Duelist1954 wanted to say 'hi' and that he sent me to look into your channel :)
@kentuckyshooter6721
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me here!!
@DreadtheMadSmith
8 жыл бұрын
"Samurai Sword" "Pirate Sword" "Roman Sword" "Cavalry Sword" (And to a lesser extent) "Knights Sword" It's easier to use layman's terms for people who don't know names/types and models/erras of swords by simply stating the warriors or people who used it. We are even inventing new ones as people become more knowledgeable through games and literature.
@danieltaylor5542
8 жыл бұрын
Watching Sir Matt talk about swords with a mention of Lloyd while eating leftover pumpkin pie. This morning is definitely a win!
@breaden4381
8 жыл бұрын
I was literally doing the same thing...
@IronRooRoo
8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Taylor Pumpkins are disgusting. Eat some real food, like a steak.
@breaden4381
8 жыл бұрын
For breakfast...
@stormelemental13
8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Taylor Pumpkin pie and turkey sandwiches for lunch. I love the week after thanksgiving.
@Uhshawdude
8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Taylor Sweet potato pie master race
@SarahExpereinceRequiem
8 жыл бұрын
...wait, is Viking a verb? To Vike, we Vike, rhey Vike, we are Viking. Vikology, the study of Viking?!
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+KatayokoNoTenshi Yes, to 'go viking'. Like 'go raiding'.
@SarahExpereinceRequiem
8 жыл бұрын
+scholagladiatoria mind blown.
@Beriorn
8 жыл бұрын
+KatayokoNoTenshi It's like hiking, but with a v. And longships and horned helmets.
@Zestrayswede
8 жыл бұрын
+zaco21 Yes. Viking was the old norse word for Sea raider/Sea raiding (something like that). Untill we modern people started calling all nords (Old swedes, norwegians, danes and eventually Icelanders) for vikings. And in that regard all Vikings truly are murderers, thieves, brutes and rapists. But in the modern sense every englishmen is also a descendent of the vikings (more or less) thanks to Jorvik (york) and the normans (descendants from vikings). If you need proof, well... you're speaking it: A mixture of anglish, saxon, celtic, old norse, french and latin with a some borrowed words from other languages.
@simondean5227
8 жыл бұрын
Nice spomgebob reference
@thiagodunadan
8 жыл бұрын
"That's my sword for going viking. That other one is my sword for fighting wars. And that one right there I use for self defense. Oh, that one right here is a very interesting one..." And there we have the viking nerd, who is really into collectibles.
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Thiago Monteiro lol
@Dasmaster1
8 жыл бұрын
This one over here is my favourite one in its vintage scabbard never drawn to protect its collectors value.
@thiagodunadan
8 жыл бұрын
***** That one was really missing from my comment. Hahaha
@higgins1812
8 жыл бұрын
+scholagladiatoria God forbid if anyone used a warhammer for a peacetime judicial duel. Or a battleaxe during a siege, for that matter. I'm looking forward to the new pedantically correct terminology =)
@olddirtbiker5088
4 жыл бұрын
Greetings by way of Duelist 1954. Good presentation.
@scoutdogfsr
4 жыл бұрын
Introduced to your site via Mike at Duelist1954. Very nice content.
@shadiversity
8 жыл бұрын
BUT WHAT IS IT'S NAME??!?!?! I've thought about this a lot and really feel Viking era sword or Scandinavian sword are more descriptions than names. I know they're adequate terms to identify this type of sword but I'm a bit too obsessive compulsive. Nearly all other swords have a single term to identify them and I really want a single term to identify this sword. So here are my suggestions. 1. Sverd, the old Norse word for sword. a sverd, he drew his sverd to smite his enemy. This kind of logic is already used in sword terminology, using the original identifying word for the type of weapon from the native language of that weapon's original users, Messer, the German word for knife. Kriegsmesser and Grossmesser mean war knife and big knife. So this type of terminology isn't anything new. 2. Spatha. A spatha is the longer roman one handed sword, the father or precursor to the Viking era sword. In design and form these swords are very similar, in some cases (the latter period spathas and early period Viking era swords specifically) are mostly identical. So are they actually the same type of sword? and if so, Spatha would be the true name.
@galankaufmann
8 жыл бұрын
+I am Shad I like your solution the best.
@BareFootClone
8 жыл бұрын
+I am Shad Sverd is the modern word for sword in Norwegian. In Norwegian we say Vikingsverd.
@shadiversity
8 жыл бұрын
+John Sun Nah, the point about giving swords names is to simplify the terminology and be more accurate, as Matt points out, viking sword is technically an inaccurate term. Viking period sword is more accurate but we were already dealing with too many syllable with just Viking sword. And again, viking sword is a description, not a name. So I don't think sverd or spatha is redundant at all because they both achieve more in description, simplicity and accuracy than 'viking sword'. We don't call the messer a German sword because a name is far better and easier at identifying a specific type of sword than a too long descriptive term.
@Imakebootysclap
6 жыл бұрын
ulfbert?
@slutslayer2646
2 жыл бұрын
@@shadiversity were u verified when u wrote this?
8 жыл бұрын
It is always a problem of nomenclature. Those could be called "Viking swords" if they were used only by Vikings in their activity,. But in fact those were used all over North Europe and were not specific to Nordsmen or Viking culture.
8 жыл бұрын
+Antonin Chenel About "all Europe", I am not sure. But let's say for the sake of the argument that this type of sword comes from Northern Europe and spread through European region with invasions. About the "Viking" culture, I don't see the incompatibility. Banditing is an activity, there is a "bandit" culture. A Nordsman can go "Viking" and identify himself to this activity. Like pirates, for instance. I feel that this point is rather irrelevant, technically. Note that I wrote "Nordsmen or Viking", to distinguish the two culture but if you want to read "Nordsmen culture and Viking activity", be my guest.
@fizikshizik
8 жыл бұрын
+Grégory Fleury The point Matt made was that most of the so called Viking swords actually were made in Frankish Empire. As I understand it originates from the traditions in the German kingdoms of the former Western Roman Empire based on the Roman era spatha. So it seems to me you put everything upside down.
8 жыл бұрын
fizikshizik It is **possible** it comes from Spata but yet one handed "longswords" were used by germans, slavic and sarmatian/skythian tribes way before being under the rule of romans and those spata were an evolution of those very swords. And Frankish came from the north, invaded France and then it was called "Frankish" Empire. And "Franks" were one part of the vast and wide german influence in North Europe. Those invading England were not Frankish were they ??? And teutonic tribes ??? Please try to refrain any tentative to look brillant if you don't know what you are talking about.
@fizikshizik
8 жыл бұрын
***** Are you always that agressive when someone dares to disagree with you? Yeah, spatha was originally not a Roman weapon but we are talking about much later epoch. I'm not saying about direct Roman rule but Roman influence penetrated deep into "barbarian" lands thanks to trade, raiding and service in Roman army. The same later with Frankish Empire. So the question is what was the proportion of imports? If there were a lot of imports from the Empire compared to indigeneous manufacture I think that would say that I'm right and you are mistaken. Of course if there were important manufacture centres outside Roman Empire that developed that very style of the sword distinct from spatha I'd say you are right and I'm wrong. Do you know any good refences on this? Of course I know who were the Franks. And they didn't come from some abstract "North". They definetely were one of the tribes that for several hundred years was under serious interaction with Roman Empire.
8 жыл бұрын
fizikshizik It is not a question of disagreeing, it is a question of humility in discussion. If you say that "I am sorry, I don't agree or I don't understand everything you say" I will answer properly. If you start saying that I am wrong based on your wet finger taking the wind with no argument at all except false facts and clearly showing that you don't try to understand but you wish only to BE right, then you'll have a different answer... It is common sense, really. You try to bitch me with small details on how I am sooo wrong saying that it comes from north while in fact, as you said yourself, we are talking about a much later era. Roman influance penetrated in germany and other regions where romans had no military forces nor occupation, nothing is wrong here. This influence is visible in the "migration era sword". Keyword : "INFLUENCE". It is NOT a spata, it was NEVER a spata, it is a germanic sword derived from spata like a french sabre is derived from slavic and oriental sabres but are FRENCH sabre. You can find all the sources you wish by yourself I don't have time to start to be hyper precise on every single affirmation I make just to please you, especially when I use wide words and wide concepts to be less precise to avoid any pointillous argumentation, and when we are talking about something so widely known even wikipedia can help any curious mind. If not, try myarmoury. It is called "Migration era sword" for a reason, you know ? Do you even refute the fact that it is widely a germanic sword ? "North" is just that. North of germanic tribe influence is only scandinavia. South of germanic triber influence is what was invaded later like France, Spain-Portugal, Itally, and all other regions like Greece and balkans, etc. ergo Germanic tribes came from east and north, what is wrong with that ? They had so called "migration era swords", what is wrong with that ? Why do you try to refute anything with so much strengh when it is part of the definition ? I understand youtube is a paradise for people wishing to be right with ridiculous arguments but I fail to see you as one of those people. Insisting those swords come from south is a huge error.
@jeffe.9904
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist 1954 says hello & he sent me here!
@docback63
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist 1954 sent me here to watch this video and say Hi.
@donnacorrell3527
4 жыл бұрын
Sent here by Duelist 1954. Actually, been here for years, but just to let you know, Matt, there is a crossover audience from Mike Belliveau's channel. As your channel is to swords and hand weapons, so is his to firearms, most particularly black powder firearms.
@87ggggyyyy
Жыл бұрын
me too!
@rogersmith9808
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative!! "Duelist1954" sent me here and I'm glad he did. Thumbs up and keep up the great work!!! :^)
@GunsNGasoline
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me here!
@MisterKisk
8 жыл бұрын
If you want to be even more pedantic though, the Petersen Type L sword, is commonly called an "Anglo-Saxon sword", but most swords found in England weren't even made in England either. The majority of blades seems to have come from continental Europe, in East and West Frankia (such as Ulfbert blades, which have been found in over 23 countries, and very few of them have actually been found in Frankia. There's such a large number of them that it can't be attributed to plunder, and the fact that there were Carolingian laws stating that the selling of sword blades outside Frankia was illegal, the very presence of such laws indicates that they were sold on a large scale. Much like Roman laws from generals forbidding their soldiers from fighting unsanctioned single combat with enemy combatants. Laws are created when the activity being prohibited occurs on a fairly wide scale). Most of these swords then appear to be hilted on a local level. The reason why some swords are called differently than their actual location of manufacture is primarily based on when they were first classified, without any real distinction of the political realities of where they were found. But weapons, like clothing, and hairstyles are subject to fashion. Swords of various styles were traded, stolen, and copied. The same issue is seen with swords found in the Migration era. They're often called "Migration period swords", but a significant portion are Roman manufactured swords, until later in the Migration era where swords with no Roman materials begin to appear. It's an uphill battle to fight.
@RC-kj2kj
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, very informative. Duelist1954 sent me.
@wolfpack2723
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me to see you! Thanks for the great info.
@wb1349
4 жыл бұрын
duelist1954 sent me here.
@richardpashos
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me.
@Zunbil
8 жыл бұрын
Good thing that sword has such a sizable fuller, otherwise you'd be hard pressed to get it out of a person after you stab them due to the vacuum.
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+NorwegianChris I know right. Dat vacuum, I hates it.
@adobo777
8 жыл бұрын
I'm always afraid for your ears when you hold a sword like that. :P
@CasparAbelmann
8 жыл бұрын
+adobo777 One day Matt will Van Gogh himself. :P
@BigIrish89
8 жыл бұрын
+adobo777 with ears like that im more afraid for the sword..:P
@CarnalKid
8 жыл бұрын
+adobo777 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HE LOOKS SO GODDAMN BRITISH!
@cygil1
8 жыл бұрын
Ok, then Katanas aren't really "Katanas", since in Japan, Katana is simply the word for "sword." We should call them "Nihontous." This is some hardcore pedantry here, in other words.
@MisterKisk
8 жыл бұрын
+cygil1 Even then that's not correct. Nihonto just means "Japanese sword", and considering that there are various types of Japanese sword, of which katana is one, it's not really proper. Tsurugi also means "sword". But it's a specific type of Japanese sword. In addition to that, yari, naginata, nagamaki, etc. are all considered Nihonto as well.
@cygil1
8 жыл бұрын
Kisk79 Well, OK, we have /no/ good word for a Katana then. A "tsurugi" is a straight sword. So I guess a "Katana" should really be called a "Nihontō-style sabre."
@MisterKisk
8 жыл бұрын
cygil1 We have a perfect word for a katana. That being "katana".
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+cygil1 So a 9th century sword made in Germany and only used by Germans should be called a 'Viking sword'? Really?
@WhereDoGangstersgo
8 жыл бұрын
+scholagladiatoria I must ask, is that Germany (as in the general area of today's country of Germany) or is it more specific Saxony?
@rotaman8555
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me here. Great video. Very informative.
@turbografx16
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me, but I was already here :)
@brianshoubert7803
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me here )))
@gijoe508
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 said this was a good video, obviously he was right
@trapperscout2046
3 жыл бұрын
I'm already subscribed to the channel, but for this particular video, Duelist1954 sent me. I love Mike's content and been watching his videos for about 5 years now. And I also like Matt's content as well! Both informative channels.
@J.T.Stillwell3
5 жыл бұрын
Hey there Matt. I was thinking of buying an arming sword that has a 29” blade. I am 5/7 and I’m wondering if that would be the right size?
@patrickbuchanan3421
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist 1954 sent me!
@Erkynar
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting point well made.
@P61guy61
4 жыл бұрын
Dualists1954 sent me here.
@ForgottenFirearm
8 жыл бұрын
Sure viking swords are real. "This is my hiking stick." "This is my viking sword." gg
@jacktraveller8290
8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about what characterises scandinavian swords from that period?
@DogsaladSalad
4 жыл бұрын
duelist sent me here 😈
@clifflee7461
4 жыл бұрын
duelist den sent me
@user-wh1st3hq9u
6 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, about where on this particular style of sword should the balance point ideally be?
@siegethelore219
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me!!!
@Pendraeg
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out and the well reasoned response. WRT to 1:35 in the video, that reminded me of the old TV commercials for the US Navy from back in the '70s - "it's not just a job, it's an adventure." ;) Weren't many of these swords actually manufactured by Franks? On a side note, not that I'm complaining, because it happens all the time and is a logical mistake to make, but my last name is pronounced like "heavens" with a voiced "ch" in front. As far as I can tell, it is a misspelling of the much more common Chevin(s), Cheven(s), Chevyn(s) or Chevon(s), which seems to be derived from the Brythonic word for "ridge" (cefn in Modern Welsh). The earliest example that I've been able to find of this spelling is from the marriage records in London in 1791 for David Cheavens and Elizabeth (no last name), who I assume are the same David and Elizabeth as my great great great great grandparents, whom US immigration records show in Philadelphia in 1793 after immigrating from England. Just a pedantic side note.
@datpolakmike
8 жыл бұрын
the semantics are strong with this one... seriously, with word games like this, you should be a goddamn politician
@SamFisher338
8 жыл бұрын
Matt, I was recently re-watching your "Vikings" TV series videos and your viking related videos in general. Could you direct me to some sources/bibliography about arms and armour from the period? I'm writing a paper on a related subject. Also, do you have any published research youself?
@conncork
8 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Irish ring swords.
@The_Gallowglass
8 жыл бұрын
+conncork Is ea!
@tobyoneil1969
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 anyone?
@willrowell3218
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me here
@althesmith
7 жыл бұрын
What we think of as "the Viking sword" was basically the same design used throughout Europe for 400 years. You had a good sword that was old- well, you didn't stop using it, you passed it down, because a sword that was still in one piece after a century was probably a damned decent piece of metal.
@Warlundrie
8 жыл бұрын
Kan we get a better glimpse of an viking era scandinavian sword and a describing of the sowrd, generall things we will find on one? I'm interested in getting one made and I'd love to know what it should look like and what's common for the swords of that era and location :) Cheers for the video
@DocLarsen44
4 жыл бұрын
Given my sir name, one would assume me to be of Danish or Norwegian ancestry. As it turns out, I am of Norwegian ancestry and, as such, have always been interested in anything Viking related. So, from this video, which I thoroughly enjoyed, I have learned that my forefathers used Scandinavian swords of the Viking era. I will accept that as your expertise is obviously far beyond my own in this area. So, do you present somewhere on your channel any examples of the Scandinavian swords of the Viking era? If, at some point, I pick a basket of muscaria mushrooms, jump into a long boat and set sail to go a viking, I would certainly want to do so with a proper, representative sword. According to deulist1954, you would, without doubt, be the man to make certain that I do so with the appropriate sword in hand.
@Wanderer_of_Sol
8 жыл бұрын
So can you show an example of a typical Scandinavian sword? I tried doing a quick Google and I only get results showing a Viking era sword, like the one in your hand, Matt. Now that you say they have distinct characteristics, I want to see one.
@stephenleach3110
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me. He thinks he has a Viking sword (He really needs to watch your channel)
@resurrectedstarships
5 жыл бұрын
So tell me - wouldn't the nature of the viking longship have some influence on their weapons, in the same way that a cutlass was preferred on ships rather than a rapier?
@jakenorman5371
8 жыл бұрын
I've been a long time viewer of your channel Matt, and I'm a little discouraged to see that a lot of your recent output has been basically addressing pedantry in one form or another, or reviewing various productsPlease produce more substantive content relating to the practice of HEMARegards
@fizikshizik
8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Norman Frankly I think that while talk about Viking as profession was nitpicking, the question of the manufacture place is quite interesting and I wish that Matt would concentrate on that instead.
@giuseppebiundo6356
8 жыл бұрын
So, what would be a typical sword used by people in Scandinavia who went viking during the viking era? I kept waiting for a picture to pop up and learn me some sword history.
@23561avatar
8 жыл бұрын
For those who are interested, you can Google this paper I found a couple of months ago: Valerie Dawn Hampton (2011), Viking Age Arms and Armor Originating in the Frankish Kingdom
@LewisSkeeter
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me here.
@Bahael
8 жыл бұрын
I would say that a "viking sword" is simply refering to swords that is depicted as used by the people who went viking. If I said "viking sword" to anyone they would understand what kind of sword I'm talking about, which is basicly the kind you're holding in this video.
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Mattias Broman The one I'm holding in this video is a replica of a Frankish sword found in Ireland. :-)
@Bahael
8 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Sure, I'm having problems conveying my point it seems. There is no exclusive "viking sword" as you say. But I would say that swords that look like the swords that vikings are often depicted with which have broad blades, short quillons and fancy pommels, would be called my the general population of earth as "Viking swords". The meanings of words change, and most people don't have much knowledge of vikings or any such thing. So that's why vikings are a people and viking swords are a thing. After this I'm just gonna stop trying. Can't figure out how to say it in a better way.
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Mattias Broman I get what you're saying, but I don't think it stands up, because it's based on modern misunderstanding and therefore should be corrected. There are hardly any period representations of 'vikings', as it happens. In contrast, there are thousands of representations of Anglo-Saxons, Franks, Lombards etc, using swords very like this.
@Jacob-Day
8 жыл бұрын
So that being the case; how much do swords of that time period tend to vary from place to place in terms of construction?
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Jacob Day Not much at all, it's more a matter of regional decoration.
@rogerwilco2
8 жыл бұрын
I am missing the word context is this context.
@Sam_Arwas
8 жыл бұрын
Any reason to use different words for 'viking' and 'marauding'? Can you go viking without doing any marauding?
@antocnl8345
8 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! It always bugs me when looking for documents/informations on the internet about VIII to Xth century swords (or other equipements as a mattter of fact) all I can find is the so called "Viking" stuff, even if the stuff is not scandinavian at all.
@Nickname-hier-einfuegen
8 жыл бұрын
So how to you distinguish between a German and Scandinavian viking era sword? Are there noticeable design differences?
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Nickname hier einfügen There are regional variations in type and decoration, yes.
@v13r3r
7 жыл бұрын
like a sniper rifle. A sniper is a specialized trained soldier for a particular set tactics and fieldcraft. Any rifle he/she uses is a therefore a "sniper rifle" but not every rifle is meant for sniping or sharpshooting.
@johndilday1846
4 жыл бұрын
Duelist1954 sent me. Nice video.
@danielbarnes8694
5 жыл бұрын
Where can you get good Nordic swords quality
@oditeomnes
8 жыл бұрын
So living next to an inlet (inlet/cove = vik in Norwegian) is an activity? If anything being a viking indicates that you are living next to an inlet, fjord or coast. Activity can be anything from fisherman and trader, to explorer or a raider.
@Curtislow2
4 жыл бұрын
Sent By duelist1954
@fabulousknight1960
8 жыл бұрын
I was always under the impression that "Viking sword" was just shorthand for the "Viking *age/era/period* sword", you yourself point out makes sense. Sort of like how you might say "late medieval sword" -- you would fully mean late medieval *period* sword.
@Saber2thFS
8 жыл бұрын
So what are the differences between a Viking era Scandinavian sword and a main land Europe viking era sword? And how can we know for sure the sword we're digging up in England wasn't a sword some Scandinavian brought over to go viking with, or a sword found in Norway wasn't designed after a Saxon pattern etc.
@CasparAbelmann
8 жыл бұрын
Have there been found rapiers used by Vikings? :P
@r669charger7
4 жыл бұрын
Good explanation of Viking Swords! Duelist1954 sent me.
@morten1975dk
6 жыл бұрын
In Scandinavia it's called a Viking sword..we also have a period called the Viking age. So the word Viking is used with all things from that period
@Barberserk
8 жыл бұрын
But, this replica you are holding, does it represent a Viking era scandinavian sword or not? :P
@bjarkow
8 жыл бұрын
"Time it is, to thank with action our great chief for good gifts. For German swords and Swedish shields. For red rings Rolf us gave." From the saga of king Rolf Krake.
@grinningchicken
8 жыл бұрын
Matt was that style of sword used for duels or battlefield or both?
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+grinningchicken It was used for everything, but nearly always with a shield.
@kyleflanagan963
8 жыл бұрын
So then what are some examples of swords that are specifically "Scandinavian" swords from the Viking era? What sort of hilt types and whatnot are commonly found in those areas? The only sword I know of, off the top of my head, that was found in Scandinavia was the Suontaka sword which I believe was found in Finland. I know that one because aesthetically it is my favorite sword ever. But 1 sword does not define a pattern and that one might be very atypical of Scandinavian Viking era swords for all I know.
@k03dikr
8 жыл бұрын
Cheers from the historical region Viken. (To add another theory to the mix. Due to the lack of written sources from dark age Scandinavia I think it's hard to find a definite answer to the origin of the word).
@TheMiseriaCantare
8 жыл бұрын
I always though, that this type of sword is called "Carolingian-era sword". Am I wrong?
@lili-qt9uo
6 жыл бұрын
why about the brand Ulfberht sword ??
@normanknight2923
8 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this has been answered, but is there any particular reason why the crossguard never became pronounced until the high middle ages? Seems the finger amputations would have made some smith catch on that a larger crossguard would be better.
@breaden4381
8 жыл бұрын
The similarly sized cross guard and pommel could have been used to brace the shield. They also tried to to expose there hands or parry with the sword.
@gerryedwards1174
8 жыл бұрын
Matt's covered this, but a while back. While swords were used with shields mostly, the protection for the hand was supplied by the shield, but as swords became used more on their own more complex and larger guards ddeveloped.
@gottfriedosterbach3907
8 жыл бұрын
I started to write and you ended up covering almost everything I was going to say. If you want "Viking" you should focus more on hilt design just like some of the typologies do since they were often far more regionally distinctive than all but a few blade types. While studying blade characteristics can be quite interesting, it is also quite generically European in most cases and the interesting details rarely have to do with anything regionalized.
@davidbradley6040
8 жыл бұрын
Its like people calling the cutlass a Pirate sword: both accurate and inaccurate at the same time.The sword was used for going viking/ pirating.
@Gilmaris
8 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they are popularly called "viking swords" rather than "Frankish swords" or "German swords" is precisely because it refers to the viking _era_ rather than activity. And "viking sword" takes less time and effort to say than "viking era sword".
@dmytroy
8 жыл бұрын
As an actual "viking" meaning a guy getting on a boat somewhere in Norway heading down south to loot and pillage how high on you list of priorities would the sword actually be? Shield? must have Spear? must have Sword? If only we could know what the prices were then because to me a mail seems like it would be a far superior investment.
@MPGunther1
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, interesting video. Dualist1954 sent me to check you out
@nathanbrown8680
8 жыл бұрын
There is a type of thing commonly called a viking sword. The pattern may or may not originate in Scandinavia, but was common there. As you pointed out in your first video on that sword, it isn't one. It's based on Frankish models. What I notice is that your Frankish sword would not work for Roland Warzecha's shield bracing technique because the pommel is shorter than the guard. It's also my understanding that the Franks used conical shields more. In common parlance viking is treated as a collective term for the people of Scandinavia and Denmark during the viking eras. The Saxons and Angles are from that region, making the anglo-saxons vikings as the term is commonly used in modern English. It's not how the term was used in Scandinavian languages during the viking era, but English has a long history of changing the meanings of the words it steals. Just as we specialized animal terms to live animals or to meat we repurposed viking to refer to a people instead of an act because we already had words for the act. It wouldn't be a very useful word or worth stealing if we were just going to leave it as an exact synonym for raider, would it?
@nolankasa8219
8 жыл бұрын
So if that isn't a Viking era Scandinavian sword then you should do a video showing us an example of a Viking age Scandinavian sword
@erikgranqvist3680
8 жыл бұрын
A thought that's somewhat spread in Scandinavia, is that you werent a viking at all. you went to do viking. That meant raiding, trading and the such in a ships team. Another word was "ledung". The way I've unterstood it, this was about war. And to some extent the way military forces were built up in those day, A third word is, of course, "Volvo". That has nothing to do with anything in this matter.
@seklay
8 жыл бұрын
Great video! You should consider getting a better microphone setup btw.
@CarnelianUK
8 жыл бұрын
I watched the first episode of ITV's Beowul last night. It gets some things 'right' - some of the guys have swords with viking-era style hilts, and there are some guys who have padded gambeson style outfits, and in colours other than black or brown no less. But then there are the inevitable black leather n straps outfits. Beowulf's Conan-esque sword. That ridiculously oversized double-bitted axe in the intro. The guys with brylcreemed Tintin style haircuts. The weirdly thin dustbin lid shields. The pathetic excuse for a thatched roof in the smith owner's bedroom... When are we going to get an indepth Easton rant on these things?!
@57WillysCJ
8 жыл бұрын
As I mentioned on Lindie's video to go viking is akin to go pirating or privateering. The latter didn't just have ship to ship battles but looted cities when it was possible and profitable. By the same token those being looted labeled the nations that the pirates were from as pirates. So Hawkins and Drake were vikings. People still mislabel others today. Most English call all Americans Yankees except that only pertains to New Englanders. I assume that comes from the majority of early merchant sailors being from New England. Nowadays it is akin to calling people from Northumberland Cornish.
@Themysterymove
8 жыл бұрын
I've heard the "Ulfberht" swords, when analyzed, came from a variety of places. Some were made even as far away as Persia. There used to be a documentary on them on youtube, but I can't speak for the accuracy.
@bakters
8 жыл бұрын
+Themysterymove Persia? And they used Latin alphabet plus a Christian cross sign? Very weird idea, at least to me. From what I read Ulberht swords came from somewhere in modern Germany, within Frankish realm. Cross suggests it was a manufacture ran by an abbot or a bishop. That makes some sense to me, but of course it's based on evidences, not proofs.
@Beriorn
8 жыл бұрын
+bakters From what I've read cheap copies were made back in the day, making them the viking equivalent of cheap katana knockoffs made for weeaboos (weeaborks?).
@bakters
8 жыл бұрын
Beriorn I don't think there is much reason to consider any Ulberht sword to be obviously an original or an obvious copy. I wouldn't be surprised if some were forgeries, it's just that we can't tell which ones. Anyway, whoever faked an Ulberht sword, he faked most probably a Frankish-German original.
@Themysterymove
8 жыл бұрын
bakters It's something about the steel. It's of the same quality and type that you find in the northern Persian smithies, an area documented to have had trade routes with "viking" lands. So while the originals are from Germany, there's others that are suspected to have been ordered from afar using the allegedly better steel. That was the gist of it. The amount of ass I've put into this research is not even one cheek. Just remembering a part of a documentary on medieval weapons I watched once. I figure other people might be more familiar with the topic.
@bakters
8 жыл бұрын
Themysterymove People used to think that Ulfberht swords were of Scandinavian origin, because they were mostly found there, but upon closer examination it does not make much sense. Ulfberht swords are usually found in pagan burials all over Europe. Once some place became Christianized the finds dry up immediately. Anyway, it's possible that some Ulfberhts were made with imported Persian steel, or it's also possible they were made of similar type of steel produced locally. It's gonna be quite hard to tell one way or the other, because back in those days people could not get the same results every time, especially during a production line spanning centuries. Me personally - until there is a good reason to believe in imported steel, I'd assume it was made from local stuff. The whole sword being made in the Middle East? Not exactly impossible, but that's as far as I'd go.
@joelmuller358
8 жыл бұрын
A fair comparison would be a "crusader sword" I think.
@Aragorn195
8 жыл бұрын
Could you call it a Norse sword? Or would that be wrong aswell?
@tsgillespiejr
8 жыл бұрын
I have *had* it with these motherviking swords on this motherviking plane!
@The_Gallowglass
8 жыл бұрын
+standingunder You tried. A for effort.
@tsgillespiejr
8 жыл бұрын
Ó Slatraigh Sounded better in my head...
@The_Gallowglass
8 жыл бұрын
standingunder :D
@SevenDayGaming
8 жыл бұрын
Hey, out of curiosity, what model is that? Is that an Albion Vinland?
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+AVMUploads Clontarf
@SevenDayGaming
8 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Well, it's a good thing you corrected me, because I am looking at them right next to eachother and I cannot tell the difference. I must be missing something.
@higgins1812
8 жыл бұрын
+AVMUploads Narrower pommel and slimmer quillons. Google for Petersen's Typology.
@drach420
8 жыл бұрын
I don't put too much into labels, but just for fun... by this reasoning, would the term "cavalry sabre" be a misnomer as well? I.e. the sword does not change as soon as a guy gets on a horse! :p As always, thanks for the great videos!
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Toby Hall Cavalry sabres are different to infantry sabres - they are longer and heavier in general.
@RobKinneySouthpaw
8 жыл бұрын
Kind of like there's no "Pirate Sword". Sure a lot probably used a standard Navy cutlass, but it's not as if one signed up and was issued a special-purpose official "pirating sword".
@PieterBreda
8 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that when the French invaded England, they were using Viking Swords and King Harold didn't get an arrow in his eye, but somebody screwed off the spikey pommel of his Viking Sword and threw it at poor old Harold. But of course, Matt will insist that the French didn't invade England and there weren't any Viking Swords. Sorry, my mistake.
@DylanSwayneHughes
8 жыл бұрын
i feel people keep critiquing the language issue when really the terminology isnt the key information in this video, its just a way to get to talking about the sword type and where its from which is interesting in itself. :)
@scholagladiatoria
8 жыл бұрын
+Dylan Hughes Maybe, but calling a Frankish sword found in Ireland 'a viking sword' seems very misguided to me. I'd prefer 'dark age sword'.
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