Here is your answer to the 8069 foot question. When printing the runways in the circles, not only are they aligned to depict the actual runway heading, they also represent the length of the runway. A very short runway will easily fit inside the circle whereas an 8000 foot runway extends almost to the edge of the circle. An 8100 foot runway would extend past the edge of the circle, which would make it just look like two half circles. They round the lengths to even 100 foot lengths for the purpose of printing these. But they don't round up at 50, they round up at 70. So, an 8069 foot runway would get rounded to 8000 feet and fit in the circle. an 8070 foot runway would get rounded to 8100 feet and wouldn't fit. I know this is a long answer, but it's the simplest way I could think to explain it. hopefully it makes sense.
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
Wow 🤯 how did you learn that? I’ve always wanted to know the answer to that
@nathanielmccarty3607
Жыл бұрын
That’s correct it has to do with the pixels available within the circles when they’re printed. 8,070 the pixels are just one too many to fit within the circles on the sectional.
@alukuhito
Жыл бұрын
Cool. I wonder why someone chose to round at 7 rather than 5 though.
@dwebb1518
Жыл бұрын
@@FreePilotTraining From the FAA Aeronautical Information Services FAQs: For purposes of airport depiction, specialists represent a runway between 7970 and 8069 feet in length as 8000 feet, which equates to a line 0.192 inches in length on the Sectional chart scale. In this case, a circular aerodrome symbol is used. If a runway is between 8070 and 8169 feet in length, specialists round to 8100 feet, which equates to a line 0.1944 inches in length on the sectional chart scale. This line is too long to fit into the largest circular aerodrome symbol FAA has available. Therefore, specialists place a line-work around the runway pattern forming a polygon (enclosed shape) for anything over 8069 feet in length. Specialists also place these polygons around the runway pattern of aerodromes with multiple runways that are less than 8069 feet, in cases where the multiple runway pattern does not fit into the largest, circular aerodrome symbol.
@jasonkimball7617
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great, simple explanation with all relevant details!
@Jomama_01
3 ай бұрын
I'm going through flight school pretty soon and i figured i'd check out a guide to VFR charts because they always looked scary. This definitely calmed me down a bit because it's not hard to read the map anymore. Still need to re watch and study them so I don't mess up. But damn I'd be lying if I said i wasnt scared about flight school. It's definitely the biggest thing i've ever done in my life and i want to give everything i have to succeed. Because I want to have a good future and secure a life for myself and future family. Sorry about the rant, im just terribly nervous and I needed somewhere to spew my feelings or it'd get in the way of my studies.
@FreePilotTraining
3 ай бұрын
You’re not alone. You’ll do fine. It will be tough at first, but don’t give up. You will wake up at some point and everything will just click
@kaushikccu
Жыл бұрын
Another great lesson. Easy to absorb and remember. With my FAA knowledge test looming in a couple of weeks, this is just the reference I needed. Thanks so much!
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m sure you’ll do great!
@Gman-sb3zf
2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much from your channel, it exceeds any of the knowledge I got from ground school and or my instructors. Keep it coming.
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing that! Thank you so much! I’m hoping to finish up another one in a few days!
@DMacDaddy
6 ай бұрын
Pretty scary actually … 😂
@livestock9722
4 ай бұрын
@@DMacDaddy For that reason, I'm actually considering becoming an instructor. Most young instructors are only there to put in hours and make a bit of money, and then leave halfway through someones training when they get a job offer.
@Tybell350
Жыл бұрын
I love your lessons, I start commercial flight school in 1 month and I love soaking in all of this information in hopes of making school a little bit easier. Thank you!
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy to have you here on the channel!
@literalnobody7921
Ай бұрын
It’s been over a year since you’ve made this comment. Has studying before starting your flight training been useful?
@Tybell350
Ай бұрын
@@literalnobody7921 extremely useful! I definitely had a leg up on the rest of my class during private pilot ground school. Finishing up my commercial license and multi engine as we speak!
@Teneshiab
6 ай бұрын
Explained clear as day. Thank you!
@FreePilotTraining
6 ай бұрын
No problem!
@hasantolgaucar8445
5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your wonderful content, sir. Thank you
@FreePilotTraining
5 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@allsizons3609
2 жыл бұрын
You are a star!
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@coreyjordan2745
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, excellence. I learned a lot.
@FreePilotTraining
6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@MyUganda256
10 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@FreePilotTraining
10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@RuvimAbaras
9 ай бұрын
Thank you
@FreePilotTraining
9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@paulcrooks3742
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Taking my test next week
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Good luck!
@johnchan6191
10 ай бұрын
Wow, that vdo was so educational. The best compare 2 other vdo's. Thx 4 sharing on Utube.
@FreePilotTraining
10 ай бұрын
Thanks John! That means a lot!
@zoozolplexOne
Жыл бұрын
cool !!!
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@seniorgolfer
2 жыл бұрын
Taken from the FAA Aeronautical Chart User's Guide: Runway length is the length of the longest active runway, including displaced thresholds and excluding overruns. Runway length is shown to the nearest 100', using 70 as the rounding point; a runway 8070' in length is charted as 81, while a runway 8069' in length is charted as 80.
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can’t believe I didn’t see that! Great comment!
@elijahryder313
Жыл бұрын
I think the random number has something to do with the scale length of the runway, above that number it becomes a drawn strip instead of one in a circle😊
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That’s super interesting
@21trips
2 жыл бұрын
Mile and a half plus 150 ft
@jasonpeters9295
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making me exercise my brain by doing some simple arithmetic and a little memory recall.
@grantbunker1755
3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you, can't wait for more. The 8,069 foot runway is strange. I'm very curious as to why. Hopefully someone answers
@FreePilotTraining
3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome! I’m cranking them out as fast as I can. I try to improve the quality in every video too so it takes a while. Lol. Yeah, I thought about googling it, but I’m sure someone here knows the answer
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
2 жыл бұрын
One guy said it’s about how they round up runway length to nearest 100. My guess as to why 8000’ length cutoff would be related to class of aircraft that can land there. Stopping distance and takeoff roll distance necessary for certain aircraft (Cessna, twin props, small jets, regional airlines, etc). I doubt commercial airline jets can use
@c.allanreitan6529
Жыл бұрын
8069 feet is 1.52 SM, so it is just slightly longer than 1.5 miles. It is also approximately 1NM + 2,000', which would make it 1 1/3 NM distance. On the Sectional charts, one minute of Longitude is approximately 1NM over the ground, so the 8069 length would correspond to a runway that spans at a minimum two ticks on the Longitude scale.
@chrisr6385
7 ай бұрын
The reason the upper limit is 8,069': The circumference of the airport circles on the charts are all the same size regardless of the length of the runway. 8,069' is the maximum runway length that fits within this circle in a chart (the runways on the chart are scaled to the circumference of these circles). Anything beyond this 8,069' would cause the scale of the runway to not fit within the circle. If the runway is over 8,069' it no longer is drawn within this circle. So it has to do with maximum pixels and scale that can fit within a specific circle 🔴 size on charts without going over.
@2oopb
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative lesson, just curious.. how would you advise someone who is ab-initio to remember all these stuffs? Practice?
@FreePilotTraining
9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! I don’t know what that is, but yeah, it just takes practice
@2oopb
9 ай бұрын
@@FreePilotTraining ah as in someone who has zero experience or starting from scratch.. because the chart looks like it is cobbled together with many various infos and patterns!
@Old-School-Aviator
8 ай бұрын
How do you know what type of airspace is?
@marktruesdale2613
2 жыл бұрын
How can I buy the checkmate laminated checklist you recommended.
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
You can find some of them on Amazon, but you can also buy them directly from checkmate here www.checkmateaviation.com/aircraft-specific-cards.html
@TheAvGeek-kl3zf
3 жыл бұрын
💖
@rong4248
2 жыл бұрын
It's because of the resolution of the printed charts I believe. 0.192" is as large as they can get to fit into the circle on the chart.
@jasonpeters9295
2 жыл бұрын
You guys leave me no choice. After viewing a number of your info-packed, no-nonsense, fact-filled, humorously-laced, instructional videos, I just have no choice but to . . . SUBSCRIBE!
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! 🙌🏻 see you in the next one!
@vad8339
2 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, the FAA sectional guide you linked shows page not found
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up! Looks like they updated it. Here’s the new one! aeronav.faa.gov/user_guide/20220714/cug-complete.pdf
@ronldp7185
Жыл бұрын
@@FreePilotTraining FWIW, that link is showing Error 404 - file not found. It's like they don't want us to find it!
@omarfaris8273
Жыл бұрын
I watched this video twice and I just realised that you were explaing my home airport SFB, and I live 8 minutes away from it.😂
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Small world!
@veronicajohnsen5999
7 ай бұрын
I learned it’s the longest they could depict because it’s to scale with the map.
@albertpollard9295
Жыл бұрын
"Runway length is shown to the nearest 100’, using 70 as the rounding point; a runway 8070’ in length is charted as 81, while a runway 8069’ in length is charted as 80."
@GreenGuyDIY
10 ай бұрын
By the way, the star before L means pilot controlled lighting. Not just that there is something unusual. Of course you may need to check the supplement to know the frequency because it is not always the same as CTAF. The supplement will also inform the control features such as how many levels, mic click count, etc.
@FreePilotTraining
10 ай бұрын
It doesn’t necessarily mean there will be pilot controlled lighting. I’ve seen fields that have the *L, but no Pilot controlled lighting. The legend says that it means “lighting limitations exist; refer to Supplement.”
@hmabboud
11 күн бұрын
@6:36 what is 9C, please?
@FreePilotTraining
10 күн бұрын
Runway 9 Center (the center runway)
@hmabboud
9 күн бұрын
@@FreePilotTraining Thank you! Any news about a VFR looking out side training? We still did not get one from you, sir :)
@taylorfire10
Жыл бұрын
Did my checkride today, and this is what failed me. Wish i came across this video prior.
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@garynnikki
5 ай бұрын
Here is the answer to your question: Runways up to 8,069 feet long are enclosed in the familiar circular airport symbol. But, according to the FAA’s Aeronautical Information Services, if a runway is longer than 8,069 feet the representative line is too long to fit into the largest circular airport symbol available.
@FreePilotTraining
5 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
@blue6980
Жыл бұрын
8069 ft = 2500 meters thats why I think
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
Ah, I never considered that
@blutowitz
4 ай бұрын
Your lessons are good but drawing white arrows on the chart to identify things you're talking about is very distracting. VFR charts are busy enough without added distractions.
@FreePilotTraining
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. My newer videos don’t use the hand. I hope to replace these older ones at some point
@misfittoytower
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are very helpful, well-thought out and clearly presented. That being said, that 'artist's hand' is really distracting and annoying. Nonetheless, thank you for the videos.
@FreePilotTraining
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to be a lot more conservative with the hand in my newer videos. You aren’t the only one to mention this
@survivalhealthandhealingtv5651
2 жыл бұрын
WAY TO FAST! SHOW AND EXPLAIN DETAILS MORE!
@FreePilotTraining
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@lestvee4948
6 ай бұрын
This is a good channel. But PLEASE STOP with the hand writting bs.
@FreePilotTraining
6 ай бұрын
Stick with it. I don’t use the handwriting anymore and I have plans to replace these older videos
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