This series is amazing. Thank you for the time you put in it.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, glad you're enjoying it!
@TastyCrabz
Жыл бұрын
i can sleep tonight
@PaintMasterPoE
Жыл бұрын
Never considered using it, but now i see that its very very easy way to get 50/50 block on some build with literally 1 item and without use of tempest shield 😯
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's going to be quite good on some very specific builds. I'm interested to see when/if they rework Glad in 3.22, exactly how that rework goes down and if it's still the block ascendancy will it work well with this keystone
@5ean5ean22
Жыл бұрын
RIP Gladiator
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
3.22 rework PauseChamp
@midknightcrisis8612
Жыл бұрын
The Iron Fortress wasn't mentioned here. Spell block becoming unlucky means youre basically on 50/25 cap, but you can become blockcapped as a strength stacker (most of which use this item anyway) without any further investment once your strength surpasses 2-3k strength depending on wether ur dual wield or have a shield (which is a high investment on its own tbf)
@grimmdawn2519
Жыл бұрын
Ur content is amazing dude, keep going, grettings from chile.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@chrisditmi7119
Жыл бұрын
very good series with the keystones. Thanks.
@pixelj4877
Жыл бұрын
the advantages of being capped at 75%, with or without glancing blows, makes versatile combatant's downside way too hard to swallow, both defensively and offensively. The shaper shield's % life/mana/energy shield recovery on block, or the mastery 3%spell/attack damage per 5% chance to block, and of course Aegis Aurora is a big advantage to being at 75% vs 50%. Light of Lunaris's 1% crit multiplier per 1% chance to block attack damage is also a good way to scale block defensively and offensively. I'm probably forgetting a few.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
If you have recovery on block, glancing w/ 75/75 block will be superior for mapping, but we're talking about different levels of investment here. As I mentioned in the video, you can almost cap raw 50/50 block with just the two wheels and VC with a shield that has a well rolled chance to block mod, and it's on the entirely other side of the passive tree, so these setups are not really comparable. The same two builds will not be able to freely make a choice between those setups, as they will always favour one or the other based on placement.
@pixelj4877
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg I agree. In some obscure cases, as you mention in the video, it might be worth it. If you are pathing in that area with a duelist or ranger, and are using a shield. However, they are strictly defensive and have to be combined with other defensive mechanics like evasion and spell suppression to make it worth it. That keystone needs some love to get higher adoption.
@joelcuerrier4833
Жыл бұрын
I'd say block is still used in some of the strongest defensive setup since 3.16 came about. Namely, Aegis Aurora becoming one of the most popular item in the game. Prior to 3.16, it really wasn't, but now that people scale armor with the buffed determination gem, this shield became way more powerful than when we had most of the armor in our build coming from clicking +3000 armor from a granite flask with 100% increased armor suffix (those legacy magic flasks on standard are now half a mirror if crafted with 25% effect, make sure not to click an alt on them by accident). So block still is quite popular and the Aegis Aurora + pre-nerf melding made you near immortal at minimal cost.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Aegis is defenitely very strong, especially in a Melding setup even post nerf, but that's about it. And you have some Necromancer builds getting capped block too, but prior to those nerfs in 3.16, you had every good Gladiator build with 75/75 raw block, plenty of Ascendant/Necromancer build doing the same using Bone Armour, no Aegis needed, largely because that was a different time in a very different meta where reliable defenses were few and far between and block/dodge were king. Many builds can no longer afford to spec into block as the investment into spell suppression/armour/evasion/reservation & aura effect take precedent and things like The Fourth Vow exist now so chance based defenses are needed less and less.
@joelcuerrier4833
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg Don't take what I say as a criticism of what you are saying. I think you are the best new poe channel around, providing very factual and informed details about the game. All I'm giving is a bit of context. Like yes, some things are now perhaps a little better, but those other things are also great. Aegis Aurora is definitely one of the most smooth defensive layer because in most cases you can leave your char AFK in the middle of 100 mobs and your block sustain you to full.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
@@joelcuerrier4833 It's not criticism, at least I don't see it like that anyway, it's just discussion on the state of the game, and I like to discuss it with people who have different views on it than I do so I can gain more perspective. I did forget about the one league where aegis/melding was absolutely ridiculous(I think 3.17) and I don't really feel that block overall is in a bad place. It's more that things like Gladiator are unpopular, while stuff like Jugg/PF/Champ builds that don't really care or need any kind of block are very meta right now. I'm excited to see what happens to Gladiator in 3.22(I'm definitely making the assumption that it will be reworked in that league, lol)
@joelcuerrier4833
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg Yes, people complain about 3.15, but I didn't mind it too much. What I did find bad was the decision they made to move ascendancies inside the passive tree. Trickster was my favorite class and originally once they moved ghost dance on the tree, it no longer made any sense. I played Champion and all builds after that using Ghost Dance. They were just better at using ghost dance than trickster by that point. Even when I'd play a witch, it would get evasion, it would get ghost dance. They did fix trickster now and it is perhaps back as my favorite class, with some very powerful offensive and defensive options. However, gladiator didn't go the same way. Ghost Dance was basically given to everyone else... the same way it was on trickster. But versatile combatant is really not what the glad ascendancy was. This ascendancy on glad was making you a super tank once you could get your spell block to 75-80 matching your attack block. Steelmage at the time was continually rolling glad for gauntlet and the base game. It was just a super safe option. But right, the transformation of the game since 3.15 have been radical. The defenses we have now are insane for the content of 3.14. But I'd note also that the maps we run become deadlier than ever. It doesn't matter what your defenses are once you've clicked a few altars really. You have 100,000 armor, nice... but you already clicked altars that make you take most of the phys damage hits, so what difference does it make? You had to, it was 4% chance to drop grand eldritch currency. It's gonna drop you 50-60c worth of them for sure. So you take a chance, you click them all because the reward is good. Then your defenses are completely bricked by the end of the map. This is one big change in the latest expansion... altars are there to make sure your immortal giga-tank still die because you clicked one too many altars with big downsides. People on HC have to skip good rewards because it become too dangerous. On SC, unless you are on a grind from 99 to 100, you'll always pick the reward even if it kill you. I'll even take those ridiculous negative 100% chaos res downside if the upside is good. Running maps become more dangerous than bossing when you do it that way... your defenses are just something you have on your PoB until you clicked 10 altars.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
@@joelcuerrier4833 I felt pretty much the same way with 3.15, but instead of ghost dance, the only problem I really had with it was some of the skill cost multiplier changes, I still think many of them are bad even till today(stuff like heralds come to mind, rip HoAG). Personally I play HC, mostly SSF too so I see the altars in quite a different light. I still click the dangerous ones though if grand ichors are dropping, but I won't be clicking several dangerous altars in a row even if the rewards are good unless I need something very specifically. Maps are definitely more dangerous than bossing generally anyway I'd say, altars or no altars, because bossing is predictable, but you just don't know what you will find in a map when all of the variables are combined. I think we'll see something similar to 3.15 again before PoE2 or at the same time as PoE2, this huge shift, probably even bigger this time. Many will see nerfs, but I didn't really see 3.15 like that(it obviously was nerf heavy on the face of things, but necessary imo), the game does need a 'hard' reset every once in a while or you end up with D3
@deceiver444
9 ай бұрын
Finally a video which helped me understand this passive
@180isa
Жыл бұрын
This keystone + dawnbreaker and the shield mastery for "+ 1 block chance per every 5 on shield " can cap both your spell and attack block for very low investment. This combo is very strong for fighting things like uber shaper, sometime your character can only survive two of the three shaper balls he shoots, and the 50% block chance can be enough avoidance for your recovery to save you from the third ball.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Yep, very strong combo
@180isa
Жыл бұрын
i was able to get to depth 1400 with only 153% recoup, a progensis flask and 50% of both block. I had 0 armour and evasion.
@KUNAIfever
Жыл бұрын
pre patch Versatile Combatant my beloved
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
3.22 Gladiator 👀
@FinalBeggining
Жыл бұрын
Really nice video man u sure putting in work! It actually got me inspired to make some build that will use the keystone
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Eyy I'm glad to hear that dude, lmk how it goes!
@FinalBeggining
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg i think i will try selfcast Exsanguinate as Scion so i will grab gladiator ascendancy for block and 20% more phys over time + idk maybe pathfinder for flask regen
@otz6408
Жыл бұрын
you forgot you can combine this keystone with glancing blows. if you happen to be pathing near both of those. to very cheaply get great block for no investment. used it with a build that had redblade banner. which made me have 50% block and 40% spell block. with only a shield
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing a keystone highlight about glancing blows soon, but I didn't include it in this video for two reason: First it's very rare that a build will be at VC and GB and wouldn't prefer using those points to invest into either keystone on its own instead(if you're at GB, you can forgo pathing to VC and get enough block & spell block near there to go for 75/75 GB block and use things like recovery on block, and if you're at VC you can forgo pathing to GB and just go for 50/50 raw block), Also, I generally believe glancing is a bit of a bait unless you have 75/75 block with recover on block mechanics, as the keystone is otherwise a net negative in terms of damage taken. Fe. in the scenario where you took glancing, you had 35% chance to take no damage from attacks, and 65% chance to take full damage from attacks, and you spent a passive point to now take 65% of the damage from attacks half of the time, and full damage from attacks the other half of the time. And 65% of the damage from spell 40% of the time, and full damage from spells the other 60% of the time. Unless you have a way to offset the damage from GB, it's almost never beneficial to take it over just having the block you already had.
@f.jideament
Жыл бұрын
If only 'channeling' mechanics had any special upside with block.
@Zionazism_Is_Bad_Mmkay
Жыл бұрын
Comment for the Comment gods.
@csabijooo
Жыл бұрын
i wish u talked about the keystone where u can only have one aura on u i dont really get why anyone would ever use that
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
If you're talking about Mortal Conviction, which used to be behind Blood Magic, that was removed in 3.17 and replaced with Eternal Blessing support. You may be referring to Supreme Ego as well, but this one doesn't limit one aura?
@csabijooo
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg ah yeah i miss wrote i meant only 1 herald Calamitous Visions is the one i was thinking about
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
@@csabijooo Ahh yes, that makes more sense! I'll likely be getting round to Calamitous Visions soon, but that keystone is still used a bit in HoT autobomber builds
@dervakommtvonhinten517
3 ай бұрын
does blocking work with sanctum? meaning if you block the hit, you dont lose resovle?
@balabannicolai1293
Жыл бұрын
Do u have about glancing blows?
@balabannicolai1293
Жыл бұрын
I do use it with cap armour and evasion. Invulnerable to mobs.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Glancing highlight will be soon!
@G33KST4R
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this node is such bad bait. Personally I think it should get the glancing blows downside or lower max block by 10-15%. 25% is such a huge loss.
@toukoenriaze9870
Жыл бұрын
Its funny ... Versatile as it is right now is antisynergistic with gladiator right now ... Gaining 10% means it takes 10% more attack block to cap ... Meaning you lose 20% potential spell block
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Well you get that 10% on the ascendancy, more than 10% actually and it means you can have higher attack block overall which is still quite good. Not even close to old gladiator power levels though, unfortunately!
@user-bp8sv1dc7l
Жыл бұрын
Versatile + surrender is as good as 100k armor glancing blows aegis. No wonder people cry about oneshots and game too hard since no one uses it. One of the best keystones.
@user-bi4kd6zt6y
Жыл бұрын
I thought this keystone was essential for dual-weapon build without capping spell blocks.
@Seelenverheizer
Жыл бұрын
The numbers are not there to make it a worthwhile socndary layer. With how usefull and cheap tempest shield is glancing blows is often better if one is near it and can spare like a few passive points. I think best case is that it is combined with glancing blows to get some random mitigation for basicly free. But thats quite an rate split. I think the numbers are kinda low. Prob should be minus 15 to max. get 3 spell block per overcaped block. Pathfinders using it with rumis is ugly AF. Rumi is so weak no matter what you do with it its not worth the flask slot. penta nerfed piece of shit flask. GGG grow balls and buff it back to 30 /15 and then we can talk. Sad how such a good flask got owned.
@toukoenriaze9870
Жыл бұрын
-10% and leave it at 2
@toukoenriaze9870
Жыл бұрын
Also gladiator buff: Maximum chance to block attack above 75 is added to spells too
@Ilyak1986
Жыл бұрын
Problem with block is just how trash rumi's is at this point. 12/6 block/spell block is just such a joke compared to the 40/20 or 30/15 it was at some point, along with the loss of so many block nodes from the tree. GGG clearly doesn't want this to be a good option for defense without *heavy* investment into it, which is why there's basically the Aegis + glancing blows + armor stacking option. And you don't even need to path to glancing blows--stick a large thread in the templar jewel and boom.
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