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@MaxiTB
23 күн бұрын
Honestly, I don't see a big deal with banning external links on a store page. The most powerful way to link people together is the game itself; in fact the amount of times that I was just looking for a game page in games and there was nothing to be found is impressive and baffling to me. And obviously you could argue, well, how to get those people redirected that haven't bought the game. Easy, make a demo 🙂 Yeah, I know, vertical slicing costs money, but basically a lot of publishers sell demos these days for full price and call it "Early Access".
@X862go
23 күн бұрын
ASCII reviews are why I use steam.
@TremereTT
23 күн бұрын
I have been told (by Bryant Gardiner or so ) that the links were just removed from the game discription, but you can still add links to your vendor-site in the "links-Section"
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew
23 күн бұрын
go to any new indy game release and you will see why they are doing this... bruh, there has been so many cry babies making negative reviews on good indy games this year. it's honestly out of frickin control at this point, this needed to happen.. ppl always leaving comments like "game was too hard would not recommend" or stuff like ppl complaining about a mechanic they would like to see but thumb it down.. its' actually frickin crazy and it has made me upset many times this year reading reviews on new games i like. this absolutely NEEDED to happen. don't downvote a game cuz it was too hard for you omg i hate that mindset.. go play mario kart then lolol
@girlintraining
22 күн бұрын
Hey, 07:29 to 07:54 has some B roll with a lot of flashes / lens flare. That kind of thing is problematic for photosensitivity / epilepsy. I checked the timing and the frequency isn't high enough to cause a seizure at 1x speed, but as a rule of thumb they're best avoided as there's other photosensitive conditions besides epileptic seizure that can be affected by it. If there is something that has a number of flashes / strobe effects, accessibility guidelines I've read suggest no more than 25% (roughly) of the screen have the effect. I mention this because it's easy to shrink content down to quarter size and put a slow scroll, blur, or similar background to frame it, which makes it quick to fix in post. Le gasp, when does THAT ever happen? :D Hope this helps, and keep up the good work!
@newto2794
23 күн бұрын
>Sseth uploads a video on an unknown game >Sales go up >Plenty of positive reviews >The positive reviews in question "Hey Hey People"
@possiblyzslot838
23 күн бұрын
Exactly bro
@SubitoKurai
23 күн бұрын
on GOD
@theodis8134
23 күн бұрын
Influencers influence
@FelixNothus
23 күн бұрын
I would classify this as valuable information.
@burnttoast26
23 күн бұрын
Based Merchant's Guild
@civilprotection3114
23 күн бұрын
The amount of BS reviews that are just “I’m 70 years old and I’m happy I got to experience this game.” Is like something a mom on Facebook would fall for.
@IncognitoActivado
23 күн бұрын
They are bot accounts.
@mitt993
21 күн бұрын
I've only seen one of those reviews that I believed. A dude said he was 60 and loved Valheim. Looked at the play time and it was over 6k hours lmao
@zometthecomet
21 күн бұрын
@@mitt993😂 holy shit that guy lives there
@TakahiroShinsaku
21 күн бұрын
@@mitt993 I am pretty sure playtime can be faked using the systemtime whileplaying (didnt try) but looking at steam id´s such as this one: *76561198804885671* It kinda looks like it(or a tool that can do it). Because one simply cant play like 3+ Games for over 427hours on the _same Day_ while also not getting a single achievement!🤨(oh one of those games even gives an achievement by starting it, well...)
@jchinckley
20 күн бұрын
@@zometthecomet I live in Cairn... I have over 12K hours in Grim Dawn. I bought it, then played it, then bought the few things not considered expansions and continued to play it. It is, to my knowledge, the only ARPG (PoE doesn't count because of the way they manage the game and GGG itself--plus it's free to play where Grim Dawn is a one time purchase and you play forever) that has confirmed a _third_ expansion that is coming in 2025.
@deniskobza5092
23 күн бұрын
Valve kinda made shitposting even more bad with the reward system. There are so many bait reviews and trying to be funny reviews for sake of getting rewards from other users
@TheLuceon
23 күн бұрын
Not just with the reviews, comments and threads too. I don't get the idea behind the rewards and points for steam, it's just a mess.
@akatsukicloak
23 күн бұрын
And most of them are just copy paste cookie cutter template jokes retold a million times
@agentduck9285
23 күн бұрын
‘Before I played this game’ etc etc
@gronkusbonkus
23 күн бұрын
Ive seen way too many “cannot sex the ____” reviews its really starting to get to me
@rb98769
23 күн бұрын
Yeah discussion boards are also full of people baiting for clown awards.
@DenethorDurrandir
23 күн бұрын
Steam users upvoting ASCII ass reviews Valve: *Surprised Pikachu face*
@jamez2918
23 күн бұрын
Working as intended
@britsunvaar9297
23 күн бұрын
Everyone is up voting, guess that means they don't like it, better remove it.
@disbelief3911
23 күн бұрын
@@britsunvaar9297 That's what I fear when voting on Amazon reviews.
@fairphoneuser9009
23 күн бұрын
And downvotes are just for your inner peace, as they aren't displayed anymore...
@brodriguez11000
22 күн бұрын
@@britsunvaar9297 Reddit comes to Steam.
@6661313
23 күн бұрын
typically i check negative reviews for any product first, since they are typically a better indicator of the state of it, and i have never seen a site that doesn't give the option to search negative reviews" people leaving good reviews are often just "it's good", but negative reviews tend to expand more on the things they don't like. people saying a game is broken, wont load ect gives me pause, but people complaining about graphics? or people complaining something is single player, when i see that as a positive review since that's what i want
@cloudynguyen6527
23 күн бұрын
Same. My usual review I often seek is when they say they like some aspects of the game then lists out a lot of things they don't like. It's a good indicator to know that the reviewer isn't biased and wants some aspects of the games to be fixed or updated. It's like saying the game is decent but it could be better.
@Narangarath
23 күн бұрын
I usually look for the negatives as well, because while I'm pretty open to playing a very large variety of styles, graphics levels etc, I also have a medium-ish list of absolute deal breaker issues that will ruin my good time. I find it's better for me (for variety and longevity) to avoid the things I don't like, because otherwise I always end up playing essentially the same 3 games just in new skins.
@Barney_rubble983
23 күн бұрын
I will do the same, I will see what people didn't like first and check their reasoning.
@IncognitoActivado
23 күн бұрын
Same.
@SaHaRaSquad
23 күн бұрын
Not to mention the rare negative review of someone who played the game for like 200 hours, is fed up with it and gives you a fair, detailed two-page review listing everything that one could perceive as bad in the game.
@teenybopper777
23 күн бұрын
Maybe they can start getting rid of unhelpful "curators" who post one-word comments on every single game on Steam. I've got literally hundreds of curators blocked and yet more and more keep springing up
@hahasamian8010
23 күн бұрын
Don't take away my Nep Reviews 😢
@Limp_Briskit
23 күн бұрын
CAW CAW
@enigma7385
23 күн бұрын
No
@enigma7385
23 күн бұрын
No
@SaltSpirits
23 күн бұрын
“Curators” are just the admins of community groups, they have no affiliation with valve
@ravenshrike
23 күн бұрын
People were pissed at The Verge because they were dicks about it. As for the ROG, pray you never need to send it in for warranty. And I guarantee that if you try to install SteamOS to the ROG, ASUS will use that as another reason to illegally try to deny a warranty claim.
@MonsieurDeVeteran
23 күн бұрын
Bell lives in Ireland, aka the EU, thus ASUS is a bit more controlled here regarding repairs... I had some warranty issues with certain ASUS products, and they were all repaird, no questions asked, and this in an Eastern European country, part of EU though. Yeah, it sucks what is happening in Murica land, but hey, you pay for all that freedom somehow if you don't want "socialism" aka laws to protect consumers against big tech :)
@burnttoast26
23 күн бұрын
@@MonsieurDeVeteranThe problem is that lobbyists are aggressive and less regulated over here, and that has an influence on politics down to the constituents. That kinda encourages labeling anything "big government action" as communist (I really do think communism is bad, but this case is taken way too far) which can include pro-consumer regulation
@Ofjkk
23 күн бұрын
dont they ask to remove ssd anyway?
@AndRei-yc3ti
23 күн бұрын
@@burnttoast26 you think its bad because you really dont know anything abt it and everything you think you know is a lie
@burnttoast26
23 күн бұрын
@@AndRei-yc3ti This sounds like bait
@GrogGurgler
23 күн бұрын
Everytime i look at the comment section, the dead internet theory seems more plausible
@Noblemartel
23 күн бұрын
The fact that I’m unsure if you’re also a bot or not really drives it home 😂
@Shadare
23 күн бұрын
This would be a perfect bot comment
@GrogGurgler
23 күн бұрын
@@Noblemartel Response acknowledged. Your query has been logged. Determining human or bot status is a complex algorithmic process. Please continue to engage with content. Have a productive day.
@ThatGuyNamedRick
23 күн бұрын
@@GrogGurgler You forgot to start with "Certainly, we can help with that!" and then add a bunch of emojis at the end after you ask their opinion on whatever.
@attractivegd9531
23 күн бұрын
??
@Danceofmasks
23 күн бұрын
"In the long run ... erode user confidence" That describes the gaming industry. The entire gaming industry.
@yurisei6732
23 күн бұрын
And the customerbase frankly, BG3 getting such widespread praise really shattered any remaining illusion I was under that consumers have good taste.
@Tracenji
23 күн бұрын
@@yurisei6732 go play COD 2
@Tingleton11
23 күн бұрын
@@yurisei6732 if you say so man
@Lilliathi
23 күн бұрын
The entire AAA industry maybe. Indies are extremely varied.
@yurisei6732
22 күн бұрын
@@Tracenji It's hilarious that people who like BG3 think criticism is coming from the direction of COD players. BG3 is bad because it uses the pathetically oversimplified D&D 5e system. But you keep playing Baby's First CRPG, don't let my higher standards stop you.
@ThatGuyKazz
23 күн бұрын
I can understand Valve wanting to get rid of cross product advertising so that everything on a game's store page is about that game but I don't see a good reason to disallow redirects to something like a community discord or feedback website. Banning those sorts of things make it harder for players to engage with developers which is never a good thing. When a developer can say "Click here to give us feedback" that is a good thing and I don't like that Valve is making a policy to get rid of that sort of thing.
@jamesschmames6416
23 күн бұрын
I'm sure Valve would rather developers come to their forums rather than sending people over to their site. As a user I don't want to have to go to a hundered different sites with a hundred different interfaces to voice my opinion or get user feedback. If a developer can't be bothered to monitor their Steam discussion page, I can't be bothered with that developer.
@hahasamian8010
23 күн бұрын
@@jamesschmames6416 ...You know that they usually do both, right?
@ThoraeJenkins
23 күн бұрын
A lot of games are putting those links into their games main menus. I'm personally sick of trying to read a games description only to get linked to 3 other games owned by that publisher that are otherwise unrelated to the product I'm looking at.
@todesziege
23 күн бұрын
There is already a dedicated section for links in the sidebar - I assume that will remain.
@kmeanxneth
23 күн бұрын
the devs can pinn the discord or website link in top of the game's community page or forums. like they are already pinning stuff.
@agodelianshock9422
23 күн бұрын
The ASCII art reviews are generally up there for most helpful. Its an almost universal sign of positive feedback on that platform.
@Ramk0core
23 күн бұрын
Indeed. For the longest time, I considered finding a review containing Shrek's smiling face telling me that a game is good and I should buy it as a legit sign of quality. 9/10 times, it truly was.
@William0271
17 күн бұрын
And yet it's utterly useless.
@JayMaverick
23 күн бұрын
I'm so tired of the "polite Internet". You can't leave a comment on KZitem anymore if it actually valuable critique, but it's fine to spam some investment scam. If Valve starts censoring comments that aren't glowing reviews of the game, then nobody wins.
@glenfoxh
16 күн бұрын
I agree with that about KZitem. Is one of my more resent gripes. Rumor has it that Elon has bought Google, or is going to. I personally hope he does, and gives KZitem the same enema treatment he had given to Twitter a wile back. I however can do without it having it's name changed to X also. X-Tube seems too much like a porn site name.
@antnuh765
23 күн бұрын
The best improvement to reviews would be to add a "mixed" review option. Still can't understand why they don't have that. EDIT: since some people don't understand the use of a mixed review, let me give some quick examples: - recommend on a sale - dont buy until x technical issue is fixed - i love the game minus one big issue that many people might not encounter in their playthrough i don't understand the hatred for nuance. doesn't everyone hate rotten tomatoes because of their binary positive and negative aggregate score? i don't think limiting people's opinions to "yes or no" does much to help the consumer or the reviewers but yall are entitled to your opinions ig
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
Because it’s a yes or no question. Do you recommend it or do you not? If you’re mixed then you likely don’t recommend it.
@-YELDAH
23 күн бұрын
That's just counterproductive, the entire point of a review is for the platform and its users to gauge the value of the title, by weighing positive and negative reviews, if you can't decide, why are you writing a review and who would it be useful to
@speedingoffence
23 күн бұрын
I agree. It'd give devs an easy tool to look at what they can do to improve scores. I'd take it one step further, if someone puts an 'on the fence' review, have steam actually ask them again in two months, maybe it's been fixed and a mixed can be upgraded to an upvote!
@-YELDAH
23 күн бұрын
@@speedingoffence there's already a system for informing the reviewer of an opertunity to update their review in the library, being any more invasive than that could be seen as unnecessary spam Also this isn't a voting system, using terminology like that is kinda janky and smells like reddit
@burnttoast26
23 күн бұрын
IMO the anti-mixed crowd are mired in "you have to be one team or the other, no filthy nuance" tribalism
@Dead_Hitori
23 күн бұрын
Wish they would ban 3rd party launchers and denuvo
@theodis8134
23 күн бұрын
Or just let us hide the games with those "features"
@brodriguez11000
22 күн бұрын
Fracture the gaming landscape. What could possibly go wrong?
@bltzcstrnx
19 күн бұрын
Great way to end up in anti-trust court.
@ElEscolta
19 күн бұрын
Better to just complain directly to Ubisoft/EA than Valve, its them that's the problem.
@mcawesome9705
18 күн бұрын
just outright banning 3rd party launchers sounds like a bad idea when not all of them are just "you have to click play a second time" there should definitely be the option to skip them though, unless they're somehow _absolutely required_
@TeamCGS2005
23 күн бұрын
Prefer the changes to Steam reviews. Sick of reading the same copy and paste baloney reviews like "I'm a father who doesn't play many games but played this one with my son having the most fun in my life" or "I'm and 80 year old gamer who plays this with my son. It brought us closed together than ever before..."
@IncognitoActivado
23 күн бұрын
Same.
@wiliestrogue2924
17 күн бұрын
Go away. My son and I are closer than ever because of the old Steam reviews.
@IncognitoActivado
17 күн бұрын
@@wiliestrogue2924 I don't care.
@wiliestrogue2924
17 күн бұрын
@@IncognitoActivado You're heartless. I was farming thumbs. BTW...censorship is wrong.
@IncognitoActivado
17 күн бұрын
@@wiliestrogue2924 Ok?
@Mightydoggo
23 күн бұрын
The problem with redirecting steam users is, that steamusers don´t leave steam. They don´t care about your developer Discord or website. Discord especially is a huge PITA imho.
@Duraspaz
23 күн бұрын
As soon as a game asks me to join their discord for support I just get uninterested in it. It's one of the worst ways to find support for errors or bugs and needing to dig for hours cause everyone uses different wording while steam forums just give you an easier overlay to look at what you are looking for is just way better. Though only helps if people or the devs actually check the forums for the game
@Bobylein1337
19 күн бұрын
I joined a lot of games forums over the years but fuck discord, I am too old for that shit app
@andy-gamer
17 күн бұрын
@@Bobylein1337hhmmmm
@itsmenatika
17 күн бұрын
I dont care about developer's discord. No one cares about me, why should i then? Thats good change, that doesnt stop them from promoting it in th game if they want so nothing changes for good games
@James_McKay
13 күн бұрын
I join quite a lot of game discords both for assistance with and talking about games I'm playing. An example is Barotrauma which I joined the discord for to talk about designing subs. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they are bad and Steam making it harder to access them is not an improvement.
@Lyfalda
23 күн бұрын
7:30 I actually completely disagree with that because Steam is already providing the tools necessary to the devs to address that. There is a "link and informations" section for discord links, its not meant to be in the "about game" section.
@TroopurHQ
23 күн бұрын
Fully agree. I hate trying to getting a feel for a game and having to sift through memes and s**tposts to a point where it's easier to just click "show negative reviews only" and judge a game by that instead.
@guesswho2778
20 күн бұрын
this is what i do for most things, not just games on steam.
@Jirodyne
20 күн бұрын
@@guesswho2778 Agreed. Negative Reviews will always give you MORE better information than positive. OP, if you are just trying to read Positive Reviews only, and base your buying on just that alone, I have a bridge to sell you with 10 thousand positive reviews. Don't be an idiot, read mainly the negative reviews, they will tell you the issues plaguing the company, product, and customer support, and will be 100% more helpful than "I like this product, it does exactly as it says on the page, and I have no other useful info to give you" Reviews.
@XionSteel
23 күн бұрын
I personally want a neutral review option, only having thumbs up and thumbs down is fairly restricting when a game can literally just be Meh. Also when it comes to having sites and community things on store pages, there is already a section for that on the right side info bars. They are a lot less noticeable, but all you have to do to get people to go there is to say, "check out our website/socials in the link on the right" or something like that. promoting games on the other hand i'm a little more on the fence about since its a nice reminder that certain devs are still working on stuff, The current example for myself is Regalia having Sacrifire's page on it, has nothing to do with Regalia, but im reminded that Sacrifire is still there every time they update the former..
@MetaMdad
23 күн бұрын
You see the problem with that is, a meh review would add no valuable information in terms of the search algorithm valve uses to recommend games. The very idea of a neutral option is useless because the question valve is asking isn't if the game is good but if you would recommend the game to others. It's a yes or no question, if the game works fine and you can see someone enjoying it positive, If it's a technical mess vote negative.
@TheEvathcebor
23 күн бұрын
If it's meh, you should use a down button. You obviously don't recommend it, as there are many other better options out there.
@Chareidos
23 күн бұрын
I personally would prefer a 5 star system. It would be much more valuable to me than a yes or no recommendation.
@polca4love
23 күн бұрын
@@TheEvathcebor Yep, is not a "like/dislike" or "good/bad" review, but whether you will recommend it to others. Something a lot of people seem to miss.
@XionSteel
23 күн бұрын
@@Chareidos I use Kobo for my book reader and that does have a star system, i guess the only problem with that is you'll have a bunch of people that like it to give it its usual 3-5 star rating, but then you have just a group of people that bomb it with 1 star reviews, which creates a wonky graph to make it look like it was maliciously done. So i can see why they wouldn't want to go with that.
@someonefromthefuture5269
23 күн бұрын
I get why you would like this as a game developer and / or a publisher. As a Steam user though, I'd much rather Steam keep itself as hands-off as possible when it comes to reviews. I find that the sentiments of the "great unwashed" are a much more useful metric for me than the average review by a gaming journalist for example.
@dirge7459
23 күн бұрын
Yeah I can see this from a customer pov, but like, as a customer, ASCII "reviews" are objectively not helpful and count as junk data in the science world, and as a user of Steam I find junk data obstructive to what I am trying to learn/judge for a product I wish to buy. Being completely hands off has shown that there are more than enough people out there willing to actively muddy the water well to a point where the system itself becomes pointless to use, thus some changes/enforcements must be made. Relying on an honour system for everything is how you allow anarchy, and well, I despise anarchy as a whole and I'd rather some order be brought to these systems (like the clown emoji farming that has plagued Steam forums, Steam reviews and it's guides systems, all of which are based on the hands off and honour code).
@Mavendow
23 күн бұрын
@@dirge7459 They count as junk data in the science world because they're difficult to interpret. For actual users who aren't autistic, they can mean a lot. Before I get bashed for talking about autism, I *am* autistic. I'm speaking from experience.
@Mavendow
23 күн бұрын
@@dirge7459 By the way, the honor system brought the entire world into the modern era. It's only now that that system has fully disintegrated that things are falling apart. "Honorable justice xxxxx"
@kingqasmoke2802
23 күн бұрын
@dirge7459 they are helpful. You just don't know how to interpret them.
@someonefromthefuture5269
23 күн бұрын
@@dirge7459 I'm more concerned about corruption and mutual back scratching tainting the process than about anarchy. User reviews are a tool, and I don't see the ASCII art reviews as a real issue. It's easy for me to find reviews that actually provide useful information. Beyond that, even just the pure negative to positive ratio is quite useful 99% of the time.
@ADreamingTraveler
23 күн бұрын
Almost all the steam reviews I see now at the top first shown to me are just meme or humorous posts trying to farm steam points from badges. I'm glad they're finally doing something about it because it's annoying not seeing reviews that actually are helpful
@todesziege
23 күн бұрын
...and they all have dozens or hundreds of "helpful" ratings, too, while actual reviews get buried as noone reads them. I don't see how they would fix this.
@asteria9963
23 күн бұрын
@@todesziegeBy looking for combinations of certain elements and tossing those reviews to the bottom. It's easy, and they'll get it done. I know they can.
@todesziege
23 күн бұрын
@@asteria9963 I guess we'll see.
@olzhas1one755
19 күн бұрын
@todesziege They can fix it by banning people who post worthless reviews from reviewing for a week, a month, or a lifetime if they continue to do that.
@todesziege
19 күн бұрын
@@olzhas1one755 Valve doing actual moderation - I'll believe it when I see it.
@bibby659
23 күн бұрын
The problem is, these types of systems always rely on a type of algorithm... and you of all people should understand what that means in the long term. Algorithms as a whole can be tweaked and touched up on, for better.... but always for the worst. There is no scenario where it will typically end up being beneficial in any way really. The least they could do if they want to limit worthless reviews is simply to allow a sorting function for the review page. A more indepth filter if you will that allows people to more accurately guage what they see review wise. No algorithm needed to auto sift through random garbage like meme reviews or obvious bot posts.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
@@bibby659 question how would an “indepth filter” work in your mind? Cause that’s an algorithm
@Obscurite1221
23 күн бұрын
"They'll tweak the algorithm for worse" Bro you clearly don't use google search if you care about that. Valve does what they do because they want a good service. They don't even NEED to improve anything because they already offer the best possible platform from all the available options. I'm sure some memes will still be near the top, but most of the results will be actionable, useful reviews you can glance over to see what the game is like.
@16minutesinspace
23 күн бұрын
A filter *is* an algorithm though. You're decrying the use of an algorithm to filter out useless reviews, then in the same breath suggesting the implementation of an algorithm to filter out useless reviews
@IncognitoActivado
23 күн бұрын
@@Obscurite1221 Steam is a DRM system, so no.
@Obscurite1221
23 күн бұрын
@@IncognitoActivado First of all, how does that have anything to do with the topic? Secondly, Steam is not a DRM system. It is a distribution platform. Devs can opt in to optional Steam DRM software very easily, but it is still the dev's game and the dev can control who gets what. Case in point, a dev can set their game to literally be free with no restrictions at any time.
@Bodphrah78
23 күн бұрын
I wish they would add functionality to the developer made games, currently if you click on the dev from the store page you get sent to the publisher section which is not great if you are a fan of indie games and want to check out anything else they have developed.
@hotworlds
23 күн бұрын
That only happens when the developer doesn't set up their own page. Lots of indies just don't know to do it. It would be nice if steam set it up automatically though
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
what games is it not working for you? I checked a few indies and it worked fine for me
@Soulspeed68
23 күн бұрын
That's the publisher fault not valve. The publisher decides where these links go and a lot of them just link to themself.
@Razer5542
20 күн бұрын
Honestly, Valve should just remove the steam awards system.. Ever since they introduced those, the amount of shitposts and bait reviews has skyrocketed... No idea either who had this bright idea at Valve to introduce those steam awards... It was obvious right from the start that it was going to get abused..
@TarsonTalon
18 күн бұрын
Me who gets awards for genuinely informative reviews: *Sideways monkey stare and reflect You can't make people not dumb. Whatever system you create, it will be abused. If you create no system, then someone will make one anyway and then abuse it. I think the primary takeaway is you can only rely on your own thinking abilities to sort truth from BS.
@Concerned502
23 күн бұрын
AI review sorting Biases learned from biases of programmer. Considering all the hot takes from those hired to be "community managers" the past couple of years: Color me skeptical.
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
for me it's hard to put trust in ratings/reviews if the game is not atleast
@TheAkashicTraveller
23 күн бұрын
ARM PC gaming handhelds aren't happening anytime remotely soon. The performance might be there but the software isn't. Making games run on a different OS is one thing making them run on a different hardware architecture? Not happening.
@TheAkashicTraveller
23 күн бұрын
@@Jan12700 Yes but valve can't rely on ports PC handhelds just don't have enough market share. They have enough trouble just convincing devs not to muck up things with third party launchers or to configure anti-cheat to work. So unless windows ARM is wildly successful for gaming it won't happen.
@TheAkashicTraveller
23 күн бұрын
@@Jan12700 Maybe but, as you pointed out, not soon even if so.
@SmellsLikeRacing
21 күн бұрын
@@Jan12700 LOL, x86 isn't dying anytime soon. Apple's Game Porting Toolkit is there not be used like Proton, it's made to convince developers to port their games because so few do. Consoles used RISC before PS4 and Xbox One, but they switched to 64bit x86. Apple will not drive the popularity of ARM builds for games, only Windows for ARM would, if itself even becomes popular.
@pollenus5796
23 күн бұрын
Valve working to get Steam OS on third-party machines is super exciting to me. I'd like a desktop version at some point so I can move away from Windows with a Linux distro I have a bit of experience with
@emanuel81111
23 күн бұрын
I dont see negative reviews for games/devs they dont deserve it. So i wish they dont mess up the ability of players to express themselves whether respesctful or not . I prefer total freedom
@Leonhart_93
23 күн бұрын
Most players are sheep anyway, they will leave reviews based on the general consensus without thinking much. Like playing some F2P games for 0.2h and giving a negative review. I would definitely make it so that a longer play time is required for reviews. If it were me, I would not be interested in giving total freedom to such people when their opinion is not relevant.
@emanuel81111
23 күн бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 So you prefer someone else tells you what to say and what not to say? Why would you give up your freedom?. And dont tell me "not me but them! those who leave troll review" Because if you let someone else police a player review, they will also go for yours freedom to review. The line is blur between a troll and a honest review.
@user-bn5df6hl1d
23 күн бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 to some point i think listing time played does a good job of that if you got 2k hours, and a negative review? You got my attention
@emanuel81111
23 күн бұрын
@@user-bn5df6hl1d But what if i buy a game, play for half an hour and i found the devs lied about a feature, maybe the Story mode that was promise on release is deleted in 1.0, so i see that , inmediately leave a negative review after 15 minutes of playing the game... Why would me review be less important than anyone else if its honest and well argumented? Its like saying "no! you have to eat the whole chicken to say whether its good or bad food, doesnt matter if you take a small bite and already determined that its cold and raw"
@dragonriderabens9761
23 күн бұрын
there is always a minority of contrarians who give a negative review just to be different more often than not, they are just attention seeking trolls with no life and no happiness but occasionally....you get that one meme lord like that one guy who left a negative review on Portal 2 Geralt of Rivia is the UN and it just said "I hate portals"
@Rastloese
23 күн бұрын
The Steam review system is maybe the best thing about Steam, it gives a very usefull impression about the quality of the game. I really hope they dont mess with it very much.
@IncognitoActivado
23 күн бұрын
Kinda.
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
Yourself with experience watching youtube gameplays is still the best review, if you want to read different comments read youtube comments then comments from t0rrents. Then lastly steam reviews. For me I check a game in playst0re, pictures and descriptions are often if not always useless for me, so I lookup in youtube "Tower Defense II gameplay" and it will give you a much better picture and feeling what the gameplay is like, and it only gets more accurate as you get more experience.
@waffleswafflson3076
23 күн бұрын
Good stuff. I wish they could sequester early access games off to their own corner too
@MrJay_White
23 күн бұрын
given the youtube censor bots, using machines to scale human judgment is so VERY open to abuse by activists.
@5h4d0w5l1f3
23 күн бұрын
And, you know, everyone else. Trolls are just as likely. Tell me more how you hate absolutely any kind of change xD
@augustday9483
23 күн бұрын
The KZitem censorbot doesn't even work! Obvious scambots run rampant on this platform, and completely innocuous comments from real humans disappear with no explanation.
@RAFMnBgaming
23 күн бұрын
@@5h4d0w5l1f3 Trolls are definitely the most likely. Give the internet something, they will break it.
@Sparticulous
22 күн бұрын
Indeed, so many key words end up with instant censorship
@augustday9483
22 күн бұрын
Ironically my message in this very thread was deleted.
@jamesschmames6416
23 күн бұрын
running steam on an non x86 chip is a lot further off than most think. At least if you want to have access to your full library.
@brodriguez11000
22 күн бұрын
Have to utilize an underused feature of most CPUs, virtualization.
@TheZilikyn
23 күн бұрын
there is not a game out there that gets reviewed bombed that doesn’t deserve it.
@Frugl1
23 күн бұрын
Discord links can still be featured on a Store page by including it in the social info for the app, in which case it will be shown in the store page sidebar.
@Clancysway
21 күн бұрын
and how many people look at that shitty button?
@Seoul_Soldier
23 күн бұрын
I'm starting to believe the dead internet theory.
@Dramn_
23 күн бұрын
why?
@Joe-ti7qd
23 күн бұрын
@@Dramn_the comment sections. Evidence enough.
@hahasamian8010
23 күн бұрын
Idk, everyone who says this is the most NPC comments I'm finding ahah
@Dramn_
23 күн бұрын
@@Joe-ti7qd so are you a bot?
@sneescampers
21 күн бұрын
@@Dramn_ no but most articles are AI generated it's just the people commenting don't realize it.
@Pa1ad1no
23 күн бұрын
Its funny how its only review bombing to them when its negative
@wiliestrogue2924
17 күн бұрын
This. The amount of paid reviews on newer games has been staggering. New World is a great example.
@akurvaanyadat
15 күн бұрын
Or that one game where u are a cat with a backpack and every review is like : "cat."
@wiliestrogue2924
14 күн бұрын
@@akurvaanyadat cat.
@TerminusTartaros
23 күн бұрын
I wish Steam would stop with the Good or bad review style. Because there are so many games I am like "I cannot really endorse it but I am also not against this game. It is not bad for certain people." so essentially games that are 5/10.
@ThoraeJenkins
23 күн бұрын
If you don't endorse the game, not leaving a review is the same as leaving a "meh" review would be. It would not provide anything a negative review wouldn't, and you already aren't leaving a positive review.
@polca4love
23 күн бұрын
Sounds like either no point in leaving a review, or a thumbs down, since that means that you don't recommend it.
@CentreMetre
23 күн бұрын
If its meh you wouldnt recommend it to other players right? So that means a thumbs down
@Narangarath
23 күн бұрын
@@ThoraeJenkins Not if you give reasons for your opinion. That's infinitely more useful than leaving no review.
@_fawkes
23 күн бұрын
You alone don't decide what's good, bad or meh. It's the collective data. If you don't recommend it, then there is clearly one answer. A game is truly meh when almost 50% of the reviewers don't recommend the game. A potential user will see the collective recommendation percentage before making a decision.
@YammoYammamoto
23 күн бұрын
Valve are pulling so many wins... doing all the correct moves... and being so gorgeously consumer oriented... I'm already crying over when it ends. Because when it does - what do we have? Origin...? UConnect...? Thank you Valve... Please continue on the path you are on!
@_fawkes
23 күн бұрын
When Valve and GOG fails, it's time to sail the high-seas for good.
@computernerd8157
20 күн бұрын
@@_fawkes When that happens no new games will created. I will buy legit from company website like I been doing before steam was a thing lol. Outside of that making my own stuff is always an option that I am currently doing.
@itsmenatika
17 күн бұрын
@@computernerd8157most of devs dont care anyways and will still require you to buy million dlcs
@shieldphaser
23 күн бұрын
Yeah I uh... would not suggest using machine learning for this kind of thing. There are always more bad side effects than good ones.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
Eh there’s a reason everyone’s using it, for every bad moderation call there’s a thousand other normal moderation cases.
@tukib_
23 күн бұрын
Bravo on the nuanced take. No need to hire a data scientist now.
@speedingoffence
23 күн бұрын
@@FaticusDolphinius No one uses AI to improve things. They use it because it's cheaper.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
@@speedingoffence well no they use it because you can’t feasibly deal with 132 million people in an efficient manner.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
@@speedingoffence in this case they use it because it’s the only way to effectively go through millions of interactions
@Nevir202
21 күн бұрын
2:38 I DGAF if their recommendation is valuable data or not. You can't review on Steam without paying, and if you paid you're MORE than entitled to your opinion on your purchase.
@LTV746
23 күн бұрын
So Demos get there own category called trending free? Like new and trending? Awesome. Reminds me of getting a demo disc
@jamesdarby6149
23 күн бұрын
The good old days
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
only after I checked 🏴☠bay
@matrixcom69
23 күн бұрын
Oh good, random moderators, of all people, will be handling whether or not a review is helpful or not. Surely this won't backfire.
@Kassadinftw
21 күн бұрын
So it's going to turn steam into reddit with powermods controlling everything, wonderful.
@GeminiImpact19
23 күн бұрын
No, the problem with the ROG Ally is that it's owned by ASUS
@cablefeed3738
23 күн бұрын
My ROG Ally is better than my brother's Steam deck OLED. I trust steam as much as I trust ASUS Which is to say not at all?I respect steam and am more worried about asus.Yes, but I am prepared for either of them to stab me in the back and make my product useless at any time.
@tacothunder2298
23 күн бұрын
@@cablefeed3738 Ally is indeed more powerful but it is still a worst system because Windows is not a handheld OS and lacks all SteamOS features/optimization for a handheld. That being said, Asus and Lenovo are missing the point of these handhelds, they are supossed to be portable experiences, not high end mini laptops.
@bilbobagend8155
23 күн бұрын
@@cablefeed3738I think he's talking about the ASUS scandal earlier this year where it was found that they arbitrarily reject RMAs, or worse try to claim out of warranty damage and then threaten to ship back your device dissasembled if you don't pay an exhorbitant repair cost. Valve is inherently more trustworthy in this regard since they actually made the deck user servicable, and they sell replacement parts.
@vael_
23 күн бұрын
@@cablefeed3738If you know anything about dealing with ASUS warranty or repair services you would trust ASUS much less than at current, I bet.
@Lestibournes
23 күн бұрын
@@cablefeed3738Both are PCs so you could always wipe the disk and install whatever system you want.
@blueredingreen
23 күн бұрын
Steam are doing anti-competition things again by banning links on store pages. Games supported via Discord is becoming near-ubiquitous. It sure is a convenient coincidence that making stores "about games" would make more people go to Steam Community instead of Discord if they want discussion about the game, and would generally keep more people on Steam. Also, not being allowed to show similar games is weird. I'm frequently going to the dev page of a game to see other games by that dev. An "other games by this dev" section on the store page benefits users, it benefits devs, and it benefits Steam by potentially getting them more sales. If anything, I'd have made that a fixed section on every store page, which devs can customise and which users can turn off if they don't want that. But the reviews changes make sense, assuming their priority is review usefulness.
@jonrellim
23 күн бұрын
I'm waiting for Valve to get SteamOS back on pc platforms. If they do that in a proper way, they could shift the pc gaming industry and potentionally blow microsoft a massive blow. A dedicated gaming OS for pc could be very interesting.
@josephk6136
21 күн бұрын
Holo ISO has entered the chat.
@jonrellim
20 күн бұрын
@@josephk6136fan project, and no nvidia support. That is why we need valve to make an officially supported version.
@computernerd8157
20 күн бұрын
SteamOS is a PC platform I thought, the only issues is convincing enough game studio to develop games for it instead of just supporting windows.
@jonrellim
20 күн бұрын
@@computernerd8157 it used to be fully supported, you can still find the official support pages for steamos on pc. but since 3.0 it was solely made for the Steam Deck, and proper pc support was neglected.
@jonrellim
19 күн бұрын
@@computernerd8157 technically yes, but the recent versions of SteamOS (3.0 and beyond) have been developed with only the steamdeck in mind. in fact, if you look up the older documentation, there are official pages on valve support on how to setup steamos on the pc, but those are meant for the older versions.
@AzurePursuer
23 күн бұрын
I think it's silly to not let them have a Discord link on their store page.
@Ofjkk
23 күн бұрын
it's probably an unannounced way to prevent 18+ game developers from linking to an uncensor patch
@SaHaRaSquad
23 күн бұрын
This gives me the same vibes as Apple banning apps for daring to link to the project's homepage.
@FaticusDolphinius
22 күн бұрын
@@AzurePursuer that’s not what’s happening, the links portion on the Steam page is staying. You just can’t put links in the games description.
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
@@FaticusDolphinius If this proceeds I thought of putting just the invite code or QR code photo of the discord link, or put it ingame.
@ReiCaixa
23 күн бұрын
I LOVE that when you were talking about Demos you showed Demo from TF2.
@Flynn217something
23 күн бұрын
Some of the most telling and informative reviews I've read were in meme format.
@HaragothNAR
23 күн бұрын
Steam needs to leave the review system alone, this creates a vague crack for bad actors, specifically devs, to exploit and find reasons to have negative reviews taken down. Its the first compromise that will probably lead to larger ones down the road.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
@@HaragothNAR this already can happen, devs have always been able to report reviews to get deleted if they break TOS
@asteria9963
23 күн бұрын
Apparently, there are still people who have never learned that doing nothing fixes nothing, it only enables existing bad behavior. Users shouldn't have to scroll through dozens of braindead reviews to get the info they need. If anything, it makes me want to not buy the game, especially if it's a multi-player game and I run the risk of having to play with these clowns. The current system is useless and makes everyone look bad.
@DeadSpaceWing
20 күн бұрын
If you leave a meme or one word review, you should be banned from leaving any more reviews.
@sztosikdang
23 күн бұрын
The thing about steam is if you go into negative reviews and all they say is "no sex" you know a game is good Except for certain kinds of games
@Hadeks_Marow
23 күн бұрын
All this will down is give users a tool to silence user reviews by exploiting the "funny" reaction. The funny button now turns into a "false report" button to shadowban reviews who, left a meme, sure, but who also give it a thumbs up or down. . . which is still a critical piece of judgement even if the actually thing being said isn't. The problem is the approval rating doesn't base it on what is being said, only if you thumb up or down. Meaning what is being said doesn't even matter to begin with. But despite the SYSTEM not caring about what is being said and only cares about the critical upvote/downvote part. . . valve are forcing a policy to fix something that their own system doesn't even value. It's just. . . backwards. It's like a traffic cop pulling over a car because the kid in the back seat was playing his music too loud. It has nothing to do with the driving of the car that was pulled over. The steam user score. . . has absolutely NOTHING to do with the arbitrarily required comment attached to the user review (thumb up/thumb down). So why are we policing that rating based on the comment if the comment didn't matter to begin with? It's misguided. Theres no other way to describe it unless it's intentionally malicious.
@Gasmask15
23 күн бұрын
The thing with the outside steam links, there are already little listings on the side of a games store page next to the description for those to be listed. Yea its smaller but I dont think thats going away entirely.
@tee_es_bee
22 күн бұрын
9:15 PSA: Asus customer support is an absolute nightmare. Avoid if at all possible. 🧡💛🧡
@kaleiohulee6693
23 күн бұрын
Above all else Steam is a storefront and their goal is to sell you something. Only trust them as much as you have to.
@smellthensing2221
23 күн бұрын
The moment Valve refreshes SteamOS for desktop is the moment Windows dies.
@TheMrDewil
23 күн бұрын
How high are you, bro? ~1.4 billion Windows users vs ~120-130 million Steam users. The only world where Windows dies, is your fantasy. Not every PC user out there is a gamer, you know.
@Bourinos02
23 күн бұрын
Precisely, I don't want to update to Windows 11 so if SteamOS picks up on desktop machines, I won't even look back once.
@balsalmalberto8086
23 күн бұрын
Windows died to me after Windows 7.
@GrogGurgler
23 күн бұрын
@@TheMrDewilit would nonetheless be a serious threat for their monoploly
@dirge7459
23 күн бұрын
@@TheMrDewil You assume everything stays the same, and yet time changes literally EVERYTHING. To say we're going to stay with Windows OS for the next thousand years as an example is just straight up insane thoughts to have.
@Matt-mh5ud
23 күн бұрын
I want a middle option for neither recommend nor dislike in reviews. There are honestly a ton of games that really aren't worthy of either of the binary choices. Really Really want a stable/official Steam OS ready for the desktop to dual boot or replace Windows as an option. Don't care about the Ally. The problem is it's by Asus. The bridge burning they've done to their reputation over the past several years has me passing their products up.
@8BitShadow
23 күн бұрын
Speaking of steam reviews, they really need to add a 'recently updated' tab. People are encouraged *not* to update their review because even if they do the only people that'll see it are those in your friends list (unless you post then update within ~8 hours of posting).
@chaferraro
23 күн бұрын
I don't see gaming devs making ARM and x86 versions. Either the entire industry moves to ARM (meaning consoles) or the handheld dream won't be happening too soon.
@handsinthefire
23 күн бұрын
7:38 no what this means it two things. 1. People are not going to look for discords and such, which means shitty devs no longer have full control over their communities (which they shouldn't anyway). 2. They will have to engage with Steam's community more, and because of this if they ban someone for an absolutely terrible reason (asking why they decided to make something p2w for instance) on Steam, Steam can see it more easily and a person can lodge a complaint through steam support. (which I have done and I have gotten decisions reversed because of this)
@infinitivez
23 күн бұрын
If they're taking away the ability to post additional information on the Steam page, I hope they give the developer pages that ability. They're so bland as it is, and reaching a community outside of Steam is important, because sometimes the forums on Steam can be hostile and slow to reply. I can't count how many times a discord link saved me from frustration.
@todesziege
23 күн бұрын
I assume they will keep the dedicated links section the sidebar, and just disallow it in the description text.
@SaltSpirits
23 күн бұрын
There’s a sidebar where all of those links are supposed to go.
@HiUnidentified
21 күн бұрын
honestly if overhauling the reviews already they may go and attach an opt-in survey that has people rate games from 1-10 on different aspects like gameplay, story, replayability, graphics, sound/music etc... attach that average under the percentage rating and you have the perfect reflection of what people care about with the option to look further into the review commentary if theres a wonky point.
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
True, a thumbs up can be either 10/10 to 6/10. and a thumbs down can either be 5/10 to 0/10.
@GhostOfMJ-HeHe
23 күн бұрын
It begins with filtering out the "unhelpful reviews". Soon they'll start filtering out the negative ones.
@redpandah3309
23 күн бұрын
Developers dont have to do "Prologue" version of a game anymore, they can just add demo, which what those "prologues" were in the first place.
@_fawkes
23 күн бұрын
They had the choice to do demos. But few devs actually bother to do that. More so with AAA devs. They would rather the players pirate the game to try it out before buying instead of offering a completely legal demo.
@Baraz_Red
23 күн бұрын
And you can already filter Steam Reviews (using various criteria, like hours played) and they stated you will be able to filter to purposefully see the funny and less relevant reviews.
@hunn20004
23 күн бұрын
I like to read the first few negative reviews on anything I buy. If it's something i can live with, then even "Mostly negative" games could convince me to play them.
@hanscarlsson6583
18 күн бұрын
Yes, the negative reviews are very helpful in trying to figure out if you will enjoy a game. Some negatives are very important for me and stoppers, but some other things a lot of people hate, I do not care about.
@ThisisCitrus
23 күн бұрын
Its Twitter, not X.
@talfi
23 күн бұрын
YEHAHHHHHJ
@fuzzy-02
23 күн бұрын
Train an LLM to filter out useful and useless reviews. The LLM gives a % of how kuch it thinks it is useless review. 80% useless review is removes 50% is flagged for a review. Less is left with community votes to decide whether they surface or not. The useful and useless would be left for Valve to define for the LLM. What do you think? How would break that?
@Gosti85
23 күн бұрын
I would love if there would a middle option for the reviews. Having only positives or negative reviews makes it hard to really rate a game where you want to say "It´s okay, not awesome, but also not bad"
@todesziege
23 күн бұрын
Yeah. Most games aren't a clear "yes" or "no" but somewhere in-between. Numerical scores get a lot of flak for being reductive, but they are infinitely better than yes/no.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
It’s not positive or negative though, it’s would you recommend or not. Its a yes or no question
@Narangarath
23 күн бұрын
@@FaticusDolphinius Sometimes it's completely dependent on who is asking for the recommendation, though. A vast majority of games I've played are in that "recommend to some but not others due to XYZ" area for me. Like, I know my 65 y.o. dad wouldn't enjoy a survival horror and I know my husband would literally throw his computer through a window if I got him to play some complicated management style game. Or with too many keybinds to memorize.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
@@Narangarath well two things for that, one for example someone is not going to go into the reviews of a fighting game if they’re not interested in getting into a fighting game. No one is going to get confused by you saying you like survival horror on the Lethal Company Steam page. If your recommendation is even more niche then you have an entire review to explain why you recommend the game.
@freedustin
23 күн бұрын
Middle ground does exist tho, its the Steam Community! Go make a thread, watch it get trolled.
@DawnClark-wj9ix
23 күн бұрын
Gosh my two year old nintendo switch is just sitting in drawer. The games offered are just not what you can do with a PC. I see no value in it. Waste of money.
@gambitsheild9814
23 күн бұрын
Bet valve started taking the blackrock money...
@ravenshrike
23 күн бұрын
So does the off-steam link plan apply to all Steam store pages, including the Developer specific pages with all their information? Or just to individual game pages?
@Shroud66
23 күн бұрын
That update for the steam store page is absolutely awful. There are way too many indies that get no attention beyond word of mouth. Plus if you click on the developer link in the top right it can/will link you to the publisher instead. Not to mention some people buy a game because of the lead developer or studio and not because of the publisher. For, example if you clicked on a link for Meta Gear 5's developers it would direct you towards Metal Gear Survive instead of Death Stranding. Konami has no obligation to recommend a competitor/former cash cow but us the clientele deserves to have those links and easily access them. Otherwise we all have to Google basic information about the developers just because linking a website or discord is such a big issue 😩
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
Wait why would it link to Kojimas dev company? Metal gear 5 was developed by Konami so of course it would link to Konami.
@Shroud66
23 күн бұрын
@@FaticusDolphinius Correct but without Kojima no one cares. But putting that aside, my point in the matter is if you wanted to look up a director on IMDb, Wiki, whatever there is citation and a link to all their project. Steam for some unknown reason lacks that feature and doesn't even let you put their names in the search engine. Let alone bother to tell you names behind a game.
@FaticusDolphinius
23 күн бұрын
@@Shroud66 I mean you said it yourself, people are not going to want to list competition on their store page. I think this is something you’re just going to have to take an extra second to google.
@Shroud66
23 күн бұрын
@@FaticusDolphinius Indeed I and everyone else has been doing it for years. This was just a bit of wishful thinking about improving an outdated search engine rather than butchering it. Especially since studios close all the time and shut down their official sites. So good luck sourcing those games that for some reason aren't delisted 🤔
@tobyzilla
23 күн бұрын
@Shroud66 so basically you can't link your game to your own website wow if I was a game developer I would just not put my games on steam either put them on my website or a steam competitor that is not epic games store
@luigi9458
23 күн бұрын
funny how steam reviews change months after helldivers 2
@thagomizer8485
23 күн бұрын
I appreciate that Valve is putting the needs of the correct community first and foremost: the customers.
@zeddesnetos
21 күн бұрын
I dont like that they want to remove mention of other games on a storepage. I have found quite a few good games though such mentions, or found out that there is already a second part of a game. Sad to see that go.
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
I bet to any deity, they want to maximise splurge purchases or implulse buying. Starcraft 1 -- Oh this is a nice game **Buys** Oh wait! there's starcraft 2?, why didn't you tell me in the first place!
@VioletElite4
23 күн бұрын
On a sort of a side note, the demo for FF16 is out on Steam today, looks and runs great! I'm just glad I'll finally be able to play the game without dropping $500 on a white box from the wizard Sony
@Kags
17 күн бұрын
I'm good with steam cleaning up store pages so they aren't filled up with ads and links for other stuff. A games' store page should be devoted to that game, not other games. But I hope they still allow some sort of "More from this developer" button which then can redirect to a filtered list of their complete steam listings. I'm sure I'm not the only one who sometimes goes "wow this dev made a great game, let me check and see if they have more stuff!" and wants an easy way to navigate there. It's especially convenient to have that somewhere on the store page since i often forget company names (was that paradox inc? paradox studios? just paradox? etc) and checking the steam page for it is a quick and easy way to see developer and publisher details.
@Alice.59
23 күн бұрын
What we need is a better workshop and search function for comments
@undeadpresident
16 күн бұрын
I released a game on steam awhile back and there was one reviewer who clearly had not even read the system requirements and a couple others who either had not really even played the game or outright lied about it.
@tek_lynx4225
23 күн бұрын
Funny button isn't an award. The awards are the clowns, and other icons. The funny button was added after they stopped showing negative downvote counts. Long before the awards. People use it in place of the negative button since it shows up too. So Funny isn't actually considered funny but negative.
@Sw4lley
23 күн бұрын
For games from the Dev or Publisher that aren’t the one I am looking at, you can just click their name in the bio of the game and see everything. I wonder if the moderation policy is to comply with DSA/DMA, those should be hitting steam in 2025, right? With extensive moderation requirements and responsibilities for platforms and users of these platforms.
@MangaGamified
20 күн бұрын
and as usual they'll just think people are overreacting & will get used to it, and wait for 6 months to change anything or look at it again.
@triplebog
23 күн бұрын
Idk, I think memes still perform an important purpose for the end user. Theres no better way to get a litmous test on the general aura of a community than to get a peak into the memes that are upvoted as reviews. When games hit it big and become internet cultural phenomenon, you can see that on the user reviews. And then buying the game is made more exciting because I read all these goofy in world memes and stuff and then I feel like I'm becoming a member of the community and joining in on the cultural phenomenon.
@theodis8134
23 күн бұрын
But they tell me nothing useful about what they did or didn't like about the game so I have no way to judge whether or not it's for me.
@Herbertti3
7 күн бұрын
All in all excellent updates. Lord Gaben being god as usual. I only wish valve added pc specs to the reviews. "PERFORMANCE SUCCS" reviews are literally useless since everyone has different specs.
@obligatorysignin
23 күн бұрын
There's a clear economic incentive to suppress negative stories about products you get a cut of the sales from. Putting in place the mechanisms to execute that, whether it's part of the current editorial policy or not, is already not a good sign. Even if the current leadership does not give in to the temptation to do so, who is to say their successors will not? Amazon made that mistake way back when they were just a books site, and that was basically forever ago. Damn, the Reply Girls are out in force today.
@jordannutt2238
15 күн бұрын
yeah voting and review for demos will be awesome, i often include a few remarks of bug notices or QoL requests when i review newer games, and more harshly sometimes for VERY old games with development still active, where I find 5 year old posts requesting some type of very good change
@DePhoegonIsle
23 күн бұрын
Ya know... I'm confused by the half-assed soft support for the verge reviewers. They not only violated the notice which required them to hit escape 'dismissing' the pop up (which is not a win like you think it is), but they did so in bad faith and purposefully violated the right of first publication in IP law of valve software. 1. Why Dismissing a pop-up isn't the win you think it is. - Dismissing =/= Not Agreeing, It is not the same thing as saying 'I do not agree'. This is why you contracts have you explicitly use unambiguous language or mark a spot with unambiguous language. -- This means that by continuing on, you need not 'click I agree' or sign something when the reasonable intent of a reasonable person is to agree to the proposed contract. This is also weighed by what the contract is & what is asked and given that the 'ask' of not sharing audio/video of the unreleased game is such a low bar that the law would side with valve for it being reasonable to assume 'dismissing' the message is a valid agreement method as well. -- It also does not help that the response from the 'game reviewers' prove they did so in utter bad faith. 2. Why the Fuck would you attack valve like this? - They violated TOS (Valvesoftware) Obligations, about not breaking IP law [which only adds extra FU because it was valves IP that was violated] by purposefully in bad faith releasing unreleased content that was under the 'do not share this content' box. - This violates Steams EULA and opens 9c-b to be used against them, forfeiting all 'value of the account' including purchases & steam balance, with a banned account. -- This is the same level of stupid you play around with if you charge back valve on your CC/DC, without any mediation or attempts to be civil with them. 3. All you do by supporting the shitheads at verge is tell valve they will need to be unreasonable strict and perhaps even anti-player when it comes to new projects, and enforce a meaner NDA to get peoples opinions. Seriously, You are becoming the reasons we hate journalists. Bad faith actors that will actively fuck over others to get the rage bait, and do nothing but make it necessary for companies to be a pain in the ass even when they are sharing upcoming things, and even when fishing for feedback. Fucking moron.
@ProfSplendorFaction
23 күн бұрын
Bigger issue, when are they going to address the issue with the Community Market being almost unusable
@pcallycat9043
23 күн бұрын
I look forward to your ‘arm’ experience on handhelds lol. Imagine trying to run x86 code worth a damn over emulation on a handheld processor and thinking you’re having a better experience than native (or the fact that arm and x86 leapfrog each other in everything except batter bench marks, simply cuz arm sleeps better). The biggest thing that will always hold arm back is the lack of commoditization on the desktop (can’t just socket a new one) and the fact that from a home user standpoint, there’s 50 years of software that people don’t want to replace or learn to run on an emulator
@JmbFountain
23 күн бұрын
There are plenty of socketed ARM CPUs out there
@pcallycat9043
22 күн бұрын
@@JmbFountain of course. Slide on down to your nearest computer store and buy them though. Won't find any within 300 miles of where I live, I've looked.
@JmbFountain
22 күн бұрын
@@pcallycat9043 there is a company that sells ampere altra worstations well within that radius from me.
@rabbibaby
23 күн бұрын
Valve ARE? Not Valve IS?
@ambrant7422
23 күн бұрын
In American English, "to be" is conjugated in its singular form (is) British English conjugates it in plural form (are).
@sig9779
23 күн бұрын
A difference between British and American english
@joelhodoborgas
23 күн бұрын
@@ambrant7422 Thanks for that explanation.
@HS-ze4yw
23 күн бұрын
Couldn't care less if they hide the pointless ASCII reviews, but knowing them it's just an excuse to hide anything containing keywords as per the state of YT comments these days. How about they go and do something useful, and fix it so that we can actually read all the reviews for DLC instead; it's been broken since forever.
@Woecaller
23 күн бұрын
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@Thor0510
23 күн бұрын
Reverse psychology I see.
@misterepf
23 күн бұрын
I hate to break it to you, but you failed.
@Rift2123
23 күн бұрын
27 sheeple have viewed so far
@doyouknoedawae
23 күн бұрын
Dumb you lied 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mitkoogrozev
23 күн бұрын
I think you meant "this comment will not receive more than ten likes after it reaches 50."
@fsbayer
19 күн бұрын
The changes to the store pages are utterly deranged. I can't imagine why even a single user would have a problem with store pages linking to other games or external pages. Utterly deranged.
@BastionBuxBalthazar
19 күн бұрын
Deadlock is so tightly balanced and the core is so brilliantly designed it is unreal
@qy9MC
19 күн бұрын
My sole reason for avoiding steam is the uglyness, finally it's getting fixed.
@Antillles
23 күн бұрын
I understand the intention, but I turned off the review moderation immediately.
@andonbailey9656
20 күн бұрын
It's unfortunate to hear about the store page changes. I really liked the cross marketing. Steam reminds me of that warehouse scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, only in digital format. It's really easy of games to get lost and forgotten about and the cross marketing helps bring more games to players attention.
@GeeHawtTea
22 күн бұрын
valve becoming microsoft, a nightmare we all were afraid of, be ready for karens to take over the company
@Skullbushi
19 күн бұрын
This is such a double edged sword, whenever I hear these type of policing updates that takes away the power of the user and gives it to an algorithm there's always something about them that seems so fishy as it can be easily abused by corpos, I personally think the review system is in a pretty good state atm tho there is definitely some stuff they could improve like maybe have reviews that have been edited after a long time since they have been posted reappear as new. But what they should really address is the clearly flawed reward system, I think it's fine as it is for reviews as it incentivises better reviews and any really stupid reviews can just be downvoted and they'll eventually get hidden, but there's so much "bait" nowadays in forums it really ruins the community, you'll often have users that don't even own the game post the most controversial stuff because they are fishing for clown emotes, which for those who do not know give the user points to spend on Steam's point shop to buy profile customisation like avatars, stickers and backgrounds. In my opinion they should just remove the ability to receive points from forum posts.
@Betonoszlop
23 күн бұрын
I dont think i know why this change was necessary. The old system just worked well
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