Thanks for the impressions! Just a small advice regarding your aim adjustments: aim with your 'feet' (rudder pedals), and not by banking. That's how I do in WW1/WW2 sims, both for air combat, when small lateral adjustments are required, and in strafing runs.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice! I tried to put them into practice during my last stream. I do find the rudder pedals are too "soft" or don't offer enough resistance to really be accurate with my legs. I definitely need more practice.
@brunorbf
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast No problem! I'm watching your last stream, you are getting better. Keep up! It will take some time to get used to the pedals. When I changed from twist to pedals it took me several weeks, then it became second nature, with the added bonus that you no longer have 'noise' from the X and Y axis has it happened with a twist rudder.
@WanderfalkeAT
4 жыл бұрын
Good Choice - I also have still my old X-52 Throttle and the NXT Pro! Love to fly the Fly By Wire Planes F-16/18 much more now. Landing the Harrier on Deck of the Tarawa is also much more precise because it does not wiggle so much due to the perfect Dead Center!
@Simenthusiast
4 жыл бұрын
Same here I really enjoy the Fly by wire feel with this set stick. Also staying in AOA is easier too.
@WatchMysh
4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I still use the old X52 Pro throttle along with a Virpil WarBRD base and grip.
@TLTeo
4 жыл бұрын
My T16000 stick is starting to give up on life, and I'm looking for a replacement. This looks like an excellent option.
@Simenthusiast
4 жыл бұрын
Matteo, I think that sounds like a great idea! I hope you enjoy it as much as I’ve enjoyed mine.
@CumulusBurn
3 жыл бұрын
I’m in same boat looking at this to replace my T16000. I hope it lasts.
@sparky_862
2 жыл бұрын
Necroing your thread, but, how long did your T.16000M last you for? How many hrs of usage roughly? I am looking on getting into HOTAS and T.16000M caught my eye for value.
@WatchMysh
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough impressions! I linked to your video in the description of my 2020 HOTAS roundup! :)
@Simenthusiast
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!!!
@inrptn
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your thoughts and videos on the stick. Really helped me to decide what to get. I just ordered the NXT pro yesterday. I started getting into sims this year with the release of msfs2020 and I've got a honeycomb yoke for that, but with the steam sale on Il-2 and DCS, I just picked up a few modules for each one. In Il-2 I could fly bombers with the yoke, but you simply must have a joystick for DCS. Plus I wanna fly all the fighters in Il-2. I highly recommend Il-2 if you don't already play it. The Great Battles series is awesome.
@Simenthusiast
4 жыл бұрын
I JUST piced up IL-2 during the current steam sale! Excited to try it! Thank your for your nice comment!
@WatchMysh
4 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast nice! Which IL-2 releases did you get? Any collector's planes also? The P-38 is reallly fun to fly, just getting into this plane and I'm having a great time.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
I ended up getting Battle of Stalindgrad to start out. It's pretty crazy coming in for the landing without any computers to guide you onto a dirt runway was awesome!
@WatchMysh
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast haha. Nice. :) HF! Looking forward to see you fly a havoc or similar stuff.
@inrptn
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast Nice man. My NXT just arrived an hour ago. I'm flying DCS right now. Flies like a dream compared to a yoke LMAO. I can't wait to hop into Il-2.
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133
3 жыл бұрын
The word you're looking for is "exponential" you put a 20% exponential gain on your axis... more you know ;) great video man, helped me alot
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@RocketToTheMoose
3 жыл бұрын
Thats what we call it in the RC world, anyway. I have also settled on 20%, mainly because I need it to do air to air refueling.
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133
3 жыл бұрын
@@RocketToTheMoose Haha ya thats where i got the term from but in general when you add a curve to a line function it is called an exponential function.. im fairly sure lol
@haulperrel2547
4 жыл бұрын
I just got this stick, I really like it so far. It's so smooth and that really helps with lining up targets in Il-2. The only issue is the short throw and afaik they don't sell a stick extension like they do for the Gunfighter. Don't do much in the way of modern planes but now I'm considering buying the Hornet cause it's just so much more fun than using the Thrustmaster HOTAS X.
@Simenthusiast
4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’ve been thinking of getting il-2. It’s on sale this weekend and it looks interesting.
@haulperrel2547
4 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast It's totally worth it, especially on sale. I'd recommend getting Bodenplatte if you were going to get just one, but they're all fantastic.
@JordanOwnby
3 жыл бұрын
Hotas X...eek. I remember those days..
@nacl2858
Жыл бұрын
@@JordanOwnby LOL thats what im starting with right now if I like flying then I'll buy a more expensive setup
@JordanOwnby
Жыл бұрын
@@nacl2858 Makes perfect sense.
@1SaG
2 жыл бұрын
Switched to the NXT Evo last month after literally more than a decade of using nothing but my beloved Sidewinder FF2. That stick is currently in storage and I can't get my hands on it.. but I haven't missed it since I started using the VKB. And that's .... pretty high praise coming from me - I wouldn't have traded that Sidewinder for a Warthog. Not sure my NXT will perform well in DCS, since it's the KG12 version (I fly mostly WW2 stuff), but man... that thing is so precise. I only recently started sim-flying again, so I did miss quite a few updates to, say, IL-2, so it might also be a matter of changes in the FM, but I don't think any of the planes in that game have ever felt this good to me. Especially the 190 is so much more cooperative thanks to the added precision of the VKB. It also helps that it looks like the 109's and 190's real world stick... flicking over that safety-catch-trigger before a fight is such a nerdy thing to enjoy, but it does feel awesome. :)
@AliBaba-vw7mo
3 жыл бұрын
Me: *cries with Logitech Extreme 3D* By the way bank angle doesn’t really matter. Its a fighter jet! Do whatever the hell you want!
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
lol I tend to do just that, but you know lol
@Randomguy-sq5sj
2 жыл бұрын
Well refuelling and formation and over g just that type of stuff are important so yeah
@simonpaquin6338
3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered it, I used to play LOMAC in the early days. Cant wait to give this game another go.
@Simenthusiast
2 жыл бұрын
What is LOMAC? I googled it and it seems to be a boat or medical thing.
@simonpaquin6338
2 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast Lock on modern air combat .
@MasterMojo85
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you choose the Standart Version of the stick on purpose? I mean just because it was cheaper or didn't you want/need the extra features of the premium version?
@TheNamePi
3 жыл бұрын
some people want more buttons instead of hats or joysticks
@Simenthusiast
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I actually needed the additional analog stick. BUT the real reason I got the standard was because the premium was already sold out.
@KurtBliss
2 жыл бұрын
What's your setup btw Thanks for the share I just purchased the ultimate setup I totally forgot about The Gladiator joystick I had one many years ago and sold it Hind sight should of kept it 😆 Are you using track IR? As well Thanks again
@Solo6R
2 жыл бұрын
Which pedals do you use? I have this stick as well as the pedals from VKB. So far I love them and their all metal build. But was wondering what curvature, if any you used for those.
@thunder_steini
Ай бұрын
Which button do you use for the look around. I just ordered the standard stick and I’m looking for ways to look around since I don’t have the extra 8way joystick.
@PeeJott17
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jean. Nice Vid once again. Been thinking of upgrading from X52-Pro as well. Since I stumbled upon a FB-post from WinWing, I decided to wait to the 11.11. because it seems they will start selling their new Orion-Hotas...the throttle really looks good, but I'll have to make a decision between the WinWing Orion stick and the VKG Gladiator NXT-Pro... hhhhmmmm
@Simenthusiast
4 жыл бұрын
PeeJott17, that's an interesting one. I've not seen the orion throttle from Winwing. I might be interested in picking one up as well! Thanks for sharing and you kind comment!
@567davefair
3 жыл бұрын
I have the x52 Pro but hate the stick but the throttle is ok! Do you use the x52 Pro throttle with the Gladiator NXT and are there any issues doing so?
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Perfection Man, thanks for the question. I do use the throttle from my x52 Pro and for the most part, 99% of the time it works well. The only issue i've run into is when a game can only address a few peripherals. For example, in Squadrons, i had to make sure my stick, throttle, and rudders were addressed. But again, that's a very rare thing. I do wish the x52 pro had more buttons though.
@rymdskrotet
Жыл бұрын
Will this stick (which version to get?) with DCS and FS2020 - is that a good choice coming from Logitech 3D Extreme Pro? Im not using Track IR, can you look around smoothly (not steps) with any of the buttons?
@BojanBojovic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Is it ok to use it without the throttle controller? I am thinking about getting the Thrustmaster T16000M with the throttle or this one without the throttle. I do not like two devices on my desk and connecting both every time I want to play, because I can not leave those on my desk but need to take them out of the drawer and connect them every time. How much better is to use the throttle hotas?
@KhoaNguyen-gl2zg
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, what kind of throttle are you using for your combat flight sim? To my understanding, VKB doesn't have combat throttle at the moment.
@Simenthusiast
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm currently using a Thrustmaster TWCS that I picked up earlier in the year. They don't have a combat throttle yet, but I will definitely be getting it as soon as its available.
@bronney
3 жыл бұрын
Jean are all sensors magnetic like the TM Airbus? I am looking for a new stick after working this logitech X3D pro for 10 years and all the pots jitter af. Really wanna avoid this if I am buying. Are the sensors on the VKB pots or mag? Thanks.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bronney, the GNXT has a magnetic resistance sensor. So you're good, no potentiometers, no jitters. vkbcontrollers.com/?faq=what-is-the-vkb-mars-sensor-technology-how-is-it-different-from-hall-effect
@bronney
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast Thanks, bro. Why do you make me spend money??? XD
@FalconsLedge
3 жыл бұрын
You find landings easier, because the X52 has a horrendously sloppy center on its sensors.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed the accuracy of the sensor in the VKB Sim is leaps ahead of anything i've tried so far.
@FalconsLedge
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast I'm about to compare that joystick with my warthog. I know I had a lot of trouble aerial refueling with the x52, but when I got the warthog, it was so much easier
@falmatrix2r
2 жыл бұрын
@@FalconsLedge is the NXT better than the TM warthog stick?
@FalconsLedge
2 жыл бұрын
@@falmatrix2r That is a very difficult to answer question. The NXT (especially the new EVO model) is more reliable, not suffering from such issues as stiction, or having a far too heavy stick causing failures in the stick joints and what-not. In addition It is my opinion that the NXT is better engineered, just look at the pictures of the interior in my video, and compare it to the interior of a warthog. The warthog grip is made of metal, and there is something to say about that. But when I owned both, I constantly felt myself gravitating towards the less expensive NXT even though I really liked the Warthog. My eventual decision was to sell the warthog, and buy a Gunfighter Mk.III, which in my opinion in superior in every way to the warthog. I added an Orion throttle to the mix some time after, and it has served me well. You know what, I'm just going to say it: I'd rather have a Gladiator NXT EVO than a Thrustmaster Warthog. There it is, its out there. Do with it what you will.
@falmatrix2r
2 жыл бұрын
@@FalconsLedge i have an x52 for…gosh, since the beginning of when DCS was known as Lock-On and I had Flaming Cliffs 1 and 2 in CDs. My rudder axis is screwed, the center of the stick is a loose mess, I tried many times AA refueling but I never got it. I just think it’s time to change. I was looking at the x56 vs Warthog not knowing better but then I saw lots of complaints for the x56 having very bad sensors and axis precision. Other complaints about the warthog having a good build quality outside but not so much inside. Here I am now watching videos about the NXT and WinWing Orion. My first thought was to get the NXT evo and use it with my x52 throttle until the TECS comes out
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133
3 жыл бұрын
Spudknocker has a major in military aviation history and he flies acrobatic prop IRL... so ya hes a pretty good resource lol He'll teach you how to fly planes in DCS, instead of teaching you how to "play" DCS
@sloppy_sock
2 жыл бұрын
Can I play with just the stick (no thruster)?
@premiernissanofsanjose
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a individual throttle recommendation? Or should I wait for the KVB release.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
I actually broke down and bought a thrust master twcs, it's alright, but I'm going to wait till we get the VKB TECS throttle to really dive back into a throttle search.
@PixelGod240
2 жыл бұрын
So is it possible to use the old x52 throttle with the vkb stick at same time?
@giovannigiorgio3211
2 жыл бұрын
yes
@bw33511
3 жыл бұрын
What are the differences between the standard and premium? Wondering if it is worth the extra $30.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Dizz, i think it depends on what you fly. I would say that to some folks the thumbstick is nice, and the improved hat as well. Check out VKB's site, they have a nice graphic that compares the two. If they had the premium in stock when i ordered, i would've ordered that one for sure.
@bw33511
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast Thanks for the reply Jean, I ordered mine yesterday, got the premium as well. Looks like it comes with extra springs with different strengths. Looking forward to getting this and setting it up and my first flight with it. Gonna use my X52 pro throttle for right now, I heard VKB is working on a throttle....I will take a look at that once it is released. Thanks for your videos, I appreciate them.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
@@bw33511 I'm using my X52 pro throttle as well. But I can't wait to upgrade it. I'm also patiently waiting for the VKB Sim throttle, but it's been in development for so long. Who knows when it'll see the light of day.
@SadenIsWatchin
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast I think it's been indev for 4 years now. Crazy stuff.
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
@@SadenIsWatchin seriously, it's kinda crazy
@giovannigiorgio3211
2 жыл бұрын
had to re-glue the magnets. second trigger cracked, no longer works. too twitchy even with s-curve. decent for the price I guess.
@Royal8800
2 жыл бұрын
Merci! t'es français non ?
@w0monty494
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sad that VKB is so underated especially with the quality they have but glad cus $120 is wayyy better price too settle on
@Simenthusiast
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@truthfxl
Ай бұрын
can u share the control preset?
@tomhalal5525
2 жыл бұрын
VKB stick or Orion stick?
@Simenthusiast
2 жыл бұрын
That's a tough one. I'd say if you're more into space, VKB, if you're into Mil Sim, Orion. But honestly, its up to you.
@tomhalal5525
2 жыл бұрын
@@Simenthusiast Thanks for the reply, I went with the Orion since I ain't really into space simulators :) Do you have a discord server for flying in DCS?
@feisar
3 жыл бұрын
lol "brain melt"
@anttiruo
2 жыл бұрын
Just a warning. This stick has very unequal damping. In my stick there is a lot of damping forward, and little to the rear. A lot of damping to the left and little to the right. This is obviously due to the fact that it's done by damping grease and it's impossible to make it equal to all directions. I don't like it and can't recommend this stick. I did take the gimbal apart and put some more Nyogel but that didn't help.
@Khomann
Жыл бұрын
there are internal screws that you can tighten and loosen under the base plate. These screws control dampening. Its in the instructions
@arcrides6841
2 ай бұрын
@@Khomann those screws adjust the axes yes but he's saying that the damping is uneven across the axes individually. The adjustment screws wouldn't help with this. I would say that he just got a rare defect because I haven't heard this anywhere.
@MrTailspinstu
3 жыл бұрын
B
@Kaehvaman
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the premium version for 12k rubles. Arrived in an intact box without a single dent. after assembly, it turned out that the iron stand is bent, and the joystick is wobbly. After a long correspondence with VKB support, I sent them a plate for straightening. The plate came back....AND HE'S FUCKING WOBBLING AGAIN! ONLY IN THE OTHER DIRECTION BL$#$#$$#!!!! I did not expect this from such a seemingly well-known and reliable company... Not only did I not use the joystick for a month, they also released an updated version of gladiator a couple of days ago! (google translated)
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