A. Gallo is the reddest, but also like the Sennelier.
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
Great choices. Thank you.
@elaineg60
7 ай бұрын
I have some true vermillion, as well as cinnabar, both are in the form of Traditional Chinese Paint Chips (yes, I keep them, my gamboge and other “toxic” paints kept safely in a sealed box in my cabinet and usually only use them if I’m either out on the porch-OR my bestie has her own studio). I also got some PR106 from Gregory last year..but, as you show, it seems dulled, even chalky compared to my Chinese paints. I was working on a piece that needed a large amount of vermillion, preferably a VERY vibrant one. This was for a “replica” of a 19th century piece that I was mixing Eastern & Western supplies and techniques. Liz decided she would try it on a pre-mounted silk scroll I had; I used a large sheet of Arche’s. After a LOT of testing-Liz ended up using the vermillion chips on the scroll; I used Rosa gallery’s flame red PO73 (with a TOUCH of PY184 mixed in for highlighted spots). It really DID come down to the paper we were using and how the pigment acted and looked like on either the sized xuan (on the silk scroll, a very delicate “glass paper” was pre-mounted); or the Arche’s cold press. Testing the Chinese vermillion on the cold press-seemed to take away the vibrancy it has on the xuan paper. Before you mention it, I’m well aware of the different binders in Chinese paint and have developed a “system”-I mix a bit of mingjiao (Hu mingjiao is traditional fish glue found in most Asian traditional paints) in clean brush water, add a few drops to wet..SOME, NOT ALL of my Western paints and you can easily adapt them to use on Xuan paper. The other way can be a bit tricky..using these natural pigments on western paper…it has mixed results. Anyways, sorry-but thank you for this! I had been thinking of getting the Sennelier vermillion-I’m definitely getting it now!😂
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
Thank you Elaine. I do love to have the originals as a comparison for mixing and modern pigments. I like you don’t put them in a main palette, better safe than sorry. It is amazing to see how the different papers play a large roll. I try to stay consistent in my paper for swatching, usually Saunders Waterford or Fabriano HP, they tend to show good vibrancy, with less emphasis on texture. I’m not well versed Xuan or rice paper, but I would like to play on them more in the near. Your system for altering the binder to make it work, is incredible, makes me want to experiment .
@elaineg60
7 ай бұрын
@@RaspberryColors I actually experimented at the request of one of my Chinese tutors. Very long story short, the quality of traditional paints took a nosedive in the past 10yrs as traditional paint makers who had made ONLY traditional paint chips…expanded into Western markets. My paint chips were from my first tutor, an 85yr old (14yrs ago) retired professor who had taught Chinese art, culture and history here in the US for 30yrs before retiring back to China. The differences in both the paper (xuan is usually very thin and delicate-although we suggest double xuan for those first moving into Eastern painting) AND the paint mediums which allow for much slower absorption , but adhere the pigments into the paper… I needed a western paint with the least bit of binders, preferably single pigments-Rosa’s Gallery worked best. Most western paints will tear, almost dissolve, the xuan paper. And to use my older, high quality paint chips on western paper-it goes on more like gouache. So I make another brush water with a few drops of QOR’s watercolor medium. 🤷🏼♀️. Works like a charm! I know quite a few Chinese artists are using Kuretake paints-because they’re made with mingjiao ( “fish glue”), one of the binders in traditional paints. As for originals…I got some PB33 last year and mulled my own…I was in heaven! 😂. My favorite blue-AND I made some with western binders and one with Chinese binders! I was less impressed with PB31. (Egyptian blue). I did get some PB35 and PR233 to make my favorite cool gray..we named it hummingbird wing gray. I have a few more I haven’t made yet because of health issues, but…hopefully soon!
@amypanddirtytoo1926
7 ай бұрын
I do Chinese brush painting/Japanese sumi-e and nothing beats actual vermillion. Green is my favorite color, but vermillion is my favorite paint color. I also use the chip colors. No kids and everything stays in my studio. On the alum sized paper it looks amazing, the glass paper/cicada wing paper you were talking about. I also have some true vermillion in Michael Harding oil paint and Old Holland oil paints (very VERY expensive, Michael Harding charges about $150 for a 40 ml tube, but worth it to me).
@ms.rocketscience4924
7 ай бұрын
I love the Sennelier 😍 The A.Gallo is lovely also, but the Prodigal Sons does indeed seem dull and chalky. Thanks for sharing.
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
Yes the Sennelier is beautiful. Thank you
@alexknudsen2759
3 ай бұрын
Wow I love your videos, such a great way to tell the difference between paints. Vermillion is my favorite color so being able to see how these all looks is great!
@RaspberryColors
3 ай бұрын
So glad it helps. Thank you
@keepyourshoesathedoor
2 ай бұрын
I love A. Gallo and the prodigal sons one. I wish it wasn’t toxic because it’s so beautiful.
@RaspberryColors
2 ай бұрын
Great choices, I agree, I wish it wasn’t toxic. Thank you.
@suzykeene9298
7 ай бұрын
Sennelier and A.Gallo
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
Beautiful choices. Thank you.
@diadumenos82
6 ай бұрын
Vermillion is my favorite colour😊. I use Vermillion Hue (Holbein) and I love it so much
@RaspberryColors
6 ай бұрын
Great choice, it’s vibrancy is beautiful. Thank you.
@suzykeene9298
6 ай бұрын
A.Gallo seems to be most like Vermillion
@shadowguard3578
6 ай бұрын
A. Gallo for me. Schmincke, Sennelier, and Holbein are A. Gallo wannabes 😂! I really like the Prodigal Son watercolor in its own right, but compared to the others it’s dull. I don’t know what genuine vermillion looks like so it’s odd that the four hues are so much brighter than the Prodigal Son watercolor.
@RaspberryColors
6 ай бұрын
Love the A Gallo. The PS is the vintage pigment used for Vermillion, the others are the modern day replicas, that are safer to use and more lightfast, but fun to see them compared. Thank you.
@derwood206
7 ай бұрын
Favorite is A. Gallo's Vermilion Hue, PR255 and second fave is Sennelier. Still wary of PR106 due to mercury but love how it swatches in your comparison. Have you tried A Gallo's Cinabro Hue (its a beautiful color)? Not sure if was another option and was supposed to mimic PR106 or not. Thanks again!
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
We will be getting into Scarlett’s which include some Pr255. Yes I like to show what the others are trying to copy, I think it’s fun to see. Thank you.
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
Which is your favorite Vermillion?
@mariarecuencocanas3653
6 ай бұрын
Do you know why most brands don't use the old pigment any more?
@RaspberryColors
6 ай бұрын
Toxicity and rarity of the pigment. Thank you Maria.
@mariarecuencocanas3653
7 ай бұрын
Sennelier and Gallo are the best. Prodigan sons' doesn't look like a vermillion to me.
@RaspberryColors
7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Love your choices. PS is the old pigment, fun to see it compared. Thank you.
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