Sorry Canadian friends amazon.ca has horrible pricing for these so you are better off ordering them from .com or seeing if your local stores can get them. If you want to pick up one of each you can grab em using these amazon links (As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases) *EARTH TEXTURE* amzn.to/2FFKXtn *GROUND TEXTURE* amzn.to/2FIfoiA
@hankhillz
5 жыл бұрын
Amazon.ca kind of sucks. A lot of the items that can be found on .com are more cost effective to buy. Even when factoring in shipping
@SheetaPally
5 жыл бұрын
With my Prime at least the cost is fine on .ca I actually just ordered the transparent water the other day.
@ReflexologyFTW
5 жыл бұрын
@@@hankhillz I have to agree. I had a friend in the states pick me up a DVD set that I wanted a couple of years ago because it was only 39 dollars down there compared to the $142.99 (I kid you not) that amazon.ca wanted for it. I was done with amazon.ca from that moment forward. :)
@ChristianSupiot
4 жыл бұрын
The way you are pronouncing Vallejo here is cracking me up. LL is more like a Y sound. VaYejo :) Not trying to make fun of you either. Its cute. Im a spanish teacher, so this is fun to revisit.
@Plasmathedeathjester
3 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to use this in your house
@thebrewgeek
5 жыл бұрын
I use these a lot for basing my miniatures. They build up very nicely if you allow them to dry fully between layers. Plus a neat trick is to add rocks/cork/skulls/weapons/ballast to your base on top of a layer of these pastes. No need to add glue. By smashing the objects into the paste, you can get a natural look of an object being partially buried in the sand or dirt. I often just sprinkle ballast onto the wet paste in patches to give a less uniform texture to a base. Great product for minis basing.
@ehgrandmachin08
5 жыл бұрын
I do the same for my bases. The use of snow texture is just great, you could also use it for sea foam (I used it on Descent elementals to joint water and fire and thus foam, it worked really great)
@savagex466-qt1io
7 ай бұрын
Hey bud when you say sprinkle "ballast" what is that stuff ? Is it like a small sand for model railroads ? Iv heard it before only 2 times id love to know ! Thanks for sharing !
@thebrewgeek
7 ай бұрын
@@savagex466-qt1io ballast is just a blend of sand and small stones. It's not particularly uniform which makes it look more realistic. You can get a similar effect out of clay cat litter that was been ground up. It gives a range of particle sizes from powder to larger chunks. At 28-30mmscale, it's like sand and medium sized rocks. You can sprinkle it onto the texture paste, but be sure to seal the cat litter afterwards with some thinned PVA glue (or modpodge) or primer/sealer.
@bradw.5991
Жыл бұрын
I wanted to say Thank-you for the review. I am an HVAC service tech and have been looking for a product like this for over 20 years since Aprilaire stopped selling their version of this type of paint for their Humidifier trays. After a while, the paint in the tray where the water flows through the tray and into the Humidifier Pad wears away and the water then does not flow properly on smooth plastic. This product (Rough Grey Pumice) has the perfect amount of sand mix to allow the water to adhere to the sand to make it travel along the water trays to each water opening. This saves water by utilizing the whole Humidifier Pad and providing better humidification into the home. I estimate that I can paint approximately 10 humidifier trays with one 7 oz container.
@derekroe8856
5 жыл бұрын
That side-by-side comparison grid was very helpful! I wish more reviewers would do things like that.
@bentosan
5 жыл бұрын
I own the rough white pumice and the dark earth. They are great and super cheap for how much you get and between mixing the two at different ratios do very good rock and ground textures. I use them ALOT, build your rocks with cork then slap a mix over the top and in the gaps for some seriously nice texture. I bought these on the recommendation from Vince Venturella and his incredibly useful hobby cheating video playlist on miniature painting in KZitem.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you can get a lot more out of one pot than I initially thought since you can apply so thin.
@bentosan
5 жыл бұрын
Black Magic Craft totally, if you use cork as a base it will go a long way. It also has very interesting texturing properties if you apply it thick over the cork and let it naturally dry over the course a few hours which is good for bases. If your doing diaroma then just applying it thin will still look good and be cost efficient. The only real reason to buy the GW basing pastes would be to buy the crackling ones only and using these for everything else.
@JonathanKennedyII
4 жыл бұрын
@@bentosan you can mix these with crackle medium with "okay" results, just got to apply it as thin as possible.
@connorsutton8745
5 жыл бұрын
I own the rough grey pumice, the medium that holds together the grit is transparent so you can add paint to make it any color you want.
@Based_Lord_Humongous
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I used a light blue on my bases, then mixed my purest white into the mix before spreading it on the base. It gave me a super hard texture like normal and a sick blueish look....almost like snow over ice!
@thebrewgeek
5 жыл бұрын
I will definitely try this.
@connorsutton8745
5 жыл бұрын
It's great stuff. I also use the dark mud (which I love) for a large Stormcast Army, and adding paint to the grey pumice mix makes it virtually indistinguishable in use to the pre colored one. Would definitely recommend picking up one of the specific ground types if you're going to be doing a lot of models in the same basing scheme, but for flexibly the uncolored pumice is absolutely astounding.
@Milner62
5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the grey pumice? Could it be used to simulate crushed shell in say 1/24 or 1/25 scale? Im looking at Vallejo`s line up and I am going for just two as I already have 3 of the ocean effects on my wish list for diorama`s I have planned.
@RupertFoulmouth
5 жыл бұрын
If you need help dealing with the feeling of being bbn overwhelmed by all the free stuff, i am happy to take it off your hands. I enjoyed the video, as always.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I know, it’s a rough life for me 😂
@RhonnOfAlderon
5 жыл бұрын
As usual, great advice. I used to paint miniatures for D&D when I was younger (prob 25 years ago) and I’m relaunching the hobby. Your Channel has been great and a huge help. Thanks for all your efforts. Blackheart from Detroit
@Zachfive
3 жыл бұрын
Would have liked a closer examination of how each color/texture differs from each other, but definitely answered a lot of questions about the performance of the pastes!
@forgefather
5 жыл бұрын
I use earth for my wire trees i make, a few coats and it's good to go, in some cases i don't even have to paint the tree, you can score the texture to get good texture like a tree when it's almost dry, i love this stuff.
@TalismancerM
Жыл бұрын
I had an old pot around of Earth Brown and covered a 3' x 3' board of hex tiles and it used about 3/4 of the jar. It goes a fair way!
@SpottedSharks
5 жыл бұрын
Since they are acryllic based, you can use water to dilute the paste to make it more maleable. You can also mix acryllic paints with the paste to acheive the exact color you want. Vallejo also has a snow-effect and mud-effect paste that are awesome. ETA: clay molding tools (at quick glance they look like dental torture tools) are useful for applying this stuff.
@EricHonaker
3 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of acrylic in the morning! Smells like... creativity.
@JonathanKennedyII
4 жыл бұрын
I have had several of these for years, have always highly recommended them. Use them for basing mostly, but have also tried applying them to the recesses at the base of buildings as well as mud and thick dirt on boots and tank tracks.
@nekoali2
3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, this video is about 3 years old, and I'm only now learning that the product exists. And I only found them because I was trying go find some color match to GW's Ironearth texture paints. I definitely plan to pick some up soon, and I appreciate you laying them all out side by side to see how much texture or grit there is in each, and a review of how durable they are. GW's texture paints are so expensive for what you get, so I had been using sand and glue, but you have to deal with applying the basing and then applying a sealant layer or it flakes so easily. It's good to know this is apply and paint.
@jameslarkin276
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing these products to our attention. I think the terrain tutor has a caulk+grit+paint or "filler"+grit+paint recipe that may work similarly if you have not seen already.
@brunneng38
4 жыл бұрын
I liked the recreation of your being overwhelmed opening the box. 😂
@PerfectionHunter
4 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are the Gold Veins of KZitem
@steve101968
5 жыл бұрын
I got the dark earth and it did all my minis for a bout 3 years. Then it dried up. Great value
@maximilianoz.5777
5 жыл бұрын
I have two tips that I discovered while using these (i have brown earth and snow). First, for building a sort of "big" diorama base (like 20x30cm) getting a proper ground texture could mean using a lot of material. For instance, the small "waves" of dirt, lumps, and so on. For those I use a common napkin with a mix of white glue + wate, i make the small and sharp roughness, and after everyting is dry, I put a light coat of the Vallejo. It saves a lot of the product and you get an awesome texture. The Second tip is, you can use pigments after it's dry. I don't know if it is because of the porosity or the final texture of the paint, but trust me, those pigments ARE NOT GOING TO COME OFF. I made a boo boo once, and not even with my rough handling it could come off... in the end I gave up and put a thicker cover of pigment on top and I managed to hide most of the wrong color.
@HighEyeWorkshop
5 жыл бұрын
Going to be using the European Thick Mud in my next diorama project.
@kevingibbons3210
3 жыл бұрын
it looks like baby poop when dry..... :)
@CraftsAndMinis
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! The black lava is my favorite for use on my bases. Really like the grittiness and bond. PVA glue and sand can peel over time and this is a good alternative.
@ceciliatideborg7426
3 жыл бұрын
Started using some of these recently and love them a lot! You get a lot for a great price, and they do the job wonderfully!
@cibetka76
3 жыл бұрын
I use these for years to base plastic minis, putting these on regular plastic chips that i buy in bulks from ebay. Was really surprised no one talks about them much, and people still make bases old way with sand and such. This is much easier.
@SumDood2003
5 жыл бұрын
I have the brown earth texture paint. I cover it using (your recipe) black wash for large pieces and Citadel Nuln Oil for smaller pieces. It makes a really great dark mud texture. It can also be put on pretty thick as a filler with equally great results!
@Hazardman51
5 жыл бұрын
I use the mud and dust textures from Vallejo and love them from basing and adding detail to tiles and terrain.
@rickcannon9535
Жыл бұрын
I use the Ground Texture product for model railroading. This stuff works well and while it is still wet you can add additional ballast to change the color and tone of earth scenes.
@sandmanhh67
5 жыл бұрын
I used the fine pumice one to "paint" plastic wedding cake riser Greek columns. While they are dirt cheap and make great terrain, the greek style columns are just too smooth looking if you just paint them "stone". Chuck a thin coat of the fine pumice on and some wash.....bingo! Stone columns.
@kornklone
2 жыл бұрын
You're a legend. I've been wanting to try em but knew nothing about em
@ShaunJS
4 жыл бұрын
Somehow read the title as "taste test and review"...
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t a Miniac video!
@ShaunJS
4 жыл бұрын
ayyyy!
@marykfcjane
3 жыл бұрын
Woah, edible texture paste for making edible dioramas. Only in your dreams can you eat a desert and have it taste like dessert. I hope someone does this...
@RichterScaleStudios
5 жыл бұрын
I own a few Vallejo textures and they are solid product like the rest of their lines. Being ready to go, I use it on miniature and vehicle basing. I am a wargame terrain maker and use an eye balled goop recipe for larger terrain pieces and 3'x3' to 8'x4' game boards. It is a mixture of acrylic caulking, PVA, plaster and water. I add paint and textures ( Anything from Santa Cruz beach sand that I have a big tub of to store bought railroad ballast) as the project calls for. It is a really durable surface.
@skywatcher7
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using them for mini bases for awhile. Totally agree! Easy to work with and super strong.
@Agamemnon2
5 жыл бұрын
They're great for basing, with the slight caveat that I've had problems using up a jar before it goes off, but that says more about my patchy schedule than the product.
@randyftz
5 жыл бұрын
Okay, I laughed out loud at the cut-shot acrylic sniff!!
@randyftz
5 жыл бұрын
2:17
@ishnifusmeadle
5 жыл бұрын
I hate cutting open a new tube of caulk and being slammed with the overwhelmingly potent vinegary smell. Even though I put vinegar on everything. Course I believe that's silicone not latex (acrylic) caulk that stinks. Acrylic really isn't bad.
@Beezzzzy_
4 жыл бұрын
I picked up the Black Lava so I can paint it whatever color I want. I like the texture it gives a lot. This is gonna be my go to basing material.
@Feserov
5 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to your Water effects review. Personally, it's the most unique Vallejo stuff
@tpbbuzzelli1327
5 жыл бұрын
I Love using the water effects,
@Ignitius13
3 жыл бұрын
I used the Thick Mud as a base for a graveyard for my necromancer mini. It worked really well!
@redmist1122
5 жыл бұрын
What an awesome review! I appreciate the cost effective note...really helps for us terrain builders. I've always had a great experience with Vallejo products, but haven't used the textured paste yet. May have to go out today and get a pot. Thanks again.
@Sierra0331
2 жыл бұрын
Love these for bases, and to add details to buildings and tank treads.
@Excalibre3133
3 жыл бұрын
I would suggest trying a combination of mod podge and baking soda, perhaps try it and compare it to the finer texture pastes available through Vallejo (it works quite well for fine sand and is easy to paint on). It would be interesting to see how this or other cheap alternatives (such as sand or sawdust) compare. Great video as always, I've been wondering for a while how these actually hold up! edit: yes I know this is an old video, but it would still be very interesting and I thought it worth mentioning, despite how late I was to the party
@Logiwonk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! WIll probably pick some up for basing. FYI the stuff on Tudor Mansion is Daub (clay/dung/straw) not stucco (plaster based) but you were in construction so I imagine you're calling it stucco so the audience knows what you're talking about.
@mellowyello1478
Жыл бұрын
I have an old model od Marvels Rhino that has a texture on the box, but the model is baby smooth. This video helps give me the idea of how to progress with getting a similar result.
@keithmunro4944
5 жыл бұрын
I have a few of them and mostly use the red oxide paste along with cork for mini bases and small dioramas, just to simulate earth. This is then primed and painted along with the rest of whatever I put on the base. Their water effect (not the pastes, which I have yet to try but the liquid) mixed with Woodland Scenic "snow" makes a great snow paste that makes awesome snow. Looking forward to you trying the rest of the stuff in the box!
@banditb86
4 жыл бұрын
I use the dark earth for most all my bases. I will be painting over it but the dark color is a good base I have also used it on the base of my house terrain and it works well too
@PlasticComplex
3 жыл бұрын
They are great, Dark Earth does my Napoleonic and 40K models. It never flakes off or makes a mess.
@TFA_Darklabs
5 жыл бұрын
I love that random paint sniffing there
@DeviousDungeonsPainting
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using these for a while now. I use them for basing on almost every mini I paint.
@asmodeusazarak
2 жыл бұрын
I have the earth texture and I like to use it for bases to give a natural ground look under grass flock. Sometimes I even use it to build some sense of elevation but only if it's mild. I also like using these with Marvel Crisis Protocol which has city street textured plastic bases. It's a great way to turn all or part of that into a natural ground texture instead.
@estebanuno1
18 күн бұрын
I am set to paint a Porphyrion and I was considering using texture paints to it to give an aged battle worn look.
@DrumDudeMatt
5 жыл бұрын
This might be the perfect product for what I have in the works currently. First time making terrain (for my end of campaign in a year-1.5 years away) and I chose to do it out of cardboard because I have an abundance of it and I’m not planning on doing more terrain. Painting the cardboard and the spots that have hot glue have been a concern I’ll have to deal with in the future and this might be perfect to use and then paint over. I’ll have to test and see.
@Nicolas-yd2mw
3 жыл бұрын
hummm i like that smell of acrylic in da mornin' !
@kalorathekau
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video; these may be exactly what I need. Really impressed by how well they stay on!
@mikeelarsen1964
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I just ordered a pot to try out.
@Fox01313
4 ай бұрын
I know for minis i tend to get just the light colored stuff (off white or light gray), then wash/shade it a different color.
@jeru_jj1161
5 жыл бұрын
Gonna buy that asphalt one for my Orks. Thanks for the video. Cheers.
@epicdungeontiles
5 жыл бұрын
I've been tempted by these but wasn't sure if they would be thick/bitty enough for terrain. Thanks for testing! :)
@mk-ultraviolence1760
2 жыл бұрын
I have the white stone and the mud textures. One thing I have been trying to do with the white stone is trying to get a marble floor type texture for my bases.
@iaodfsh
5 жыл бұрын
I mix some paint with fine sand and pva glue. Works really good.
@sirdrakey
5 жыл бұрын
That asphalt is nice! Sci-minis look out! I have used texture medium before from Liquitex. I like them because they are something to add to paint so they don't have pigments there gel is really cool and I have been wanting to use it for water effects. You can find them and Golden at Michael's or other craft stores. Liquitex is a great brand sure a use those $1 applecrafts too but the Liquitex is always stronger pigment even when I thin it for airbrushing and minis in general
@callindrill
5 жыл бұрын
I have wanted someone to do a good tutorial on these. Would love to see you use their weathering/rust paints, or see some of these things being used for texturing in weird ways... Froth in a witches brew, I dunno. Something not dirt, lol.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
As I said......I need to get to know these products before using them. This is the starting point.
@callindrill
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial right on man. Just excited to see you get to know them!
@martinwillumsen2574
2 жыл бұрын
I have the European Mud and Rust Texture for gunk on tanks. I haven't gotten to that part of my painting yet, I have only at this point made some trials and have so far concluded that I don't like the color of the European Mud, but I look forward to messing up a couple of tanks with them and then paint on top of the mud after
@skunksmellington6305
4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed to see! Thanks!
@EMTBonsai
3 жыл бұрын
I used it on the bottom of a tank model the textured mud one and didn't like it so tried to get it off and it peeled but was solid it only came off in strips with a layer of the plastic from the model too! Once it's one and cures that's ot it's on! You get a window to used thinner to clean it up and refine it bit after a night sitting not a chance lol! Great for on basses and dioramas the Asphalt and concrete are great ones for making concrete blocks for road blocks for Iraqi dioramas and the crackle sand one is really nice
@rovat6285
4 жыл бұрын
The weed of Modelers, is Acrylic smell.
@VikingFyre
5 жыл бұрын
Sold, heading to Amazon now
@glitterbrains69
3 жыл бұрын
go to 3:49 to actually see the texture, review could have been a bit more review-ee but hey, it gets more "grounded" near the end :)
@tpbbuzzelli1327
5 жыл бұрын
I use these products all the time .... Love them
@andymckenzie8031
3 жыл бұрын
Thinking about the grout... it might work to use sanded grout mix, since that's a LOT cheaper. I just looked it up, and saw premixed at $28 for 157 square feet, and dry mix at $13 for 552 square feet. So buying it pre-mixed is on the order of 3.5 times the cost, and it'll probably dry out before you're done with the container. So if you want something like this for large pieces, I'd go with the dry stuff, and mix it up as you need it.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
3 жыл бұрын
Dry grout is different. Pre mixed is acrylic based, far more adhesive, and flexible. You can use unmixed dry grout for crafting (unsanded is better) and I’ve done it in a fair bit of videos. But it’s worth knowing that different grouts perform very differently.
@blaked7532
5 жыл бұрын
I mix ink in to the white and grey to change the colours to fit my build themes.
@JamesECarlisle
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously they already have pigment in them, but have you tried painting over any of them? Like maybe using the lighter color like white for the texture but then just painting it whatever color you wanted like a marsh green or a light sandy sort of color?
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Yea I said you can paint over them
@thebrewgeek
5 жыл бұрын
The ones that I have used take primer and paint very well. I usually apply my basing materials before priming, but I have also had success applying paint directly without primer.
@JamesECarlisle
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Must have missed that part. 😁
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Yea these are "meant" to be applied after paint which is why the they are already tinted, and you can mix paint in directly to change that tint but personally I like to apply all textures before paint. So for me having multiple colours is unneeded as I'd be painting after anyway.
@rhelyk7893
5 жыл бұрын
The "grey pumice" is transparent, the pumice particles themselves are grey because pumice is grey and the acrylic medium is white but dries clear just like PVA. You can paint over that with any color you want and it takes washes and drybrushing VERY well. The colored earth tones already have paint added to them, which saves the tedious step of basecoating them after they dry, but you have to be more careful with them while applying it since they will "paint" your models' feet and shins if you aren't careful. The time saved is very worth it though, I use the Brown Earth for nearly all of my basing now and just use lighter or darker washes and drybrushes to get the effect I want
@DPSAX95
5 жыл бұрын
Question: How would you do clean or "marble" tiles? Everyone goes for dirty old stone..Thanks brother
@nikos52
5 жыл бұрын
Ρε Δήμο το μάρμαρο δεν έχει κόκκο και αυτές οι αλοιφές σου δίνουν τέτοια υφή. Νομίζω μόνο με χρώματα μπορεί να γίνει.
@DPSAX95
5 жыл бұрын
@@nikos52 δεν με νοιάζουν οι αλοιφές,ρωτάω γενικά μπας και απαντήσει ο μάστορας εδώ,και ναί με μπογιές σίγουρα,αλλά με τι τεχνικές ,το dry rushing δεν βοηθάει π.χ. και αν το πάτωμα γίνει με φελιζολ θα δίνει πολύ έντονη υφή όπως και να έχει που αυτομάτως δεν θα μοιάζει με μάρμαρο.
@nikos52
5 жыл бұрын
@@DPSAX95 δεν υπάρχει εύκολη λύση. Βάψιμο σε λευκό , ελαφρό wash σε απόχρωση που θες για το μάρμαρο γαλάζιο ή κόκκινο, λεπτές γραμμές για νερά του μάρμαρο, shade και highlights σε κάθε γραμμή και περνά να σου δώσουμε και ένα βραβείο crystal brush ή golden dragon.
@DPSAX95
5 жыл бұрын
@@nikos52 χαχαχαχα thanks
@blaked7532
5 жыл бұрын
GW has a good tutorial on their channel on painting marble effect, next level painting also has a good one too.
@sampriems7520
5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a livestream where you just try to find a way to make the texture paste at home?
@marykayryan7891
5 жыл бұрын
Which of the textures do you think would make the best texture for Tudor style house fill? I am building a Tudor style doll house and it would be great to know which one would be the most realistic waddle and daub/lime wash fill look-texture wise. I can always paint it whatever color I decide. Thanks.
@jazw4649
4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried modeling paste from the art store (Liquitex brand is a popular one) or heavy gel medium and adding your own texture in it like sand? You can add paint to it for tint + colour and collage into it, heavy woven fabric textures like burlap look super cool, also crinolin, lace, cheese cloth and spooky cloth they sell around Halloween at the dollar store make interesting textures.
@moacirsantosdearruda3759
3 жыл бұрын
As a non-native english speaker, he said something that, at first, just sounded to me as "These reminded me a lot of the smell of acrylic cocaine..." lol
@benjamincousino8188
5 жыл бұрын
I might give these a shot. Thanks!
@jasonazevedo
5 жыл бұрын
Great review!!! Thanks for the love.
@savagex466-qt1io
7 ай бұрын
I think on my next army I will use some. Seems to be quicker and very strong is what I want. Useing PVA glue sometimes my sand / gravel base would flap up ! Most dont and I think it was because I never let them dry for 1 day before puting the 2nd layer of slighty waterd glue on top. Im almost certian thats the problem as I have some that are very strong as I love to test this stuff myself before commeting. Il be trying wood glue next not sure what brand probley gorilla, Iv also used gorrlia but for larger stuff it can dry to quick and sucks if you make mistake lol.
@schiltz371
5 жыл бұрын
lol, your absolutely right! that stuff looks like sanded grout, WHICH is much cheaper especially if your buy it in unmixed form like $10 bucks for 25 lbs-cheap (if you needed that much table top game play boards). you can get non sanded to reproduce the earth mud under $20 for 10lbs. im so glad i watched your video on this texture paste from Vallejo, you saved me lots of money!
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
No. This is more like ACRYLIC PREMIXED grout...which is NOT cheap. Using dry grout is great for a lot of things and I have a whole video comparing methods for stucco effects that includes dry grout compared to the Vallejo paste. BUT it’s very very different. This product is NOT similar to dry powdered grout.
@schiltz371
5 жыл бұрын
the only point i was trying to make was the home depot option is a more economical choice with the grout in mind including acrylic version in comparison to Vallejo. of course it depends on size of project too.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure you’ve actually looked at the cost of premixed acrylic grout.
@schiltz371
5 жыл бұрын
Vallejo is selling at $12 per 200ml or 6.67oz. container lowe's has MAPEI Flexcolor (acrylic) grout at $33 for just under 1900ml, or 1/2 gallon container. what seems like a better value to you?
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Well it depends on your location and how much you will use. That Mapei Flexcolor tub where I live only comes in 3.7L tubs for $75. It's also an INSANE amount to buy. I will likely never use up one single small Vallejo container. I'd rather not spend more to have a giant tub that will eventually dry out and get ruined. It doesn't last forever. If you want to use it on a huge board or something a big tub may be worth it. But you have to be using a lot of it, and using it in a short period. For basing minis or small details on buildings, it's a silly investment to buy giant buckets.
@billfranklin254
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, just to comment on your statement about cost effectiveness....at around 88 USD per 3.78L of acrylic grout, that equates to around 42 mL per USD. The pots at around 13 USD per 200 mL equates to around 15 mL per USD...sooooo, it is very cost effective to use the acrylic grout by almost 3x
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
But you have to buy a huge qty to get those savings. That was more my point (that I didn’t elaborate on clearly as I didn’t bother crunching numbers knowing buying an $88 tub of grout really wasn’t a bargain buy for crafter)........and that’s IF it’s similar enough to be used which I haven’t actually tested yet. It just seemed similar.
@billfranklin254
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial it might be a "huge qty", but if you utilize that grout to make a BUNCH of different colors/effects, I think you'd have something cool on your hands...
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Still missing my point. If I need qty that large I would find a way to make it myself for a fraction of the cost. I don’t want to spend close to $100 on a consumable. I’ll pay a premium for perfect, ready to use material, if it gets used in small qty and lasts a very long time.
@figurehe4d
5 ай бұрын
do they all have the same consistency? I nabbed the desert sand one, and it was easy to use, but I'm not entirely sold on the effect. I had to paint and shade it to make it look convincing, and even then it doesn't look like sand at scale, it looks like gravel. I found spackle / dry DAP to be the king of scaled earth, but it's a little more work to sculpt get the mini attached to the base securely, and get just right overall. however the results blow texture paints out of the water in my opinion... assuming they are all like the one i picked up.
@printsofwar
5 жыл бұрын
I think you might have been using them wrong. I was looking at them and then looked at your review. So anyway, I got a pot from amazon, btw way cheaper then the citadel texture paints, and tried it out last night on a small cave diorama. I did not use it as a paint, but more la a paste that I can sculpt. This morning, it was completely dry and it looked amazing! I was able to build an uneven caver floor, with mini stalagmites. It dried darker then the initial color and could probably just use it like that, however I will paint it to blend more in my décor.I the end, what I liked about it, was the price, and the fact that I could sculpt it. I will switch the that one instead of the overpriced citadel!
@Stormseer88
9 ай бұрын
A great review!
@PilgrimofMatter
4 жыл бұрын
I could see using this for stucco on buildings.
@marcusjanura1867
4 жыл бұрын
Well i created my texture with ground from my garden,mixed it with PVA glue and water
@davidkilby1043
5 жыл бұрын
I have white pumice and brown earth
@CosmicDuskWolf
5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I saw these. Great video. So would you do one on AK's weather effects now?
@tabletopteddy6398
5 жыл бұрын
Creepy i was just looking at reviews on this stuff last night.
@hathgar42
5 жыл бұрын
My first thought was on your stone gollum you made with stones, CA, and baking powder. What if you tried making a wire armature cover with hot glue to build shape and then coat with the rough texture? Seems like it should work, would love to see it if you ever try.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty confident that would work
@kiarakeeper2154
5 жыл бұрын
If say the acrylic grout is a heck of alot cheaper. Even sanded acrylic grout a quick search on Amazon I found one. 6 lbs for less than 10 bucks US where as the featured product was only 6 oz or something for 12 dollars
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked with dozens of grout types as a contractor. They vary greatly. This stuff was similar to ONE specific type....premixed acrylic grout by Mapei called Flexcolor which is distinct in smell and consistency. Traditional grout is a totally different thing and a fraction of the cost, while many other premixed grouts are epoxy based and a different beast entirely. As you can see this stuff is expensive. It’s a very unique product that isn’t the same as whatever you found for under $10.....that was likely traditional grout. www.amazon.com/Mapei-Flexcolor-CQ-Ready-Grout/dp/B00M72ERIA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1543300714&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX150_SY217_QL65&keywords=mapei+flexcolor+cq&dpPl=1&dpID=21CuSqZzIUL&ref=plSrch
@kiarakeeper2154
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial lol I'll take your word for it! I didn't even know acrylic grout was a thing till u said.
@liomii781
3 жыл бұрын
Can I ask, what colour would you base an Orange space marine? Yes Orange, and I mean basketball/tiger orange. Black is the main secondary colour... veterans have blue helmets and red cloaks. I was thinking Martian red earth or a dark grey blue urban ruin look, but I am unsure. Any help?
@alexelsasser4904
5 жыл бұрын
So I love the idea, but I was a little disappointed in the actual test. The way you brushed it all in one direction added the texture of the brush stroke. Some stippling at the end of each application for the test would be good
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to test how it applied and bonded. Being able to brush on smoothly (for me) is a much more impressive feat for the product than being able to be stippled. Obviously you’d apply it in a pattern that suited whatever you were making.
@mmmuted
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder what sort of effects you can get dry-brushing over some of the heavier textures?
@Based_Lord_Humongous
5 жыл бұрын
What Connor said, but mine was an older production in a snap-seal lid. I was able to base my Dark Imperium Marine bases, then (after I had sealed it and taped it shut) came back to the tub and it was all rock hard. Sad.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Yea, I’m curious how long these will last sitting in the pots.
@Based_Lord_Humongous
5 жыл бұрын
As long as you keep the jars shut tight they should last a good little while. The stuff on the lid and sides might dry pretty quick though but you'll still have a lot of product left.
@michaelnorton3042
3 жыл бұрын
Texture for sarrisa building or home made buildings. Streets and roads. I suppose you can paint them on your face if you can't grow a beard and want one
@Gowaduv
5 жыл бұрын
When you were digging through the box there were some small jars. Is Vallejo making paint pots? If those are paints can you review them compared to the dropper bottles? Excellent review of the textures. I'm gonna pick up a couple tubs to try them.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
The other containers you see in the box are their line of weathering effects, not paint. I’ll get to testing those but there are LOTS and they aren’t as straight forward to test.
@hobbyhuman9499
5 жыл бұрын
AWWWW, Should have laid down a layer of that grout for comparison! For the Vallejo stuff, it's not cheap anywhere I've looked!
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't really think it would be worth testing out a product that costs over $80 at Home Depot as a cost effective alternative.
@hobbyhuman9499
5 жыл бұрын
I get you; however, the price per ml might actually be much less than Vallejo. People are always complaining that Army Painter Quickshades are so expensive because they cost $30-$40 CAD for a can. But if you do the math, they are less than half the price of the Games Workshop shades. Those Vallejo products cost about $15 CAD (if you can find them that cheap) for 200ml. Assuming that big bucket of grout is 1 gallon, that works out to a little more than 3700ml. Let's do that exercise. Vallejo: $15/200 ~= $0.075 /ml Grout: $80/3700 ~= $0.0000002/ml The grout is exponentially cheaper.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Per ml yes the grout would be much cheaper. But the initial investment is CONSIDERABLY higher and makes it (in my opinion) not a viable option even if it worked as well....which I'm still not sure it would. The way I see it is it's better to just invest $12 for one pot of the Vallejo stuff and use it on small items, so that the pot will last you pretty much forever. If you want to do big areas I still think an $88 tub of grout is a bad choice and I'd experiment with a home made mixture using acrylic caulking, thinner, and sand. You know what I mean? The price of the grout makes it impractical for both small and large pieces.
@hobbyhuman9499
5 жыл бұрын
You have a valid point. That it's an initial cost barrier. When I first got into basing materials, I dropped $120 on all the Vallejo basing products I could find in one shot, however ;) Considering that many of them are the same with merely different pigment, I would be very interested in seeing an experiment with the grout for comparison. That's all I'm saying. Making your own mixture is a fine idea though. I'd be interested in seeing some experiments on that front too. :D
@hobbyhuman9499
5 жыл бұрын
Also, I love your videos :D I find myself binge watching them frequently.
@nikos52
5 жыл бұрын
Regarding the grain effect on wall panels of fantasy buildings, don't you think it is disproportionate for the scale?
@Kai-ow9gi
3 жыл бұрын
What would say for 3D printed buildings? Like Tatooine houses?
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