9/11 when ordinary passenger aircraft were used as impact weapons against major buildings in the USA. Saying the aircraft isn't posing a positive danger is reckless. In a potentially hostile encounter with unknown, unresponsive approaching aircraft , the time to decide is limited. It's easy to arm chair quarterback after the event. But in fact, they were on station facing a hostile foreign nation which has used terror attacks. So the captain needs to weigh the possibility of being attacked vs aggressive response. The united states has a known territory respect of 12 miles off a nations shores. Many countries jump about claiming up to and over 200 miles, while at the same time ignoring the US 12 mile territory. We are on record at the UN as having said we will only recognize 12 miles, period. Beyond that we are on record of calling water and air in that area as free open navigation territory. The Iranian aircraft even passenger aircraft are required to signal their status, and intention when hailed. If no response is given, no signal identified then the decision is based on whether the unknown is carrying anti ship weapons. If so the response must be made before the possible aggressor gets into positive launch range. Added to all of this, the fact of dealing with aggressive gun boats, that would distract effective defense, as well as the very real possibility that that the misdirection of IFF and silence may have been ordered by Iranian officials seeking an incident. We have to assume it was getting too close, it posed a threat, sadly the decision had to be made, shoot. So an incident occurred, probably one wanted by the officials that authorized the aircrafts approach and actions. We must not forget that terror attacks often sacrifice the attackers, as martyrs to a cause. Could some official in the Iranian government have planned the incident to test, or create the situation for political purposes? There will never be a true explanation of the planes actions. But the simple fact is a military ship must act to defend itself from any unknown. This fact applies to ships of every nation. Everyone must agree on national reach of territory, and agree on proper response to a challenge made by a military vessel.
@alibuolayyan9038
3 ай бұрын
Reasonable? America has all this technology and it was not able to differentiate between a civilian plane and a military plane
@Jprager
3 ай бұрын
Planes aren’t even allowed in restricted airspace like that, after you’ve received fair warning over ATC, they should’ve moved out, but they didn’t listen
@reasonableperson6259
3 ай бұрын
@@Jprager The US warship was in Iranian waters, not international waters. It says that in the video. They should not have been there at all, they were in an entirely different zone than the one they were assigned. If the captain had stayed where he was supposed to those 200 people would still be alive today. People are so quick to defend the US military but than criticize other militaries when they shoot down civilian aircraft. The truth is that it's no different when we do it.
@Jprager
3 ай бұрын
@@reasonableperson6259 they had jurisdiction otherwise they wouldn’t be safeguarding the area to begin with given the Iran/iraqi conflict.
@necsoiub
3 ай бұрын
@@Jprager How do you know it was restricted airspace? You have to inform the authorities to declare restricted airspace. They did that? I suppose not. They just went there for some action and 290 civilians died.
@Jprager
3 ай бұрын
@@necsoiub any mission which requires testing/com FTX sessions restricted airspace at any point in time. All the pilots had to do was respond to the request/questioning, and they didn’t even do that. It’s their Iranian ATCs fault
@Stingray4
3 ай бұрын
I truly feel that the person that declared that it was descending is at fault. As the captain is going off of the information that he was given. But the fact that the ship was in Iran waters is bad. Sad that this situation happened none the less. Love these videos.
@tygodegier3110
Ай бұрын
At least there is clarity on what happened. And i agree that not only the captain is at fault, that he was fed vague info made him make a bad decision.
@necsoiub
3 ай бұрын
The passenger jet was gaining altitude to reach the cruising altitude but somehow the ship's crew deduced it was descending and gaining speed. That's a huge question mark! 40:39 that theory doesn't make any sense because they are trained personnel and there's no way nobody rechecked the target's speed and altitude.
@chippyjohn1
3 ай бұрын
They wanted to shoot it down.
@medojed8266
3 ай бұрын
@@chippyjohn1 I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.
@chippyjohn1
3 ай бұрын
@@medojed8266 Using civilan squawk code is not a war crime. Second, the US navy has no power in giving orders near another country. Their power resides In the US, not outside. Same issue near China, they think they have some authority. Same here in Australia.
@rfi-cryptolab4251
2 ай бұрын
CYA
@Atari2600Gamer
Ай бұрын
@@medojed8266 stop repeating yourself, you're full of crap anyway
@DeepanjanThakur
2 ай бұрын
US: Shoots a civilian aircraft because they felt they could get attacked when they're roaming around thousands of miles away from their country.
@b-trucker7717
Ай бұрын
Or is it that you libturds don't read the full story and makeup one to fit ya agenda, they were patrolling the waters from civilians ships being attacked 🤦♂️
@ReiSumicad
Ай бұрын
Know the story why they were there
@moosehead4497
2 ай бұрын
Capt. Richard McKenna Is absolutely correct. Ad much as they tried to play it we didn't want to shoot they were clearly looking for action. Having the film crew on board no doubt encouraged them
@memphiskim6721
2 ай бұрын
With reporters onboard and the ship crews gungho for action, this disaster is bound to happen.
@grifftown
3 ай бұрын
dude you can't just say the aircraft is descending, say its a psychological syndrome and not elaborate. That was the entire reason on why it got shot down
@joulesbeef
3 ай бұрын
yeah that was a poor explanation. Did you see the one where the plane took off on the wrong runway with construction work going on? there was a lot of info telling them it was the wrong runway. But a form of confirmation bias, had them only seeing what they expected to see and not seeing all teh signs that said they were in the wrong place. This would be a similar thing. seeing what you expect to see. there have been others, the guy who shut off the wrong engine. did similar. or the guys who ignore the ground proximity alarm because they are sure they are somewhere else in the sky. which you should never do, its better to obey a false warning than miss a real one. pull up worry if its false later. in flying confirmation bias is such a huge thing, which is why they say trust your instruments.
@grifftown
3 ай бұрын
@@joulesbeef Yup I've seen most of these as I've watched hours of aviation disasters and why they happened. In this case in particular I believe the failure was no one else double-checked that the plane was actually declining. I know this is a bit different because this is on a battleship but the same concept of bias is still spot on. This is why I believe always having someone double-check and question things leads to greater safety, hence why on airplanes we have the pilot and the co-pilot. Communication and attention to detail are key in preventing these type of tragedies
@TonyTarantinoo
2 ай бұрын
Facts, was just thinking if the Captain walked over to double check the aircraft’s altitude he would himself would have seen that commercial aircraft was indeed ascending not descending, just sounds lazy too me how no one double checked the aircraft attacking them was actually on a descending flight path towards them
@grifftown
2 ай бұрын
@@TonyTarantinoo 💯
@jeandenbelg
3 ай бұрын
What a disgusting world!
@jeandenbelg
3 ай бұрын
People of Gia, everyone gain consciousness!
@everestcheats2622
2 ай бұрын
You mean, what a disgusting waste of a country? Hopefully they vote for Biden again, and they continue to fade into irrelevance
@aljilhano5822
3 ай бұрын
Americans be like; let’s shoot civilian airplanes and we get commended maintaining poise and confidence under fire and the legion of merit😅
@Jchow08
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the investigative journalism Mayday, souls onboard that flight may now finally rest in peace
@philipbuckley759
Ай бұрын
and no one was held responsible.....
@MrJesmal007
Ай бұрын
Y they didnt use their binoculars for visual
@sabine8419
2 ай бұрын
This is embarrassing and sad. You'd expect top military personnel to be smarter than that.
@737tech
3 ай бұрын
We need to keep our military at home.
@crazeelazee7524
3 ай бұрын
Reminder that despite the US insistence that it was all a mistake, the air warfare coordinator received a Navy commendation medal and the captain received a Legion of merit medal.
@medojed8266
3 ай бұрын
So? The captain is not responsible for checking the information, he is responsible to shout orders based on the information. If he gets information that an aircraft is decsending, refusing to communicate with the US Navy, he will order it to shoot down. No matter how you look at it, the captain is in the right. He made the choice that presumably could have saved the crew.
@PJ-si2po
2 ай бұрын
Can not identify the difference in between a passenger jet and a F-14
@jesterr7133
2 ай бұрын
Like many of the tragedies that are covered on this show, there were a variety of factors that all conspired together to create this terrible tragedy. Both the U.S.and Iran share culpability to some degree for creating the factors that caused this tragedy. Like many of the cases covered on this show, the U.S. Captain was in a situation that the majority of people are fortunate enough to never be in. If he had not taken action, based on the information he had at the time, he believed he was putting his sailors' life at risk. While I believe he made the proper decision based on the information he had, he should not have received a commendation for it. Whether he was wrong or not, a large number of innocent people died. That is not something to celebrate.
@LavaLord141
3 ай бұрын
Please can you guys do Lion air 610 cause you guys haven’t done that yet
@adelphosgames2996
Ай бұрын
But how come that the commercial flight couldn’t respond to the distress call
@QuickflixWifhat
Ай бұрын
We never know if they really did. They never released the original records
@CruzXz
2 ай бұрын
But why didn’t the flight respond
@roy12525
3 ай бұрын
Captain Rogers and his crew should be in jail.
@gibbo_303
2 ай бұрын
no, only his staff that gave incorrect information should be in jail
@everestcheats2622
2 ай бұрын
@@gibbo_303 Yes. I also do not believe that this ship didn't have the necessary communications equipment to communicate of regular air-traffic radio. There was never a conversation between the heli and the ship (that supposedly took fire). It was all a cover up to hide their stupidity and cowardice
@the-digital-idiot
2 ай бұрын
What did you expect the captain to do? He was told there was a hostile aircraft heading right for him. Are you expecting him to, via dark magic, infer that his crew is wrong? If anyone should be in jail, it's the person who misidentified it, although even then, there's other factors at play here. The government should definitely be paying significant fines to the families though, at very least.
@zorion3324
2 ай бұрын
Mistake or no mistake such things happen sometimes, but you must pay 100 million dollars for each person on board for your mistake.
@agan9993
2 ай бұрын
Iran filed a case against the United States in the International Court of Justice (ICJ) seeking compensation and holding the US accountable for the incident. In 1996, the United States agreed to settle the case by paying $61.8 million as compensation to the families of the victims, without formally admitting legal liability or apologizing.
@zorion3324
2 ай бұрын
Just the cost of the aircraft is over 80 million dollars, shame on the U.S., not even an apology, that would have been the least thing to do, apologize, as I have always said the U.S. government's morals are derived from the DOLLAR, just as the dollar goes up and down, so does the morals of this government, the days of the DOLLAR are numbered.
@MATTbwnbw
2 ай бұрын
These adverts have a cool documentary inbetween
@grundged
2 ай бұрын
The 2nd code sqwuak was a lie, fyi.
@jesterr7133
2 ай бұрын
If I am the captain of a passenger jet flying in a combat zone and I hear a warning like that, I am responding just to make sure they aren't talking to me.
@sabine8419
2 ай бұрын
They didn't know it was a combat zone, because it wasn't an official combat zone.
@poraliyogi6813
2 ай бұрын
American consciousness. You can see this throughout in USA wherever you go...Hospitals, Shops, etc...
@NASWOG
3 ай бұрын
You can’t even get the title grammatically correct 😂
@GorgeGeorg
18 күн бұрын
Remember that any 'civilian aircraft' can easily be converted to a combative (or 'military') aircraft. Sept 11 being a clear example of that.
@BookwormVlogz
3 ай бұрын
They took the plane down on purpose if you ask me but if it was USA plain they wouldn't shut it down .
@differenttakethanmost
3 ай бұрын
For what reason?
@colestock9980
3 ай бұрын
If you think about it they had no choice. Confirmation bias was leading them to believe they were getting attacked in a combat situation. Confusion about the schedule, and lack of definitive identifiers towards the plane during communications that led to no response was enough to make them believe that they were under attack from the air as well. Obviously the whole thing was handled really poorly from both sides of the engagement and was very easily preventable with correct action from either one side
@gibbo_303
2 ай бұрын
please pass grade 4 before you comment on something you know nothing about
@BookwormVlogz
2 ай бұрын
@@gibbo_303 so passive aggressive get well. you literally commented on all my comments your a creep and your screaming for attention
@BookwormVlogz
2 ай бұрын
@@gibbo_303 go play some Roblox .
@hanesstucco638
Ай бұрын
Why is there no explaination as to why the passenger jet did not respond and heed the warnings to change course?
@MrJesmal007
Ай бұрын
Ship should have changed its course
@juanleon3875
3 ай бұрын
Mayday Air Disaster is my favorite show, they literally go back in time to record everything that happened, they literally go to missing aircraft and get the fdr and vcr and once they are done using it they put it back in the ocean to not disturb the spirits. (This is a joke btw)
@misskitty2133
3 ай бұрын
Check out Mentour pilot! He’s great too
@juanleon3875
Ай бұрын
@@misskitty2133 I went and he says it in a story format not in a story format with a twist at the end and his videos are too long they are 40 minutes.
@cherylmcwilliams7238
2 ай бұрын
There was a lot going on with exchanging fire, a jammed gun, having the change position, protecting another vessel, helo receiving fire and an airliner with no response. All rolled into a heated moment. What you do at that exact time, we weren't there and in that situation with having to react. Sitting at TV or computer screen watching the "after the effects" is a lot different than being involved at that moment of life and death situations in the job that is required. I know this from being in Flight Operations most of my life. Sometimes you don't have the time to think of "what if"...
@mwat22
2 ай бұрын
@@cherylmcwilliams7238 they could have asked their superiors if there are reports or confirmation of military fighters operating in their area of engagement
@Lovepeacejustice
12 күн бұрын
Aircraft not responding to warnings ⚠️.
@Sahilprakash1999
3 ай бұрын
28:33 at 9:54 AM Iran Air Flight 655 has been shot down by USS Vincennes surface-to-air missile
@einsiol
Ай бұрын
Why did they not just try to move the ship out of the path of the plane to see if it would change direction and indicate it was following the ship? They had plenty of options to avoid shooting down the plane. They could have contacted the airport and Iranian air traffic control, to help with contacting the plane. They could have looked up with binoculars. It's baffling to listen to them continue justifying this war crime, even blaming Iran.
@Sahilprakash1999
3 ай бұрын
7:16 Captain William Rogers III: set General Quarters LT Commander Vic Guillory: Officer of the deck set General Quarters
@reckondragon2130
24 күн бұрын
Very unfortunate and tragic situation. Im not sure that it was practical though for Iran to operate military aircraft at a commercial airport. It is sad when lives have to be lost in order to learn painful lessons.
@muhammadtalha3123
2 ай бұрын
It wasn’t F14 it was deliberately shot down…
@ChicoLLachowski
3 күн бұрын
Yes they deliberately shot it down because they thought it was an F14. Are all people named Muhammad as diputS as you?
@Australia-zt1ds
17 күн бұрын
Disgusting what's they doing there....
@facelesstravel
2 ай бұрын
but the question is wtf us do in persian gulf!
@michaeledwinpillai
3 ай бұрын
Still wondering what business does an American ship have halfway across the globe
@gibbo_303
2 ай бұрын
still wondering how uneducated you are
@johnbergeron9997
3 ай бұрын
Lol another great rerun
@renasauceman
3 ай бұрын
do you mean the video or the us army killing innocent civilians? cause both are true.
@jimmcgill2467
26 күн бұрын
I'm wondering how Iran has US-made F14s and P3s? I should learn more history, I guess.
@schutsheer_des_vaderlands
2 күн бұрын
The US sold them to their puppet, the Shah.
@jiwik731
3 ай бұрын
They just wanted to shoot something so much to flex in front of the camera crew so they wish it was an enemy aircraft so they created an enemy aircraft.
@matts156
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they were so hyped up to shoot something down, they waited beyond the 20-mile line until the plane was only 9 miles away to actually engage it? Don't give up your day job, analysis clearly isn't in your wheelhouse.
@colestock9980
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they really wanted to shoot down that plane. They definitely weren’t desperately trying to contact it to stop the engagement, they definitely didn’t wait until the literal last second to decide, and definitely weren’t waiting to call the attack off in a moment’s notice. Yup, they wanted that plane gone with no remorse.
@michaellowe5980
3 ай бұрын
@@matts156how about they shouldn't have been in those waters in the 1st place. Typical American arrogance. Good to see the US falling apart so badly now.
@jiwik731
3 ай бұрын
@@colestock9980 They did not try to contact it - they used only military frequenci civilian aircraft do not use (they did not bothered to second check it) , they did not try to stop it engage because there was no engagement. They ignored the fact the plane was rising, not going down to attack, they even ignored the civilian codes plane was sending and did not even bothered to check if they set it right. The fighter jet they were getting the signal from was sitting at airfield.
@colestock9980
3 ай бұрын
@@jiwik731 they tried 3 times on civilian frequencies (121.5). Confirmation bias showed that the plane was following a classic diving attack pattern because of the paranoia of battle. They were confused as to why it squawked it’s airliner code as well as the F-14 code, they had no idea there was both an airliner and an F-14.
@cncmoh
Ай бұрын
BS. They already admitted to deliberately shooting down a passenger plane.
@Bob31415
2 ай бұрын
100% Iran's fault. First Iran attacks a U.S. Navy ship in *international* waters, then they allow a civilian Iranian airliner to fly into the middle of the battle.
@ronojpayeng637
2 ай бұрын
Why didn't the pilot receive a distress call? What went wrong with the plane? Was it a homemade plane?
@aljilhano5822
3 ай бұрын
They’re shooting someone based on their delusions! Pathetic!
@johndelconte9915
3 ай бұрын
Isn’t it nice to watch a video from the comfort of your couch and judge the ones keeping you safe?
@nevvee
2 ай бұрын
@johndelconte9915 tell that to the victims' families.
@johndelconte9915
2 ай бұрын
@@nevvee get A dictionary.
@johndelconte9915
2 ай бұрын
@@nevvee mistakes or accidents are not “intentional”. That’s all I’m saying. If they were there would be more people in jail.
@sakabatanuki9744
2 ай бұрын
this is exactly how MH380 was destroyed due to not having transponder turn off by MH380.
@stephenmapeka7774
Ай бұрын
MH370,not that I agree with what you saying,just correcting Flight no
@FranciscoBanatao-zx7jw
9 күн бұрын
They have or gave warning in this aircraft but they did not respond what they did is to fire
@anoshsmith9500
25 күн бұрын
It's funny how Captain cried, BS he would have been like" it's their fault they were flying while we were fighting" typical USA response.
@nanlyrics4039
3 ай бұрын
how couldn't they differentiate just by speed..... passenger airplane and fighter jet speed is not same.......this is non sense
@gibbo_303
2 ай бұрын
incorrect, fighter jets can easily mimic a passenger airliner so they can get closer without being shot at
@stephenmapeka7774
Ай бұрын
By speed?
@1234shiran
2 ай бұрын
So sad for the people who died 😢 The fear of death cause more deaths so sad …. This world never get better … technology is the biggest enemy or destruction for generations to come …. Just sad
@angrytailsandjosedanieldia6238
3 ай бұрын
There is 1 plane that has survivors a Korean flight with 109 people
@Chris-gi9ch
Ай бұрын
It's easy to judge when looking from the sidelines, but this is a bad mistake on our part that should've been acknowledged, with the victims families compensated. I understand the situation with the Iranian government, and coming under fire, but they we're innocent people and their families need an apology and compensated.
@jesterr7133
2 ай бұрын
They did not explain this situation very well. This identification system was completely useless. Why would any military aircraft identify itself as a military aircraft if they could use the civilian designation? If the civilian designation doesn't automatically identify it as civilian, then why have the system at all? It obviously was not very effective.
@Bob31415
2 ай бұрын
37:27 - Did that dude inhale helium before transmitting?
@Greninja3366
Ай бұрын
Was it really THAT hard to just walk out of the room, grab a pair of binoculars and god damn look at the sky?
@ChicoLLachowski
3 күн бұрын
Theres literally actual footage in this video of people with binoculars. It was too far.
@tedc7714
Ай бұрын
Knowing the track record over there. Could anyone be sure it was not a kamikaze plane ????
@brianaumali6591
2 ай бұрын
Things happen quickly in the heat of battle that can be seen differently after its over when there is more time to evaluate your options yet if it happened again its likely the same thing would happen with the same outcome!!!😢😢😢
@sabine8419
2 ай бұрын
That's why they are supposed to have nerves of steel to be soldiers. You need to stay cool and composed and focus on the facts even in dire situations.
@mohammadlotfipour849
3 ай бұрын
Reasonable??????really?????????
@Echowhiskeyone
3 ай бұрын
I have said this before, there are bit that have not been released and still remain classified. That said, the plane was in the wrong place at the wrong time. RIP all on that flight.
@necsoiub
3 ай бұрын
So it's the civilian plane's fault?
@kayr4502
3 ай бұрын
Actually, it was not. It was listed on the flight plan they had. Lack of training from our military is what caused this devastation.
@renasauceman
3 ай бұрын
trigger happy war machine is the wrong thing in this situation.
@robert-h2x
3 ай бұрын
@@renasauceman not even trigger happy. it was already over 5 mins into the ships defence zone
@matts156
3 ай бұрын
@@kayr4502 It wasn't on the flight plan. The plane was delayed by more than 30 minutes because a passenger had immigration problems. The IDS operator was unable to match that plane to what was listed on the flight plan. That's not to say it's the airline's fault, it's just an unfortunate factor that contributed to a tragic outcome.
@samcam3151
2 ай бұрын
Just shows how America is trigger happy
@theargonauts8490
2 ай бұрын
Like how you didn’t watch the video 🤪
@saltamonte777
Ай бұрын
I think they knew what they were doing.
@CanVeyn
Ай бұрын
Not the first time Israel did the same with Lybian Airlines
@Wolfgang_AmaDEEZ_NUTZart
Ай бұрын
1:31 sir, you are speaking out loud, therefor it's very likely you are not dead.
@mohamadistiaquehossain7013
3 ай бұрын
Why is the passenger aircraft in silent mode!?
@legitbeans9078
3 ай бұрын
Iranian schemes and secret evil plans
@francislong5114
Ай бұрын
What was the passenger's name? Please.
@memyself6454
Ай бұрын
plane was climbing it clear show in the ship data but they say its decending...they want to shoot something so bad and look cool on tv they lose their mind
@allanmartinez2589
Ай бұрын
All they wanted was looking for a fight
@thomascampbell3739
29 күн бұрын
Houthi doing the same thing the Iranian did years ago. This is where they land it from.
@deputydawg6520
Ай бұрын
World's worst actors.
@thierrykillian8419
2 ай бұрын
With the potential of that aircraft being hi jacked ?
@draza-x4b
2 ай бұрын
Truly a sad event but the point is many things were hidden by the navy this is what happens when a body investigates itself i do feel sorry for the captain who seemed a decent chap the whole point seemed that training on these over computerized warships war ships was not intense enough somebody mentioned the day Russians shot down Korean civil plane down we had interesting program here a few years ago on tv showing an interview with Russian pilot of the mig fighter that shot down the plane it was really interesting he was an old man retired but never forgot he had visual contact with the pilot of the South Korean passenger plane for up to 30 minutes signalling them to divert and land but to no avail watching this video bought this event to my memory easy to be a critic when you are nowhere near the action
@wanto4279
16 күн бұрын
Did America compensate Iranian families, over this?
@admcstabby
Ай бұрын
I love how Americans and international citizens alike intentionally use ignorance and sheer lack of common sense to blame the American military for this disaster (and others). Let's go over the facts so with a smug look of satisfaction I can tell you are how prejudice you truly are. 1. United States warships weren't in the Strait of Hormuz because of some need of dominance or sense of arrogance, they were patrolling the area because there had been a series of attacks on civilian cargo ships committed by Iran. 2. Not even a year prior, the Iraqi navy had "mistaken" the USS Stark as an Iranian warship and attacked it, killing 37 Americans. So, there was already a sense of tension 3. A NOTAM was disseminated to all countries within the region notifying them of the conflict and that all civilian flights needed to monitor the Air Distress frequency and *BE PREPARED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES* if necessary. 4. A helicopter from one the United States warships started receiving small arms fire, while over international waters, from Iraqi vessels. Adding to the tension and the possibility of a bigger attack. 5. A total of *ELEVEN* attempts were made to contact and identify Flight 655. Seven on military frequencies, four on international distress frequencies. 6. Flight 665 departed from an Iranian airport that served as both a commercial and military airport where Iranian F-14s flew from, further adding to the confusion, especially since there were other active F-14s at the airport. It is easy to speculate that an attack run is under way. 7. Iran should have *NEVER* allowed a commercial aircraft to fly within the vicinity of an active conflict zone. We see commercial flights re-routed all the time over contested/conflict zones, no one is going to say "Hey, why didn't Iran divert Flight 655?"...maybe because they wanted to start an international incident. No....not Iran! It's DEFINITELY America's fault. 8. Flight 655 was reported as flying at 350kts, while the crew would have seen themselves at an airspeed of 300kts. This contributed to the confusion of Flight 655's flight crew as to whether or not the United States warships were attempting to contact them, or another Iranian military aircraft nearby. Hence the reason they never responded. 9. The Aegis system, at the time, was a highly complex, highly sophisticated, and largely automated system that had seen little combat prior to this incident. Not to say the absolves anyone of responsibility, but anomalies, familiarity, even protocols change over time on newly established military systems, leading us all to safely assume that a "learning curve"...yes, that term can be used even with complex, expensive, military systems, is bound to happen. A lot of the events leading to this misfortunate event can be described by coincidence, confusion, and bad timing. This was not a clear-cut case of America's supposed willful neglect or trigger-happy attitude we are accused of having. Errors on both sides resulted in the loss of 290 lives that day. Iran knew the area was an active conflict zone, they had every opportunity to re-route aircraft. They also could have...I don't know, not instigated in the first place. For every one person that claims the US "oversteps it's boundaries" or "is in places it shouldn't be" has also enjoyed the benefits of the same problems. Name a part of the world America hasn't helped protect, helped recover from a disaster, or warded off enemies of a lesser defended country. I'll wait. With that being said, America was also at fault for this incident. There are reports that the captain was dismissive of warnings, the crew making mistakes on configuring/monitoring certain aspects of the newly integrated Aegis system, and other issues like lack of due diligence. To that last part, however, I will say that I'm sure few of you have ever been in an actively contested zone with a non-responsive, potentially enemy aircraft just 12 miles away (which is not a lot of distance when you're flying 400mph) approaching you head-on. America was at fault, Iran was at fault. A complex series of misfortune events lead to the loss of 290 lives. If anyone thinks America shot down a civilian aircraft intentionally, or with little regard to the life lost, that's nothing more than self-hatred for your own country or for America.
@liveandlearn3339
2 ай бұрын
omg.... wat a messs.. classic
@dipankarbarooah3392
Ай бұрын
It was all American Military fault it was a masaacare 1 billion dolar ship and cannot detect a civilian plane looms strange.
@ralts6464
3 ай бұрын
When the technology is so great that you think you cannot get hit unless you dont defend and blames the captain for getting hit. So in war, every captain is demoted for getting hit because their responsibility is not to get hit lmao
@kaziervin0975
3 ай бұрын
why didnt flight 665 respond?
@sabine8419
2 ай бұрын
Because they used an obscure emergency frequency, that isn't always monitored.
@george.a_m
3 ай бұрын
“Feared for my life” can get you out of any mess huh . I would hate to be that guy, but it just feels like very little value was placed on the lives lost, I will not say more Very United States of America
@paulphotios3920
3 ай бұрын
And the sepos complain about the malaysian plane shot down in ukaine. Hypocracy at its best.
@krishnandachakpram5165
2 ай бұрын
USA still think that they can do whatever they want and narrate any story. USA stop poking your nose at others territory.
@Fishslayer007
Ай бұрын
As a former US Army veteran with quite of a lot of years in. I can tell you that the navy screws up more than other branches. Their lack of qualified leaders, training and discipline. Even without technology, and obviously not so high tech to discern between an airliner and combat aircraft. Common sense should've prevailed. If i were the fleet commander in that AO. It would've ordered a couple of F-14s in the air to recon that aircraft. And obviously they can engage if they were military and hostile. Instead, you placed America into an embarrassing situation and a costly one at the tax payers expense. But most of all, a lot of innocent souls could've been spared.
@b.entranceperium
Ай бұрын
Internet Army dude states the Navy is the most incompetent. Source "Trust me bro". Sit tf down... You don't know what you're talking about...
@night_light2867
3 ай бұрын
Just go see the library and unfallow they dont bring anything new
@Sammy-xz6ov
16 күн бұрын
So so does this mean that the war ship security readers can’t determine what kind of air craft is approaching ,this is your a documentary to turn our mind ,USA is too clear for such stories that hurt the horses tail 😂,they killed the passengers for retaliation or maybe let me say fear Of fire that will struck struck the ship
@rifatrahmanchowdhurytushar
3 ай бұрын
Another day of thanking god for not making me an American
@aljilhano5822
3 ай бұрын
America stinks! It sucks to be an American. A pie is better than who they are.
@legitbeans9078
3 ай бұрын
Im every day thanking god that i dont believe in god
@rifatrahmanchowdhurytushar
3 ай бұрын
@@legitbeans9078 well that's you who wanted to be an idiot
@destry232
2 ай бұрын
Why does everyone want to give everything to live here though??
@Jyoumon
3 ай бұрын
Simple issue of Wrong place, Wrong Time, and Failures land on both sides. That region of the world is always dangerous, for the simple fact that many of its people are religiously brainwashed and mislead by others time and time again.
@everestcheats2622
2 ай бұрын
How is their any fault on the civilian aircraft? It was flying through an international air corridor setup for commercial flights, it was squawking the correct code, and it had never received any communication from the ship (regardless of the many lies told by the captain and his men)
@Jyoumon
2 ай бұрын
@@everestcheats2622 there was less fault on the civilian aircrafts side no doubt there, and I'm sure the ship absolutely tried to contact them, though in a very round about way, simply said, mistakes were made, the plane never even attempted communication, the airport fricked up having military and civilian aircraft on the same airfield. The ship had more issues but many of them things the crew had no way to avoid or were locked into a US or them mindset thanks to the hostiles using immoral/unethical tactics, the biggest was simply not having any real way to contact civilian communication at the time, but the other was failing to follow orders of sending the bird only.
@mohammedahmedgaafarelkhali7592
Ай бұрын
What kinda bull crap bs is this.
@Miguel-u5u5r
Ай бұрын
Probably many of the crew came in their pants when they shot down the plane.
@Mrbiteof83
3 ай бұрын
Hello
@parttysetzer6247
3 ай бұрын
This us a difficult one why didn't the capitan of the plane answer the ship capitan.. clearly it was both parties fault. Ans instance life's lost
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