The turbo motor had more power within usable range of redline for high performance. The V8 had a more even torque curve but was a bit too linear to make peak power all near redline. So, shifts would put the turbo car in an equal HP zone, but the V8 would lose a bit after each shift. If the turbo car had larger spacing between gears, it would’ve fallen on its face to the V8.
@derblaue
2 жыл бұрын
well obviously the i4 will be at a disadvantage with worse gearing.
@bennyboyy7
2 жыл бұрын
That's how high power turbos work. I prefer the torque benefits of more cylinders/displacement but the gas mileage a 4 cylinder is mint. A mid range turbo on a 4 cylinder is best of both worlds. More torque across the board, more power, and better gas mileage but trying to squeeze v8 power like that out of a 4 cylinder is not easy. Forged internals are a necessity
@PendingEvolution
2 жыл бұрын
spool also lost inbetween shifts
@b.andrei84
2 жыл бұрын
And don't forget, V8 are more reliable than his competitor.But V8 are less efficient in terms of consumption.
@tomsterbg8130
2 жыл бұрын
@@derblaue It's not the worse gearing for one car, if the gearing was longer for both cars then the V8 would have won because the turbo pressure isn't enough at lower RPM for the I4
@tomshepard9050
2 жыл бұрын
Mechanic here: To make the race fair: 1. N/a deal with inefficiency at the top end while Turbo excels at. 2. Therefore gearing is unfair for v8 despite being almost identical, needs to be much shorter. 3. As u can see V8 gears feel ‘taller’ despite being slightly shorter. 4. The V8 car is 100-200lb heavier. Turbo 4s will always have massive pwr/weight advantage over V8s. But if we can bring in lighter and more efficient V8 that can bring the difference within 50-100lb, the gap will close. Anyway, don’t take anything as absolution. This is physics, and it’s all about the balancing of numbers. Nothing is better, just numbers to get what u want.
@dethpepper8595
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that's the point, turbo 4 cylinder has the advantage of being lighter then a v8 The rest of the game is just where the motor puts it's power TBH it looks like a fair fight, now we have to wait for turbo V8 vs turbo 4 cylinder
@trae3290
2 жыл бұрын
I love that we can come here and just talk engines but it is all physics at the end of the day. First commenter did say that’s the advantages of the in-line but i would indeed like to see an more fair comparison. If not using a lighter v8 use a lighter car or identical car. I don’t think the creator will redo all these videos but it’s just the idea
@dartmansam10
2 жыл бұрын
Youre also forgetting that the 8cyl is revving until 8k rpm which is pretty ridiculous. Highest ive seen most v8s have been 7 7.5 maxx
@leandromagnus5985
2 жыл бұрын
The powerband is one of the most important factors, V8 engines have a bad powerband in comparison to 4cyl
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer
2 жыл бұрын
@@dartmansam10 no, the author said that its a dohc v8, and dohc v8s in automation handle high rpm very good
@fry.master
2 жыл бұрын
the v8 fell out of the powerband during shifts, you can clearly see the wheel horsepower readout being 20-45 behind the turbo car for the first half of every gear. You really need to get that number equal across working rpm range to make it close. Horsepower, and the average wheel number you see in that box during the time of a pull, is all that matters for acceleration of two equally massive bodies.
@nvcnc
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Keeping the gearing the same is counterintuitively an 'unfair' way of testing. Also brings back the discussion of the silliness of 'torque vs hp', but I digress. A good way of showing how gearing is important, imagine if we put a v8 from the previous gen F1 cars in this. That's a 750+ HP v8, should stomp these two cars right? well, not if you kept the gearing the same. See, these v8's only produced about 280ft/lbs of torque, the only reason they made 750hp is because they could rev up 18-19k rpm. Now if you could gear it properly so that you wouldn't lug this engine then yes, it would demolish these two cars. After all, it would have a 250hp advantage (not to mention the engine itself is extremely light as well).
@schkann1384
2 жыл бұрын
the I4 somehow has more torque than the V8. why is that
@fry.master
2 жыл бұрын
@@schkann1384 the turbo is throttled to flow 500hp worth of air to that 4 cylinder, as long as it’s spooled. 500hp worth of air is going to make 500lb ft of torque at 5252 rpm, and if you plot the math of horsepower, the torque line will follow it perfectly, tapering at the top end to make the same peak as the v8. The v8 however does not have the turbo cramming peak horsepower amounts of air throughout its entire rpm band, therefore only makes its torque for half the rev range. This actually isn’t that big of a deal if you had it geared to stay in the band, or made the band wider for the v8 with boost too, it would be the same as the other.
@2ndgencadi189
2 жыл бұрын
This guy I believe doesn’t know a lot about cars and is messing around making content. He straight piped a V8 which sounds horrible and then made it rev to 8k which good luck trying to make a V8 rev to 8K unrealistic in my opinion and most V8s power would drop significantly like you wouldn’t be making power above 6k realistically
@kanjo7132
2 жыл бұрын
sounds like v8 fan cope to me.
@matthewgriffith2078
2 жыл бұрын
The benefit of the larger displacement v8 is the length of the life of the engine. That is a little bit harder to simulate which one loses compression and goes in the trash first.
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r
2 жыл бұрын
Depends, Turbo engines are usually built using better components than an NA v8. Most are way overbuilt for their purpose so they will last a very long and happy life even under boost. However na 4 with boost added vs na v8 and the stock 4 will not be happy for a super long time. I have had a couple of Turbo 4 with over 300000 miles on them so it is definitely possible.
@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19
2 жыл бұрын
4-cylinder Toyota engines: Hold my Sake 🍶
@Digi20
2 жыл бұрын
The lifetime of an engine is completely up to how well it is built. its really not possible to determine by displacement or power/displacement alone (may have been so 1965 - is not so today). an I4 turbo engine with the same power as a v8 with double the displacement will use much stronger and more high end components to archieve the same design lifetime. in fact in many cases it is more expensive for the manufacturer to put a smaller more sophisticated engine (with same or more power) in a new car compared to an older model with bigger but more neanderthal engine. many people believe manufacturers cheap out by putting fewer cylinders in the cars - in general they do not, even the opposite is true. its done for emission and fuel consumption figures these days. the manufacturers must comply with those and thus have to go this way.
@matthewgriffith2078
2 жыл бұрын
That’s kind of my point. They require more parts, more work, more money and have more points of failure. Comparing the two, there is a wide range in quality in v8 engines as well. A lot of cheap iron v8s top 1 million miles. It’s just much easier to make a simple 527cu in v8 and as long as it’s lubricated there is really no reason for it to ever stop running. No valve clashing with pistons, no blowing head gaskets, no crazy heat to dissipate, no computers, no sleeves, no timing belts. I also really enjoy what comes out of the oppression of the Japanese government. But even in a Honda I prefer 2.0 na over a single cam turbo. It’s just not going to break as much. Even an engine that has been built for turbo, a 500hp 4 cylinder is a lot of heat and it all has to come out of 4 cylinders instead of 8. The turbo system has more failure points in the cooling system. That is usually the difference between a 300k mileage motor and an odometer rolling over. Maybe a 200hp 4 cylinder with 3-8bls of boost and high end components and upgraded cooling system should last as long as the computer in the car. But not a 500 hp on a 100cu in 4 cylinder with 20bls + of boost. That will not last as long as an na v8. Toyota has given up on manufacturing motors. They said “this is too hard, let’s just buy one.”😅
@martinstankov8109
2 жыл бұрын
I never see that arguement when people compare diesel VS gasoline :D
@floppychzcake7936
2 жыл бұрын
One thing people always overlook when building a racecar is reliability. That V8 will be around mch longer than the 4cyl. It's called block longevity. The V8 has more displacement to disperse that power. meaning less stress on the engine
@rodrigofilho1996
2 жыл бұрын
That has more to do with engine components quality/materials used.
@b-chroniumproductions3177
2 жыл бұрын
@Obunga 1 A lightly modified 500hp V8 is still much more reliable than a 4cyl being fed shit tons of boost.
@coleknight7572
2 жыл бұрын
While you’re not wrong it does matter. Each cylinder in the 4 is making 125hp Each cylinder in the v8 is making 62hp. That’s ALOT less stress on individual rods, bearings, and pistons
@coleknight7572
2 жыл бұрын
No he’s got a point. Stock 5.3s and 6.0 LS’s are hitting 300k on the regular. Ever see an untouched ej20 or 25 with that many miles? The 4cylinder is making 125hp per cylinder. The v8 is making 62hp per cylinder. That’s literally half the stress
@johnoystlouis8032
2 жыл бұрын
@@coleknight7572 ej25 blew not too long ago 😭
@popeyeandstraussmx4165
2 жыл бұрын
The 4 cylinder having 40lbs of boost probably had something to do with how good it performed lmao
@zachlemay88
2 жыл бұрын
The V8 having 4 more cylinders and bigger displacement probably gives it an advantage too lol.
@MrZyLeXx
2 жыл бұрын
@@zachlemay88 40 psi is equal to 2.78 bar which basically makes the I4 a bigger engine than the V8 (Since the V8 is a small DOHC 4L)
@MrZyLeXx
2 жыл бұрын
@@zachlemay88 maybe i worded it wrong but it goes through more air during the same amount which basically means it's simulating a bigger engine(kind of, lol)
@Dubz0408
2 жыл бұрын
@@zachlemay88 The average US semi truck makes 300-600hp and 2000-3000ft-lb of torque and they dont even run 40psi. This 40psi 4cyl would either have diesel block and rotating assembly and still somehow revs to 8k rpm, or cost 6figs, or both. I like(and own) boosted cars and V8's, this comparison just isnt realistic and seems meant to glorify the turbo engine and bash V8's. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
@zachlemay88
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dubz0408 Im not saying its realistic.. I was just answering the comment. The whole point of the video is to compare 4 vs 8 cylinders. In order to do that he needed to pump 40psi to have even power
@lieutenantdan2233
2 жыл бұрын
i think the 190 test in particular would be better if the redline wasnt ridiculously high for a v8. definitely fell out of its happy spot rpm wise. even if the redline was at 8k so the comparison was more apples to apples i think its not a good comparison.
@derblaue
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, the V8 needs a higher RPM limit to keep the engine at a higher average power. Engine torque doesn't matter, only the power curve.
@ForgottenMustard
2 жыл бұрын
The v8 is only 4 liters so it needs revs to make power. kzitem.info/news/bejne/p6iCk217pmSkZmk
@b-chroniumproductions3177
2 жыл бұрын
@@derblaue The curve is literally just a function of torque multiplied by rpm
@sigmamale4147
2 жыл бұрын
@@derblaue hahaha what ? Seeing how the torque curve was going down, higher rpm wouldnt be able to keep the hp up
@derblaue
2 жыл бұрын
@@b-chroniumproductions3177 Yes I know. But there are different ways to get the same power curve with different engine torque and rpm limit. So high torque is not necessarily a lot of power.
@Kumoiwa
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a turbo fan but being realistic that i4 would be a nightmare to drive. It has a lot of boost which translates into a lot of lag. No torque under 3k rpm, so it'd get super bad gas mileage. But for racing purposes the i4 is lighter and has a better powerband.
@serkovskyy732
2 жыл бұрын
this type of engines are great for rally cuz they are known for getting up to speed fast in short distances between corners. in rally u typically stay at red line in optimum range of turbo.
@daya1253
2 жыл бұрын
You could just program to the boost come earlier, but would lose power at higher revs
@lordhunterluasuperior905
2 жыл бұрын
@@daya1253 cars with twin turbo or three have this issue? In my mind one come earlier and the other with higher speed.
@Kumoiwa
2 жыл бұрын
@@serkovskyy732 in rally and all types of racing too
@thatslegit
Жыл бұрын
A 8000 rpm v8? Thats only possible if it weighs the same as a normal i4 so no the 500hp turbo i4 would be way to heavy
@Matthias..8----------D
2 жыл бұрын
V8 had a different power curve, thats why when shifting it always slowed down compared to the i4. The i4 wasnt "slightly" lighter it was 60kg lighter wich is a lot of difference. The i4 turbo also had lot more torque what really matters in 0-62mph for example
@thatslegit
Жыл бұрын
500hp and 40 pounds of boost, thats not possible unless its a heavy 4cylinder to hold that amount of power. second in order for a v8 to hit 8000 rpm it needs to be very light weight, as light as a normal i4 in order to hit a high rpm threshold. third, theres something called turbo lag and that i4 wont hit 0-60 in any record time unless it boost launch first, if that big turbo lets it boost Intime of course, (can take from 5 seconds to 15 seconds to get the boost)
@jkyablze1854
2 жыл бұрын
The V8 sounds so good ~~~
@chincemagnet
2 жыл бұрын
When you’re racing the turbo 4 cylinder is going to be at an advantage because it’s always in the power band, when it would be at a severe disadvantage would be in the lower rev range.
@heito0
2 жыл бұрын
a guy with a $2000 civic and a turbo is everyone's biggest nightmare on the road
@shanechambers9529
2 жыл бұрын
You really think a guy with a $2000 civic is running 40 PSI? Hint: No.
@LosSkywolfGTR
2 жыл бұрын
V8 doesn't sound like my weed eater when I use it. V8 wins.
@zerotiv
2 жыл бұрын
I know thats why rallycar using inline 4, instead of v8
@farhanpratama0285
2 жыл бұрын
Rally Group B vs Muscle car.
@Vanbooskie
2 жыл бұрын
This was a super freaking cool video
@stepnephew4124
Жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched yet but I can guarantee that with how accurate beamng is, power to weight will come into play heavily.
@Danno419
2 жыл бұрын
A NA V8 v.s. a Turbo 4. Not a very good comparison because the power band layout is alot different under boost compaired to NA. Look at the power curves.
@Bolero6879
2 жыл бұрын
Its almost like thats the entire point of the video
@unsafevelocities5687
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting test, and for the most part it went exactly how I guessed it would because of weight. The top speed being the same is obviously due to both being 500hp with the same aerodynamics. I'm a huge V8 fan but I drive 4-cylinder cars IRL so I don't have a dog in the weird, predicable fight that's going on in this comments section. That said, although there are some 1000+hp four-bangers, the 4-cylinder here has be pretty close to being a max effort build, so I'd take the lazy/lazier V8.
@Kumoiwa
2 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@unsafevelocities5687
2 жыл бұрын
@@Thatone188 I am talking a sustainable build and idk much about Honda engines. Will it cope like that for long? I mean, you can probably get 500hp out of many car engines if you don't mind measuring engine life in seconds. Also, you'd probably need a fuel system right, as I doubt the K series or any 4-cylinders come with 500 hp rated fuel rails?
@brendanfecteau3891
2 жыл бұрын
@@unsafevelocities5687 upgraded pumps stock block k series push 500 reliability. Its all in the tuning
@unsafevelocities5687
2 жыл бұрын
@@brendanfecteau3891 Fair enough, but I still have my doubts. As I said before, I don't know enough about that engine to say anything about it specifically. However, I've seen bolt on modified engines produce way more than stock and hold together well until they're stripped down and it's found that they've been hurting for some time. Usually the rotating assembly gets chewed up by excessive friction. They make 'em with some margin but tuners usually exceed that and should really be changing rings, compression, etc. especially when pushing high boost.
@zloychechen5150
Жыл бұрын
@@unsafevelocities5687 in many parts of the world i think it's cheaper to build an i4 to 400 hp than to LS swap anything. where i live though, for getting power, a turbo JZ is the easiest thing to have.
@fifossucrilhos
2 жыл бұрын
The l4 has a larger area under power/rpm curve so delivers more energy as you accelerate.
@Hellafast2uDude
Жыл бұрын
And its lighter.
@drspeed2006
2 жыл бұрын
I'd still prefer a V8 anyday just because it's simplicity and sound, with the drivability and did I forget to mention sound?
@clumsyshtick7543
2 жыл бұрын
I don't want to sound rude or serious, but I think I would choose the turbocharged Inline 4, there are a lot of advantages its primary balance is balanced making for a turbo application to be reliable, since its an engine that is meant for turbocharging it has no problem to be run even under stressful circumstances, The inline 4 would probably have greater fuel economy with being light and same performance like the v8.
@drspeed2006
2 жыл бұрын
@@clumsyshtick7543 but the sound bro
@clumsyshtick7543
2 жыл бұрын
@@drspeed2006 This going to be Controversial but I prefer a small displacement with less cylinder engine for the obvious reasons just like my first reply.
@Fhwgads11
2 жыл бұрын
@@drspeed2006 I’m not the guy you were responding to but this is a pretty low value point to me. I don’t like drawing a ton of attention from bystanders so my IRL car has almost full bolt-ons but stock catback because I’d rather just be fast than broadcast to the world I’m going fast. There’s lots of bad sounding i4s but there’s plenty that sound great and i’d much rather have the off boost mpg of a 2.0 liter too
@mitebadopted3894
2 жыл бұрын
Prefer V8s too, mainly because i'm into bigger vehicles
@johnbelwell2461
2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the guy who would show me a small I4 turbo peaking at 400hp with 200hp at 2500rpm like an Ls2 and similar torque curve.
@dousebicth2901
2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty interesting, but I'm curious on what would happen if each engine was built to maximum HP or toughness. As I imagine one will out produce the other but the other may out survive it's counter part. Also would be interesting to see the stock engines as they are rn just redlined and see which one last longer or cools better, rather it stationary or moving. Anyways good work and keep the science that no one else wants to answerer or ask a coming.
@StreetRacingLifeStyle
2 жыл бұрын
The gears needed to be optimized for the low end torque of the v8 Notice in the last 190 pull the V8 started reeling in the turbo pretty hard it likes the low to mid range whereas the turbo car liked high end
@derblaue
2 жыл бұрын
Even then the v8 can't keep up with the i4 as long as the i4 stays within the powerband of the turbo. The power curve of the i4 above 4500 is just much better for performance. Under 4500 it's a different story. But as long as the i4 can keep it's rpm over 4500 the v8 can't compete. The power curve of the v8 is just worse.
@cooperturbo4598
2 жыл бұрын
The most useful test for real life would be the 50 to 80 mph in top gear though
@JETZcorp
2 жыл бұрын
The V8 had a powerband like a HUGE Honda B-series. Like a Ferrari V8.
@mattkendrick9908
2 жыл бұрын
What simulation are you running? I would love to have it so I can play around with different settings and stuff. I love how you kept it more real life. Turbo cars tend to have more torque than na v8 so even with identical HP numbers the torque numbers typically are favor of the Turbo. Making everything dead even wouldn’t be true to real world and I like that you kept it that way.
@censei743
2 жыл бұрын
4 cylinder is still never a v8 just from power alone that 4cylinder almost at max drivable power with boost 😂
@Drunken_Hamster
2 жыл бұрын
A more realistic example would be the V8 only revs to 6500, makes 500hp and about 450tq. The 4-cyl would rev to 8000 and that 500hp would calc to about 375tq. It would also have not that much until about 3500rpm, then quickly rise until peak boost at 4000-4500 or so, while the V8 would be laying fat numbers starting around 2500-3000. Also to compensate the different RPM, the 4-cyl would have shorter gearing (just the final drive so the trans space between gears matches) to the point where each one has the same top speed in each gear. 4-cyl would prob win. V8 would be more fun to drive without changing gears as much, and more controllable in the midrange, but kinda less controllable down low. 4-cyl would prob get better gas mileage, especially if you're going easy on it. Oh, I forgot to mention displacement: This is assuming about a 2.0L 4-cyl and a 6.0L V8. EDIT: Yeah the powerbands you have are way wrong, lol.
@yupyup4209
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 Pontiac GTO with the 6.0L LS2. The only thing done to it power-wise is longtube headers and a different intake. I got it dyno'd and it was making 350 something HP and 400 something torque to the wheels. But I know my engine is an outlier. Low on HP but high on torque for what that shop usually sees. Every engine is unique I guess
@Drunken_Hamster
2 жыл бұрын
@@yupyup4209 Yeah, you got some old school heads. Upgrade your heads and that bitch'll pump 500 EZ depending on the cam.
@rylgarage
2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve thought 40 pounds of boost and a huge weight difference would’ve been enough to completely outclass the v8… but there’s not that big of a gap besides top speed times
@TCPUDPATM
Жыл бұрын
A single number describes nothing. The area under the curved used for each run combined with traction and weight determines the winner. They’re notme here close, but I do appreciate the video!
@fhm609
2 жыл бұрын
what mod do you use to see all those indacators for the engine and shit
@austinblevins6804
2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real here everyone will pick the v8 over the i4 purely on sound alone. Plus take that turbo off and you'll pick the v8 because it's easier to make 500 without a power adder
@joels6736
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that you have the v8 cars TQ too low through the rpm band. You're telling me a i4 on 40 psi is making more TQ than a v8 at 4k rpm? It should be the other way around. My c5 z06 made 300 ft/lbs of TQ at 2500 rpms when it was bone stock. The TQ curve on a LS-1/3/6/7 v8 is not a gradual linear curve up the RPM band but more of a flat curve with a wide camel hump between 3500-6000 rpm. I suggest you look up some dyno graphs for some bolt LS engines and try to replicate that unless you're factoring for more of a European small displacement V8 which based on the 8250 rpm redline seems like you are. But look at the GT350 mustang that revs to 8250 rpm. It also makes over 300 Ft/lbs of TQ at 2500 rpm and has more of a wide camel hump TQ curve than linear. Your TQ curve on the i4T isn't too bad actually. It looks pretty good though I would argue it's making TQ a tiny bit early for 500hp/400tq 40 psi (not sure what turbo you'd run 40 psi on and only make 500 hp lmao) but still a pretty realistic curve. I would think peak TQ would be more like 5000 rpm rather than 4500 rpm but the 300 tq at 4000 rpm seems about right. Maybe just peak the TQ for that at 5000 rpm and drag the line over from 4000 rpm up a little more gradually.
@ForgottenMustard
2 жыл бұрын
The V8 has 4 liters of displacement Both engines were built in Automation: kzitem.info/news/bejne/p6iCk217pmSkZmk
@supergeekotaku
2 жыл бұрын
@4:00 mother of harmonies
@imadude85
2 жыл бұрын
That powerband of the yellow car will never make it into production.
@3ch0_17
2 жыл бұрын
V8 quicker from a dig, but once the 4 banger hits powerband(quite large), then it's almost always game over for v8
@elnyoutube123
2 жыл бұрын
No its not lmao
@3ch0_17
2 жыл бұрын
@@elnyoutube123 based
@derblaue
2 жыл бұрын
@@elnyoutube123 Only the power curve matters. If the i4 keeps over 4500 rpm the v8 shown here has no chance.
@elnyoutube123
2 жыл бұрын
@@derblaue the v8 was geared totally wrong
@Zentoven99
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have already peeped the flaw in this comparison so GT isn't wrong at all.
@anthonygorham5299
2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I wanted to average out my automation cars 0-60 I usually averaged it from 3 tries. The results can vary by half a second depending how ur driving it and reaction time, wheel spin.
@controll8777
2 жыл бұрын
Could you do the same test, different car but with a i4, i6, v6 and v8?
@trae3290
2 жыл бұрын
I got one want to say that v8 sounds insanee. That beginning pull put a smile on face. Even the little in-line too. Love hearing engines smack that redline.
@acedera16
2 жыл бұрын
Drag race please
@SaltypubKeepRolling
2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a inline 5/6 vs a v10/v12 could be interesting aswell just an idea enjoyed the vid was really good ^^
@iamnobody3793
2 жыл бұрын
First off cool video so no hate here just have some curiousity. What v8 was used in this test vs what i4 turbo? I know the v8 was dohc engine why not base it off an LS engine. Weight wise would have been closer. Why take to v8 past it's power band? Why use a manual? Auto would have been better for all test but top speed. Also would help with consistency. Why not improve the traction so they can both dead hook when needed? This would also make the test more consistent. It would be a cool test if you took the same 2 cars but gave each one an optimized setup for that particular engine.
@laurentiu.panait2536
2 жыл бұрын
I still love the v8 and if it were to be turbo/supercharged, it would give the already turbo'd 4 pot a run for its money, since you cannot push the 4 even more because its durability will go down
@jeffy69696
2 жыл бұрын
Not really lol if we’re talking ab turbo power then it will always favor les cylinders if the turbo is trying to support all 8 cylinders then ur going to need a bigger turbo and that leads to unreliability lol
@gabecarter6599
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffy69696 if you're building a race car who gives a shit about reliability? It's supposed to be fast
@canadianbluepants9446
2 жыл бұрын
@@gabecarter6599 the original comment was talking about reliability but yeah obviously youre doing this to make a race car so reliability doesnt matter and 4 bangers pretty much always win
@otrebor10vcf
Жыл бұрын
Mate, I would like to see a comparation of acceleration with the same car, same engine, same weight, and just changing gearbox ratio. How much faster is a short ratio gearbox?
@absenthurdle5666
2 жыл бұрын
bro someone get this mans a wheel
@Monte1970SS
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate except for the burnout....that part is completely false. I can promise you a 500hp v8 will win that every time over a boosted 4 banger of equal hp. The torque even with boost just not there until you get some really good wheel speed in the burnout...and on dry pavement you will struggle getting it lol. Where a v8 will just jump up and burn for days....done it with much lesser hp on drag radials, it'll still smoke show for days.
@mihneacireasa4613
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like there is replacement for displacement
@thatslegit
Жыл бұрын
that 4cyl should've took forever to spool up meaning it cant do anything until it passes 4k to 5k rpm(anything below 2k rpm will be the same as a N/A 4cyl), second, that must be a very heavy 4cyl in order to handle 500hp and 40psi of boost at 8k rpm, so ironically it be the same weight as a v8 engine. third, its only a turbo system, you'd loose all your boost as soon as you let go of gas when shifting. 8cyl must be very lightweight to hit 8k rpm so must actually weigh less than that heavy 4cyl, v8 will also win at low end torque
@novadestroyerthesundestroy890
2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I almost fell into a deep rabbit hole by reading this comments!
@joshuadykes3347
2 жыл бұрын
Please do one with a twin turbo v6 in a full size truck,and a regular V8 in a full size truck.
@flag_pl3912
2 жыл бұрын
100hp NA diesel VS 100hp NA gasoline VS 100hp Turbo diesel VS 100hp Turbo gasoline ! 😉
@tr1ppl3M
2 жыл бұрын
Torque... the 4 cyl will never make as much Torque as a v8 in real live
@tylersanders2388
2 жыл бұрын
Big difference is the turbo 4 burns oil 1 year later and blows up 5 years later. The v8 is unstressed from normal use
@isaacsrandomvideos667
2 жыл бұрын
the v8 sounds so good
@junesmotorworx
2 жыл бұрын
My CTS-V with 600hp engine runs 11.8 on 1/4 mile... They are faaaast!!!!
@ohhman9400
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing this game lack is the turbo realism, once you go past that 600hp mark it gets tricky. The more power you make the more lag you're going to see. To the plp who don't understand this is that psi does not mean power also and theres a cap to turbos! An precision 6466 1.15 A/R T4 turbo at 18psi will outflow an Garrett gt3076r 0.61 A/R T3 turbo at 27psi. In a straight line the 6466 will eat up the 3076r but at corners the 3076r will dominate and why? Bc the 3076r is a smaller trim turbo and there is a little to no lag vs the 6466 where it has alot of lag but has top end. What I'm trying to say here is that a tiny turbo is good for low/mid end but will fall on its face on the top end and the big turbo is just all top end.
@R3AL-AIM
2 жыл бұрын
It's the weight and power band of the car making the most difference.
@epiphoneguy8392
2 жыл бұрын
How many real world passes would a 4 banger last running a turbo at 40 PSI? lol..
@epsilon4052
2 жыл бұрын
If you are running a 40lb psi setup then your either stupid or have the money for forged rods pistons heads plus a good block. At that point a lot of it would have to be custom seeing as the aftermarket community is still so limited. But if you can fab good you could probably make it last a while.
@Psychosis955
2 жыл бұрын
40 psi? Nothing special. A stock BMW N57S pushes 33~ lbs. A properly built engine can live a long happy life at 40 psi.
@michaelharrisson1683
2 жыл бұрын
To make an accurate test... The gear should absolutely be different as peak numbers happen at different rpm for both motors. Fail
@Racer2123
2 жыл бұрын
omg… V8 500hp car is like dodge viper launch-start
@LostInPhilly89
Жыл бұрын
In most turbocharged cars, peak boost is a couple of RPM (x1000) before the red line, then it slowly tapers off. Here, the turbo car maintained peak boost regardless of the RPM. Not exactly true to a real-world scenario.
@rahulpenumala2517
2 жыл бұрын
Dude try to add some summary in the last. I request you
@blendpinexus1416
Жыл бұрын
welp, this is easy proof that 500hp will make burnouts all day long with ease
@SugmaNatsu
2 жыл бұрын
Related to the 2 million rpm truck, try doing that again but add like, a 1000 ton flywheel and do tests with it
@rickitysplitz7035
Жыл бұрын
I will always take a naturally aspirated V8 over an inline 4 turbo
@J.F.K.O
2 жыл бұрын
imagine that a v8 that revs to 8k and sounds like it's american
@BibboRacing96
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the subtle changes
@ligmagiga
Жыл бұрын
The turbo on yellow car 💀
@LVNorthWest
2 жыл бұрын
500 HP V8 vs 500 HP V10 next?
@azurantaiki
2 жыл бұрын
In most part of asia we get taxed more for bigger engine displacement so we will always go for small displacement boosted car.
@G.A.M.Y.
2 жыл бұрын
Even with the difference between how torque is delivered i would go for the v8
@sinegra30
2 жыл бұрын
OHV V8 are dinosaurs (in the bad and ugly way)
@jugobetrugo7213
Жыл бұрын
the 4banger has more torque - i dont know why u compare 500hp/415lb-ft inline 4 turbo vs 500hp/350lb-ft v8 its obvious the 4banger wins
@przg354
Жыл бұрын
U have to start compare cars with lower set HP, because they all the time burning wheels then its immpossible to compare which one are better
@adamdavies1249
2 жыл бұрын
gearing was off on the v8 car but this does bring up an interest question of reliability okay in this test turbo wins in speed but how long can it do this before reliability issues creep in
@3n3ly7m9
2 жыл бұрын
Ha. The 4 Cyl burns more fuel cause it needs more to make the same amount of power due to the increased PSI 2mpg compared to the 4mpg at 120mph
@blademaster2701
2 жыл бұрын
I used to think that v8’s are for the weak but now I take back everything I said.
@kbnoise9625
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the argument about the "there's no replacement for displacement." Like a i4 turbo is going to beat a V8 turbo (I know the V8 in the video isn't a turbo). 2.0L i4 turbo will make more power then a 1.6L i4 turbo. More volume for more air for more fuel FOR MORE POWER!!!
@szodraigergo4008
Жыл бұрын
With the same power output the bigger engine will always be more reliable because of the size. It can absorb the power better.Less stress for the engine overall.
@defyingtheodds1987
2 жыл бұрын
I’d beat v8’s often with my turbo 4 cylinder
@bennyboyy7
2 жыл бұрын
Should do at least 3 runs when you do the drag race and 0-60
@fal121
2 жыл бұрын
Turbo power will always beat the same amount of n/a power
@PeterGriffin-kb2hf
2 жыл бұрын
Could you do this, fix some variables as others said and add in the supercharged v6?
@sijonda
2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the v8 had a realistic torque curve.
@kevinkidman912
2 жыл бұрын
a video game simulation wtf a 500hp 4 cylinder is going to win due to weight but even if the v8 would win it would be a dam close race
@HotGritz910
Жыл бұрын
40 psi of boost for just 500 hp is unrealistic...what size turbo is that?
@peterhorak2964
2 жыл бұрын
V8 has bigger Torque, so on the uphill, it´ll be faster than the V4 engine.. On the other hand, 4-cylinder will faster reach the top speed and overall be faster on drag race than the V8, because it´s lighter :)
@fff-nt7xy
Жыл бұрын
Cok cok iyi mukemmel bir video ve tum degerleri acik acik gostermen harika yapiyor videoyu. Cidden mukemmel bilgi videosu arabalar icin
@HioSSilver1999
2 жыл бұрын
Works great in a vid game. In real lyfe that 4cyl is gonna get its ass handed to it.
@marcinsmolinski903
2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, why to choose. V8 twin Turbo is the answer
@bobbystewart2605
Жыл бұрын
The power levels aren’t the same, lighter car had more power while the heavier car has less
@soulsnatcher5408
Жыл бұрын
Logically hp doesn't really matter. What it really comes down to is torque and weight. 500hp vs 300hp and 600lb ft.
@T-HobbiesG45
2 жыл бұрын
Got to do. A pulling test
@xellos305
Жыл бұрын
They still need a better engine sound design.
@shonuff601dj
2 жыл бұрын
Look at them torque numbers, why they so high? Lol
@bigpharmasports9120
Жыл бұрын
I'm not an engineer but isn't 30 lbs of boost kinda ridiculous?
@shawnphillips4941
2 жыл бұрын
The V8 would need more displacement and a lower redline to really be competitive. That torque distributed over the entire power curve is what makes a car faster.
@Kumoiwa
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 You got no clue
@SlyNine
2 жыл бұрын
Huh? Torque and RPM make HP. It's HP that matters.
@thatslegit
Жыл бұрын
All cars make peak power at redline, but as this simulation is its actually very poor, the v8 would've won every category except for top speed. (Also v8 is doing 8000 rpm which is not normal so it is a light weight v8 engine being used)
@worldhello1234
2 жыл бұрын
Muscle car power is manlier but the metrosexual 4 cylinder turbo performs bedda as the Aussies say.
@P00katube
2 жыл бұрын
Now let's see the same cars do burnouts WITHOUT TIRES🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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