"Today, it's a bump in the road, but back then, it was the road itself." Dude.
@3seven5seven1nine9
5 жыл бұрын
I can read these quotes exactly in his beautiful voice before he even says them
@danielfinlayson8127
7 жыл бұрын
I remember being like 'yo what's an instance' and trying to whack stuff with my staff as a hunter. The best thing about it was making mistakes and not knowing what to do. It defined you as a player and everyone else. You looked up to players who were higher level and admired their achievement. You also had an innane longing to explore the unknown, wander into the cave, dive into the sea and try your chances against a certain mob. Now you know your class, what they can do, their limits, where everthing is, how to get stuff and all the rest. While this is great, the true magic lies in the unknown.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
One of you out there suggested that I talk about vanilla leveling. I thought it was a good idea so here's a whole video about it! Hope you enjoy. Feel free to add anything I left out.
@Ragetiger1
7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I remember those days, where it took a week or longer just to gain a single level. It was fun and challenging. Only other thing to bring up was the challenge that crafting brought to the table. I am glad that I still have most of those forgotten and removed crafted pieces.
@illidin23
7 жыл бұрын
don't forget the 40 troll ears in strangle thorn vale (vanilla version)
@doppelganger9254
7 жыл бұрын
I started my WoW Journey in Legion, but your videos of Vanilla and later expansions are very interesting. Looking forward for more, epic job MadSeason!
@patrickjohansen3552
7 жыл бұрын
plz do some more this is so good to see how it was back in vanilla. i miss it
@frenchcurse7287
7 жыл бұрын
I love how u bring my mind back 12 years ago :P ur 100% right .Keep going we all love ur videos .I dont understand that 2 dislike i believe they never play Vanilla
@gamesux420
7 жыл бұрын
Vanilla leveling was a pain, but i have to say, it was the most fun pain anyone has ever had.
@Lord_Deimos
7 жыл бұрын
Me and a buddy (whom i've met through WoW and we're still friends after 13 years) used to ''park'' our mains in whatever area we were leveling. Each time some higher level scum ganked us we would log back into our high geared 60's and gank them back for hours on end. Fun times.
@GermanBoy00
7 жыл бұрын
yeah, I loved to do that aswell. Nothing more fun than a sweet revenge!
@Ryan-tc2el
7 жыл бұрын
Seemed like Horde had much easier access to instances. Other than Deadmines, though, which is probably one of the best instances in the game. Even Gnomeragan could be accessed via teleporter from the goblin town in STV. Never did run Stockade, but never wanted to either.
@Nyequiloooo
6 жыл бұрын
I'd park my main similarly so when someone got on their main to gank me, I'd get on my main to return the favor. Careful what you wish for ;D
@tremedar
6 жыл бұрын
Horde had easier everything. For Alliance to go from the EK to Kalimdor you had to run through the wetlands, a contested zone, take the boat from Menethil, while horde just hop on a zeppelin inside horde territory, just outside UC.
@SpearTheSeas
6 жыл бұрын
DONT MAKE ME GET MY MAIN Cx good times 💔
@Naraes99
7 жыл бұрын
My first character started out in Mulgore and I remember- when quests that didn't show you where to go- made my character an incredible fun challenge with 1 road (going from Thunderbluff to The Barrens). All the mobs were scattered about making it hard to get around without pulling some of that aggro. Ah, good times. The Barrens (crossroads specifically) will always be a good part of my vanilla memories. Lots of players, and annoying quests when it came to the centaurs or the pigmen aggro. I would always find a set of people trying to sit on the mountains to pull since, back then, it was difficult to just dive right in. For my Horde characters, I always found The Barrens to be my safe-haven for quests.
@sgrovetown4777
7 жыл бұрын
Great video - brought back all sorts of memories. Like leveling a pally. Would start a fight, go cook dinner, come back and loot.
@GermanBoy00
7 жыл бұрын
hahahaha ikr
@Xylos144
7 жыл бұрын
Leveling Prot Paladins was so much fun. Gather as many mobs as you can. Let them kill themselves as they bash themselves on your shield spike and auras and blessings. Want to kill them faster? use righteousness. Need to regain health? Use seal of light. Wonderful times.
@avargs3505
7 жыл бұрын
any of you Pallys ever remember watching the "Dernos goes PvP" KZitem video...that almost made me want to re-roll a pally myself..still holds up to this day.
@benjaminedenfield3368
7 жыл бұрын
O god those Crocodiles in the entrance of the Wetlands from Dun Morough!
@babysnaps3217
7 жыл бұрын
Getting from Darnassus to Stormwind/Ironforge, you had go to Menethil Harbor then hoof it for an hour. I feel your pain.
@benjaminedenfield3368
7 жыл бұрын
The wife and I moved from EQ so we could level together. How many times did I have to jump to the rescue cause she said "O a herb!", which happened to be at the feet of a mob lol!
@Murdokk00
7 жыл бұрын
it was every bit of an hour for sure. More depending on your luck with the croc pathing.
@avargs3505
7 жыл бұрын
playing in a PvP server...what about that crowded walk to anything UBRS/LBRS/molten core, etc... feelsgood to have rolled a NE druid.
@terranceroff8113
7 жыл бұрын
EEEK! yea, i remember them.. in vanilla wow on a PvP server the mobs were every bit as bad as the players.. how many of you remember charging into a mass of mobs just so the opposing faction player would get killed too!// they who got back to their body first wins!
@thefrostwolf9085
6 жыл бұрын
I'm super hyped for Vanilla. However, I never played Vanilla per se. I joined at the end of BC which still had a lot of the vanilla aspects. Leveling still took forever, and I remember racing my brother when leveling. There was no LFG and dungeons such as wailing caverns and sunken temple took forever to navigate and complete. My first main character was a shaman (whom I still play today), and I remember going elem/resto. I miss that talent system. My probably fondest memory is one of two times. 1. My first time in Ogrimmar. I needed to set my hearth point to the major city and so I asked a guard. " The Second hut on the right." So, I set my hearth went on with my quests, and then next thing I know, skeleton dragons were attacking the city with giant weird three armed things with meat hooks and their guts falling out of their stomach. I got in one of the towers, I had a gun (was playing a warrior) and I start trying to shoot them down. That warrior is still level 14. 2. Getting the Leeroy achievement. My dad's friend and co-worker, the one who got him into WoW that got us into WoW, decided to help us out and get us a title. So, we navigated the dungeon and found the room with the whelps. Then we spent maybe a good 30 mins trying it and finally got it done. now, the ach is so easy to get. At least I have to original ach to show off.
@Minimeister317
6 жыл бұрын
I loved how back in vanilla the journey ahead of you was the amazing part and not just the endgame content. In retail it is all about the end game.
@bigbobam8857
7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't there in Vanilla, but i was there just after BC was released and i remember all of this. The empty pockets, the no money, no gear. The slow moving, the only pulling 1 mob at a time. I felt it all. It was a long, arduous grind.
@jameskelsey3759
6 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Brought back some fond memories. I still remember the time my roommate and I ran that one dungeon and ended up making friendships that lasted for years. I haven't had anything anywhere near that in a long time. That's why I'm so chatty when I'm in groups... We used to have to be!
@andrewlawrence4782
7 жыл бұрын
I have really enjoyed all your work here on KZitem. Keep it up MadSeason!
@QCreyton
7 жыл бұрын
My god the nostalgia! If this came back I'd return to the game in a heartbeat!
@Fraczon92_games
7 жыл бұрын
oh how I love the levelling, and discovering all the little bits and pieces of lore disseminated around the world
@payde2591
7 жыл бұрын
I have a whole new respect for vellina players your pain goes unnoticed.
@Beanjuice
7 жыл бұрын
I honestly got to experience a watered down version of vanilla leveling having started in TBC and even now despite all the convenient features in WoW I crave for that raw MMO-experience that UO and EQ players talk about from time to time. This is why I'm really looking forward to Pantheon Rise of the Fallen...hopefully it lets me experience what many people experienced back in the golden years of MMO's.
@foxdropLoL
7 жыл бұрын
I love your vids dude
@ithadtobeaname7327
3 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec...what are you doing here O.O I am 3 years too late but seriously Big Fan
@mastergenie19
6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Blizzard's classic servers! I started mid Wrath and I remember how easy it was even then to get killed by mobs around the Fargodeep mine if you didn't know what you were doing. And that Gath''zogg quest... It took a long time, many deaths, and multiple people before we finally killed it, but it was oh so rewarding.
@Drakken737
7 жыл бұрын
I remember my druid when I firsr started in vanilla. I miss the class specific quests...like when I had to quest to get the bear for or even swim form. Not to mention flight form and so on. It made me truly dive in and feel the RPG as a druid. I was so excited when I got my travel cheetah form to run just a little bit faster. The hard quests and leveling made the rewards even minor 1000x more satisfying.
@supersolenoid
4 жыл бұрын
A long leveling process makes sense if A) it is done on one character only, with which you unfold the story of the game and unlock its systems or if B) it rewards a paced playthrough in some way, i.e. allowing you to prepare for endgame. Vanilla did have some of (B) - storytelling was really broken and messy - but it all went down the toiltet with following expansions when players were just encouraged to cap levels ASAP in order to start the endgame. The funny thing is that when Classic was released all the #nochanges people rushed to level 60 so fast that I believe they could hear lingering echoes of themselves saying that vanilla was such a good game because leveling was hard, slow and thus it felt earned...
@Ansi1709
7 жыл бұрын
I do miss my long walks to Gnomeregan.... and then i learned about the horde teleporter!
@Caady
7 жыл бұрын
3:57 Raptor's heart droprate was low? Man, I can remember Barrens.... Zhevra hooves and the Plainstrider beaks Damn that was a PITA! Or Helcular's rod in Hillsbrad (200 Yetis and no rod!) Great series mate! Cheers up
@Tyranzor64
7 жыл бұрын
Dungeons and Raids have always been "hey tank" or "need dot clear healer" it was often quicker than their name and no one really minded. Outside of dungeons the player name was used. Inside it made for faster communication.
@thedoomdog
6 жыл бұрын
I miss actually having to go to your class trainer. And not only that but being so broke that you had to decide what you wanted to level and what could wait till later in terms of abilities. I was a priest, god was that a uphill trek.
@ujembi155
7 жыл бұрын
So much of this is subjective; I think that Wrath felt like the "right" amount of time to level up a toon. It took a while, but not too time consuming. I can't say I care for having to eat/drink every few mobs so I am glad that is gone, but I certainly miss things being challenging when leveling. It is a problem if you can go from lvl 1 to cap and never worry about dying. BOA gear really hurt this aspect of the game; I don't mind the xp increase once you get a toon to max level, but I hate how the stats they bring trivializes all content and makes dungeons a zerg chain pull (it takes no coordination). It also messed up bgs at least pre legion and ensured new players could not participate. Some might disagree, but I actually kind of liked the LFG for dungeons. Being able to queue for that or bgs while leveling meant I didn't get bored easily. I do wish heroic dungeons were not able to be queued for and pug'd and had a greater difficulty. I did not care for LFR, and sadly haven't raided much to this day since its release. I do think Wrath had accessible content without needing LFR (which has no challenge at all). I also liked in Wrath how there was lots of quick, single boss raids. I don't think the term "casual" should equate to low difficulty, but rather a measure of time investment. I really hated buying spells though, and did enjoy the change in Cata where at lvl 10 you got a neat ability or passive that made you feel unique. That part beat putting a point into reducing cast time of one spell by 0.1 sec. It was also nice to not have to wait until lvl 50 or higher to get very basic tools a particular spec relied on. I do think the MoP talent trees often added better choices, but the old talent trees offered a very clear (if small) reward for every level gained that felt very satisfying. Leveling does not feel as rewarding without it, oddly enough. I did like the addition of flight paths and graveyards that came with Cata, but around that time was when the pace of leveling got out of hand... to where you could only finish a few quests and had to move to a new zone. I wish they could use their scaling system from legion to gate content by level, but allow older content to scale so that you could finish a zone if you want. This way, you could level two different characters and not do any of the same quests. After all, WoW has a ton of content that at any given time most people are not using. All of this is subjective, and there is no right or wrong answer. I do think though, IMO, that Wrath walked the tightrope the best between "casual" vs "hardcore" (time investment) and providing varying difficulties of content that seemed to work for most of the community. Feel free to tell me where your opinion differs though.
@Geist1337
7 жыл бұрын
Healing at least at the lower levels, in a dungeon, for vanilla, was a bit absurd. I'd heal my party members just enough to keep them alive and leave at the least half the 'healing' they received to out-of-combat regen and I'd STILL have to stop and take a drink between dungeon packs. After minimizing mana spent as much as I could handle.
@OfficialXAntiDote
7 жыл бұрын
All the frustrating parts from the game in vanilla that are banned from the game nowadays. Were the things that made the game so addicting and real. I remember that i used to pick up everything from the mobs just to get a little more silver to buy that one sword from the vendor that looked so dope. 😞
@guinto7609
6 жыл бұрын
I played vanilla.. and I LOVED IT. The community was amazing, so i dont know how people will react when vanilla comes out. I hope people are prepared for Vanilla....Some never played it and experienced it... be prepared. Heres a free hint. Stock up on food and water ;)
@ir0n2541
5 жыл бұрын
As a mage i used to hang out in Ironforge and sell portals for 50g, i'd make a fair amount of money in a couple of hours on a busy server.
@malicant123
7 жыл бұрын
Hitting level 60 in vanilla felt like a great achievement. It took me about four months for a warrior
@sladekf6640
7 жыл бұрын
Great video. A shame Blizz won't let us play both. As you said both sides of the aisle have their pros and cons.
@mreboric2215
4 жыл бұрын
ahhh the good old days of being poisoned at lv 5 and realizing that they may as well have cast death on you. And of course the murlock trains in the fields. Good times
@sdlausen1
6 жыл бұрын
*God... I remember how long it took just to make ONE GOLD! If you had 10 gold, you were rich. Those were the memories.*
@filthygaming265
7 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately never got to experience vanilla, did not even have internet until mid-2007. Then I had to save up for a computer that could handle WoW, until that point. I played Runescape since it was f2p. I started in early August of 2008. But I just say I started in wrath, since it sounds better than "I started at the tail end of TBC." or. "I started in TBC" I absolutely miss when I was a noob. It took me two months to figure out how to get from orgrimmar to undercity, then another month to figure out how to leave the blood elf starting area once I finished ghostlands. I finally figured out how to whisper people at that point and asked if someone could show me how to get around. But I will say, While I do miss the pre-cata leveling. that is the thing. The revamped leveling zones suck. Also, I will never forgive Blizzard for flooding my favorite leveling zone and destroying the part of another zone that was my favorite to do quests(Tanaris and the wastewander quests). Since then, I hate leveling, and I want to get it over with until I hit Pandaria and WoD, which I actually enjoy. But everything else. Blech.
@Psilocybin77
Жыл бұрын
This was like visiting with an old friend.
@Asrael5125
6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, man! Do you have a playlist or something for the songs you used in your videos? I know you often use the WoW Soundtrack but often times something else.
@SaA-cu7lw
5 жыл бұрын
social environment made vanilla epic...no matter how long u play u never get bored is always crowded full of people everywhere .... and playing in a specific server with same people u see everyday made it even more fun ... man u even start to memorise alliance players and take revenge on them once u spot them cuz they ganked u 3 weeks back lol
@scientistforscience
7 жыл бұрын
My guild used to have "Quest Night" so we could complete quests in Burning Crusade.
@SuperZekethefreak
7 жыл бұрын
I ran a Guild of 1000 players from around the world back when you had to beg your guildies to donate for guild repairs. What a pain in the ass! I made friends with the Chinese Gold Farmers and crossed my fingers that my toon or account or Guild Bank weren't going to be ripped off. If you wanted a robust Guild you had to have all of the bank tabs open, which were expensive, and you had to populate them with purples, consumables, pets and other baubles which made the Guild want to *level up to whatever ranks of Officers you created. It was all of lot of political expensive bullshit until they changed the Guild structure and added perks like Cash Flow.
@Sreti
4 жыл бұрын
Watching this while getting boosted through SM FeelsGoodMan
@Warwipf
5 жыл бұрын
3:58 nah, THE worst quest was getting those fucking murloc heads in hillsbrad foothills. jesus christ.
@immagonko4261
Жыл бұрын
Haha, true that
@EvilSt0ner
6 жыл бұрын
My heart skipped a beat when Stanglethorn popped up
@EvilSt0ner
6 жыл бұрын
bye the time i got to lvl 60 burning crusade came out an i had to reach 70 was leveling a rogue an mage at the same time.
@sage552
6 жыл бұрын
I've only really played up to level 25 and everything you have described is the exact experience I had. Multiple mobs were often too much, questing was slow and I stopped to eat and drink after every major fight. 5 gold was a lot of money to me. After that, I just got a level 100 character and tried Legion, which is just amazing. I did some of the old expansion content too like Panderia and WoD. I have to say, my experience was definitely better in Legion, I think the WoW community is just blinded by nostalgia
@markup6394
Жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, its five years old, still... Putting more emphasis on leveling can be a good thing, IF the time spend feels rewarding and not like a chore. If it feels like you're playing the game already, and not when you hit level-cap.
@Onlytheclouds
6 жыл бұрын
Classic donkey Kong music in the background nice touch lol
@poppeman2
7 жыл бұрын
i miss this so much!
@theundaunt
7 жыл бұрын
The warrior...recklessness +retaliation combo clear half a zone in 5 seconds
@gishathosaurus6828
5 жыл бұрын
One simple word...IMMERSION!
@nielsen145
6 жыл бұрын
brings back memories :), i remember when you had to be 40 to get your first mount xD
@Mixwell1983
5 жыл бұрын
Thottbot was a huge help before quest tracking in wow
@DevilHunterDanteNero
6 жыл бұрын
How about class quests? Getting totems for shamans, or cat form for druids, that was quite something to do...
@sarttee
6 жыл бұрын
i remember spending most of my money of white quality weapons from vendors and having to craft my own gear, A.H prices were too high... wasn't paying 3 gold for a full set of gear lol
@KNByam
7 жыл бұрын
This is what wow should be. You made friends leveling. Now you don't even need a guild.
@C0mm0nS3ns3
6 жыл бұрын
Btw there were over 6000 quests in WOW vanillla and i leveled by questing alone and still had more to do .
@WillSwitch2
7 жыл бұрын
I miss the old days.
@RapiDEraZeR
6 жыл бұрын
i love every aspect of this. this was the shit
@moonabys
7 жыл бұрын
my very 1st char took me bout 6 months to lvl 60. since i had no clue and i was still in the aww effect on everything i encountered.
@leramar
2 жыл бұрын
As annoying as it was, actually having to find other people and then travel to a dungeon made it so much more exciting. It was like you were on an adventure.
@jrich749
7 жыл бұрын
Vanilla Tichondrius ftw!
@daladari3469
6 жыл бұрын
I liked the forced interactions. Made it feel real.
@eurosonly
5 жыл бұрын
Vanilla wow: an inconvenient and hellish experience only made bearable by the social interaction of complete strangers throughout your travels and in between dying.
@immagonko4261
Жыл бұрын
You played warrior, didn't you?
@finden187
7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@warrcoww6717
4 жыл бұрын
Wailing Caverns was the most confusing dungeon man
@Immagonko
4 жыл бұрын
Brd?
@andregon4366
6 жыл бұрын
5:09 Actually that's not 100% true. While an area didn't have enough quests for you to lvl up all the way to the next area, there were several areas of the same lvl range. The point was for the players to travel the world not stick to a few areas. And when you combine all 20-30 areas you'll see that there aren't only enough quests, there are more than needed.
@sleazysid253
7 жыл бұрын
When you actually had to LOOK FOR GROUP.
@alexreilly6121
5 жыл бұрын
My /slash played for 60, which I HAD TO even with titan at the top there, was over 19 days. Was late 59 and a 60 lock mate invited my ud warr main to Tyr's Hand...I was like nooo elites i'll die[total noob i was, i knew smeg all about real tanking so was always my madeup dps spec and only looked into def stance after the Q for it...Was like nope this is well slower and half my stuff seems unusable..Went prot at start of tbc and never looked back ;p]..Luckily his dps and healthstones made us do ok and I dinged right there after maybe 20 mins...was stoked as f00k ofc, kinda like my first shag in that regard, big dumb grin on my face for days lol PS BS/Repairs on my warr were a caveat. Cos yknow, warrior, I was always skint on him cos of repair bills and making bandages/gettin food. I always assumed that as a BS I'd be able to repair my own gear on top of making it, but noooo. In a land of such raptor magic you mentioned, even repairing your/others' gear IS JUST TOO MUCH! YOU'RE TALKING NONSENSE HOW DARE YOU?!
@TheCylom
7 жыл бұрын
I remember a friend of mine found some random grey stuff and sold them on the AH and made A TOTAL OF 1 FUCKING GOLD AT LEVEL 10. Meanwhile the rest of the group had a total of 2 silver.
@justpassingby8495
7 жыл бұрын
What was leveling in vanilla like? I can answer that too.. HELL! still managed to lvl rogue and mage to 60.. Those glorious days when u couldnt even solo rare mobs at lower levels.
@smithers4420
5 жыл бұрын
First time around i completely ignored professions until I was level 60 lol, could have made it so much easier for myself
@jon4715
5 жыл бұрын
This is why Vanilla was better than current.
@Coops021
7 жыл бұрын
First mount at level 40, if you could afford it. I think it was 90 Gold!!
@dejobos
6 жыл бұрын
Im trying to find the first lvling video. This is episode 11 and where is episode 1?
@ikitclaw3299
7 жыл бұрын
i remember getting 6 gold and feeling like the sultan of brunei
@SpaceElvisInc
7 жыл бұрын
when I started in wraith my Cousin gave me 10 gold felt like a king until I wasted it all on dumb shit
@chukky1124
7 жыл бұрын
your not the only one ... xD i started in vanilla but when i recieved gold i went to the auction house and buy stupid shit because it was green xD ... or spending to much on fiery weapon ... why ? because shiny weapons xD
@ikitclaw3299
7 жыл бұрын
I spent my gold tipping a "chick" standing on the postbox in orgrimmar, "will strip for gold"
@krisumusic
7 жыл бұрын
A lvl 60 priest gave me 100 gold in Vanilla to buy mount and stuff when I reached lvl 40. That's probably worth something like a few million gold now :O
@KNByam
7 жыл бұрын
Dave Glasgow 6 gold went a long way with repairs and buying food.
@forsensmotd6795
7 жыл бұрын
Repairing my gear as a warrior was my biggest problem, I was poor af...
@PaulieVideos
7 жыл бұрын
forsenE
@forsensmotd6795
7 жыл бұрын
forsenD
@plummet3860
7 жыл бұрын
This is why i wish they had added the ability to repair your gear at a reduced price for blacksmiths
@NeuroEnjoyer69
7 жыл бұрын
forsenPuke
@27Zangle
7 жыл бұрын
I remember logging in 2 hours before raids to prepare food on my mage.
@MrKERRtastrophy
6 жыл бұрын
"Miss, miss, miss, miss, dodge, miss miss, glancing, miss parry." - Every rogue/warrior's scrolling battle text
@Klimbo93
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, warlock perma fearing and dotting the biggest giant out there, in the shards of myzrael quest line, arathi highlands 🙆
@CaptainOvious123
7 жыл бұрын
I love this series so much, the effort you put into these videos is incredible
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! Thank you for watching them =)
@nesano4735
7 жыл бұрын
This guy's probably doing it from memory too, like a true seasoned veteran.
@digitaldragonborn
7 жыл бұрын
The memories that this invokes like collecting wool etc for the war effort prior to the opening of the gates of Ahn'Qiraj , not being able to afford the mount till level 60 and tuning to the Molten Core. OMG the hours of my life I gave and still give to this dam game.
@rafaeld.simard2166
6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree!
@poulthomas469
3 жыл бұрын
This video really makes you realize just how different the modern game is compared to the release. One aspect you didn't cover was how the longer leveling really forced you to learn your class. That was a huge side effect of spending all that time on one character.
@seeker296
Жыл бұрын
characters are pretty simple tho in wow. you dont really need much time
@FantasyYeet
9 ай бұрын
@@seeker296now that we are older and theres tons of stuff out sure. Had you played back then in 2000s you would know. Wow was so new. No youtube. No addons. No wowhead. Nothing. Just forums. Some of us were lucky to play it in its prime. Sure it seems simple now, but back then, it was something else.
@ikitclaw3299
7 жыл бұрын
carrot on a stick for mount speed boost
@frenchcurse7287
7 жыл бұрын
woot :P +1
@Reinome864
7 жыл бұрын
Gahrzilla and you need to have that damn Hammer to gong that bell. Good Times man
@FoolFlixTV
7 жыл бұрын
Took me so long to find someone in chat that had the fucking hammer just so I could have 3% mount speed bonus 😭😭😭 ran ZF too many times
@josemanuelrau8010
7 жыл бұрын
3% faster than everyone without it dude!
@falrak3
7 жыл бұрын
Too bad that Crusader Aura hadn't been implemented in Vanilla.
@travelingbard1
5 жыл бұрын
The idea of actually having to read quests to figure out what to do is huge. It made it so that I was invested more in what I was doing & I feel like it was more immersive overall. It's slow leveling but like the video says, it was an experience & even a feature of the game instead of just this mindless thing that you have to do in order to "play the game". I'm looking forward to playing Classic when it comes out. Thanks for making these videos.
@kernowbtc7956
3 жыл бұрын
all good players used some addons. i mean those clearing content. Ofc addons were harder to obtain back then though
@travelingbard1
Жыл бұрын
@Ben Anthony it was good. Got to 60 on a shaman, raided MC & Onyxia, and called it. Nice few months of gaming.
@ujustgotpwnd3454
7 жыл бұрын
Bear kill quests were, and still to this day are, the worst.. Bears never drop their organs or appendages
@mmelkilany
7 жыл бұрын
Ujustgotpwnd yeah. lol
@MoffittArts
6 жыл бұрын
It's apparently hard to collect bear asses
@saintupid7034
5 жыл бұрын
thats goretusk in westfall
@Blackadder75
5 ай бұрын
they drop a lot of organs, but never the ones you need..
@Kurogami7070
7 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider, quest targets could have REALLY long respawns (sometimes 10 or more minutes for a named enemy, and even more if they were an elite). A good way to experience what vanilla leveling was like, is to take a character to level in Silithus. It somehow got left alone during the cata revamp, and is a museum for the antique wow experience. I remember leveling my paladin, who had so few attack skills that it was mostly just an auto attack bot. Took consecration just so that I had an additional button to hit, outside of judgement and refreshing my Seal, lol.
@Collector2006
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah before the skill revamp paladins had no damaging abilities. It was blizzards answer to them being a melee who could also cast heals. They considered a warrior who can cast flash of light or holy light was too op. (which at the time, considering how hard it was to deal with mobs, it would have been)
@GermanBoy00
7 жыл бұрын
yeah remember that hunter quests in STV? the elites needed at least 30minutes to respawn, I believe that elite ogre in the cave even 1h. If you wiped or fucked up the tag, you would wait for another hour lol. Meanwhile you would just be overrun by the enemy faction multiple times... fun times lel.
@christianweibrecht6555
7 жыл бұрын
Kurogami7070 when I went to silithus on Elysium I encountered one guy who was grinding and everyone else was a bot framer
@Kurogami7070
7 жыл бұрын
The self healing was quite handy for the most part, but the pushback mechanic was pretty frustrating. Wasn't limited to the first 2 hits and added about a second to the cast time on spells. Flash of light was also a fairly small heal at the time, only doing about 400ish without healing power at the max rank. While it was considerably easier to get off, even non-elites at that level could take about the same amount off in the time it took you to cast it. That being said... Divine Protection essentially had a 1 minute cooldown, so you could easily get off a holy light or two, and completely heal. So... you're right. Mostly because bubbles were great :P
@Kurogami7070
7 жыл бұрын
Christian Weibrcht haha, probably for the same reason it didnt get a rework... It was an awful area (and still is!!) Though the twilight hammer enemies did have pretty good drops if I recall correctly.
@mistercochella1044
5 жыл бұрын
4:00 as to why they didn't have hearts ("should be a 100% drop") whenever I have had cases like this in RPGs I like to imagine you didn't loot a heart because you destroyed it. Possible right?
@DJscratchpiggy
4 жыл бұрын
That was always my thought. Like the body isnt going to be in perfect condition when i smashi it with a giant hammer or explode it with a fireball.
@abrvalg321
2 жыл бұрын
@@DJscratchpiggy Sometimes it is addressed like, you need pristine teeth or similar things but most of the time it's just a time sink that masks how many mobs designers want you to kill. Let's say they want you to kill 40 but that'd be too much to show, so instead it's 10 drops with 25% chance.
@johnisdead
Ай бұрын
I always thought the same; my character always ruined the item in battle with a weapon attack or spell 😂
@thomasa4747
7 жыл бұрын
Can you just like read me books, I just want to listen to you talk.
@skroot7975
7 жыл бұрын
this ^
@rockdesu
6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@nameofthegame9664
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking the same exact thing. He could make serious money recording audio books.
@tomk8312
4 жыл бұрын
i haven't played in years so i keep saying "wow, it's NOT like that anymore??" lol. leveling being harder is definitely better - you appreciate something a lot more when you worked hard for it.
@adamleckius2253
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my feeling. Everything that made WoW vanilla such a great experience... they basically removed all of them?! I'm not usually an old geezer, but in this case things sure were better in the past. Well, glad I/we got to experience it :)
@andromidius
3 жыл бұрын
The first time its fine. But when levelling alts... Ooof, it could go on forever sometimes. Then again, there was something to be said about having just one character and not a full character list full of max level alts who exist purely to funnel gold and resources to your main.
@inhocsignovinces1419
3 жыл бұрын
On our PvP server, Vanilla leveling was daunting. We were compelled to level in groups to avoid near constant corpse runs resulting from PvP. Guilds would literally respond en masse when their levelers were corpse camped/they were requested to help clear the area. Open field PvP would break out between entire guilds and in the higher level zones (BRD, Western and Eastern Plaguelands, Un’Goro Crater, and even the goblin towns of Booty Bay/STV and Gadgetzan) large scale PvP between several guilds/nearly the entire server population) often broke out. We actually managed to crash our server due to the population gathering. Truly, I’m surprised MadSeason failed to account for the leveling delay found on PvP servers. This leveling delay made PvP server leveling an experience in and of itself.
@MrSnuggleLP
7 жыл бұрын
For me a MMO is not only the endgame.. Its the road that lies ahead of you. The mystery of not knowing whats out there in the World. Meeting new people & Socialising with them - exploring and defeating difficult quest / dungones, leveling your character. Make him stronger and getting attached to him. The endgame is something that you didn't even know existed. You didn't play because you wanted to raid, you played because you had fun. I don't know how to feel about the current state of the game. I really love Legion with its gameplay and content. But sometimes I really wish I could go back in time, not knowing what the hell a raid is and experiencing beeing a noob again.
@GermanBoy00
7 жыл бұрын
WORD! Very well expressed! Ty sir.
@avargs3505
7 жыл бұрын
I remember playing druid and losing to my RL friend outside IF because I didn't realize that any of my forms(cat,bear...) could not be put under the succubus' sleep...to my surprise, this made it in his WoW montage video and we all got a kick out of it.
@user-Marrk
7 жыл бұрын
I hate being treat as some important figure leading my class, I want to be an adventurer helping the heroes! Whats going to happen in the next expansion? Are we all going to be faction leaders? lol
@vividly94
7 жыл бұрын
Judging by the route WoW is going in, i wouldn't be surprised if they ended up making an intergalactic federation. lol
@STAVROS1801
7 жыл бұрын
MrSnuggle i hope they take whats great about zelda breath of the wild and incorporate it into wows leveling AND endgame process
@Blastros01
7 жыл бұрын
Shout out to all my broke boys who weren't too afraid to ask a higher level for some spare change. We were beggin' out here.
@Kargathmen
7 жыл бұрын
I remember begging in Stormwind and a random level 60 giving me 300g. I was very shocked back then :D
@SteelBalla
7 жыл бұрын
Everytime someone asked me I usually gave them 50 silver and whispered "
@MrFalken91
7 жыл бұрын
my number 1 memory from vanilla and probably top 10 wow. Someone was giving out 1.5g to everyone in IF. OFC being broke as I was I traded him but he accidently traded me 1.5k gold :P So suddenly I was rich as fuck! :D Gave him back 500g though. This was mby 15 months after wow came out
@FunnypetsHub36
7 жыл бұрын
word !
@gestucvolonor5069
7 жыл бұрын
i got one gold at lvl 6. was pretty rad
@MrMolester666
7 жыл бұрын
Two things I missed the most from vanilla WoW: 1) Socialization. You stole loot in a raid? Get ready to almost never run a raid again. People used to blacklist others, it would almost keep people playing fair. Constantly ganking? Get ready for reinforcements, and bring your own while you're at it because it's about to get bloody. Also, leveling was a great way to bond with people. If you played Horde, the barrens was the place to be for "intellectual conversations", but fun nonetheless. 2) Talents. You weren't a spec you were the class. For example, I played shaman, not elemental or enhancement shaman. The ability to spend points in all specs made for crazy builds. I speced for heavy survivability with heals and damage reduction while my damage came from hard hitting crits. The class had all the tools of the other specs, but can focus on one, getting special passives/actives for that specific spec.
@Biouke
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I liked to do my own "exotic" specs too, worst one was in LK when the DK came out, I had a 21-18-21 spec (or something along those lines) with OP auto-attacks. Then they decided you couldn't put points in another branch until you had 31 points in your main spec and I was the saddest thing on Azeroth T_T
@Kylora2112
5 жыл бұрын
The social aspect was great, but even now, good luck getting into a decent raiding/PvP guild if you're a dick. There were so many dead ends in Classic where, if you were questing in a low-pop zone like Arathi and needed to do something like Stromgarde or Myzrael, good friggin' luck (especially the latter since there was such a huge chain to get the quest to summon her and the reward was terrible). As far as talents go...there was nothing interesting at all about them, save for a few clutch passives and the big 21 and 31 point talents that got you a new active ability. I mean, hunters, regardless of build, had to go 20 points into Marks because Lethal and Mortal Shots (and Aimed Shot) were the only 3 worthwhile talents that hunters had. Sure, you had the freedom of maybe 1-2 points into a useless talent, but if you were serious about PvP you had one build per class, and serious about raiding, you might have 2 viable builds. There were about 13 worthwhile specs in the entire game for most of the run (Arms, Fury, both Holy specs, Frost, Fire [outside of MC/BWL/Ony], Marks, Combat, Assassination, both Resto specs, Ret [but only because it had Blessing Of Kings], and SM/Ruin warlocks). There was so much worthless clutter and imbalance that it was almost not fun.
@fabiank4396
5 жыл бұрын
In reality there were only one, maybe 2 ways to spend your points. Freedom was just illusion.
@kiranosNT
5 жыл бұрын
@@fabiank4396 The things that really hooked for the talent tree is the constant level by level progression, compared to today where you get a talent every 15 level. You truly looked forward for just that point, to get just a little stronger, trying to see what next talent would be better on the road.
@erejnion
3 жыл бұрын
@@fabiank4396 That's only true if you're raiding. How you spend your points while you are leveling can vary enormously, depending if you are leveling alone or in a group, what you want to do, and etc.
@dustynewman1
7 жыл бұрын
don't forget you had to gain weapon skill for each type of weapon your toon could use.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
This is very true - switching to an upgraded weapon was also troublesome because you had to re-level a new weapon skill. Another big point! Thanks for pointing that out.
@knifetoucher
7 жыл бұрын
DID SOMEBODY ORDER A KNUCKLE SANDWICH?
@troothhoortz3630
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah or going out there and your weapon would miss and miss so you would have to resort to your wand.
@avargs3505
7 жыл бұрын
those poor souls that would get disarmed during a PvP fight or even a duel...only to realize they never spent time lvling their unarmed skill lvl.
@SpaceElvisInc
7 жыл бұрын
OH BOY I GOT A NEW WEAPON ...... oh it's an axe
@Limrasson
7 жыл бұрын
It took me 8 months and some things I did: -Raiding Deadmines with 7 people and ninjalooting a bunch of stuff (I didn't even know about loot rules, I just saw blue and I clicked roll) -Raiding Freewind post with my guild at lvl 18. There were a lot of lvl ?? enemies. -Asking a higher level player to escort me on a Hinterlands herbalism trip in exchange for some of the potions I made from it. (I was low level with high level herbalism and alchemy) I effectively became an NPC giving an annoying escort quest. -PvP with a ganking rogue in STV and because we couldn't kill each other (I'm a druid), we kinda became friends? We just chilled there after a few attempts at each other's lives. Still better love story than...you know. -Taking part of the endless slaughterhouse that's Southshore. And so on. Made a bunch of friends during that time.
@avargs3505
7 жыл бұрын
ditto on the STV part..I rolled a NE druid myself and I would initially take them on quite the chase...and before long..they would give up...a mutual respect was formed. Really like your resourcefulness, especially on that herbalism trip. Thanks for sharing.
@plummet3860
7 жыл бұрын
deadmines was a 5 man instance....
@Limrasson
7 жыл бұрын
Back in the day most instances let more people in. For instance Scholomance was usually done by 10 people. I remember that one in particular because when I joined a raiding guild, I was made one of the main potion/elixir guys and getting the major mana potion recipe (a quest in scholomance) was an actual task for the guild (I even got the major fire resistance potion from LBRS which made me kinda sought after), but the first run failed because it was not a raid quest so I didn't get progress in it. We had to do it as a party. (LBRS was done by 5-10 men and UBRS was always a 15-man raid) So we just got 7 people for DM and went for it.
@Taskmaster17
7 жыл бұрын
Your example of you being an npc giving an escort quest is amazing
@TheCylom
7 жыл бұрын
First time I joined a dungeon and saw the lootbox I needed on everything because I didn't want to be greedy and press greed.
@Peacelulz
7 жыл бұрын
3:17 The days of Thottbot and Allakhazam =)
@frenchcurse7287
7 жыл бұрын
and the 10 million players on same web page for the same info ::D
@avargs3505
7 жыл бұрын
Totally forgot about the 2nd one..dang it has been a while...
@michaelolaf9968
7 жыл бұрын
Been playing on a vanilla server, and I adore the inconvenience and challenge of leveling. Interpreting information, navigating the world, negotiating dangerous situations, cooperating with others, and risking death all the while is the whole point of the game, right? Everyone says so, but it seems like gradual streamlining just detracted from the adventure.
@siveonfarcloud4190
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah the adventure was fun. You could see someone almost dying to some NPCs and give him a little hand, then you kinda progressed to talking and doing quests together, adding each other to the friends list, maybe even making a guild or joining the same one. You actually met people along the way and made friends. Most MMOs lost this since the old days.
@lolsa123
5 жыл бұрын
people these days value instant gratification, everything they do in a game no matter it it takes 5 minutes or 5 seconds, it should be a instant gratification that they have achieved something. not many players have the time these days to play 10-15 hrs just for one level no matter how rewarding the endgoal is. sad but true.
@lolsa123
5 жыл бұрын
@@Krigfattig the word that suits you is "mentally challenged" now buzz off you swedish chuck.
@lolsa123
5 жыл бұрын
@@Krigfattig lol "general lvling speed" vs your best lvling speed at 5½ day lol, what are you even on about? you think you will reach 1 day lvling speed now?
@lolsa123
5 жыл бұрын
@@Krigfattig lol in comparison to the latter 3 expansion in WoW, it's challenging. the same goes for the dungeons. and if you state that the new dungeons are harder i stand to believe that you've never actually played vanilla even if you brag about your 6 characters.
@silversurfer8818
7 жыл бұрын
I was so broke back then that it was easier to get rank 11 in PvP and get the epic mount 4free than to grind the gold and buy it!
@toohighstrung
7 жыл бұрын
I still level on a private server in vanilla, its so much more satisfying when you stick to it
@holdinmcgroin8639
7 жыл бұрын
I leveled in vanilla... ...as a holy paladin
@Brandy._
7 жыл бұрын
*gasp*
@cookiegaming572
7 жыл бұрын
Holdin McGroin same. My brother recommended it to me as I was new and could heal myself. To this day I still play that paladin. Telasero Defias Brotherhood EU born. 30th of March 2006
@DrPluton
7 жыл бұрын
So did I (alongside my mage). I enjoyed being able to heal through pretty much anything as a paladin, but I loved the offensive power of the mage.
@nesano4735
7 жыл бұрын
That's actually the best paladin leveling spec. You do pretty much the same damage as ret (Just use SotC and whack shit), and you never run out of mana because every 2 minutes you can cast a holy light crit that refunds all mana.
@asojka911
7 жыл бұрын
Me too........... Talk about a grind...
@instructoryazo6724
7 жыл бұрын
I remember finally getting the Krol Blade in vanilla, 2 months later BC came out. I killed my first mob in the Xpac and replaced the Krol blade with what it dropped. #feelsbadman
@kollitumi
7 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, krol blade was like a lvl 50 epic so its not that strange.
@instructoryazo6724
7 жыл бұрын
kollib ya, but was still best tanking weapon outside of raids.
@JoeJacksonJr
7 жыл бұрын
Yea I wished I still had many of the weapons I had back in Vanilla that you can not get anymore..
@Rabidus289
7 жыл бұрын
I still have my Arcanite Reaper in my main characters bank. Sadly my friend who borrowed the account vendored my full Valor set.
@khanzy.
6 жыл бұрын
Rabidus I think you could ask the GMs to replace those items. Say someone hacked your account.
@fabiandoom1
7 жыл бұрын
omg thottbot and asking general chat and gathering a group and walk together to them i miss that tho ;(
@DraxonTehWarrior
7 жыл бұрын
Met a lot of friends that way back in the day.
@Xylos144
7 жыл бұрын
I ran SM Cathedral 42 times before I got that damn caster hat from the boss. Had to run there every time from Ironforge. Fly to South Shore, skirt by Dalaran, swim through hammer-something lake, and run all the way to the instance. And most of those runs were before I was 40 and got a mount. And it made getting a mount awesome and epic and wonderful. 10/10 would do it again in a heartbeat. The fact is people were willing to run that kind of distance for an experience with other people. That's not something you can say about the current game.
@Biouke
7 жыл бұрын
And being ganked at the entrance of the Monastery :p
@Xylos144
7 жыл бұрын
It built character. And by 'character' I mean a deep-seated rage and thirst for vengeance.
@BummedProductions
7 жыл бұрын
You are my favorite youtuber hands down. Awesome nostalgia.
@Uri1991
7 жыл бұрын
Man this made me feel so nostalgic... remembering questing with my lock. I had the quest to get the she-demon and I had to go all the way from Ironforge to Kalmidor into Horde territory. I was so in love with the travelling experience. Of course it took around 4 months to level it up but man, once you toped your level you had such an adventure in your shoulders
@guisasse
7 жыл бұрын
Love the series! Tbh, you can make them longer if you feel like it. Lore/History videos are fine at 20+~ minutes
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