This video managed to be late by 48hours simply because I forgot to send the files to my editor. my bad. sorry for the late video and thank you for your support.
@Evil_blastYT
2 жыл бұрын
Your human problems happen
@acampbell2499
2 жыл бұрын
Well she streamed on Saturday and it was a disaster. There's no other word for it. Appreciate Mizkif a lot after talking to her on stream trying to calm her down. He gave her valuable advice on how to handle controversy, since this is her first time facing this amount of backlash and hate. She's taking some time off social media. Hope she feels much better soon.
@cadycastle9957
2 жыл бұрын
This shit is nothing but overpriced basic skin care with SPF added. Let's stop already and she can eat it if she thinks people telling her this is being mean
@Asura_xs
2 жыл бұрын
Optimus said the same shit
@MykleRiverA
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video using like 80% of other's content.
@MultiJordan2005
2 жыл бұрын
She claims that the website was supposed to have studies on blue light but they couldn't publish the studies because then "someone could steal the idea". It's frustrating. The only reason to hide their own studies is if they aren't favorable
@HeyitsBri_
2 жыл бұрын
Or they don’t have any
@hisen3.146
2 жыл бұрын
They did post their studies. They just uploaded them to WebMD to make sure that no-one but them would cite it.
@themexicanwolverine
2 жыл бұрын
If it's a product that is unique they would have patented so no one could steal the idea. This was a bullshit product and now they are trying to fix their mess.
@tonypeppermint5329
2 жыл бұрын
@@hisen3.146 Assuming it was real.
@jayendrakurukulasekara6610
2 жыл бұрын
I think she just pretended to be dumb for her advantage. Any 20 year old would know that a study done by the company making the product would be biased. And in grade 12, we are always taught to use "peer reviewed" sources when researching. Didnt she know how biased and misleading a study can be?
@chadsmith8982
2 жыл бұрын
I'd bet a hundred buck's she totally believed everything she was saying/claiming.
@eggy7346
2 жыл бұрын
You can hear it in her tone, it's hilarious
@spottyhead
2 жыл бұрын
She's simply "manifesting the knowledge" LOL. Maybe she's born with it, maybe it's the need to touch grass
@banankung7178
2 жыл бұрын
and she apparently worked on this for 2 years with her ''team''
@luvforpandy
2 жыл бұрын
@@spottyhead maybe its maybelline 🤷🏽♀️🤣
@benfletcher8100
2 жыл бұрын
I once saw a quote that was either from or about that one Aussie serial killer Ivan Milat and he’d convinced himself he’d done nothing wrong by just repeating it as a mantra and the quote was something like “If you can convince yourself, you can convince anyone” or something like that
@bluetiger2468
2 жыл бұрын
I think her problem is that she was surrounded by "yes" people. People blindly supporting her. That's why you have to surround yourself with real friends. Fake friends support you no matter what, real friends want what is best for you and if you are making a mistake, they will tell you. But if you are the type of person that doesn't accept criticism, you're going to end up surrounding yourself by "yes" people.
@monimoo88
2 жыл бұрын
I used to watch her streams and it took less than a year to discover she’s very sensitive to criticism. Anytime someone in her chat says anything she doesn’t like even if it’s in support of her she’s gets toxic. I’ve literally heard her ask chat how to do something in a game and when they try to tell her she tells them to shut up and let her figure it out herself or she’ll end stream. I’ve seen someone donate to tell her not to focus on the hate and just to enjoy the game and her tell them to shut the fuck up and leave stream if they want to tell her what to do. I’ve heard her call her entire chat sick and disgusting and toxic because they joked that her friend sykkuno was cheating at battleship. When she is winning she’s a crap talker and loud and braggy and encourages people playing with her to team up on one other player, when she’s losing she’s the worst sore loser and shuts off her camera and wants to end stream early. She can’t handle anyone beating her. I personally don’t believe she went into this to scam, I think she was incredibly naive and believed the lies fed to her. She is vehemently defending the company’s research but since she’s repeatedly in the past claimed she isn’t very smart and has brain damage I’m sure why she won’t admit that they may have faked the research to fool her. She says yeah I have no background or knowledge of chemistry or science but yeah I saw the research….it makes no sense.
@bluetiger2468
2 жыл бұрын
@@monimoo88 Yeah... I've seen some of her streams, but I haven't watched that many. I lost a lot of respect for her when she started name dropping people that didn't support her scam like Jacksepticeye. She was basically calling out her friends that didn't blindly support whatever she does. Afterwards, she apologized and said she didn't realize she was sending hate to those people. Oh come on, I know she was in an emotional state at the time (Which is always a bad idea to stream when you're feeling that way), but she's been on the internet long enough to know she was sending hate to her friends by calling them out by name. She went from denial, anger, and now she's in damage control. This whole drama will probably blow over in a couple of weeks but hopefully she learned an important lesson. The lesson is, she isn't always right and she has to learn how to take constructive criticism properly instead of blocking it all out and calling it "hate". And she really needs to get second opinions about supporting a product instead of glancing at the "research" and deciding to support the company. Now she's stuck in a contract and has to pretend not to hate it.
@wilmagregg3131
2 жыл бұрын
@@monimoo88 sounds like ninja playing among us aka insufferable i still remeber the ONE time vanoss played with him and ninja just screamed over him and insulted him the whole time then said "good the quite guy left" when vanoss quit.
@sugasinfireration5863
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that is an excuse. You can't mess up and than point at other people because they didn't tell you that you are wrong, especially not on that level. She is an adult and needs to do her own research and make her own decision based on that.
@Miz_Velvet
2 жыл бұрын
@@monimoo88 wat makes me don’t like her even more when I was on kavos channel seeing that fake apology video she was putting her own friends in it like she was making it seem like they was the problem when they was just trying to support her little business and then if u go on her merch she actually selling those light things or whatever it is , that her fans saying that could do skin damage she clearly said that she wasn’t going to release it but she release it anyway and then told her fans that she’s not doing it for the money and that she doesn’t care about money if she don’t care why not sell it for free ? I use to like her back then but now I’m slowly starting not to anymore
@cutiecherrypie1
2 жыл бұрын
She could have sold her own blue light glasses if she wants to do something abt blue light and eye strain, and it would fit really well in with her brand
@YourMasta
2 жыл бұрын
Blue light glasses are also a scam. lol That’s how convoluted this subject is.
@PinkBlue_Spood
2 жыл бұрын
@@YourMasta They can help to a degree. I was prescribed them to try and limit excess eye strain, as my disability has symptoms where my eyes and vision are affected. It definitely has helped, but it’s nothing super significant like most people assume blue light blocking glasses would do.
@gunawanputera6443
2 жыл бұрын
@@PinkBlue_Spood but almost every device now have blue light filter
@Koozomec
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if i got more blue light from reading a sheet of paper under a household light or the sun compared to a digital screen.
@peepeepoopoo702
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s extremely obvious that someone told her the blue light is dangerous and gave her misinformation and they ran with it . She doesn’t seem like the type to knowingly let this happen.
@gamma00crucis
2 жыл бұрын
So she's just stupid and gullible. It takes one Google search. One. And reputable websites pop up first page.
@e.6335
2 жыл бұрын
@@gamma00crucis yea if she really cared about her fans she would have did her own research at home, instead of bullshitting around
@kyxkia329
2 жыл бұрын
bro she's ATLEAST 28, she isn't a kid, and her mistakes shouldn't be taken as "Awww she didn't know any better" because if she's investing her money and time in this she should research more and get clear straight facts. She couldn't have just turned a blind eye or just not have known for two years especially when it's as easy as a google search or asking any dermatologist about it.
@peepeepoopoo702
2 жыл бұрын
@@kyxkia329 I think we can all agree she’s an idiot for getting involved in something so obviously wrong but I don’t wanna put the full blame on her bc she didn’t do this ALONE. Someone, if not her, could’ve said “hey this isn’t correct that’s just not how this works” this was clearly a group effort . The company , production team. promoters … her!! Anyone could’ve said something
@cindy2106
2 жыл бұрын
Valkyrae would've got a lot of stonks if she created a chic and in style glasses that protects your eyes from blue light but nope skincare it is lol
@danielshore1457
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was just thinking glasses that people can wear to protect from blue light which would be useful for office workers and gamers who stare at a screen for hours at a time. Although tbf I think if that happened it would be memed on cause its like sunglasses for gamers but like at the same time it would just be memes and you wouldn't be called out for misinformation
@cindy2106
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielshore1457 yes I agree with you, worse case would be just gonna be unharmful meme for people to do a lil hihi haha which I think is a good attention for the product rather than whatever tf is this messy situation that she's in right now cuz not only it damaged her reputation but her fellow streamer friends that promotes her products.
@morganbishop7146
2 жыл бұрын
i mean you can’t blame her for wanting to do something different hahaha like blue light glasses already exist 🤷🏽♀️
@YourMasta
2 жыл бұрын
Blue light glasses are also a scam. It’s crazy how many people have an opinion on this situation with zero knowledge on it.
@mychemicalromancewillpierc5241
2 жыл бұрын
@@YourMasta I mean they really helped me. Whenever it gets late at night I used to squint and would actually start shedding tears because my eyes hated the light. The yellow glasses I wear help a lot with that.
@mrpw1402
2 жыл бұрын
Rae going after her “streamer friends” was the most messed up things I’ve seen on twitch
@tharuth
2 жыл бұрын
@That one nerdy-ish guy she addressed it on the second stream before Mizkif saved her from melting down even more.
@fantasykay9620
2 жыл бұрын
@That one nerdy-ish guy she wasn’t right in the head. She was having mix’s emotion with her self. That happens all the time when we are numb asff 😑
@admiralackbar4652
2 жыл бұрын
They aren't 'friends', just some kind of business partner.
@mrpw1402
2 жыл бұрын
@@admiralackbar4652 that’s why I put it in quotes, using her words
@admiralackbar4652
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrpw1402 Oh, got it
@nova_beam
2 жыл бұрын
Before people had the internet and actually took skin care seriously this may have slipped through without people noticing. Now a days there are plenty of skin care professionals that are there to push back on stupidity.
@YourMasta
2 жыл бұрын
Not really, since there are a ton of blue light creams out there already and tons of bullshit skincare products.
@nova_beam
2 жыл бұрын
@@YourMasta you just broke my brain. The only reason anyone even noticed this stupidity was a popular person is attached. It’s sad that this was what made people take a second look. I love skin care science channels and I haven’t seen any of them talk about this blue light nonsense.
@chocolatedonut6312
2 жыл бұрын
Daph had like the best take on this situation, she didn't just criticize the marketing but the product and the ingredients
@Angelicoir
2 жыл бұрын
skin care is very...complicated when it comes to balance. I just use cerave cleanser and moisturizer. and then I use a neutrogena sunscreen for my face and neck. but for other people...its different...like no one has the same skin type, and i highly doubt that your devices are damaging to your skin. you should be using your money for blue light glasses if anything to save your eyes from damage 😂
@dumdollidied1860
2 жыл бұрын
blue light doesn't actually harm your eyes 😶 it's all about eye strain
@Angelicoir
2 жыл бұрын
@@dumdollidied1860 my optometrist says different and so does my prescription. but everyone is entitled to their own opinion on what they believe.
@markgorman9325
2 жыл бұрын
I think at this stage it would be best to just do a series on the creators that aren't scamming, little few they are
@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Now, how many do we need to make “a series”? We might have to wait a while…
@psychedelicpayroll5412
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@wendyokoopa7048
2 жыл бұрын
I think you'd be looking at profiling a lot of smaller content creators.
@silasdementia
2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the product is a scam based on the current lack of information. I don't think it was malicious on Valkyrae's part. Doesn't change what it is though. Would be interested in a follow up video once more information is available and she actually does get on stream and start answering questions more directly. Though I think that was a good update on her part. That things are going to be updated and corrected before she speaks completely. Will have to see if that improves the situation any.
@okyep
2 жыл бұрын
She did the stream and I watched some of it. More or less they told her they can't post the studies due to them being brand secrets. Which she didn't know before starting. She said she really doesn't want to support the product and had a section where she more or less called out her "friends" for not saying anything before when she sent out early samples and waiting for the release of the product to shit on her brand.
@theILOVEFDP
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think she's intentionally misleading people. I think because she is a gamer, it's trying to market in a gamer type of way. However, instead of saying Blue light from screens, it should've been worded differently.
@jorilysmatos69
2 жыл бұрын
This! I think she doesn't fully understand how blue light work.
@lemonmuffin2656
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, blue light is harmful if your outside (so basically the sun). Then she should have targeted the product for sun damage, but then again there is no sunscreen. Dr. Dray has a good video on reacting to the the launch.
@cindy2106
2 жыл бұрын
yeah if she market it as sunscreen that's mix with skincare it would be acceptable but then again valkyrae first intention is probably to catch the gamer audience hence why she aim for blue light that leads to this messy situation.
@QueerCripple
2 жыл бұрын
I think if the wording had all been about how Blue Light from the aun is harmful, and that there are THEORIES that blue light from screens could also cause damage, it would be different. Then they aren't claiming that they have something proven to work, and they can market it as basically "yeah we don't know that blue light from screens can actually damage your skin or not, this product line has been made with the idea that we don't know yet and want to protect our skin before something bad happens". That would be different and more valid, IMO.
@ma_de_sa5848
2 жыл бұрын
But most phones have a blue light filter in the settings? And your main concern is protecting eyes from phones or monitor screens.
@dondon5011
2 жыл бұрын
Not so much protecting the eyes, but reducing headaches from blue light sources. Unlike wearing non filtered clear lenses in broad daylight, which actually does burn the eyes. But using "blue light" and "pollution" in the same sentence isn't the same as "light pollution" which is just the collection of street lights, city lights, and any form of light source making it hard to see the sky at night. No such thing as "blue light pollution". Also, computers have another filter for when you are playing in the dark. Its in the windows settings menu, called "night mode" but it makes everything orange.
@VoxNdoc
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Rae is just... I don't really know how to put it. Unaware? Not staying in her "profession" kinda deal. I honestly like rae's streams, I just hope she'll learn a lesson from this.
@jorilysmatos69
2 жыл бұрын
I think she doesn't fully understand how blue light works. She's always been concerned about the screens blue light. And she genuinely thought this would be helpful.
@Boxer4ever
2 жыл бұрын
She did live stream on YT, this is after she had good knowledge. Do you think she spoken sense? Like “I’m not co-founder I’m just collaborating, they told me just to put it there as co-founder because is shorter” I mean how much bs you can take?
@nathandrake6286
2 жыл бұрын
How did u forget the livestream where she threw youtubers under the bus for not being more “helpful” to her?
@cindy2106
2 жыл бұрын
lmao ikr as if it's their job to check the websites for any mistake but not her lol make it make sense.
@littlelil9582
2 жыл бұрын
Explain?☕️
@clover5360
2 жыл бұрын
@@littlelil9582 she was calling out people whom she thought were her friends yet did not check up on her when things were blowing up
@wilmagregg3131
2 жыл бұрын
@@clover5360 no she specifally was pissed they didnt DEFEND HER when things were blowing up aka they didnt lie to protect her scam for her such as jacksepticeye who DID check on her but didint try and defend her scame
@jspurg
2 жыл бұрын
I mean that's what blue blocking glasses do. Working in the optical world, blue light from there computer isn't actually damaging your eyes like you think
@dacarly1330
2 жыл бұрын
They help me with eye strain at least lol
@wilmagregg3131
2 жыл бұрын
@@dacarly1330 yeah but the strain isnt from your actually eyes but the muscles around them and in your head that get strained from too much blue light
@marigomez5335
2 жыл бұрын
I liked the marketing approach they took, it seems that they tried to stay with the creators target gamer market. For example, the features of beginners and expert level is cute. However the overuse of “blue light” sunscreen reduces its credibility by a looot. Maybe if they had added studies to support their claims, I’d believe it more but at the moment it’s not credible
@JJouissance
2 жыл бұрын
I had the same exact sentiment until I saw her video addressing this situation in which she talks about how her team of "scientists" essentially refuse to publicize their research indicating the supposed danger of blue light exposure because it was, and I quote, "unpublishable" and "other companies could steal their research/data..." Nail in the coffin, final chisel in the crypt-I'm now extremely sure the whole premise is bullshit and scammy. I don't think it was intentional from Valkyrae's end, but I do believe her business partners sold her a Disney fairytale with the intention of misleading her audience and consumers... However, her being the face of this brand makes it virtually impossible to minimize her and her camp's role in this. Big yikes all around.
@glorifiedpaper4011
2 жыл бұрын
@@JJouissance nice
@YourMasta
2 жыл бұрын
@@JJouissance I wish people felt this way about all the scam products influencers push. There are so many, just look at the common ones pushed on KZitem. The entire influencer market is just a tax to stupid people for companies. Valkyrae is just a scapegoat here, she has zero power. People should actually go after rflct or ulta. If those companies felt the backlash, you’d actually see a decline in misleading products.
@anshi5098
2 жыл бұрын
@@JJouissance ah you summarised the whole thing very well
@arrow2770
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if someone has said this yet but usually if Shea Butter is used it's usually as a base, which means that if her product did actually contain any it would likely be near the start of the list of ingredients. Also, iirc glycerin is a humectant and not the best thing to find in skincare that's supposed to provide hydration. This is only coming from my experience with skincare, I am by no means an expert so I could be wrong.
@jeffsanta8478
2 жыл бұрын
A humectamt is something that holds on to moisture and repairs the moisture barrier her ingredients aren't terrible it's the nonsense claims that made it terrible it Also Has ties to avon which is a massive mlm it just feels so scammy
@Ronswanson940
2 жыл бұрын
Damn, how did she think this was going to work lmfao
@SICresinwrks
2 жыл бұрын
Because she is surrounded by yes men that make her think she is special
@justins5756
2 жыл бұрын
@@SICresinwrks I bet it’s all made by a third party and she’s just advertising basically and they just put it in a new bottle
@SICresinwrks
2 жыл бұрын
@@justins5756 oh im sure its made by a 3rd company, 80% of stuff is. I worked at the chocolate factory and on the chocolate chip line it will just be different bags with brands kroger, walmart etc.. depending on who your filling an order for. She was a dumbass and put her name on something she obviously didn't do research on
@HeadHunter697
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly in skincare you shouldn’t have multiple products that do that exact same thing, usually you have different ingredients for different concerns. For example most toners have redness or uneven skin tone ingredients, and there are some good ingredients in it but the whole angle of blue light is scammy.
@elizabethcaatro6080
2 жыл бұрын
there is also a video where she responds to all of the reflect drama but in the middle of it she starts calling out people because they dint support her or check on her like jacksepticeye and others, which in my opinion she is still being naive thinking that she is rigth and her friends are doing the same thing by supporting her and promoting the skincare while in reality they are promoting a scam as well.
@CultishLamb
2 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly link this video
@morganbishop7146
2 жыл бұрын
what video is this?
@elizabethcaatro6080
2 жыл бұрын
@@morganbishop7146 the link i put is the video of where she adressed the whole feflect drama but at the same time calling people out.
@veronicae2291
2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a 30min VOD from a stream where she addressed it all. She was the Creative Creator, but had asked if there was a shorter title, to which they decided to put her down as cofounder, according to her. Basically what happened (again, according to Rae) is that a company reached out to her agent two years ago and had a meeting with here where they let her test some of their products. They then asked if there was anything she would be interested into creating, to which she responded with blue light and if it has a damaging effect. The company said sure and did some research for six months before getting back to her and showing her their findings. Rae says she was under the impression the research would be public on the rflct website, which evidently it was not. But other than pitching the idea, she just decided on packaging, product finishes (mate, non scented, packaging colours).
@thickbellamel
2 жыл бұрын
Blue light on your phone only affects your eyes lol Why would she even make this 🤣 guess she dont know about the blue light filter lolol
@SICresinwrks
2 жыл бұрын
Its not even that bad for eyes
@ma_de_sa5848
2 жыл бұрын
Plus most phones have a blue light filter. Maybe not older models but most newer phones should have a blue light filter in settings. It makes your phone have a beige hue rather than white.
@thickbellamel
2 жыл бұрын
@@ma_de_sa5848 yeah thats why I said she must not know about the blue light filter lol
@thickbellamel
2 жыл бұрын
@@SICresinwrks yeah but the point is the blue light on your phone only effects your eyes so shes stupid for making skincare products for the phones blue light especially since theres a filter to turn it off lol
@Plutoquintana
2 жыл бұрын
"she made enough money to not have to scam people" That haven't stopped "influencers" from scamming people before, it's called greed.
@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the scientists’ analyses [edit: “there’s no such thing as that”]. Why do people with zero skin care or chemistry background keep releasing chemistry-based product lines?? There are multinational corporations with high-end scientists who do this for a living. I don’t think someone sitting on their bedroom floor in front of a ring light is a credible source of biochemical information.
@Liekmudkipz
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not into streamers like her but I will say I feel really bad for the poor girl. She really seemed to have the best intentions and was misled.
@cindy2106
2 жыл бұрын
yeah ikr, just like atozy said she probably surrounded by bunch of yes man that boosted her ego... another sad scenario of gullible popular hs girl
@hisen3.146
2 жыл бұрын
@@cindy2106 Ah, yes. The 29 year old high school girl... A common trait of high school girls is that they are legal adults for 8-11 years, depending on your location.
@vladimirpetrov7530
2 жыл бұрын
@@hisen3.146 Get a fu... life, mate, she is better than you for sure.
@hisen3.146
2 жыл бұрын
@@vladimirpetrov7530 I will agree, she's better at throwing her "friends" under the bus than I am. And better at falling for scams with no research than me too. And better at getting her fans to trust some shady shit that she never looked into. Truly the best human.
@vladimirpetrov7530
2 жыл бұрын
@@hisen3.146 Sure, pal, you are "amazing". Who are you again? Oh, yes, nobody, anonymous on the internet. Go in front of a camera for the whole world to see, then you can speak, tough guy.
@referiee12
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I don't know why before the launch she didn't ask her friends about the product they clearly are smarter and would have told her it wouldn't have worked. Like she couldn't go to Toast secretly and be like "hey I don't know much about science and you're smart you'll probably know, does this sound like it could work?" And he probably would've been like no. I think Rae feels obligated to be an independent streamer and has to handle everything on her own bc she's pretty big but she should just reach out to her friends and ask them. And i really hope her getting angry at her friends giving honest reviews and speaking badly about them is false bc thats just messed up.
@monodrox
2 жыл бұрын
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. Thank you
@nox5633
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not her friends responsibility
@mikarinnn
2 жыл бұрын
she has the money, she could have paid for a dermatologist to do a research
@rosemary5005
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a doctor but I do know a little more than the average person about this topic since I am borderline nerdy when it comes to skincare. And if you’re afraid of the very small amount of blue light that comes from your laptop or smartphone there is already a product for you and it’s called *sunscreen* 😌
@katel4346
2 жыл бұрын
Skincare snob here - look into trisha's skincare line. Theres so much sketchy drama there. Its worth a deep dive - wierd unsanitary conditions with dogs, skin rashes, expired products...
@QUEERVEEART
2 жыл бұрын
while i agree with you it might have been easy for her to be swept up and persuaded into doing this. but i feel she still has a responsibility to do research or talk to people she has trusted for a long time about it. i definitely dont think she should be hated for this but, she does bear some responsibility because it is basically false advertisement which is, well, wrong.
@MrPanduhhh
2 жыл бұрын
Viewing the products and watching them spin looks like I’m viewing my Resident Evil inventory.
@candraleann
2 жыл бұрын
The only issue you get from your blue light on your phone is headaches and eye strain. Honestly I thought everyone knew that but I agree with you. I don't think she is scamming. I believe she truly thinks she is doing something great. I feel bad that she was minuplated into believing this would help everyone and make a huge difference
@jorilysmatos69
2 жыл бұрын
She did say she started this project 2 years ago. She was probably miss informed in the first place. Since she's always been concerned about the screens blue light.
@candraleann
2 жыл бұрын
@@jorilysmatos69 agreed
@dixienormus769
2 жыл бұрын
@@candraleann She still threw her friends under the bus. Even if she was tricked somehow, publicly shaming her friends for not defending her every move is incredibly gross.
@candraleann
2 жыл бұрын
@@dixienormus769 oh really?! Oh my goodness that's is despicable. I hate people like that. Damn
@wilmagregg3131
2 жыл бұрын
see i would belive that then i saw her "nonpolgy" where she excepted zero responbility blamed everyone else and her mental issues then half way through started trashing and sending hate to her own friends for not defending her blatant scam yeah shes not nice shes just another fake shallow person like gabhanna and tana monague
@Indierawrr
2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to upload this, best way to stay in the loop!
@Hubti
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a gimmick not a scam, I think she would’ve done just fine if she just made a gamer aesthetic skin care line without the bs “science “.
@oogbooga1924
2 жыл бұрын
meanwhile adin ross actually scams his fans with crypto pump and dumps and it isnt blowing up like this where at least its a attempt to provide value
@purgatorypoptart
2 жыл бұрын
What matters is if she learns this lesson in this mistake and doesn't make it a habit.
@mojoe9600
2 жыл бұрын
Val was trying to do what she think was gonna help her help. I don't think we should blame her fully
@Burning_the_toast
2 жыл бұрын
should we not blame her for throwing her friends all under a bus too?
@StachMan
2 жыл бұрын
there is something scary about her video and website... its some like Blade Runner cyber punk like a weird peak into the future if everyone agreed with it. Im glad everyone pushed it away.
@minajones8341
2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see Dr. Dray in a clip on this channel!!
@berke2336
2 жыл бұрын
the best part is Pokimane surprise launching her management company to "help clients avoid bad brand deals on KZitem and Twitch" literally 24 hours after the launch. Her friends even mentioned on stream multiple times that the launch was last minute. That's just ruthless
@wilmagregg3131
2 жыл бұрын
considering how valyrae turned on her own friends and sent hate to them cause she was salty they didint defend her scam i can see why pokiman saw dollars signs and moved so quick
@lenakatana9005
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t really call it a scam, it’s just a seriously stupid marketing gimmick and if she came forward and said that she wanted to start a skincare company that can somehow relate to what her passion and career is with gaming/streaming that would at least be a bit more understandable than creating this problem nobody can say exists. If the skincare line wasn’t enough to hurt her career and credibility, the way she called out other streamers is going to.
@dondon5011
2 жыл бұрын
But it kinda is a scam. Blue light does not damage your skin, it isn't the same as UV protection. It just causes eye strain and severe headaches. As for "blue light pollution" its not a thing, and google searching that could've told her that. There is "light pollution" but that is in respects to too many lights from cities making it hard for us to view the night sky with telescopes and other optics like cameras.
@gamma00crucis
2 жыл бұрын
The company she hired was mlm, which is literally a scam so
@sheridan7475
2 жыл бұрын
There is damage to the eye caused by blue light from screens, though you aren't putting the cream in your eyes.
@SICresinwrks
2 жыл бұрын
It doesnt do enough damage to eyes to even say so
@danielshore1457
2 жыл бұрын
@@SICresinwrks yeah my eyes are fine, the only problem I have had with it is I might get some headaches and eye strain but the headaches are caused by like other stuff as well
@sheridan7475
2 жыл бұрын
@@SICresinwrks it may or may not ever be noticeable. Some people are highly sensitive.
@dondon5011
2 жыл бұрын
@@sheridan7475 That sensitivity though can be affected by many other things as well. Like fluorescent lighting inducing headaches/migraines. Noticeable damage is wearing unfiltered glasses, in broad daylight, which slowly burns the retina. That is noticeable.
@geodyine6795
2 жыл бұрын
Hanna should give us all skin care lessons XD
@rabbi4skin666
2 жыл бұрын
Blue light from the sun? You mean UV rays? Also why by a 30 dollar jar of lotion when you could turn on the night light filter on your operating system or install f.lux
@Beetlejuicer
2 жыл бұрын
She really thought she was on to something LMAO
@Bffrrnmimi
2 жыл бұрын
Why are everyone and their mom taking out beauty products
@auraw2262
2 жыл бұрын
Because the beauty industry has blown up in recent years and like anything in health and fashion plays on people's insecurities
@Bffrrnmimi
2 жыл бұрын
I meant it as a statement not a question lmao. But I completely agree. There's too much saturation of products in the market right now.
@BoobooAndre
Жыл бұрын
Not the 5 in 1 body wash 😂 I feel attacked by that line lol
@VibeWithLuna
2 жыл бұрын
"it could be better, it just has to be completely different." That was me listening to the first mix & master of my first song & deciding to redo it before putting it up on my music channel.
@noneofyourbuisness4724
2 жыл бұрын
She messed up she didn't know that the studies that they did for 2 years were not able to disclose in the website and was shocked and would just wish to back away from the contract if she could she is not the co-founder she is a creative collaborater so she really doesn't have that much authority to take actions about what she can put in the website and now she is in a contract and can't back away
@NaudVanDalen
2 жыл бұрын
"It would be really stupid of her to just potentially ruin her entire career off of trying to get a quick bag by scamming her fans. Logically it just doesn't make sense." -Faze- Kay, Ricegum, Adin Ross and others: "First time?"
@carlyliczyk
2 жыл бұрын
Glycolic and salicylic acid at less than 1 percent are used as stabilizers, they're not active ingredients. So it's kind of irrelevant to mention them.
@violet5610
2 жыл бұрын
I've been a licensed cosmetologist for over ten years. That isn't how blue light from your screen works. She just put sunscreen on her products and said they would block blue rays.
@a_doggo
Жыл бұрын
Indoor sunscreen is kinda sus. It's literally UV protection called "blue light protection" to differentiate.
@PRODBYLIIVID
2 жыл бұрын
I love how this video is perfectly 10 mins long
@chandrasekharlimit4547
2 жыл бұрын
Let me clear up some gaps in why the claims made by the product is wrong through science. (I want to add, I have a BS in Astronomy and Astrophysics and am working on my Masters Degree now) First we need to have a basic understanding of “light” and it’s properties pertaining to “color”. Light, heat, they are all electromagnetic waves. Energy released from an excited molecule in the form of a photon. An electromagnetic wave that appears “blue” to us is in the visible light spectrum that’s about 4-700nm , blue light is on the left most end of this spectrum at 4-500nm, waves lengths shorter than this are called Ultraviolet Light. There are more properties on a quantum mechanical level that makes these forms of electromagnetic radiation harbingers of cancer, but it will suffice to say that these forms of radiation is more dangerous due to the internal energy. We consider “blue light” as bad because UV in Astronomy is called the bluer end of the spectrum because of the way light shifts, hence red shifts and blue shifts, but realistically color isn’t always indicative of intensity nor is it indicative of danger because gamma rays and ultraviolet rays we cannot see, but we say they’re “blue”. This weird way of relating color to power and intensity of electromagnetic radiation is where a lot of misinterpretation is had. Blue light doesn’t = bad, although comparative warmer light, redder light is safer on the eyes because of longer wavelength, that does NOT mean it is safer in terms of causing cancer. Your computer screen does not cause cancer and does not emit enough intensity for it too even be compared to the sun
@GRAPHICREYNA
2 жыл бұрын
That 5 in 1 joke got me good🤣🤣
@DarkPniEntanglrDarkPniEntanglr
2 жыл бұрын
Lamas with caps for hats with bats riding cats
@orange3567
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using sun tan for a screen😂😂
@turboshazed7370
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Someone had to make an imagine comment.
@michaelmcdowell7096
2 жыл бұрын
Something that reflects blue rays is blue, that’s how lights work.
@nicolem9026
2 жыл бұрын
Moonburn from that kid from Hannah Montana 😆
@samanthajester3312
2 жыл бұрын
Even if blue light does something, we should be more concerned about the sun and just use sunscreen like...
@jessess6810
2 жыл бұрын
There’s no need to protect yourself from screen blue light 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 A Dermatologist on KZitem pulled it apart
@Ttlore
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely despise the fact that her and I are from the same town.
@melissaleget
2 жыл бұрын
Not the website having their own brand name spelled wrong.
@x7themm
2 жыл бұрын
put the lotion in my eyes, don’t see any blue light anymore
@Evil_blastYT
2 жыл бұрын
Atozy literally makes me day
@mrfishsticks6787
2 жыл бұрын
All blue light does is keep your brain awake at night lol
@justtommyc9381
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember Blue Blockers?? Those amazing 90's sunglssses that blocked all UV light!! (BS)
@ceravix7132
2 жыл бұрын
Per Web MD: Exposing Effects of Blue Light On Skin Medically Reviewed by Whitney Seltman, OD on October 05, 2020 “The next time you snap a selfie, zoom in for a closer look. Your smartphone -- along with tablets, laptops, and TV screens -- gives off blue light, and the exposure could be changing your skin. Here’s what you need to know.” I can see where she got confused… 🤷♀️
@PutinTrump1234
2 жыл бұрын
I have seen other people/companies selling stuff like this. Actually it's kind of like the big scam of organic food, there is no such thing.
@honeybie170
2 жыл бұрын
After I saw her launch this product and heard about the criticisms, I decided to do some research myself. I spent an hour or so digging through credible academic journals and peer-reviewed studies to see if I could find anything on blue-light damage from screens. While I found plenty of studies that looked into blue-light from the sun and how it damages the skin (no surprise), I found nothing on blue-light from screens. Basically, what the doctor you showed was talking about. I don't think she intentionally tried scamming people, but I do think someone scammed her in a way. I think someone may have pitched this idea to her, misconstrued the data be have on blue-light damage to skin, and told her the market for this product would be huge. And she agreed to it. I've heard her claim that the team behind the product showed her the studies, and the studies are real, but if they were, they'd be peer-reviewed and published in a journal somewhere. If it was a study the medical community accepted. The fact that these studies AREN'T (to my knowledge) public/published means they haven't been peer-reviewed, or have been peer-reviewed and had something wrong with their methodology, data, or conclusions. In other words, whatever research she's talking about is NOT accepted by the scientific (specifically biomedical/biological) community.
@jayendrakurukulasekara6610
2 жыл бұрын
The people defending her by saying that she didnt mean to scam are missing the point. So many viewers are impressionable and would blindly trust her, it's a slippery slope where in the future streamers may promote products that arent just scams but harmful as well, and the people who defend people like her will be ultimately responsible for trying to divert the blame. And moreover, who would be stupid enough to work on this for 2 years and not realize this? Its prolly a marketing gimmick to try generate hype. Who says cofounder jn the bio when they arent? She is not as innocent as she seems
@bbymoons6195
2 жыл бұрын
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@hisen3.146
2 жыл бұрын
"So many viewers are impressionable and would blindly trust her," I don't think is the point either because it's on the viewers for blindly trusting her. The REAL issue is her lack of research and jumping into a situation too quickly.
@jayendrakurukulasekara6610
2 жыл бұрын
@@hisen3.146 he has a relatively young audience. Who look towards influencer skin care products because they tend to be cheaper. Many 13-16 year olds wouldnt think to do their own research because they would feel that the research was done when the company was founded and a influencer had gone out of her way to promote it. A bit like Fyre festival when kendall jenner and the Baldwin's promoted it, no one thought that it would be a scam cos they automatically assume that these types of companies want to go under the radar instead of putting themselves out there with exposure from well known people
@hisen3.146
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayendrakurukulasekara6610 The 13-16 year olds aren't responsible for buying the product, the parents are. Parents should know to research this stuff and be able to tell their kids that it's a blatant lie.
@jayendrakurukulasekara6610
2 жыл бұрын
@@hisen3.146 yeah, but Valkyrae is one who is ultimately responsible. She is the one who promoted the scam product. Maybe she should have her parents make decisions for her from now on? Once you reach grade 12 and college (I dont know for a fact that if she has gone to one or not), but you're always told that the evidence you use in essays and whatnot must be from "peer reviewed" sources, not just random studies done by the company making the product. Any 20 year old should know that their is an obvious bias.
@uno9791
2 жыл бұрын
yo somehow you pop up in my feed and boom! i really like your content 👍
@willoftruth4331
2 жыл бұрын
Gg valk caught smoke
@Megha486
2 жыл бұрын
She could've made blue light protection glasses or some
@rossichii
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like... Rae got scammed... She probably was talked into it and maybe didn't do proper research.
@Imsleepeebruh
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Blue light. Because my skin gets so tanned after days of not venturing outside
@declineinelo
2 жыл бұрын
Watching atozy on sick days love the videos
@atozy
2 жыл бұрын
new video coming in a few minutes :)
@mrbawls8736
2 жыл бұрын
this is why knowledge is important in our lives
@Skyewastaken2
2 жыл бұрын
She made a mistake, she signed a contact without knowing about all the details, but the death threats and hate she’s getting from this is insane, no one deserves this much hate for this.
@dixienormus769
2 жыл бұрын
Not an excuse, because she still proceeded to throw all of her friends under the bus and publicly shame them. It was a nasty move and it deserves to be called out.
@cleuziclei
2 жыл бұрын
@@dixienormus769 call out? sure, but not death threats
@hisen3.146
2 жыл бұрын
@@cleuziclei It's the internet. There will always be edgy "kys" kids. She should learn to just ignore them and not use it as a sympathy point. Every big streamer/youtuber gets them and most don't complain.
@PlebianGorilla
2 жыл бұрын
If she sells anything that protects her fans from blue light, it should be glasses
@Monkeezy
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't really care about this. Reason being, how many other products sale you snake oil? Placebo? Or whatever saying to tell you a lot of products claim to do _______ (fill in the blank) just to not really help. Yes there are products out there that does help and does what they state, but if feels like those products are the 1% of products. So the Valkyrae thing, might as well slap the "As seen on TV" label on it because we all know majority of the time those are junk!
@LongHairCarolyn
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting hook for the skincare line. If that were true it would be very clever and a good fit for her brand.
@Shimeih
2 жыл бұрын
She got scammed by the company, didn’t do her research and now gets to scam her fans
@naturallyliyah7208
2 жыл бұрын
Jeez I wish she would have did more research before putting her face on it
@GetLogical.
2 жыл бұрын
she looks like jimmy neutron
@vkajp
2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dray on Atozy YASSSSS!!!
@Itspacifics
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I love @dr dray she drops some real gems about Skin care...
@trinitytaylor3662
2 жыл бұрын
I think that maybe it would have been better if she made like bottles for skincare. Like how she plays as red in among us ?
@NaudVanDalen
2 жыл бұрын
Women's skin care: a bunch of expensive products. Men's skin care: 20 in 1 body wash for $2 that also cleans your floor.
@jenniferbond7073
2 жыл бұрын
And usually guys skin looks fine. Meaning expensive skincare not needed! I used to by expensive shit now I’m all about what I can get at Target.
@Leah.Something
2 жыл бұрын
..........uh huh. Maybe she heard "blue light makes your widdle eyeballs hurt" and thought "SKINCARE LINE!"
@Bigbean2999
2 жыл бұрын
It's like soap but soap for your screen
@okami-chan9772
2 жыл бұрын
Funny how there's so many mixed results on the whole "blue light will affect your eyes and skin" problem. Like, ffs, was she born and grew up in life that she didn't know that sunscreen exist?
@p.a4459
2 жыл бұрын
Dude Vichi sells products under the same slogan (im using the dam product and is shit), but is only news when an influencer does it. Probably she also bought suncream under the slogan that is good even for blue screen light
@LawrenceW78
2 жыл бұрын
I think what happened was some company wanted to sell a skin care product to a bunch of tweens and kids and figured what the hell lets find someone really popular with them, and pay them a bunch of money to slap their name on it. So they found Valkyrae, sold her some bullshit story about blue light in monitors and cut her a deal. She didn't set out to scam anyone and the company was trying to make some quick cash
@taydream
2 жыл бұрын
This is what I've gauged about Rae from watching her so far. She's a very trusting person, she trusts her team in connecting her with good people, and trusts the people she works with not to do her wrong. She also is too nice and doesn't really think too highly of herself. She talks a lot about how she doesn't think she's smart or knowledgeable. Meaning even if she were to do her own research I don't think she would trust herself to be able to understand everything compared to a pro. So of course she would trust a pro. As would many others who are venturing into a new field. Which does, unfortunately, make her naive, plus Rae is the type that always wants to find ways to help people. Like sure a quick google search could be helpful, but why would you when you have direct contact with professionals? It's no different from other celebrities or creators who venture into something new.
@radicallybean
2 жыл бұрын
The comment section here shows how super thoughtful people are when making their own opinions while also agreeing that it was a scam. I’ve found my people.
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