I wouldn't recommend it for steep banking airplanes either. Great for miniQuads that typically maintain orientation, though. I use a 45 degree adapter to hold it upright on my quad in flight.
@south02m
7 жыл бұрын
will there be different lenghts or just one?
@CAGreve1231
7 жыл бұрын
Just one length... at least for now.
@tcoffel34
7 жыл бұрын
I also use a 45 degree adapter for mine on my mini quads, and it works beautifully. One thing to obviously note, people tend to buy cheap adapters from China, which isn't ALWAYS bad, but a good quality 45 degree adapter from a reputable vendor will go a long way to maintaining signal clarity and not add lots of unnecessary noise. Love all your products, Alex!
@CAGreve1231
7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to say that I really appreciate this review. Granted, I may not agree with everything in it, but I really appreciate the honesty explaining to viewers that there were things he did not like. We need more reviews like this.
@NickLangMedia
7 жыл бұрын
I think this is exactly what you want in a review... honesty. When you developed this antenna you were aware of its shortcomings, but its benefits far out way them!
@blackmennewstyle
7 жыл бұрын
VAS Bluebeam
@solaris8x86
7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It is a good RX antenna. Thanks to its high gain. But not good for TX to be installed on a quad. As quad has to roll in any angle at any time. Lower gain whether the pattern closes to a sphere is better.
@musicbones13
7 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried them for tx. However I did try it for rx in a controlled environment, I used a diversity setup using a mad mushroom and a 3 turn helical vs JUST the ion. The ion clearly was better than my diversity setup. Very happy with it.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Musicbones13 how much did you pay for yours? People are asking, and I don't know the price.
@musicbones13
7 жыл бұрын
Spoon FPV $17 cheap
@stank_fpv6760
7 жыл бұрын
Vids coming along nicely, keep up the good work.
@Matt_Forcum
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I ordered one to try out as a receiver antenna based on your recommendation. And thanks again Alex for what looks to be another great product!
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think he really likes my review of his product, and I feel bad because he gave it to me, but all I can do is provide my honest opinion. I really love it, and the Ion is what I use for reception end of story. If I thought it sucked I would have told him I'm not doing the review. Anyway, if you have had a chance to use it, would love to have your feedback on it.
@1337flite
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making your videos dude.
@sheabutter173
5 жыл бұрын
cool video ..i have used the Airscrew & Madmushroom set up for years ... now i really want the new stuff .think i will get the ion for the VRX ...but what VAS antenna do you recommend for the VTX ? And what do you think of the new Madmushroom ? did the ion take place of the airscrew ?
@drewb213
7 жыл бұрын
great content, I'm gonna have to give it a try.. I actually found you from jc's channel.. he said how awesome your videos are, and I agree I get a lot from your findings thank you
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+DrewB FPV Thanks, yeah I'm glad he sent people my way, sad he's gone.
@randallrogers6608
7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the very timely video. I was able to purchase 2 Ion's recently. I was using a Mad Mushroom as a receiving antenna and it has been the best I have used. I found the Ion to be as good if not better for my application in most instances. I like it because of its strong performance and it's small light weight design. I really like the Mad Mushroom and will continues to use it as a back up to my Ion. I think they are at least interchangeable. Given a choice small, light weight and powerful is always first on my goggles. I like it when plan B is just as good as plan A. Thanks
@TheKookieMon-MikeyBrien
7 жыл бұрын
Great & honest review. We need more channels like this 👍 Hey noticed you're in DE. I live in Milton and looking for people to fly with. Could I join you guys some time? Looked up First State Flight Club and found a Meetup group. Don't mind the drive
@jackhammell1926
5 жыл бұрын
Same results here. Thanx for the vid
@drfter240sx
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I’ve been looking for a good rx antenna and this is it! Liked and sub
@mooosestang
7 жыл бұрын
So what antenna do you use on your quads? The tbs? I was just looking at this antenna at getfpv, i'm still using the two axii that i purchased on pre-order, both lost the caps, but a little hot glue fixed them right up. They have to be the most durable antennas i've ever used. I know i saw some reviews where the tbs didn't do to hot.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
The TBS antennas are amazing for performance. The SMA connector on them seems to fail more than other connectors. The AXII is my favorite antenna for mini quad for sure. The AXII has really good performance, and is super durable, they're just super hard to find in stock. The other antenna I like is the Foxeer antenna, great performance and durability, it's what I fly when I can't find the AXII.
@NOXFPV
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great review. Ill probably get one for reception.
@ganon420
7 жыл бұрын
nice video. do you still feel like the ion is the best antenna for RX?
@wadestewart3042
7 жыл бұрын
I want to know what is that big quad is in the back ground spoon. Good to see you've got some free time on your hands.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Wade Stewart lol, I built that as a total joke, it's a 6S XFrame on the flite test electro hub, it flew a few times...not well.
@anthonya115
7 жыл бұрын
Would be helpful if you could include some DVR footage comparing the best antennas there. Awesome video though.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always find those to be very subjective. I like a computer to give me a number, but if that's what people want I will include in my next round of testing.
@justinv7412
7 жыл бұрын
Question: Thanks for sharing this! What is your favorite TX when using the Ion as an RX? Cheers!
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
I like the Axii, and the Foxeer el-chepo antennas for TX, the Triumph is good too, but my favorite is the Foxeer, because it's cheap and holds up. The AxII's take a beating too, but hard to find and expensive
@petermabbort456
7 жыл бұрын
Hi SpoonFPV. I'm running a blue bean set up. So if I understand ...the reason you don't reckons for a tx antenna is the holes in the tx pattern. So is there an improvement where it's worth buying this and replacing the receiver antenna from he blue beam ex antenna?
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Peter Mabbort I didn't test it against the Blue Beam. The bluebeam is really good receive antenna, wish I would have included it.
@piman3072
7 жыл бұрын
Peter Mabbort all antennas have points of good reception and points with bad reception. You can never have a perfectly spherical (isotropic) radiation pattern. All omnis have a toroidal pattern, but higher gain necessitates that the radiation pattern is squished some way, the gain has to come from somewhere. For omni antennas, more gain means worse reception from the top and bottom of the antenna. A lower gain Tx antenna would actually be preferable on a quad copter, as there are often many rapid changes to the antenna orientation.
@petermabbort456
7 жыл бұрын
Wow dude. Thanks for that. That's the first time I actually get it. Cheers for taking the time to explain. P
@Jamaicarasramarc
6 жыл бұрын
Good video
@jonathankrum3016
7 жыл бұрын
I use the tbs stubby which if I understand correctly VAS helped with. I have the furious v on my hd3's it works good except that when recording on the sd card it doesn't look very good. When they antennae switches there is a dead spot in the recording which is there when your flying.
@RoninFPV
7 жыл бұрын
nice work as usual 👍
@whoknows8678
7 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to a VAS Mad Mushroom on a LaForge V2 unit with diversity?
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
LaForge V2 with diversity seems to be one of the best receivers out there. That alone will up your video reception. I think the Mad Mushroom is a fantastic antenna, but compared to the Ion I think the Ion has better reception, at a better price point.... provided you don't do a lot of flying nearly directly overhead.
@zoltangremsperger5361
6 жыл бұрын
if I use VAS Ion on my googles and TBS Triumph on the quad ? or Triumph on googles and Triumph on quad is better?
@dmaywalt
7 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a couple from Alex at Flying Circus for $17 each.... did not get a chance to fly with them yet
@doupnetwork
7 жыл бұрын
David Maywalt Hey did u have a chance to test em out yet? if so what u think?
@xonsightx
6 жыл бұрын
good video man. hope it helped. i am using the same setup on my hd2's
@HaveFaithInGod
6 жыл бұрын
So how do you rate the Pagoda vs the TBS? Your voice shows exclamation when you mention the TBS but you seem more to ho hum the Pagoda.
@SpoonFPV
6 жыл бұрын
+Colin Bruner the Pagota is a really good antenna, but not for all around use, it sufferes from the same issues as the ION, and it's not durable at all. The triumph, and AXII are both good all around antennas that are durable. I would recommend the pagota for reception, but on anything you plan on banking you're gonna lose signal at a distance.
@BBSlats
5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the VAS minion
@audiogek
7 жыл бұрын
This helped a lot! Thanks! liked&subbed :)
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub, and the like, and the comment.
@petermabbort456
6 жыл бұрын
Can I ask ... why wouldn’t you recommend them for the vtx?
@SpoonFPV
6 жыл бұрын
The pattern is too squished for VTX in my opinion. If you don't do a lot of acro and keep your quad mostly upright then you will be fine, but when the antenna is at an angle relative to you, then you end up out of the main lobe of the antenna and loose reception. The super strong wide lobe is amazing for receiving signals that are in the horizontal plane provided you keep your head level.
@HaveFaithInGod
6 жыл бұрын
Another promo without basic info! Where do you buy them?
@MrDevilFlash
7 жыл бұрын
What would be the best antenna on the transmitter side then? Thanks!
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+MrDevilFlash I think it's very subjective. I don't really notice a difference between the Axii, triumph, or the foxeer. Between those three they are all good. The foxeer is cheap and durable.
@piman3072
7 жыл бұрын
MrDevilFlash Stubby Triumphs are pretty great, the AXii is super fragile, and standard cloverleafs have pretty bad axial ratio. Most scenarios linear dipoles work pretty well with a good Rx and Rx antennas. A lot of my local club, including myself, use linear Tx and circular Rx and it works great for the weight. Linear on the Rx side would be worse due to the losses associated with linear antennas not being perfectly aligned
@mooosestang
7 жыл бұрын
The axii is fragile? I've yet to break one. I lost both caps and put hot glue over them and they have been doing great. I normally use beerotors and they break often by pulling out of the sma, but not the axii, because there is not much to catch on stuff.
@piman3072
7 жыл бұрын
mooosestang instagram.com/p/BUA8zc5gCL4/ I've heard similar reports from a number of people
@mooosestang
7 жыл бұрын
Ah, see, my caps came off and i immediately put hot glue over the exposed elements and they have been solid. I crash through the freaking trees all day with them. I'll order 2 more and put glue on before i lose the covers this time. Every other antenna i've tried breaks at the sma.
@ArtimusPrime
7 жыл бұрын
Better than the mad mushroom for receive?
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
I didn't test it against the mad mushroom, but that one is also very good.
@musicbones13
7 жыл бұрын
I say yes, better than mad mushroom for rx. I've been using mad mushroom for years. This performed far better than my mad mushroom combined with a 3 turn helical.
@norcal8946
6 жыл бұрын
What would you consider the BEST “Directional” to use w/ the Ion on Fat Shark HD3?
@SpoonFPV
6 жыл бұрын
+Nor Cal I use a the TBS patch because it's small. I really don't fly that far away where I really care about my directional. I have a crosshair and pepperbox, but they are just too big for my taste. If you really are flying on the directional, you need to be aware of your beam width and not flying off the side of it, because your video will drop out like you flipped a switch when you exit that beam if you are outside the range of your omni.
@TobermoryCat
7 жыл бұрын
Who sells these Vas Ion antennas please? Curious about the price.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
I think they are direct from Alex at this point. Probably Stone Blue, and RMRC will be the first to carry. I'll ask some folks who bought them at the recent Flying Circus what they paid
@TobermoryCat
7 жыл бұрын
thanks. Also waiting to see who is first to cut one open to see the magic inside.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Tobermory Cat If Alex didn't give it to me I would, but I feel it would be wrong at the pre production phase to cut it open, you know competitors and all
@TobermoryCat
7 жыл бұрын
very true and sad. The chap has made a huge contribution.
@schumata3356
7 жыл бұрын
Is this available for purchase yet? I don't see it anywhere. 😩
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Schumata I think they are pre release at this point.
@ofiasdfnosdf
7 жыл бұрын
Too bad it's not good for transmission - I've been waiting for one with this cone-shape so it doesn't get caught on branches, etc.
@dronedoutrc5970
6 жыл бұрын
YOu should take it apert man, there is only a monopole in there from the looks of it. Tore one open and all I had seen in it was a little wire. Nothing else that I could see.
@SpoonFPV
6 жыл бұрын
+Droned Out! R/C yeah I'm aware of what's inside. The genious piece is the shell that goes around it creates the polarization off a small dipole. All antennas are just lengths of conductor but it's not as simple as it appears to be in this case.
@PhatKid
7 жыл бұрын
Spooooonn!!!!
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Phat Kid Yoh and rich both with that Spoon!!!! Good flying with you.
@AIfpv
7 жыл бұрын
nice! keep it up bro :D
@norcal8946
6 жыл бұрын
Spoon - Just startin out w/ micro & mini but want good equip Spektrum compatible. Thanks so much for ur quick reply. I subbed in case u come out w/ any newbie equip tips😉
@rcdreaminess1626
7 жыл бұрын
I installed one on my monitor mostly cause it's tiny and it's work well .
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really like them for reception. I see they were selected as one of the two choices for spec class antenna for multi-gp, the real story will be told when in 6 months which antenna the pilots prefer.
@rgrodriguez37
7 жыл бұрын
I see the wing!!! Look at that spoon has a wing.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah, I have a wing, it's awesome. I was flying miniquad gates with it full tilt in the wind the other night.
@rgrodriguez37
7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to bring it out tomorrow!
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
What's tomorrow? Lol, just kidding. I have an Aspec for you too. I think I'm not flying wings tomorrow, so that I can get all my miniquad practice in.
@rgrodriguez37
7 жыл бұрын
Spoon FPV would you rather go to a race or practice the course and race layout for dover
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
I thought the plan was practice the course for dover
@kerjs02
7 жыл бұрын
Dam Spoon now we wont be able to by they anywhere. They will be all sold out. First its Tramp HV, Betaflight FC, Dude.LOL thanks for the vids I refer to a couple of them to refresh my memory on how to do some things like fix my battery cables my props ate up.
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Lol, that's seriously the dilemma I have when I do a really positive review, I can't buy them either after that. I don't think I have that much pull though, but I did make a dent in the TBS V2 market, because I don't think anyone was using them before I showed the backpack mod. Thanks for the feedback.
@jiml4987
7 жыл бұрын
Which video is the backpack mod?
@xyzebruh1083
7 жыл бұрын
every antenna will have dead space on top of it, always going to be a donut shape transmission. So when are these going to be fully tested and not just talked about the whole time in a video, need video feed footage comparison, gain testing, etc? Being there is only a few out in the hands of people these need to be thoroughly tested for the passion of the FPV hobbyist
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Richard E Yes that's correct, but this is a flatter doughnut with a much bigger hole
@xyzebruh1083
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome they should suit my needs fine then for quadcopter racing. When are they going to be field tested?
@NickLangMedia
7 жыл бұрын
It's like a donut!!!
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
Filming that video today =)
@Electobat
7 жыл бұрын
Bad audio sorry had to leave.
@logantic
7 жыл бұрын
This antenna is garbage it broke super easy and it's looks like a simple dipole antenna...
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Lokeni Siuta it's not a simple dipole, the polarization happens in in the cap
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Lokeni Siuta I guess that answers my question about durability though :) I don't fly them, only use them on my goggles.
@kenchenfpv3568
7 жыл бұрын
LOL "thanks immersion for getting people into the hobby, but you can do better"
@SpoonFPV
7 жыл бұрын
+Ken Chen yeah...well I'm not a big fan of much of their antennas
@kenchenfpv3568
7 жыл бұрын
Spoon FPV when could we get a review of the V2 spironets? I wanna see if anything has improved
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