Lol the classic "its not that crazy. It was just enough" line. Thats the new "Im natty".
@assafalpert1309
Ай бұрын
Yea it's amazing how every single retired pro suddenly reveals he never used a lot.. if it wasn't that much to begin with they'd look relatively similar to their primes and yet they all lose like 30-40 pounds when they retire🤣
@dontreadmyname4396
Ай бұрын
well he said not 2000mg of test
@user-yj8cy8pl1w
Ай бұрын
@@assafalpert1309 when you eat less calories you easely loose weight specially if you are crazy avanced like the pros are. That extreme physiques need perfect nutrition, genétics, sleep and rest, hard training and a right mindset 24/7. Thats a full time job and no joke, when they retire they start relaxing and stop pounding food every 2 hours and of course taking less gear. Obiously to life longer and enjoy life more. But still looking more jacked than 99% plus they dont need to proof them anymore to be the top 1 %. Look ex football player when they stop playing, suprisingly no one attacks them. Bodybuilder get so much hate from people who wanna look like them but cant. I think they miss the attention that Fitness athletes get plus they have some sort of selfhate. Bodybuilders are here to inspire and a mostly very nice people specially the pros
@H-qy2to
Ай бұрын
@@dontreadmyname4396because it's at least 5000mg 😂😂😂
@dontreadmyname4396
Ай бұрын
@@H-qy2to and what is your experience in the realm of steroid use?
@thomasspielman577
Ай бұрын
They all claim to have done miniscule doses.
@derekrushe
Ай бұрын
Well. You are listening to genetic miracles. They already have the framework to look amazing so they don't have to take insane amounts to put them over the edge.
@thomasspielman577
Ай бұрын
@derekrushe How do you know that though? How much is genetics and how much is steroid abuse? All we have is their word.
@derekrushe
Ай бұрын
@thomasspielman577 no we don't. We have the evidence of their bodies and the fact that so many gym rats now are on huge amounts of gear and never come close to having the physiques of these guys. Genetic outliers are in every sport and these guys are the genetic outliers when I comes to building muscle
@thomasspielman577
Ай бұрын
@derekrushe Yeah no 💩. What I'm saying is that we don't know how much these guys are on. It's impossible to know how much of it was their genetics because it all varies from person to person. It's not simply good genetics and bad genetics. It's a spectrum. Some of them could have incredible genetics and use a little bit of gear while the next guy has slightly above average genetics and used a ton of gear but they both claim to have elite genetics and used minimal gear. We don't actually know.
@derekrushe
Ай бұрын
@thomasspielman577 we know by their body composition. Victor, Phil, Ronnie et Al. Amazing genetics. Dorian didn't so he had to work harder than any bodybuilder before or after.
@cbbc2870
Ай бұрын
Dude doesn’t want a “manslaughter charge” giving the doses 💯 😂😂
@melvingibson4525
Ай бұрын
Victor looked very small when he got out of jail
@elliotthunter6226
Ай бұрын
When a pro BBer gors to jail hell shrink alot because everything that goes into it that ppl dont realize gets put on hold. If youre a drug user, who has no structure in life and eat whatever when ever...... those type of ppl usually get bigger when they go to jail. ( no street drugs, eating regularly, trainjng out of boredom , regylar sleep schedule. Ect.)
@wissawissa83
Ай бұрын
Whatever it was, it was still insane compared to a TRT dosage. Even a heavy TRT dosage.
@elliotthunter6226
Ай бұрын
Still.... higher doses need to be worked up to and theres no reason for an avg Joe to be copying an olympia competitors cycle. Would be like suggesting a guy who plays ball with his buddies at the rec centre copy Lebron James training protocol. Plain stupid
@RicardoLezama-db1sp
Ай бұрын
Juice heads always make it seem like they different.
@user-yj8cy8pl1w
Ай бұрын
Everbody is different my brother. Everybody react different to special supplements. Victor is special thats for sure. God bless
@MarkMeraji
Ай бұрын
They make it seem that way because they ARE that way. This idea that you can just slam grams of test and Tren and just get on stage to win is nothing but a cope. It’s like anything else…genetics are the biggest determining factor. The guys who want to sh!t on everyone saying it’s all gear gear gear know nothing about this twisted beauty pageant.
@esb1967
Ай бұрын
I used enough...THAT'S A WHOLE LOT... MY GUY...no I'm not gonna give you that 😅😊
@wisamsleiman3652
Ай бұрын
That's the new thing now I done only little 😊
@loves2smooch384
Ай бұрын
He never said that
@luigirnotyourbusiness8127
Ай бұрын
Victor a true mass monster and one of the greatest ever
@elliotthunter6226
Ай бұрын
Yes.... what is your cycle? Is so dumb. It wont give the person asking the same results and most likley would be inappropriate for that person. Jist like you wouldnt ask Viclts exact diet and follow it. Because theres a process in getting to that point. Also... the guy competed for decades. Had multiple coaches, off seasons, diferent phaaes of prep. Hes been injured, hes had rest periods, ges gained knowledge as he went along...... why the hell do ppl think they just do the same cycle indefinatly ? Drugs are somethjng thats constantly changing. Just like food and training program. When people ask me " whats your cycle" I dont answer cause I dont even know what they mean! Right at this moment? During my prep to turn pro? When I first started? When Im deep into an offseason? What rhe hell are you even asking??
@Steels247
Ай бұрын
You have to get ur tests and know your numbers. If someone knows their number, then they will know what and how much they can safely take to get the best benefits with little to no side effects, plus you can save money in the long run.
@S177YSMooTH94
Ай бұрын
Don’t care what anyone says, this is also considered being a drug addict.
@Arizonaclassics
Ай бұрын
Ok
@JD-xm3mg
29 күн бұрын
They all say that
@dylanjoseph9687
Ай бұрын
Ya okay bud . Similar to Rich Piana imo
@loves2smooch384
Ай бұрын
Well ones dead and the other is not
@dylanjoseph9687
Ай бұрын
@@loves2smooch384 cause he probably went off and just did test by itself without , tren , deca , dbol. 24/7
@chrismale9976
Ай бұрын
Not as much as everyone else lol
@Guido33336
Ай бұрын
There full of crank ..spit it out
@drroidhammer3218
Ай бұрын
😂😂 I’m not telling you how ridiculous my cycle was. Pfft Jay Cutler smoked ya for a reason 😂
@Gematrinator
Ай бұрын
Rich piana was the only respectable body builder in the game
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