I've just got back into mtb at the ripe old age of 41, just got back on my feet , lost my wife ,kids , job , car , house , ended up in the hostel system here in the UK. I got clean and see my sons loads. We bond over bikes , bikes with pedals , and bikes with motors. Not having much money , I managed to get a wrecked voodoo wazoo, fixed it up with the help of my sons, and absolutely love it. Thanks for the content 🙏
@K.V.P14
Жыл бұрын
Just watching, I put yellow nukeproof pedals and grips on my yellow wazoo !
@bikeandbeyond
Жыл бұрын
Liam, what an incredible journey. Glad to hear that you are on back on your feet. It’s great that you and your sons can bond over bikes. You got this!
@HughDWallace
8 ай бұрын
I've just bought a Bizango and my first purchase was the very same dropper post: got it for £50 from wiggle! Just about to buy the same grips too. Some of the other features (like wider bars and more tyre clearance) have been incorporated into the new version of the bike. I've also swapped out the existing brakes for a set of Shimano SLX from my old bike and I'm fitting mudguards. Maybe one day I will actually get to ride the thing! Future upgrades will be the headset bearings and wheels/hubs and I might fit a larger chainring as I will be using it more for gravel/XC than steep climbs. Tyres too once the OEMs are worn out a bit.
@bikeandbeyond
8 ай бұрын
Awesome. I made some similar upgrades soon after I got it and it has been running really well. I was thinking about the brakes but the bizango breaks soon to work better than the ones on my endurobike, so I have t touched them (apart from the occasional brake bleed every now and then).
@HughDWallace
8 ай бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond I changed the brakes purely on the basis that it didn't make any sense to leave better brakes sitting on a bike that will probably not get ridden all that much ever again.
@warrentyson3619
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the bizango done a lot to it here are my component upgrades: rockshox Judy forks,200mm front rotar,180mm rear,shimano mt500 front wheel with maxxis 2.3 high roller 2 ,slx rear brake,deore front brake,renthal bars (gold) 760mm , wake stem,dmr v6 pedals,odi black grips and planning to get the same dropper in this video 👍
@rbstretch100
3 жыл бұрын
Great video and to a very high standard, as usual. I'm 6'6" on a 22" Bizango and a bit ahead of you on the upgrades front: DMR V8 Pedals V2, 120mm Ascend dropper post, Tubeless Conversion, 60mm stem, XT BB, SLX 32 Tooth Cranks, SLX 11 speed derailleur and shifters, 11-46 SLX cassette, DT Swiss X1900 wheels, Maxis Minion DHR II up front, with Ardent remaining on the back, RT76 discs and metal pads Raidon forks serviced with oil for extra smoothness. Sounds a lot, but much of it driven by things being worn out. Headset also gone and about to replace with Hope headset, but just waiting for headset removal tool.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have been busy! I agree that it is a case of when something wears out it’s time to upgrade. I have a few more bits and pieces that I have my sights on.
@rbstretch100
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond I know a lot of people are annoyed about some of the standards used on a Bizango, but with a little research everything is upgradable. For example, DT Swiss, Hunt and Hope wheels can all cater for the 15mm non-boost front and the Boost QR rear. My wheels were just under £300, which I consider a v. good price for decent wheels with good hubs.
@duncangray3933
3 жыл бұрын
@@rbstretch100 would love to know the spec of your new Hope headset as mine needs replacing too.
@jamesgoatcher5397
3 жыл бұрын
@@duncangray3933 Me too as mine is on its way out. Plus the width of the rims you bought?
@duncangray3933
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgoatcher5397 For anyone interested I have replaced my 2020 Bizango headset with a Cane Creek 40 series ZeroStack 1 1/8 Inch Black x Tall, upgraded the crank to a GX Eagle Dub 175mm with a Sram Dub BSA BB 68/73. Bike feels like new - v pleased with result.
@CraigusUK
3 жыл бұрын
My Bizango Upgrades So Far, Hope Headset, Spacers and Stem, Renthal Fatbar Lite 760mm/40mm Rise, DMR Death Grips, Stans Tubeless Conversion, Schwalbe Nobby Nic Super Trail 2.35/29 Soft Front, SpeedGrip Rear, Mucky Nuts Mud Guard's and Frame Protection, Shimano XT 8120 4 Pot Front Brake on 203mm Ice Tech Rotor, Shimano XT 8100 2 Pot Rear Brake on 180mm Ice Tech Rotor, Shimano XT Levers and Hoses, Sram GX Shifter, Sram NX DUB Crankset 170mm, Shimano XT Pedals and Sram DUB Bottom Bracket, One Up Components 120mm Dropper Post, Shimano SL-MT800 I-Spec EV Lever, Ergon Sport Gel Seat. and other various trinkets Computer, Lights etc.
@SeanMackay-zx3il
4 ай бұрын
I had it I snapped it so I got a Marin rift zone 2
@2112bigpete
3 жыл бұрын
First thing I changed, pretty much within the first week, was the brake discs. I didn't like the lever feel on the ugly Shimano discs so I swapped them out for SRAM discs 180/180 feels and looks much better. Bars, grips and dropper post soon followed.
@GoodLifeMoto
3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel🤙.I also love my bizango, bought it second hand last year after reading the reviews and wanting a bit of a bike build during lockdown. It was in quite good condition frame wise but the components had been neglected. List of upgrades: Brand x dropper (after your recommendation) Nukeproof seat clamp (purple) Nukeproof horizon 800mm bars (purple) Orange DMR death grips (large) SRAM dub bottom bracket SRAM nx cranks SRAM 11sp chain Hope fortus wheels Hope pro 4 hubs and conversion kit. Maxxis minion2.3 DHR & DHF (rear is 120tpi) Muc off tubeless conversion Race face Chester pedals on order (purple) NEXT brake upgrade 🤔
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the breaks are in my list to do too. Good work on the hope wheels and hubs. I think they are a super reliable brand.
@delb1617
3 жыл бұрын
Really useful video - thanks. 👍🏻
@robmartyn7315
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just ordered a Bizango and will be picking it up on Friday. Very excited and really useful upgrades to know for the future. A suspension video would be a great future addition when you get round to servicing yours.
@will_mtb3111
3 жыл бұрын
What forks does it come with because his do not look like rocksock
@seanmetcalfe2795
2 жыл бұрын
@@will_mtb3111 suntours
@elliotdennick
3 жыл бұрын
Wicked, can't wait to continue upgrading mine!
@johnrichards7847
3 жыл бұрын
should look into x fusion their value for money on forks is insane especially for a used set. you should be able to fit an external headset cup if your steerer tube isn't already tapered. that's what I did to my voodoo hoodoo to fit an xfusion velvet
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one thanks. I will take a look.
@adampursglove88
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Will look to do some of these upgrades on mine 👍🏻
@DhiscoStu
Жыл бұрын
Fantastically usful vid, thanks for posting :)
@slabbyrider8665
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 5ft 11 3/4 and I couldn't feel much in it between the 18 & 20. As I was buying for fun and trails I decided on the 18. However I've ended up recently doing some long road miles with the seat post on max limit which is spot on height for road riding for me and rode 36 miles in total comfort....other than a very sore arse.
@TRBLureFishing
3 жыл бұрын
Loving your content mate. I'm at a point where im going to upgrade my bizango. Rear wheel is on the list, but im unsure of the compatibility of wheels on the market. Hoping you could shed some light on this for me please?
@Cous1nJack
3 жыл бұрын
Like your content mate. Please get a bolt up seat clamp, if only for looks! Dropper and qr don’t marry.
@DJFXC
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Its amazing how much difference some little upgrades can make, although you are correct - most important thing is to just get out and ride!
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
We all love buying new bike bits, but sometimes we have just got to get out and ride.
@aaronstanyer9393
3 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to hear ur thoughts on upgrading the forks as i also have a Bizango and i am considering the same thing (instead of the cost of a new bike with better parts as i thnk the frame is great) also changing the rear rotor to a larger size possibly 180mm to match the front. cheers enjoying the videos!
@iamyodi
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, unlike others not boring and good content. Thanks for sharing it.
@iamyodi
3 жыл бұрын
PS. If you see this, what trainers were the ones you showed?
@simbo5681
3 жыл бұрын
Good video can really change the feel of the bike with upgrades. Iv done similar to mine tyres bars etc but also brakes. A good cheap upgrade is putting a 180mm rotor on the rear. Be interesting to see what route you go with forks, the standard radion forks can adjust to 130mm I just did this on mine last week
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the feel of the bike definitely changes once you tweak it to the way you like to ride. Breaks are high up on my upgrades list at the moment. Taking my time with the forks, but want to get something a bit better suited to my riding.
@simbo5681
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond yeah I’m on a xl bazingo and weigh 105kg that and living in scotland I found the standard brakes not up to the job, the rear rotor upgrade makes a difference but ultimately I ended up putting 4 pot xt brakes on it and upgrading the rotors for sintered pad use. The derore 4 pots are good value but I couldn’t find any stock of them. Great videos by the way help me to decide on getting the voodoo last summer.
@DanEscapes
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video and keep up with it!! I've been looking at getting the voodoo Bizango but always out of stock when I look online!!
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. All bikes seem to still be out of stock everywhere. Really annoying!
@rbstretch100
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond Also one the reasons for doing so many upgrades on mine - I couldn't buy a better bike even if I wanted to!
@rooberry-music
3 жыл бұрын
Just got the last 16" frame this week! There's a few 18 and 20" frames in stock now!
@DanEscapes
3 жыл бұрын
@@rooberry-music I was wondering what size I should get, I’m 5’8” it says the max for the 16 is 5’9” or should I get the 18?
@rooberry-music
3 жыл бұрын
@@DanEscapes so I'm 5'8" too and when i dismount onto the front (heels to the floor) my crotch is barely an inch off the top of the frame. I have a 30" inside leg. I'd say go for the 16", I haven't tried the 18" but I have a feeling I won't have enough clearance if I have to suddenly dismount. Ouch😅
@fabienleguilcher4776
3 жыл бұрын
You may have done this already but when you install deathgrips they don’t slide on completely so you’ve got to hit them to get them on all the way.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's right, I had to give them a couple of taps to get them on properly.
@jjgkicker
3 жыл бұрын
A tip, if you spray hair spray inside the grips they slide on like a knife through butter, just have to wait for them to try before riding but saves the risk of a) hurting yourself b) damaging anything :) hope this helps
@derekkinnish2379
3 жыл бұрын
In fact I was hoping you could help bike and beyond?
@averagekeyboardenjoyers.3327
3 жыл бұрын
I got a frame protector kit for my bizango
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a very good shout!
@dentydent6423
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea,I've just had a front tyre puncture on my first ride! You were so right about going tubeless.
@AdventureTrailsMTB
3 жыл бұрын
Thinking about building another hardtail. May go a little freaky
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
How freaky are we talking? A super mullet with a 26 inch jump bike wheel on the back, a fat bike tyre on the front and a set of DH forks. Now that is a build ride video I would definitely watch!
@donniedarrochreid557
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bike and beyond, are these tyres/wheels really tubeless ready? Heard they werent! If they are can you list the stuff you needed and a cost? Thanks mate,videos are great!
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
I have heard mixed reviews about the bizango going tubeless. A few people said they had issues. My local bike shop converted mine a while back and I personally didn’t have any problems.
@Tyler-lz4pu
3 жыл бұрын
I've got this bike
@phatwayne
3 жыл бұрын
Just the dropper post added to my Bizango so far, also went for the Brand X Ascend. I wonder why? ;) New bars next I think as I do find them a bit narrow.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. The dropper is the hard one because it is the most expensive. The brand x bars I got were just £20. They are just as good as any other bar I have ridden with.
@phatwayne
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond I'll give them a look 👍
@tjwilliams7566
3 жыл бұрын
Hi , is the bizango tubeless ready , great video.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
I converted mine with no issues (and know a few people who have done the same), however a couple of people have contacted me saying they theirs didn't work.
@sixwestpoint
2 жыл бұрын
Just fitted the 125mm version of the brand X dropper but I’ve noticed about 2mm of rotational play in the internal section so my seat rotates very slightly. Do yous do the same?
@darthbobblehead
3 жыл бұрын
Pedals ☑️ Dropper☑️ Grips☑️ Tubeless☑️ Great video as always. How did u know ur bottom bracket was knacked? Mine has started to make a creaking noise on every pedal. Thinking it might be buggered.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I found out that it was knackered because my cranks felt loose and clunky when riding. I inspected the cranks and found no issues, so took the BB out and found that it was wobbly.
@adamburgess6770
3 жыл бұрын
Creaking is a pretty good sign the bb has had it to be honest.
@derekkinnish2379
3 жыл бұрын
Can anybody help please? I want to get a new headset for my bizango but can't find the specifications I need? TIA
@gregwilliams2011
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can you help. I took my final bike check with my bizango at Halfords owning it less than a year and they said the rear wheel is cracked. I'd noticed a sound for a while but had no idea it was that serious. Anyway they said I need a new one as too dangerous to cycle. Not under guarantee either which is very annoying as 'moving part''. I don't ride that extreme so very disappointed - have never had a back wheel crack before. Could you recommmend a replacement back wheel and where to buy it? I've got a 20 inch 29er. Desperate to get back out there! Thanks
@ianbleach
3 жыл бұрын
Hey fellow Bizango owners! I’m after a bit of help, I have the bizango which i purchased last summer and love it. My only gripe is that I cannot get the front of the bike sorted, it just doesn’t feel safe. When I get to any descent, and build up some speed, I can feel a judder/vibration through the fork which gets worse under gentle braking. I’ve loosened and tightened the headset many times but find I end up with stiff steering when eradicating the judder, so I start to loosen off but re-introduce the judder. I don’t know what else to do, it ruins the enjoyment whilst out riding as I can’t enjoy the downhill parts. Anyone had the issue? Or know how I can fix it? Also, any adjustments I can make to the fork as it just doesn’t feel soft enough?!
@116tem
3 жыл бұрын
I’m 187cm, would a size L bizango fit? I have a carrera vengeance size L who fits okay but the seat has to be quite high for long rides and it causes me to lay forwards quite a lot and gives back pain. Wondering if someone could advise, I’m interested in either the hoodoo or the bizango, for cross country riding, and the covid makes it not possible to try before buying. Not sure what’s size I should go for
@rebelmc33
3 жыл бұрын
Have you upgraded the headset, if so what did you get, cheers
@cathalmurphy100
2 жыл бұрын
Would the voodoo bizango fit 2.4 ardent tyres?
@lewisbell3036
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just after a quick bit of advice as I’m planning to order a Bizango this week. I’m just under 5ft10. So according to size guides I could fall into either the M or L frame. Is there any pros and cons you can offer as to which to go for, as you’re a similar size to me. I’m more tempted to go for the M. Thank you.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
That's a tricky one. The risk of going to big is that you will find the bike tough to handle and you will be too overstretched when riding. If you go too small you could feel too cramped. If you are used to a 27.5, a 29er can feel a bit big just because of the larger wheels, but you will get used to that. I had the same dilemma when I was looking to by my Bizango. The bets thing to do is go and sit on one (which I know is tricky when the UK is in and out of lockdowns all the time at the moment). Sitting on it will give you the best idea of how comfortable you feel and see how appropriate the bike is for you.
@rooberry-music
3 жыл бұрын
These do run larger, Im 5'8", had an 18" hybrid bike (carerra subway) before, but had to downsize to 16" frame on the bizango. 18" didn't have enough top bar clearance for me, my crotch was hitting the bar when standing. 16" felt just right however. So if you're 5'10" I would recommend going for the smaller of the two frame sizes the website puts you at, so go for M.
@paulludlow6280
3 жыл бұрын
In my experience 5’10 is borderline on sizing, the 20 was too big to have the dropper (externally routed off my old bike) I exchanged for size 18 which was perfect
@lewisbell3036
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the comments, really useful. I had a nip out earlier and tried the 20. Too big for me. I’ve ordered the 18 for delivery this week. Pretty sure that’s going to be perfect.
@will_mtb3111
3 жыл бұрын
It says the bike comes with rockshock suspension is that true
@octavianpopescu5254
3 жыл бұрын
I got this bike and I love it. I’m wondering if I can change the 32t crankset with 34t or 36t? I feel that I need more speed on flat terrain.
@jamesgoatcher5397
3 жыл бұрын
I fitted a super star components 36t to mine. I use it mainly for winter when I convert the bike to more of a hybrid with faster running tyres as the trails just get too wet and wild in deep winter. It is perfect as the original would not have enough pace to match the tyres even on the flats. I did use it on my local trails(Friston forest, south downs) but found I preferred the original as we have some very steep climbers.
@octavianpopescu5254
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgoatcher5397 thanks!
@ryanabenojar6095
3 жыл бұрын
Hi there can I go with size 20 large frame. I am 5’9”. Always watching your videos about your bizango and your trail rides. I am eyeing on bizango and reserved size large. Just a little confused. Thanks.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Hello mate. It will depends what style riding you do. I am 5”10 and ride a large. It seems fine to me, but I was new to 29” wheels and thought it felt big at first. I always advise sitting on a couple of sizes first. That way you know it will be right for you.
@ryanabenojar6095
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond thanks mate. But halfords does not allow it for the meantime as per their guidelines. Can’t find the standover height in the internet. Well maybe road biking and eventually try some local trails. Just new here in england mate. First ever mtb.
@Luna-JB
3 жыл бұрын
Will a 2.3 dhr ii rear & dhf 2.4 front fit on this bike? You say 2.3 or 2.4 but which is which?
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Both of mine are 2.3 which are good. Chain Reaction Cycles and Bike Radar say that a 2.4 will fit on front and back, but it will be pretty close.
@application5857
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2.6 on the front of mine! Ridden it all year and no hiccups.
@Luna-JB
3 жыл бұрын
@@application5857 Yh the fork can handle bigger tyres it’s just the rear that i was worried about
@application5857
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottedwardhiggins7823 I couldn't find anything official but 2.6 on front is working fine for me. I kept the originals on the back so I wouldnt know about that. I went for the Maxxis Minion DHF Wide Trail 3C/EXO/TR Tire - 29 x 2.6in on the front.
@application5857
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottedwardhiggins7823 Clearance is fairly tight, just over 1 cm perhaps? You can't fit a mudguard on it no.
@phatwayne
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone have a good recommendation for mudguards?
@octavianpopescu5254
3 жыл бұрын
Muckynutz
@phatwayne
3 жыл бұрын
@@octavianpopescu5254 I'll check them out, thanks.
@phillipstewart2031
Жыл бұрын
I just got this exact version, are the wheels tubeless ready as I have TR tires
@bikeandbeyond
Жыл бұрын
Nice. Yeah it comes tubeless ready.
@phillipstewart2031
Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the fast reply! Thought only the newer one had rims compatible! Definitely will sub thanks for the help
@phillipstewart2031
Жыл бұрын
I tried today but struggled, think it's because I'm using a hand pump
@will_mtb3111
3 жыл бұрын
What fork does the bike come with
@declanjones8707
3 жыл бұрын
Suntour Raidon 32 LOC
@adammyers2007
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, will a 150mm dropper be ok on an 18 Inch frame, I'm 5ft 10. I noticed on one of your earlier videos it said you did 150mm but on recent videos it looks to be 120mm. Any advice would be great.
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I have only ever had the 120mm on my Voodoo Bizango. It fits well on the 20'' frame. People have told me that the 150 will fit on the 20'' frame but I am not sure how much shorter the seat tube is on the 18'' compared to 20''. The worst that would happen is that it would stick out the frame an inch or so. That is not a huge issue for dropper posts, as we rarely have them all the way in the seat tube anyway.
@adammyers2007
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeandbeyond brilliant thank you! I have just bought my Bizango and did so based on your review + MTRs. Pick it up Saturday! Love the videos and keep up the good work!
@slabbyrider8665
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottedwardhiggins7823 L being 20in or do you mean XL 22in
@odinairsoftuk9809
3 жыл бұрын
Does the renthal fat bar fit this bike?
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Best thing to do is check the size of the renthal against the sizing of the bars I fitted in this vid (sizes are in the video description). If they don’t fit you may have to change your stem.
@phillipwade9425
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.. after much research I bought a Bizango and collect next week. My first MB! All things to do with maintenance and upgrades will be completely new to me, but is sounds like common upgrades are relatively straightforward?! Dropper and tubeless seem the first two to look at?
@bikeandbeyond
3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Yeah all the upgrades in this video are pretty straight forward. The dropper post can be a bit awkward, but lucking you get instruction with them :)
@porkyparry1
Жыл бұрын
I considered this bike however, alas, I couldn't possibly ride a bike with such a preposterous name.
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