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@Basement_CNC
4 күн бұрын
My guess (and experience kinda prooves that) is not to stop the WHOLE printer from moving, but to stop the printhead moving differently from the base... So fixing the base of the printer often makes things worse....I think you should get pcb-way to make you a solid 15mm plate instead of the extrusions wich the y rails are mounted to...and maybe add belt-tension (or bigger belts altogether)
@zihotki
4 күн бұрын
6dB is not small. The dB scale is logarithmic. Getting reduction in 10dB is insane.
@beauregardslim1914
2 күн бұрын
Isn't it logarithmic because human perception of sound is also essentially logarithmic? So if we are talking about how noisy something is, 6dB is noticeable but not huge.
@-n3rv1o43
4 күн бұрын
what about placing 3d printer on the concrete plate with soft corner peaces as CNC Kitchen showed?
@lausi772
4 күн бұрын
I actually like the way your little beast is jumping around 😅
@turtel5649
4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@brozu93
3 күн бұрын
yeah, put on your back for body massage
@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale
4 күн бұрын
Next just mount the printer to the wall or floor ze gainz.
@Reds3DPrinting
4 күн бұрын
I thought I was the only one to combine devil design and the hula feet together for ultimate stability!
@VolkanTaninmis
4 күн бұрын
Washing machine damper feets= 4 pack for 5 dolars. Gtfo
@skmgeek
2 күн бұрын
man i sure do hate when my washing machine vibrates at high frequency
@gregoryp203
4 күн бұрын
the analog for resonance is a weight with a spring. the hula has a spring as the TPU part. It adds another resonance to the system. Depending on the frequency and how the it can increase the vibration or decrease it. I would suggest adding some silicon oil that is used in RC car shocks to the thrust bearing. It comes in various viscosities for tunning.
@Anzyclos
4 күн бұрын
Have you considered rigid-mounting the frame? A fully mounted in Z rear beams, and lower Y and X beams would make sure the general frame would stop resonating.
@m.t-thoughts8919
2 күн бұрын
I think at one point its the belt system which is the issue. With flat bet linear motors, I think it may be better. Also at such high speeds, I would recommend a case 😅
@extrutim
4 күн бұрын
I don't think there is a printer that can put these feet to an even more extreme test. 😂
@Roetz40
4 күн бұрын
We'll see 😂
@lancereyesromero7811
4 күн бұрын
Ratrig Vcore 4 500
@mathiaschaves7604
3 күн бұрын
In your test setup aren't you measuring the vibrations that escapes the printer and are transmited to the table and air? If thats the case, these vibrations could be getting worst on the printer itself, don't they? I am starting to get deeper into this rabit role and i am designing a tuned mass damper to see if that can be a solution for 3d printers.
@cybernetix86
4 күн бұрын
I think you would need some sort of counterweight system to avoid vibration. Not sure how it could be done but a gantry on top of the printer but moving in a mirror way could do the trick
@HelgeKeck
4 күн бұрын
thats a moving video
@artemyevtushenko8722
Күн бұрын
scientific method means also attaching weights to no hula feet tho
@Duraltia
3 күн бұрын
What about bolting it to the Wall? 🤔 Can't add any more mass to the Frame than making it part of the Building 🤣 Or alternatively *_sandwiching_* it between two Concrete Slab Pavers sitting atop the Dampers 🤨That being said... What about printing Upside Down thus having the Moving Mass at the bottom on a printer resulting in less leverage over the frame to be thrown around?
@overcaffeinatedengineering
34 минут бұрын
Um, vibration isolation is NOT vibration reduction. The way to make the printer vibrate less is to *dissipate* the energy into its environment, not to reflect the energy back into the printer. The best way to absorb the energy would be to maximize how loud the table is when it vibrates, not minimize it.
@robertvangstad2740
3 күн бұрын
What if the bed and head separated? Two different frames. Amazing work!
@teewithmarie694
4 күн бұрын
the sound is insane holy it m,ade me realise what stresses r holy is the band used for movment being elastic a bottleneck for acuracy?
@zibingotaeam3716
3 күн бұрын
Why not use a shoggy sandwich? PC waterpumps have been cooled that way for decades now. You can buy all the components in most hardware stores and they are ridiculously effective at decoupling vibrations from the pump to the frame. If you're lazy, alphacool sells kits.
@Athiril
15 сағат бұрын
What if you add another axis that moves a counter weight to balance the vibrations out? You could use the existing XY output still in theory.
@rodsawhite
2 күн бұрын
Wow I love your content and I love the informative breakdown - my K3 with full alu sides was over 20kg - but man could you get the acceleration up there :)
@Scynide
3 күн бұрын
I made some of these for my K1 and they are an improvement over the stock feet. It is a small improvement, but there is definitely less ghosting. The best results I got were recalibrating input shaper after installing them. Bought the hardware kit that includes the TPU parts from Voxel and printed the rest myself.
@feilko2170
2 күн бұрын
Actually you should just clamp it to the table or heavy mount. The way the machine is swinging on the X & Y can lead to artifacts on the print surfaces.
@SirHackaL0t.
3 күн бұрын
This looks great. My A1 Mini used to move around the table until I put it on a silicone mat. Now it doesn’t wander off unattended.
@spotless1337
3 күн бұрын
If i wouldnt be so lazy i would have printed them arleady and slaped on my 70kg K3 to test.
@grfrog
3 күн бұрын
Nathan Builds Robots has a recent video on a counter weight motor that you might find interesting.
@dayumcraig7657
4 күн бұрын
will any version work with larger and heavier printers? e.g. Voron or Ratrig 500 ?
@onurcetinkaya4873
4 күн бұрын
I just screwed my printer to the wall. ( at the same plane where the movement is happening.)
@socar-pl
4 күн бұрын
pity... parts and filament is in great price but shipping to europe cost hand and leg.
@mahendradhungel8011
4 күн бұрын
Lets go first! Hi 24/7
@MumrikDK
3 күн бұрын
I really would have thought you just bolted it directly to a heavy table.
@killzonearmed
3 күн бұрын
Doesnt it need a counter weight for dampening the vibrations too?
@ventusprime
4 күн бұрын
it was informative video iam on not the speed side these days, I am on the silent front.
@free_spirit1
4 күн бұрын
This is of course blasphemy but personally I'd have multiple counterweights that go in the opposite direction of the tool and gantry. Not straightforward to do on a coreXY and it means doubling the required stepper power, but it's the ultimate way. You could probably even balance a coin on it at that point.
@3DWolfEngineering
4 күн бұрын
awesome!, might finally want to give them a go too ...
@nlkatz
4 күн бұрын
It looks to me like neither of the feet are giving a significant amount of damping, or for sure there would be bigger differences in the results. An interesting experiment would be placing the printer on two smooth sheets, one attached to the printer and one attached to the table, with different weights of oil or grease between them to provide viscous damping. Or actual cylindrical dampers with adjustable orifice size, measured at different settings to determine the optimum damping. And of course checks on print quality afterwards to see if it's even worthwhile doing. In order for that to be the case, the damping would have to reduce the ringing of the axis motions relative to the print bed, not just the motions of the frame itself.
@DiomedesDominguez
4 күн бұрын
Nothing beats four good quality squash balls, still better than the HULA.
@fanofentropy2280
4 күн бұрын
That is an impressive little beast. What jerk settings are you running at those acceleration speeds?
@247printing
2 күн бұрын
For SCV it's 50mm/s
@Mattvbro
3 күн бұрын
Why is the first 4 min an ad?
@3nreek4y
3 күн бұрын
put it in a bucket of sand
@3nreek4y
3 күн бұрын
put it in a bucket of sand
@meocats
4 күн бұрын
this has no effect on the shaper profile so its not damping anything
@naidta9802
4 күн бұрын
I was waiting for your next video! 🎉
@alessaaaaaandro
3 күн бұрын
4:38 what phone model is that?
@247printing
2 күн бұрын
It's the Red Magic 9 Pro from last video on V-Core 4 500.
@vladimirjar3800
4 күн бұрын
Is there a kit for that printer?
@voxelpla4457
3 күн бұрын
You can purchase the hardware kit and print the small adapter
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