OH MY GOD SO SOON AFTER THE LAST EPISODE???? LETS FREAKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@crossr1984
9 ай бұрын
Must be Christmas!
@makingnoises2327
9 ай бұрын
really excited for the prospect of you reviewing whole blocks in a single session and editing that into 3 episodes per month, sounds like a much more satisfying schedule than once every 4-6 weeks
@TheEvolver311
9 ай бұрын
UR counter burn tempo deck featuring Man-o-War was the first deck I piloted to the semifinals at a little store called Star City Comics and Games
@targetplayer
9 ай бұрын
Visions had a distinct though unkeyworded theme of returning permanents, usually lands, to their owner's hand as a cost (Infernal Harvest, Flooded Shoreline) or tool to balance rate (Waterspout Djinn, Bull Elephant, Undiscovered Paradise). Additional examples include the five Karoos, Stampeding Wildebeests, Shrieking Drake, Quirion Ranger, and Ovinomancer. Summer Bloom was a savvy design to include in the set as a way to rebuild your bounced resources. Fireblast was likely designed this way and then changed from bouncing Mountains to sacrificing them after the former proved too strong.
@JD-gk7eh
9 ай бұрын
Fireblast bouncing Mountains. Yikes. Tap for 2, Incinerate, bounce them for Fireblast, replay a Mountain, Bolt. 10 damage on turn 3. Probably game over. And before anyone says "But you could require the Mountains you return be untapped!" I mean you can, but then the spell just costs RR payable by Mountains only. So that's not a fix, it's just Char without the 2 damage to you and at one less mana.
@Ian-ig4ho
9 ай бұрын
Releasing this during my 6 hour road trip = Christmas miracle
@penguinlust6749
9 ай бұрын
You mention the commons appearing on the rare sheet -- depending on where the cards were printed these were different cards. Also, the way they were included in the packs, it made them less common that the other commons. Finally, one of the cards was more common than the others as it was 7 cards distributed amongst 50 slots. I think this, at least, was the same in both the U.S. and Belgian printings -- Sisay's Ring. There are plenty of pack opening videos on youtube that contain one or the other type of pack. The version you list is the Belgian printing. The U.S. printing was Phyrexian Walker, Sisay's Ring, Python, Inspiration, Warthog, Goblin Swine-Rider, and Infantry Veteran.
@EbonAvatar
9 ай бұрын
We're getting sooooo close to Tempest, the point where a young Ebon Avatar started playing Magic. I can't wait. Gimme Tempest now!!!
@jenniferwilliams9612
9 ай бұрын
Tempest block is when I started playing competitively, I still love my good old Sligh deck!
@EbonAvatar
9 ай бұрын
@jenniferwilliams9612 what a time to be a Magician that was. To this day Sliver Queen is still my all-time favorite Magic card
@jenniferwilliams9612
9 ай бұрын
@@EbonAvatar I fell in love with Tolarian Academy that next fall! I played that deck at the state championships and a JSS qualifier! And it became my favorite card. Before that, it was Ball Lightning, and Fireblast and Incinerate, and Shock, (Bolt was gone by then) and so many more… I love the Tempest/Saga era of Type II
@kaylee42900
9 ай бұрын
Weatherlight and tempest are my jam.
@bryanbiscoll5519
9 ай бұрын
Love the Nordiques hoodie!
@LordJaroh
9 ай бұрын
One little tidbit was Dark Visions was a big thing as well. There were some printings of Visions where the Black Ink was extremely over-done, leading to some dramatically over-dark cards. I owned a couple of these opened from packs. Warthog was a very dark common I had, and my pride and joy was a Vampiric Tutor that was extremely dark. I also had a dark Natural Order, although it wasn't as dark as the Warthog.
@L1ttleWarrior13
Ай бұрын
Teferis puzzle box (one of the later printings) was the first rare that I looked at and said, Wow, this card is so cool, and it cemented my love of magic. Might be my favorite card of all time
@jenniferwilliams9612
9 ай бұрын
15:48 I will never forget the day that I saw the spoiler for Skullclamp on Wizards website before the darksteel prerelease…. It was shortly after midnight, and I went upstairs into my Mom’s office shortly after midnight to look at the new spoiler. I saw Skullclamp for the first time, and I read it, and then I stared at it. Then I read it again, and I started blinking, unable to believe my eyes. Then I read it a third time, and I said aloud, “That gets banned! They’re going to ban that card! That gets banned!” Call me Cassandra on that little bit of prescience.
@deeterful
9 ай бұрын
Speaking to poison counters from back in the day; poison was a small, niche, and hard to pull off alt-win-con. Which back then were few and far between, so pulling of a poison counter win was a boss move. I must have tried four or five different deck designs and color combos. There’s a contingent of Magic players who love doing obscure things in the game (I’m on of those), and poison was a great mechanic for that demograph. And in our opinion, Infect made poison counters go the opposite direction, now it’s one of the “try-hard” mechanics.
@LordJaroh
9 ай бұрын
It was also on pretty terrible creatures which made it doubly hard to do successfully. I had my poison deck back in the day, and loved it, when it was hard to pull off. I did not like Infect at all. It became too easy to use.
@Lightning_Lance
2 ай бұрын
I have a soft spot for Man-o'-War because in Duels 2012 I once won a game with easily the worst deck in it by making Man-o'-War bounce itself so I could replay it multiple times over multiple turns with Warstorm Surge out to slowly keep their board down and eventually burn them out. It's really fun when you discover such an incredibly janky combo and it happens to win the game. Also it's just a fun and efficient design of a card. And I like the older art with the shark
@SimplySimonLP
9 ай бұрын
It was very interesting to learn that Visions started as Mirage 1.5 - I started playing in 2003, way after these sets came out, and what Patrick said is absolutely true: countless times when looking back at those old cards, I have confused Mirage and Visions. "The African ones with phasing".
@duncan6972
9 ай бұрын
I'm guessing from the end card that you guys aren't going to cover Portal? That makes me very sad :( If I'm mistaken and a Portal episode is after 5ED that would be great!
@tunczyk110
9 ай бұрын
portal came out after 5e, I trust they're going to cover it
@christopherlundgren1700
9 ай бұрын
lol Patrick bags on Vampiric Tutor in Commander but offers up City of Solitude, the card that locks out all interaction. I’ll tell you right now, the only time I’m casting that card is immediately before wiping the whole table with my instant win combo.
@brianschmitzer6722
9 ай бұрын
Best M:tG series on KZitem.
@DrJambonius
9 ай бұрын
"Le but d'Alain Côté était bon". Nice video guys, you give very interesting and detailed information one set at a time. Most of the time, even though I was there a almost every set release since 1994, I didn't even know half of the content what you present us.
@ScottieScottie-uw4xs
9 ай бұрын
So pumped to watch this. Visions is my favorite set of all time with the way it really started to lean into haste/ETB effects to make creatures impact the game state the turn they were summoned. You guys do such a great job with every set. Please keep up the excellent work!
@CleazyMane-ef2cg
9 ай бұрын
This goes perfectly with my morning routine today!! Thanks guys, this series has been awesome!!
@paulmaurice4491
9 ай бұрын
I loved this block! Very underrated.
@scythe0925
9 ай бұрын
Props for the OG Nordiques sweater!
@DrJambonius
9 ай бұрын
I wrote a comment separately, but i'll write it here too: "Est-ce que le but d'Alain Côté était bon?"
@olio16
8 ай бұрын
Probably my new favourite magic content. So many good hours of watching.
@tfh535
9 ай бұрын
I have really been loving these. I really hope you guys cover MTG Vanguard!!
@bradlesbradly8257
9 ай бұрын
I really liked the addition of talking about notable cards in trivia that don't fit the awards. I just love to hear you both riff about cards that are unique/interesting
@horseshoecraft
9 ай бұрын
Mirage was my first set so Visions was very formative in my start playing magic. The amount of good cards available at common rarity made it easy to put together a competitve deck and not feel like it was a pay to win game.
@_eldub
9 ай бұрын
Visions was awesome to play with and I still love it. Yall are harsh, great magic cards straight up
@nicholaskane4693
8 ай бұрын
Loved Patrick's rant about vampiric tutor, I feel similarly about unconditional tutors in causal EDH
@bekeleven
9 ай бұрын
My favorite piece of "Charms tech" was vision charm as a way to remove batterskull. Then when they wanted to print Teferi's Protection into C17, someone had a looksee at the old phasing rules and went "It does *what* with tokens?" and suddenly vision charm stopped seeing play. Ah well, at least blue mages (And Patrick) still have piracy charm.
@kaylee42900
9 ай бұрын
For these older sets it would be cool if, perhaps as a secondary video, you looked at what inquest named the top 10 cards in the set and then talk about how that played out in standard and limited. It's just cool to see how the best knowledge at the time played out vs. contemporary sensibilities.
@tcgdude
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@mountainwalk
7 ай бұрын
PSully's hippo sounds is worth the price of admission.
@ExtraVictory
9 ай бұрын
KZitem this is a great video you want more people to see it trust me
@jedrzejkraszewski816
9 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video as usual, but I wish that a bit of a story/flavor segment still appeared. Sure, the characters and setting are the same as in Mirage, but the final showdown against Kaervek occurs, Mangara is freed, and the story concludes, making space for the Weatherlight saga that starts with the next expansion set. Maybe it's a pity that no legendary cards appear in Visions, that way the story is less tangible than in Mirage. I did expect higher scores - I started with Fifth Edition and back then Visions cards seemed weirdly powerful, though maybe unjustly so in retrospect. Can't wait for the next set reviews.
@TheGregoryodd
9 ай бұрын
Loving the nordiques hoodie
@christechentin4944
9 ай бұрын
I’m just happy every episode reminds me to relisten to summer in abbadon.
@terminalspines
8 ай бұрын
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how crazy of an animal Hippos are? If I lived a long time ago had never seen a hippo, you could probably convince me it was some sort of prehistoric thing that only used to exist.
@karlk5801
9 ай бұрын
1:12:36 I like how the water in the River Boa art blends into the card frame so it looks like an infinity pool falling over the front of the card. 1:18:46 Is Gossamer Chains even good? It's basically like having a tapper that costs 2 mana to use.
@WhereIsTheIntruder
9 ай бұрын
An early christmass present. Thank you so much
@kaylee42900
9 ай бұрын
Cedric losing it at Jitte was some awesome.
@hermodnitter3902
9 ай бұрын
Shoutout to Tithe, the most underplayed card ever, can fetch up to two lands with plains type (yes: duals and triomes). Even the art is great!
@WLDFLD
9 ай бұрын
The idea of a new set needing a unique mechanical identity is a modern concept. Sets didn't used to be designed that way, and I'm not convinced they needed to be!
@frosty980
9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that edhrec data can be thrown off by cEDH lists which are disproportionately posted online. Most people’s casual deck lists aren’t posted anywhere.
@garyhickman1088
9 ай бұрын
love the nordiques hoodie
@dingdongs5208
9 ай бұрын
Being an elves player I am a bit biased towards the set, Natural order is probably the non creature spell I've cast most in my life time so I was hoping for a slightly higher grade haha! Fantastic episode nonetheless and looking forward to the next one
@Pineappple_Juice
9 ай бұрын
My heart can't take it! Love it!
@GuyIncognito575
9 ай бұрын
I built a lot of mono red decks featuring Kookus and Keeper of Kookus, even though young me could already recognize that this wasn't really a good use of my mana.
@Pigzit
9 ай бұрын
Late night drop hitting so hard, guess I'm gonna be up for another hour and a half
@alainbelanger9852
9 ай бұрын
Love the Quebec Nordiques shirt 👍
@bwellstv4927
9 ай бұрын
griffin canyon's artist is Griffin. Love it
@85mcarnold
9 ай бұрын
44:57 I know what Cedric wants for Christmas.
@memyself3510
6 ай бұрын
That card visions, which id never seen before, by no means am I saying it’s good but it’s interesting, seeing a card in white that gave that kind of card selection especially for that time
@jareddoucette7193
9 ай бұрын
These grades are lower than I expected. Visions is full of great playable cards
@Malkavon
9 ай бұрын
Resleevables: After (The) Dark!
@andrewdavis3291
9 ай бұрын
I know the hosts love World Enchantments, so I was a bit disappointed to not hear a Pillar Tombs of Aku rant.
@Jlizard27
6 ай бұрын
Marx and a Raekwon biography on the shelf? A man after mine own heart.
@joelreschke6200
9 ай бұрын
The other excellent part of Griffin Canyon is that the art is done by Stuart Griffin
@simoncss1
9 ай бұрын
Was bout to ask if the crew noticed it. Sharp eyes, Joe
@barrywade3774
9 ай бұрын
I had my only tournament win with a Chronatog Stasis lock deck (with Kismet) shortly after Visions came out. Just deck them by skipping all my turns!
@domri4203
9 ай бұрын
I used to put Rancor on River Boa.
@cicciarello4
9 ай бұрын
city of solitude is my favorite magic card.
@Guibod12
9 ай бұрын
Thanks Patrick for the Vampiric Tutor rant. You are right man. Tutoring tries to add consistency to an unconsistent format. That’s not desirable.
@tunczyk110
9 ай бұрын
no carnival of souls award for juju bubble? I'm starting a riot at resleevables HQ, fr
@HessianHunter
9 ай бұрын
River Boat spent years as a mainstay in Pauper as a tech piece against the dominant mono-blue delver/fairies deck.
@penguinlust6749
9 ай бұрын
This is a tough one. I gotta think about it. The physical printing problems and quirks of this set were so numerous it's probably skewing my memory of it. For now a 6. Won't get to watch the episode for a week as I'm on the road and get viewing time in very short spurts. I'll see if you agree then. Keep up the good work -- looking forward to this one.
@penguinlust6749
9 ай бұрын
At least we agree. Worth waiting. It was Mirage Pt 2, and that was a good set, so this was too. This story was good ... Weatherlight might have been the hokiest they ever did, but that's for next episode.
@RobertTheSmall
9 ай бұрын
16:07 filthy commander player reporting in; I wish this did work in the rules at the time because it's significantly cooler than how jitte is now Edit: 1:14:16 Bonesplitter on Riverboa might now be permanently etched into my lexicon now 1:17:25 Patrick gets it 🥲 tbf cedh is a different thing where it's understandable, but the spirit of the format is understood
@joncrook2537
9 ай бұрын
Two cards that didn't get mentioned that I remember people being extremely hyped for at release was Aku Djinn and Archangel.
@tmille171
9 ай бұрын
I don't think competitive players were excited for Archangel, but yes it was a sought-after casual card for sure.
@tristanbeaumont8048
9 ай бұрын
Elephant grass in legacy enchantress is good
@abbiemcdaniels3122
6 ай бұрын
Didn’t mention the final part of the Uktabi Orangutan cycle, Kibo Uktabi Prince in Jumpstart 22
@creamabdul-jabbar
9 ай бұрын
oh man i forgot about hunted wumpus, i loved that thing.
@andrewvitale7295
9 ай бұрын
Just want to throw it out there that Ovinomancer is pretty decent with Mairsil, The Pretender in EDH
@Hababa7
9 ай бұрын
Out here pumping.
@JEHNLEROY
9 ай бұрын
Patrick looking like a bomb pop
@Babyboots1
9 ай бұрын
Didn't you just do mirage? It's a Christmas miracle!
@madmauller2666
9 ай бұрын
wake up people time to resleeve adn get the algorithm! pumpin p.s. ive seen this man do the best cartwheel ever
@calvinball1
5 ай бұрын
The old card layout sells the fantasy so well of being a magician and having scraps of parchment with a visual portal into a world that has crazy creatures and spells. Plus the thick borders make the card feel like a more solid object. To me, the modern card layout and design just kind of looks like it's trying to be a video game heads up display. It just doesn't really sell the fantasy of what we're doing.
@KellyUnekis
9 ай бұрын
I am seriously considering Time and Tide in one or two of my blue splashed commander decks to troll people's Teferi's Protections
@nickfanzo
9 ай бұрын
You guys should play some games from these old formats!
@jennietsai1260
9 ай бұрын
Hearing Cedric talk about how Visions released on MTGO when he was in college is insane to me, because that set came out when I was 2 years old and I’m in college now!
@jenniferwilliams9612
9 ай бұрын
1:03:54 Let’s just say that at the time, my local game store was frequently filled with people saying, “I will cast s3x monkey to destroy your artifact.” Because even though all of the other players were older than I was, I was the one who was more mature…
@Syaska
9 ай бұрын
I can see Kaervek's spite being bad in a Type 2 set. It was a super fun card to play in Type 1.5 Sui Black just to give black some (very flavourful) burn.
@anthonypreville9345
9 ай бұрын
love it
@joelfrancis5225
9 ай бұрын
My Holiday Fix
@bengolan8641
9 ай бұрын
Just finished taking my midterm exams and wanted to go to bed after a long week. Guess its gonna be another ninety minutes
@kateslate3228
9 ай бұрын
Pumping that ALGORYTHM.
@EltWilder
7 ай бұрын
Vizzy vizzy vizzy, you can see.
@Anamchara32
9 ай бұрын
you gotta get eugene to come on the show, he's a legend
@jenniferwilliams9612
9 ай бұрын
1:09:38 I mean…. IDK, I think that Juju Bubble is worse than both Time and Tide and Maptopi Golem.. I mean, cumulative upkeep, and if you play any card, you sac it, and the big effect that Juju Bubble can do…. Pay 2 mana, gain 1 life!…. I think that we have a winner!
@seantracy6452
9 ай бұрын
Late night drop you love to see it
@kaylee42900
9 ай бұрын
instant speed discard is so messed up. I only played with it via mardu charm and k-command but wow.
@hansoskar1911
9 ай бұрын
Goblin Recruiter is nothing like Top. Top makes games take forever. Recruiter makes games end within the next turn cycle.
@shorv
9 ай бұрын
i hope you're spelling charlie catino wrong on purpose lol. that's some inside baseball.
@mymoviesbetter8466
9 ай бұрын
I skullclamped my buddy recently in a game and it still feels great
@mygoodnessmyguiness
9 ай бұрын
"Tutoring seems to be pretty antithetical to the spirit of the format" - yes. Yes it is. I think commander is a very different game to what it was 15 years ago. Not entirely worse but a lot of groups play with highly optimised and powerful decks. It's kinda sad what precons and metadeck sites have done to what the format meant to me but, ultimately, if folks are having fun then all power to them. For me though some of the enjoyment is in having a different experience every time i play a deck. I do think conditional tutors can be fun based on theme or art etc but In casual games of edh vampiric/demonic tutor can straight up get in the bin.
@simoncss1
9 ай бұрын
1:17:40 Pat Sulli: “This card (Vampiric Tutor), being #1 on EDHrec, is an indictment of the people who play Commander” Total savagery of a non-EDH against almost entire EDH community. BUT lovin it, cos it’s savagely true & myself, as owner of a pair of Vampiric, & only used in very few decks (single hand > enough to count) out of the 100+ decks I must’v cycled through 2 decades of EDH play, I could well stand on the same side as the prosecutors. Pointing finger & throwing shade at the regular tutor users pushin our singleton format back towards the 4-of formats that we chose to leave behind. What r U guys even doin???
@glennnyc
9 ай бұрын
Cedric, I also love river boa. I love equipping river boa. How does a river boa hold a loxodon warhammer?
@andrewlipkin7127
9 ай бұрын
It swallows it whole and kinda headbutts you
@badgerchillsky535
8 ай бұрын
As someone who has played commander, I don’t think EDHrec is a good barometer of what people actually play. Not entirely at least. When I was playing it was EXTREMELY rare for someone to play Vampiric Tutor. There is more things like Academy Rector, to go get one of your combo pieces, or something to protect yourself like Propaganda. But maybe it’s played more in cEDH, it’s way more competitive, kinda like the Legacy version of Commander.
@captawesome42
9 ай бұрын
why is Suleiman's Legacy not a sorcery? -edit - oh my god I read sacrifice it at first, not bury the creature that entered play. card is hilarious
@TheNotoriousJTS
9 ай бұрын
dude i totally didnt know about the uktabi orangutan lore
@LRPRO
9 ай бұрын
big time !
@SuperDayv
9 ай бұрын
Can anyone ELI5 the play Patrick talks about at 1:16:00?
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