I just bought the elevate. It was having the same app/ software issues he mentions here. After I finally got the bar connected to wifi and updated. Now it works flawlessly. App still needs work, but nothing that's a deal breaker.
@LastSifu
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had an Elevate for a year now. Some issues at first, but the improved app makes it WAY more user friendly. The bass punches hard, had to turn it down even. Disney Plus content sounds amazing with the Atmos effects. Most bang for your buck with this one.
@ooooswain
3 ай бұрын
My man if you're only watching through streaming, you ain't hearing the full potential of your elevate system...not even close. You can get a used 4k player for like 80 bucks. PS5 and Xbox series can also play them. 4k uhd discs will blow you away. The sound is like 5x better than streaming.
@JayJay-jx3zg
3 жыл бұрын
For me, ignorance is bliss. I spent $699 on the Vizio and can't fathom spending 1800. It's fantastic in terms of Atmos for movies and games, so that keeps me more than entertained (are you not entertained?!?!). Also having all 13 speakers in the soundbar firing at you during non-Atmos/ DTS X content sounds great, but unlike most other soundbars, which are usually only 3 to 7 speakers. Suffice to say, 13 is abnormal, and a lot.
@Jonathan-bv7qs
3 ай бұрын
Hi, how was your vizio now? I heard vizio sub have cracking noise after months or years of use.
@JayJay-jx3zg
3 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan-bv7qs no lasting issues yet. Sometimes the volume has issues or it won’t shut off. I just unplug it and plug it back in, problem solved. No crackles, no issues withe the rotating speakers. Daily uses for hours on end. I’d buy it again.
@themustang181
Ай бұрын
@@JayJay-jx3zg So the bugs he mentioned with the Vizio have not been an issue for you after their firmware updates other than it not turning off occasionally? Thanks for taking the time to update us years later!
@JayJay-jx3zg
Ай бұрын
@themustang181 still going strong. There are no issues other than the occasional volume issue, correct.
@GOLFADDICT65
3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sonos Arc system and love it...not one issue or complaint...nice sound and great bass...cheers all
@unfinishedfootsteps1404
3 жыл бұрын
@myspankster No DTS?
@ExposedRoot
3 жыл бұрын
@David Mander So many unhappy people. Toxic.
@petermaz701
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you I have the whole system in the living room and it sounds phenomenal and whoever comes here to watch a movie is amazed they think they were in a movie theater.
@russellpeterson7548
3 жыл бұрын
I am a Sonos arc owner and I think you nailed your review. Well done. Love my Sonos but the price tag hurt, no doubt. I have had some limited interaction with their online support and Sonos is responsive there so that's a plus as well. Turned out my issue was with the Bravia TV.
@danieltorres6648
3 жыл бұрын
I got my sub 100 off and each Sonos one for 120, had a song HTNT5 and just wasn’t getting the bass and sound i needed. I got the polk magnifi max then after reading a bunch of bad reviews i said go big or go home
@ZR1Terror
3 жыл бұрын
@@danieltorres6648 so what did you end up with?
@wiardengeman
3 жыл бұрын
Sonos is expensive, but the sound and build quality is amazing . The quality for playing music "lossless" from my NAS sounds great. Movies in Dolby Digital Plus and lossless dolby truehd sounds amazing. One of the major downside owning a Sonos ARC is that absents of DTS-X support. But I love my complete set Sonos ARC + 2x One SL + sub. Works without any problems so fare.
@paul8926
3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have DTS-X support, but not that many films are encoded in DTS-X. Dolby Atmos is pretty much the norm now.
@alexs3187
3 жыл бұрын
You can just set your Blu-ray player to output multichannel LPCM.
@paul8926
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexs3187 Yes, the Sonos ARC just updated to except multichannel LPCM
@danieltorres6648
3 жыл бұрын
Im a fan of the air play feature
@alanoldaker563
3 жыл бұрын
I purchased Sonos Arc, sub, and Amp (for outdoor zone). It is definitely expensive but I wanted it to just work with no fuss. It needed to be wife proof. I also wanted the second zone.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
As another commenter mentioned ... don’t under value quality of life
@TheJoBlackos
3 жыл бұрын
Plus one for the "wife proof", we all need this feature
@sammyhernandez3422
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Enjoyed every minute of it. I was debating between these 2 sound bars for a while and decided to get the vizio because of price. I am very pleased with the product overall. I ran into those UX issues you stated in the beginning, but as the days went on, it sort of got better. Maybe it updated itself in the background 🤷🏽♂️. Happy to hear that the sonos is better suited for music and elevate for movies and video games because those 2 are what i use the sound bar for 99% of the time.
@mckaylundtuttle7962
3 жыл бұрын
I love my elevate. Def has some bugs but amazing sound for $600!! I have the vizio oled also and they work great together!
@TheErickM
3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get it for $600?? I only see it available for $999
@mckaylundtuttle7962
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheErickM Best Buy Black Friday
@mckaylundtuttle7962
3 жыл бұрын
@Tony Rodz it’s gotten a lot better now. I haven’t seen any lately. I don’t use the app. It’s not very good. Event setting you need is on the remote tho. I love mine it’s a great system !
@genechung5052
3 жыл бұрын
@@mckaylundtuttle7962 oomph oof oof of l of
@genechung5052
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheErickM you can be be here for for dinner at the night or
@richellebrittain2127
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I got the Vizio SB36512-F6 5.1.2 for $299 just before Black Friday as even the Elevate is out of my price range, much less the Arc. I had a few setup frustrations with the SmartCast app, but not many; I guess the older SB36512-F6 has more refined firmware than the just-released Elevate. The major differences (other than non-rotating front & no rear upfiring speakers) are (a) no eARC (but my TV is also ARC-only), (b) only one HDMI in (but with EcoPower turned off & CEC disabled on the Blu-ray players behind my Koopman 4K HDMI switch that's OK -- they're controlled by a Harmony Hub), (c) no DTS:X (but it does support DTS-HD MA unlike the Sonos & DTS Virtual:X may make up for it somewhat), and (d) fewer drivers in the soundbar itself (not a huge deal for me). One positive: My rear speaker plugs (single RCA, only one right-angle) are small enough to thread the straight end thru my Perlesmith rear stands (recommended for Vizio rears on Amazon) to conceal the wires; the Elevate's (dual RCA, both right-angle) are not. The Elevate has all the makings of a great soundbar, but it seems Vizio needs a year or two to refine its firmware like it did with the SB36512-F6.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
This is my first video where it seems commenters seem somewhat sympathetic about my conclusions. Yes the Elevate has some potential but did seem perhaps undercooked. Sonos is not perfect but you never get anywhere near the level of frustration ... maybe built into the price
@petermaz701
3 жыл бұрын
I have to say I have the Sonos system in my living room and although it is pseudo-surround sound it sounds amazing now I’ve had other systems and the surround does not sound as good as the Sonos including a Bose system with rear channel speakers. As far Dolby Atmos there was such little content I don’t get what the hype is. All I know is that when watching an action movie on my Sonos system it envelops the whole room and sounds phenomenal.
@rjejames28
3 жыл бұрын
Glitches bugs ect need to be taken into consideration more by all reviewers. If there buggy it's absolutely off my list to purchase.
@willlopez8904
3 жыл бұрын
I purchased the elevate at best buy for 599.99 this weekend!!!
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
I have heard people say 600 I only saw as low as 700. I stink at shopping.
@capnsnaxx
3 жыл бұрын
You caught a steal!
@robh1776
3 жыл бұрын
Let us know if and when it irks consistently and how many hours it took. Based on some of the comments here and the review I suspect this sound bar is high maintenance! The value, cost and sound, should be more than associated risks; That is, set up time, continuing maintenance, minimal or no firmware updates and input inflexibility.
@ishinish
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech the $599 deal was a flash sale the night before cyber Monday. I was shocked and tried to get the price match through best buy but they wouldn't do it because it is noted in their policy price matching will not be included for flash sales from the day of black friday to cyber Monday unfortunately. So whoever got those deals are VERY lucky.
@aqua615
3 жыл бұрын
Yes the elevate app has some issues setting up. Just don't screw up the instructions or enter your WiFi password incorrectly otherwise you have to do a factory reset. Upon the second try, it worked perfectly when I followed the setup correctly. Changing eq settings is slightly annoying. Just change one setting at a time and it works. Remote has always worked flawlessly for me. Rotating speakers have worked 100% of the time. Sound has always been consistent and works with eco mode on. Turn off Eco mode like the Sono's if you have issues. Had the sound bar since it came out. I use ARC from the tv. I keep it on Movie mode typically. If you have issues with the remote, don't use it. Set it and forget it like the Sono's. If you have issues the the rotating speakers, keep them in upwards firing mode the whole time me like the Sono's. Check for firmware updates in the app to fix the issues some people have. It is a new soundbar. It will have firmware issues. The Sono's arc is not new. It has had firmware updates. :)
@DJLsbVapes
2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing comparison, thank you 🙏 Subscribed
@istgroup2346
2 жыл бұрын
Very good content. I was really skeptic about the video and the length of it but really helpful and well put together. Thank you for helping with my choice. New to Sonos. Was hoping to save some $ and was hoping Vizio had fixed their issues but apparently not. Thank you again for the comparison between the two
@artgumbus
3 жыл бұрын
Have the Arc and Sub3.... Totally excellent... trouble free.... I JUST WORKS... all smiles.... that is work a LOT of points. A LOT,
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
I know ... people would call me biased if I awarded 12 points or something like that 😃. Glad the Arc is working out for you
@unfinishedfootsteps1404
3 жыл бұрын
@artinctg but not with DTS..
@chrisharris8600
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech Yep bias for sure... like comparing a BMW to Genisis and praising the Genisis cause it has more feature LMFAO!!
@J0stAn0therJ0hn
3 жыл бұрын
I might be tempted to go SONOS when they put out up-firing rears for Atmos.
@oldsnwbrdr
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. They (and other manufacturers) need to fix all the eARC handshake issues. When the Sonos “just works” I’ll be ready to pull the trigger...
@Straightarrow42
3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful and charming. Watch your focus, but overall appreciated.
@SuperPabster
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. User friendliness is an absolute must with the family. Vizio out!
@ThatsPety
2 жыл бұрын
1:27 ngl I subbed right after this line
@that_biker_boy5550
Жыл бұрын
This Vizio Elevate setup keeps getting great reviews and I’d be very interested in getting one! Especially as I was about to drop £2,500 approx on a Sonos full setup! But for some reason I can’t find any availability for this Vizio sound bar in the UK!?! It’s like Vizio just don’t offer it in this country or something! 🤔🤷♂️ Great review!!
@theman4770
3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Funny that the two sound bars I am looking at are the ones that give you the most problems, the Elevate and the Q950T. Which one did you like better?
@RarToto
3 жыл бұрын
Bose 700 LMAO
@BatTech
3 жыл бұрын
The Sonos not having any HDMI passthru is a deal breaker.
@hoodaguy
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@jollama
3 жыл бұрын
@@hoodaguy Not everyone has a TV with eARC so they wouldn’t be able to get uncompressed audio. Without eARC, you would need to connect your devices to the soundbar, but the Arc has no HDMI inputs so they’re stuck with Dolby Digital Plus/DTS-HD at best
@jeffrohde3442
3 жыл бұрын
@@jollama I didn't have eArc either. I added a HDFury Arcana device and it enables passthrough for that connection only. Chose the Apple TV 4k and it's passing Dolby Atmos through it. Another $200, but worth it for the Atmos and reclaiming the input. (4 devices, versus 3)
@juandoe7802
3 жыл бұрын
I have the ARC+Sub+LS+RS, and I've not really noticed any atmos effects to be honest. Now I've noticed great surround coming from the front stage ARC. Before I got the Sonos One SL for the surround back effect, the ARC would do pretty good as I could hear noises behind/beside me...I was kind of impressed. My room configuration is odd, but the ceiling is 8ft high and flat, yet I haven't really noticed height effects. I do enjoy it, as it is perfect for a room setup, and I like the night mode and voice enhancement in the app. It blends the audio really good, and plays music very well. I would say though that, and I understand not everyone can do both...trust me I worked overtime to get both the Sonos speakers and some separates, but separate speakers (I have a pair of SVS Ultra bookshelves) and a SVS PB1000, and I gotta say that the audio quality is noticeably better than the Sonos setup for around the same price. Those two speakers fill up my room like crazy! I don't know how to explain it, but movies and music just impressed me so much that I really thought about returning the Sonos equipment to get another pair of SVS Ultras, but my wife likes the simplicity of the ARC and not having to mess with the A/V receiver...just turn the TV on and go. Just my two cents for what it's worth, and I just upgraded my sub to a PB3000 and OMG the bass coming out of that thing is too much for my room, so I'm moving it to the living room and eventually getting a second sub to pair with it later on. I love the ARC though don't get me wrong.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@Jaun Doe convenience is a big part of soundbars - definitely not the best sound for the money. I don’t hear 3D effect reliably except in some instances with Dolby TrueHD or DTSX. Streaming compressed Atmos is really watered down
@jamescollins3130
3 жыл бұрын
About time a review... Thank you
@Edlouis564
Жыл бұрын
I bought the Elevate at an awesome Prime day deal for $290 after applying some Amazon gift cards for applying for some credit cards they offer I'll never use. Anyway its an incredible bar, but yes every other day or so I have to unplug the power and put it back in, which is annoying but for that price I can live with it. Have a feeling thought that its just an HDMI ARC issue in TV's as a refurb Bose 900 i scored for an amazing price as well, does the EXACT same thing. Using both bars on LG OLED's
@listertheblister
3 жыл бұрын
I found a mount for my arc on Amazon for 20 bucks and it work great
@timothyokoth960
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your indepth review is very helpful
@JoyStickJester_
3 жыл бұрын
Those of you that are Costco members and really don't care about the voice assistance in the Arc. Costco has the Sonos Arc SL for $50 cheaper. So far it is not online but they do have them in store. It's the same Arc as the original Arc just without voice assistance. I have Alexa and Google Home throughout my home so having the voice assistant inside the Arc is not a deal breaker for me.
@rkw221
3 жыл бұрын
helpful review, very helpful. One bit of detail for the Sonos takes it out of th erunning for me and it's something I had yet to encounter to the point I have it in my cart. That is the always on nature of the bar. My install is in my RV home theater setup and while I have a lot, I mean a lot, of power on tap at 24kWh, the parasitic drain of the the Sonos Arc is a deal breaker. So that was really helpful to discover, thank you. I actually found this video when comparing the Arc to the Elevate system. Your experience with the Elevate make me question it as well since 99% of my goal is to NOT need to have some fiddly set of crap...too old and worn out to need to buy more frustrations, ya know? So thanks again for that as well... So pretty much you destroyed two of my contenders...oh gee thanks, now another 256789hrs research in front of my before Friday. ;)
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
My channel is dedicated to exasperating first world problems. Hope you find your bar. You might consider a simpler bar like Klipsch cinema 600. The bar doesn’t try to do so much and sounds great. Option to expand with surrounds. Big sub so maybe that is a problem. Anyway good luck
@chookchack
3 жыл бұрын
Costco sells their exclusive klipsch atmos system for 900 then add their discounted sub for 150 and get a decent receiver, all for under 1800.
@IamY00t
3 жыл бұрын
I got a Beam for my living room TV, a FIVE for my dinner room, a One for my Kitchen, One for my Bathroom and a One for the bedroom. I'm so into the whole ecosystem I might as well go Arc and Sub for my basement home cinema.
@BFCINTL
3 жыл бұрын
I have one of Vizio's 5.1 soundbars from a few years ago. The user experience was really bad in the beginning. Constant issues, failing to power on, etc. It still is sometimes unreliable and requires me to unmount it from the wall and take the power cord out to get it to reset. Firmware updates haven't helped. I was really excited about the Elevate but it's really disappointing to hear they still have so many issues with their user interface.
3 жыл бұрын
and I still buy the sonos 🙌🏽... ps. Trueplay for Android is not possible because the phones have built-in different microphones, this is easier to handle with iphones
@georgevillalvazo9154
Жыл бұрын
I have my Sonos arc, and my Sonos GEN three set up along with a pair of sono fives all hooked up to a Sony 83 inch a 90 J with a PanasonicUB UB 9000 4 K DVD THX certified player!
@davidvanity8455
3 жыл бұрын
Yes finally i been waiting for this one
@gregorypeck3023
3 жыл бұрын
Vizio has better value for money. Supports both dolby atmos and dts-x. 2 additional hdmi inputs, 4 upfiring speakers and nerdy rotating speaker.
@serafinarredondo8671
3 жыл бұрын
Great review I have the elevate and the Vizio oled and I haven't noticed any issues with connection streaming or changing modes ! Maybe it was updated? Idk but I will say the elevate requires alot of tweaking to get the correct sound! Every movie sounds different and I find myself having to go into the settings to adjust surround channels and center channels alot! But I like messing with settings so I don't mind It!
@kevinvitale8980
3 жыл бұрын
That tweaking would be an absolute deal killer. Thanks for the heads up.
@marcus_ohreallyus
3 жыл бұрын
What you just described about tweaking is what's killing me with this soundbar. Just when I think I have the perfect setting, I watch some other content that sounds totally different and I have to tweak again. That's some BS I don't really want to be dealing with. I'd rather have everything sound good and somewhat consistent than to be amazing but require tweaking. I'm going to get an Arc to test before my best buy return window has closed on the Elevate. It's the only way to take be sure.
@bradmiller2222
3 жыл бұрын
Bought the Elevate and returned it the next day. As you stated I had audio but no video with an apple tv. Only got it to work once for a short period of time. Bought the Arc instead. Feel like it's a much better product.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@brad miller for those that have not had a Sonos product it’s difficult to express how much reliability matters. If you already have Sonos I think going Sonos makes a lot more sense than if you are starting from scratch and may be on a budget. As I mentioned I have 30 Sonos products so that was meant to be kind of telling
@bradmiller2222
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech the ARC brings me to 10 Sonos speakers. Reliability is a definite plus with Sonos. Also being able to integrate brand new speakers with 4 year old speakers is great. Every other audio company is very closed off when it comes to thiers speaker systems.
@danieltorres6648
3 жыл бұрын
I went to sonos after having a Sony HTNT5 for 3 years. Needed more bass and sound, bought a Polk magnifi max and had it for about a month. More and more reviews i read the worse i felt about my decision i decided to go big or go home and bought the sonos arc with a pair of surround speakers. I love it
@danieltorres6648
3 жыл бұрын
I like the app, i enjoy the aiplay and how easy it is for others to connect. I thought i was going to dislike not having a Bluetooth option but nope. And only 2 wires, power and eArc
@OrZft
Жыл бұрын
HINT, The Vizio Elevate 5.1.4 is in the smartcast eco-system.
@Kewlbob
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day Sonos will support DTS. Until then...
@RiCH_926
10 ай бұрын
Should I buy the elevate system in 2023 and I've been looking at it I have a traditional system which is decent but definitely outdated I've never had a sound bar but I want to start out with a decent one My budget is $1,000
@mrrogers8158
3 жыл бұрын
Nice review I’ll get the elevate
@Gr8tKingJames23
3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Vizio 5.1 surround sound and the bass for current movies made the bass sound distorted, I bought a Sony 5.1 surround sound and it performed greatly. So idk if I'll ever buy a Vizio sound system again
@jameshummel7349
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta get your hands on the ambeo to review
@thefakechris
3 жыл бұрын
The Apple TV should always be connected directly to the TV, because it always sends an active signal even when its asleep. So the soundbar might think its on and auto switch you to a black screen
@billmiller5722
2 ай бұрын
These days it's the Sonos that is having major app problems... With no remote to fall back on!
@neverenoughtech
2 ай бұрын
That’s the truth
@504cool
Жыл бұрын
Fights and make up relations…. I’ve been literally revisiting my elevate for the third time. I bought it with day one bugs and eventually shelved it for an older vizio sound bar. After 3 days the previous issues haven’t resurfaced yet, however I don’t know if I’d recommend it either. It’s too expensive for the headache.
@TheLWebb100
3 жыл бұрын
Sonos needs to get an update to support DTS!!
@This_is_the_Matrix
Жыл бұрын
Have you reviewed the Vizio M Series Elevate It retails at around 499-599. Curious to hear your thoughts on it.
@neverenoughtech
Жыл бұрын
No but I probably should … I think I am doing a good job of ignoring more reasonably priced items that lots of potential customers are interested in
@This_is_the_Matrix
Жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech ha ha ha ha ha. No worries, was just curious. We are looking at sound bars now. General preference is for full systems but these are easier. Sonos seems a bit pricey for what you get. I am not trying to blow the roof off, so Vizio seems good enough. Just wondering if M series is a more reasonable purchase.
@williamsherlin7587
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you
@burnzosworld3928
3 жыл бұрын
I've been in enough toxic relationships, I'm ready to settle down and be boring with sonos 🤣
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
👫
@StayPositive-sd8op
Жыл бұрын
Got a visual Soundbar about 5 years ago with my TV which is Vizio and ever since getting Comcast the damn thing doesn't want to work
@Z3r0Strife
3 жыл бұрын
What happened to you large comparison video of the top 5 soundbar for 2020?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan T I had to temp move across country for various reasons. Not in the cards this year. A goal for next year ... gonna get a much bigger basement and test space. Should help a lot. Appreciate the interest
@wach1722
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit those ears are crazy
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Should see when the full moon comes out
@randomcsorely
3 жыл бұрын
But for the price the Elevate rear speakers should be wireless
@jaysin4872
2 жыл бұрын
Does the elevate work better without wifi and the app? Since you can do everything with the remote.
@neverenoughtech
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t need wifi for normal tv operation. For the app and streaming content
@TimeIdle
3 жыл бұрын
Funny the one with the higher score is the one you recommend less.
@wblue10
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I watchet the whole video without skipping or anything, thats how intrested you got me, so good job! Im just wondering what i should do. Currently I have LG SL10Yg and to me, it actually sounds really good but i do have some complaints that it sounds pretty muddy sometimes and that the Subwoofer isnt that puncy or clean, and i want something with eArc since i have a LG CX. I am wondering though how anything could sound any better cause it sounds good, but im really tempted in getting the Sonos soundsystem with the Sub, maybe Surrounds down the line if they get upwardfiring speakers as well. But in your video you said the sound maybe doesnt "impress your friend" or like "Wow" you, which is definetly something i want. So is the Arc maybe not the best to get? Should i maybe wait if Sonos release a version with more inputs and like DTS support etc? Thanks in advance!
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Impress your friend bar are the Samsung bars. I think Sonos is the quality of life bar (especially with Apple products) that will be much more satisfying than impressing a friend
@wblue10
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech Okay I understand! I tend to be more at the quality of life type of person, where everything works perfectly all the time whenever you need it to. But is the sound difference that big? Like is the sound that much better? Would the gap be smaller if perhaps Sonos made the surround speakers availble with upward firing speakers? Thanks!
@jaimyrl
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vs for q950t vs HW q90r
@dennis1908cubs
3 жыл бұрын
Daniel thanks for the review. I have the Vizio Oled and really like the stand for a the sound bar Mount. But my Problem with the Vizio is The rear speakers because I have a open floor plain and the Positioning for the Sub and rear speakers will take some work to figure it out. So trying to Decide between the Vizio and the JBL 9.1, which has the wireless Rear speakers. I’ve watch your JBL and Vizio reviews. I was hoping for you to help me with my Decision and what ever thoughts you have on the two systems. I’m leaning towards a JBL but love your Opinion. Thanks
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I think the trade off really depends on what you want to do. If you are really interested in a 3D effect via blueray I’d go JBL. If you are more interested in streaming, where 3D is pretty lame, the Vizio. I think the Vizio has fuller sound than JBL. I am going to need you to weigh these relative strengths with the wire issue.
@dennis1908cubs
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech Thanks. The wires would be a problem. Plus place a sub near where I seat doesn’t set with me very well. I let my Sub near the tv just like a normal Receiver set up. Features I’m looking for are the Derby and DTS Atmos features, close as I could get a movie Theater experience. If you Compare to JBL or Vizio in the Future that’s would be sweet. I’m Leaning towards a JBL unless you have any other I should take a look at. That’s for Replying back to me. 👍
@richellebrittain2127
3 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue I've heard of with JBL's true wireless surrounds is they must be periodically returned to the soundbar itself for charging, though you MIGHT be able to power them with USB cables & chargers. I'd rather have surrounds wired to the subwoofer (like Vizio & Nakamichi, even though that limits sub placement) or a separate powered wireless receiver (like LG, Samsung & Sony).
@dennis1908cubs
3 жыл бұрын
@@richellebrittain2127 Thank you! I saw that the Rear speakers can be Powered where they are by USB. That wouldn’t be a problem for me, because where I’ll place them. I wouldn’t have wires running a cross the floor I would only power them over night. Thanks
@rkw221
3 жыл бұрын
@@dennis1908cubs wonder if they support higher power chargers for a faster charge? Or even how powerful a charger is to keep speakers from running out of power while in use and plugged in? Or if they charge even when being used? hehehe, sorry, it's late and now that the Sonos and Elevate are pretty much off my list, I have returned to OCD midnight shopping mode.
@andrewlove4342
3 жыл бұрын
So if my tv only has Dolby digital plus,dts or Dolby digital,dts I can't get the best sound from the sonos arc?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much what the TV has but what it can pass. If the tv is eARC enabled, it can send dolby TrueHD to the Arc. If not, DD+ is the highest you get. Sonos does not support DTS natively. It will need to recoded for to be played. Unless you have digital files you only get DOlby TrueHD via blue rays
@mannymartinez6465
3 жыл бұрын
vizio the best of all 💯💯💯💯
@richlandvideoguy
Жыл бұрын
Mine is on the way (renewed from Amazon) and now I'm a LIL concerned. I've set up 2 Vizio systems before, and they were a breeze. After watching your video, I feel nervous. I THINK there have been some firmware updates to the system--since 2020? Gimme some good news:) Thanks!
@neverenoughtech
Жыл бұрын
I suspect they’ve made improvements
@philhouston3270
3 жыл бұрын
How the heck can you get full blast atmos via a strickly arc/earc connect on the Sonos arc?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@Phil Houston Go through an eARC enabled TV like LG CX
@Justsome_Randomdude
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else have lip sync issues with the Arc? The Playbar doesn’t have this issue.
@greenchoice1810
3 жыл бұрын
Is it me and my ear, or is the arc not detailed with music ?
@vidsbfree4me
3 жыл бұрын
Could it be that Atmos (height) is simply hype? Every reviewer says the same thing, that's it's there but not enough there there. Since the movie Gladiator, I've used DTS via my Disk Media Player. And 5.1 was good enough then. ATMOS is awesome, in the Theater. But does one really need to try and replicate it at home or at their flat? I'm not so sure. But I will say this, it's simply hard to beat the magic of a 4K Blu-ray Player. To date, Tenet is one of the best Movies mastered for home use. My Denon belts out DTS x and it's great sound without breaking the bank.
@wilsonmanch6773
3 жыл бұрын
suggest reviewing Klipsch 1200
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Feeling like it’s vapor ware. When released?
@marcop.9744
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech March 2021
@Deuxiit
3 жыл бұрын
so how does the sonos arc work without the app? they dropped all ready the last gen speakers out of the app so you cant use them with new ones so wondering how long untill this sonos is going to be going to garbage can. Does it really need the app to get them working or are they useless after few years?
@butchbr73
3 жыл бұрын
This is not true... The S2 app was released when the Arc was announced and is needed to support the Arc. Most of the old speakers are also supported (in fact the only speaker that may not be is the Play 5:Gen 1), including the playbase and playbar (the playbar was released in 2013). Sonos has a good track record of supporting speakers 7-10 years on a platform. I would anticipate the arc being around at least 6-7 years before any material changes are made. You can still use the S1 app to run and operate the Play 5:Gen 1 speaker today
@srpsrp6186
3 жыл бұрын
So you like the JBL 9.1 over this one. I have had both ,with the vizio now. The jbl's dialogue and lack of control of it was a downer for me.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@srp srp I think I said the 3D effect on JBL was more convincing - maybe better bass. I don’t think I said overall JBL was better - though not an unreasonable opinion
@claudiugeorge5445
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech so the jbl 9.1 sound better,hits lower/deeper on base frequency than sonos sub and vizio sub?
@claudiugeorge5445
3 жыл бұрын
What can you say about the jbl 9.1 subwoofer? It can go lower/deeper than sonos/vizio subwoofers?
@azmang6804
3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Vizio when it was on sale. It was a nightmare to set up and the arc connection wouldn't work with my CX. I liked the sound quality but it was too much of a headache so I returned it and picked up the JBL 9.1. I'm loving the JBL so far, easy setup and bug free. Sound quality is as good as if not better than the elevate without any of the hassle. I'd go with the Sonos if I had $1800 to burn but I think JBL is the best option for under $1000.
@oldsnwbrdr
3 жыл бұрын
May I verify that with the Sonos, the rear channels are never truly surround speakers even with 5.x content, but instead Sonos’ own “surround” processing?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Can verify they are not true 6/7 channels. Tech support uses words like sound filler and ambient sounds ... in all honesty it’s not completely off the Mark of what you might expect from surround but they are not playing discrete channels.
@oldsnwbrdr
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech what about the 4th and 5th channels when it’s only a 5.1 signal?
@RobertVanderStelt
2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean 6/7? Wouldn’t they just act like your standard surround left and surround right? So you’re getting those separate channels to the rear speakers correct?
@williamsherlin7587
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be investing in the Sonos ecosystem due to your excellent reviews. When you pair your older sub to the Arc , could you add play 1’s as well (play 1’s) was my first purchase. Also I heard Sonos did a LPCM firmware update for the Arc and would like your input on that as well. Thank you.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
For my normal setup I have the arc, sub Gen 1 and play 1s. The play 1s are mounted to my wall and I didn’t feel like changing out mounts for the sonos ones. So yes they are all compatible. The Arc supports LPCM
@williamsherlin7587
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech I would like to hear your thoughts on the Klipsch Cinema 1200
@juandoe7802
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech You mentioned that the Sonos ones provide ambient noise and not true surround correct? I never knew this...that kind of bums me out.
@sunfirev
Жыл бұрын
Sonos gets a point for being wireless
@sunfirev
Жыл бұрын
Lol so many points for vizio.. missed some points for sonos
@cn8299
3 жыл бұрын
Advice: If you're going to initiate Alexa or Google on a video, do us all a favor and bleep out the command.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, should have realized that the 1000 times it went off editing this video
@bobsimmons1470
3 жыл бұрын
See?!?! I have the Vizio 46 fs whatever and I'm thinking about returning it to Costco. But, why would I get the Elevate if it will have all bugs of the, whatever I have now? Vizio sucks is what I think I'm saying
@sunfirev
Жыл бұрын
Just add more bonus points for elevate
@Scalptrash
3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy and appreciate your reviews.... but, this one is somewhat confusing. The Arc DOES have dedicated rear surround channels when speakers are added. While no up firing speakers are available, yet, on the surrounds, they are definitely discreet L and R rear channels. Also, you awarded a point for to the Elevate for ease of setup while stating the Arc was more involved and then went on a five minute rant about how frustrating the Elevate was to set up, configure and use, later in your review.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@Scalptrash - the whole theater bundle says it’s a 5.1.2 system. The bar itself is a 5.0.2 system. Sonos is not providing true 6 and 7 channels. You can’t buy a 7.0 Sonos system. Sonos is very opaque about what exactly the rears are doing. You can make them a redundant stereo pair or have them make ambient sounds. There is not option to make them dedicated to producing a discrete 6 and 7 channel. About setup. I was specific to how long it takes to make sound. I did struggle with network setup but it can augment tv sound with just a plug-in. Network connection is optional. Also if worked as intended then network setup is also simpler ... where only one connection (not 4) needs to be established
@JohnDoe-mb4mv
3 жыл бұрын
Sonos thank you
@matthewspears9593
3 жыл бұрын
Can you put sub in back of room?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
What I do
@akshaytony
2 жыл бұрын
bass? sonos vs vizio
@unrelentingchemistry6877
2 жыл бұрын
sonos is better sounding the last sonos sound bar sounds better than the new model
Maybe, but he is one of the most informative and unbiased reviewers out there
@KemAlimole
3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Adam Driver?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Amongst other odd-voiced actors
@JustinPaulPictures
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video - probably a stupid question, but what if I don't use the Vizio surround speakers, since I don't want to run the wire due to difficulty hiding it. Will I miss out a lot other than the obvious not having surround speakers behind me??
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
It will be a degradation in surround effect but not overall sound quality
@JustinPaulPictures
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech Thanks for the swift reply! I was really into this Vizio as a decent-price/availability option, but the user experience doesn't seem worth it to me. Uggh. This has been quite journey for me to find a good price, good sound, just works sound bar!
@ceuser3555
3 жыл бұрын
Sonos arc system has been out of stock for a long time.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
Got mine in June
@ceuser3555
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech I have been looking since August and I found none. It’s like the PS5 and X Box series X.
@Wilbgr8
3 жыл бұрын
Sonos Arc wins again..
@online_now6834
3 жыл бұрын
If you cannot tell a big difference in these two then sound/audio gear is not your arena to play in.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@Online_Now I could tell a big difference in sound profile but not a big difference in overall sound quality. Are you presupposing there must be a big difference in quality. Various audio blogs have not been consistent in quality comparisons ... should their lack of consistency disqualify them from blogging?
@thegeniusfool
3 жыл бұрын
Don't ever do that again! It's late and my eyes are failing me, but when I saw that "smoothening" effect it indeed buffered up a quite horrid nightmare! Beside that, beautiful (...) review.
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
@David Bergman if you pay for a disturbing effect you must use it to give viewers nightmares (fine print)
@eric777a
3 жыл бұрын
Half way of this video I'm falling asleep, it's the way you talk or your voice is very flat or maybe it's my Sony headphones?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the headphones and my voice
@Ezio12376
2 жыл бұрын
Yo kylo ren is a techy
@neverenoughtech
2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@mikerichardson60
3 жыл бұрын
Reservoir ugh
@randomname9758
3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was an interesting review but the constant editing and juttering of your face was very distracting. I think in unedited version of your talking points would be a lot better.
@donjon007
3 жыл бұрын
To the point 🔊.. What a waste🤗
@Chase.Charli
3 жыл бұрын
What Soundbar with Wireless Subwoofer would you buy for under $1000 (DOLBY ATMOS)?
@neverenoughtech
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t but if forced and going for Atmos 1. Q90R/Q950T (sometimes on sale below k), 2. JBL Bar 9.1, 3. Vizio Elevate. 4. Sonos Arc w/2 one SLs (around 1k depending on what’s being discounted)
@Chase.Charli
3 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughtech OK so what is your #1 choice for say under $2k ?
@2Greenlid
Жыл бұрын
Because of my room I don’t want rear speakers, what is your best choice for soundbar with sub combo, under $2000? Thanks
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