I purchased the Vortex Defender CCW in May 2024 and can confirm the auto sleep timer was changed from 14 hours to 10 minutes. It states this on the packaging. The new version also has a better refresh rate. 👍🏼
@rickw5024
4 ай бұрын
This makes HUGE sense, Now I can go buy a couple thanks for the update. 14 hours was a killer for me and made ZERO sense
@laptopdragon
Жыл бұрын
the redundant screws is something so small, inexpensive and yet incredibly important. Props for them on their foresight.
@matthewshelton9573
7 ай бұрын
Nothing worse than waiting and waiting to finally recieve your red dot then realizing you now need to order new screws and wait another week.. *cough cough* holosun eps
@Pinkskull69420
6 ай бұрын
@@matthewshelton9573>he doesn't have a file
@scaleworksRC
Жыл бұрын
You're a pillar of our community and I appreciate the "authentic" testing. The weight of the rounds alone makes a huge difference!
@Tabrox5
Жыл бұрын
This is the only positive review I've seen so far. Several others say it's junk.
@williambaker4417
Жыл бұрын
Would appreciate a comparison between the Vortex and the Holosun once you’ve completed testing both. I’ve always been very satisfied with Vortex products. Thanks for the review.
@JNOSNOW
Жыл бұрын
Sure seems like a holosun for vortex people. Probably made by by the holosun peoples cousins down the road.
@PkwyDrive13
Жыл бұрын
Holosun is better for sure
@cowboyx9380
11 ай бұрын
@@PkwyDrive13Both made in the exact same factory in China….go figure
@throttlerecon
11 ай бұрын
Both come from the same factory type
@ckidphotography1318
Ай бұрын
I've heard mixed reviews. This settles my decision. Having the lifetime warranty was catching my eye and with this drop test and torture test ik which one imma get for my p365. Thanks for a great review. You got a new follower 💪🏼🤘🏼
@vladyakubets
6 ай бұрын
I’m glad that Vortex made rolling updates to shorten the auto shutoff time to ten minutes and to fix the refresh rate. Makes this red dot so much better of an option
@gonerydin4225
Жыл бұрын
I got mine yesterday. Digging it so far. It's a big step up from the old Viper/Venom red dots.
@Mrgunsngear
Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@leadhead7338
Жыл бұрын
Great customer Service, my 35 Whelen recoil broke my Cross hairs in my scope, and they replaced it no questions!
@Mrgunsngear
Жыл бұрын
nice
@tauruslove86
Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to you and Steven Crowder’s collaboration. Been following both you guys for a long time now.
@leonmorgan7338
Жыл бұрын
same here, very excited.
@rubenaguirre168
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they'll shoot some Walthers
@DevonReclaimed
Жыл бұрын
Crowder is a clown who wears dresses 💃
@JLC87420
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@chiefro7
Жыл бұрын
Whaaat?! When is this happening?!
@chadblaha69
Жыл бұрын
Steven says try the Walther! 😂 I can’t wait to see what’s up coming with that collaboration.
@nicks9541
Жыл бұрын
Somehow you managed to get a shirt more based than your regular ones. Fight like hell!
@AEtrane
Жыл бұрын
I was on the fence with this one, but I think Mike just pushed me with this video!
@frmtheden
5 ай бұрын
I had the EPS Carry and front screen got a crack after having it for about 800 Rounds or 2 months time of carrying and switched to the Defender CCW and so far the one glass just generally seems more durable and love the texture on the front of the sight!
@FrankCastle694
Жыл бұрын
Bro I’m so freaking stoked that your gonna be one mug club hopefully you won’t have to deal with the KZitem suppression crap anymore
@chrisballestrazze8577
Жыл бұрын
"lets make sure we are zero'd"..proceeds to shoot mirror of his taco lol. great video!
@Aonghuis
Жыл бұрын
Looks promising. Those two drops on a steel plate were impressive.
@2realink279
Жыл бұрын
Finally a new intro song. No shade. Love the content 🫶
@TacticalConsiderations
Жыл бұрын
Awesome man. Congrats on the New gig with Crowder.
@vielumiereg9794
Жыл бұрын
The lower refresh rate is something I actually never even thought about until it was brought up tbh. I don't think that would bother me much in my personal opinion. Top loading battery is a big selling point for me. Having to re-zero after every time you change the battery never made sense to me.
@paulgrogan8032
Жыл бұрын
Being a big Vortex guy, b4 you even started dropping it,I went looking for prices. Absolutely delighted to find it for $249.00👏
@gsxawd981
Жыл бұрын
My problem is battery life. This thing almost lasts as long as an Eotech.
@thelocalpizzaguy2180
Жыл бұрын
Louder with Crowder YEAH BUDDY!
@wildcat8598
Жыл бұрын
Never been a big fan of Vortex pistol optics but this one looks promising. They’ve done some great things with rifle red dots, LPVO’s and magnifiers. I like the Vortex Micro 3x flip magnifier. Had one for a few years and it’s held up well as I’ve beat the shit out of it lol
@chrisduncan440
Жыл бұрын
I have the vortex micro magnifier. The eye relief is horrible.
@TC-ob9we
Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother glad your back!!
@transtubular
Жыл бұрын
It's not a refresh rate Mike, it's known in the industry as Pulse Width Modulation. It's cheap and easy to implement as there are many "off-the-shelf" drivers available and so the electronics can usually be had for pennies per board.
@douglasm3310
Жыл бұрын
This is the correct answer vortex is well known for using PWM in their dots. One reason I really don’t like their red dots.
@DarwinAllen
Жыл бұрын
@@douglasm3310 same here. Holosun uses better tech for this in all of the optics of theirs that I own and this is the deciding factor for me over Vortex in the more budget friendly red dots.
@MegadethTillDeth
Жыл бұрын
Oh that's really interesting I didn't know that. What are some of the major differences between the two that you're aware of?
@transtubular
Жыл бұрын
@MegadethTillDeth If the pulse is slow enough, you will see it as a flicker when moving quickly, say when moving to shoot two separate targets in rapid succession. It appears as a strobing effect and can be really difficult to over come. Current controlled optics don't do this at all.
@jasonsell8523
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new show!! Can't wait to see you on Crowder's network man God bless you!
@David-nd2gf
Жыл бұрын
Heard the news on Crowder man congrats looking forward to the future segments Good luck and thank you for your service, Sacrifice.
@Bedlam_6
Жыл бұрын
Louder with Crowder! Great video, thanks
@nickgreer9771
Ай бұрын
awesome test! Just a small aiming tip: your dropping your head every time you aim. Bring pistol sight up to eye level without dropping head
@glx1620
Жыл бұрын
I have the Vortex Viper and Venom on some of my pistols and actually looking for one with a shake awake feature in which the two doesn't have. I'll get this one because of that feature and their excellent lifetime warranty.
@Mrgunsngear
Жыл бұрын
🔴
@dodgeit3014
Жыл бұрын
Just came to say I see you man. Good stuff going with Steven.
@mattstone6989
Жыл бұрын
I'm digging this from what I've seen. And the price seems really reasonable. Love your channel brother
@mattstone6989
Жыл бұрын
F off and get a life🫡
@MrSpECIALn01
Жыл бұрын
I love the shirts. Louder With Crowder.
@jonathanparker2553
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on partnering with Steven crowder I’m super pumped for you
@jp2578
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful review because I was seriously considering one. Thanks.
@Mrgunsngear
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍🏽
@ryangr100
Жыл бұрын
Mine arrived today. Now I have to wait for a mounting plate for my SigXFive. Until then I amp going to put it on my S&W Victory PC.22lr. Thanks for the review.
@jameslonano5659
Жыл бұрын
I've seen some crying on the 14 hour shut off but its a non issue if you replace your batteries annually **like we all do anyway** its a non issue with this optic. 9500 hours is 395 days if left on full time. I just don't see the issue here. And with the top battery cap, there is no excuse!
@mike17912A
Жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I just picked up my mete mc9 and been debating on which optic to add to it. This may be the one.
@fangoriously1
Жыл бұрын
Same, my mc9 is on order to the local gun shop. Can't wait. Need an optic. Let me know how ya like it.
@barttaylor9176
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the crowder move!! Very exciting to see you over there🦅
@madeconomist458
Жыл бұрын
They definitely have a winner, now we just need a bigger one with an RMR footprint.
@rhinosauserous
Жыл бұрын
Good job on the video of Louder with Crowder that dropped today.
@anthonyfanella6523
Жыл бұрын
I can see why the commenters would get butthurt, but you're more likely to drop your gun fully loaded than you would without any rounds in there. Plus, its a good way to test that drop safety!
@M0nkeybomber
Жыл бұрын
As always a perfect review. I'm now considering it for my G 43
@hello-u2w
2 ай бұрын
I just purchased this red dot from my Benelli M4. hope its a good one
@John_439
Жыл бұрын
I wish their shake awake feature was shorter and better like holosun. Shake awake means you do not need 14hrs of constant on 3min is just fine and saves a lot of battery life.
@nickjohnson8780
Жыл бұрын
I sent my viper in because the emitter got messed up. While their warranty is nice and replaced it for free, I would rather wait to get an enclosed optic rather than another slightly better open top for my other pistols. Wonder why they didn't...
@onelineshirtcompany9754
Жыл бұрын
U definitely put that to the test, I'm impressed
@ilyar5868
2 ай бұрын
GNARLY… Word of the day…
@davidpyle7333
Жыл бұрын
The shim plate is actually a 1 degree slope, some optic cuts need it to allow zero'ing if there's not enough travel on the optic's adjustment screws. I needed one to get a Vortex Razor to work on a EAA Girsan MC1911.
@gonerydin4225
Жыл бұрын
I see someone else read the manual! : )
@a10sim
Жыл бұрын
Ordered one today for my 43X. Thanks for your review.
@BiggHoss
Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you're apart of mug club!
@HawaiiFoodAndFun
Жыл бұрын
Looks good, but since PA came out with the RS-10 w the Autolive/7075 construction for under 200, it's hard to beat.
@Three60Crusader
Жыл бұрын
I heard the refresh rate on that one is really bad.
@HawaiiFoodAndFun
Жыл бұрын
@@Three60Crusader I've heard ups and down. Would like to test one.
@truesf345
Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely gonna give it a try , great vid as usual thanks
@elliottcapone2682
Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see the crowder merch. Guy is a true believer.
@KrishnaMusicc
Жыл бұрын
I'm really interested in seeing you do a torture test/review on the new Holosun EPS carry man. They've been flyinggggg off shelves.
@Beastro777
Жыл бұрын
holosun is bombproof, other than the issues with some quality control
@b0lobattali0n78
Жыл бұрын
Haven't had any issues with any of my holosuns. I have 3 rmrs and 9 holosuns. Started to prefer the 507cs and 507ks.
@Osprey1994
Жыл бұрын
The EPSc has been great, I had to carry a dust bowl of an open emitter for a couple of days, and I don't think I would be able to deal with the build-up after a week. The EPSc is so easy to clean.
@thomaskeshel3874
Жыл бұрын
My EPS carry died within two mags on my 48. 50+ days later I’m still waiting on a replacement and they said I “might” get allocated one from their shipment at the end of next week.
@robriner3144
Ай бұрын
I added a defender CCW to my mete mc9 and it is fine for my small CCW.
@Slking507
Жыл бұрын
Never realised you were a Taco guy. The best truck ever made. (In my opinion)
@glenembry9041
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@DavidJ-gh3fw
10 ай бұрын
Hey Mike, I really appreciate your reviews covering a multitude of weapons and accessories! You're always in-depth and honest with your comments. I recently purchased the Vortex Defender CCW and didn't think to check my slide on my Glock 19 gen 3 (non mos). Consequently, I have a mounting issue. My question is: Do you have any issues with using an adapter plate for mounting in the dovetail rear sight or would you just recommend purchasing a cut slide or have mine cut to the proper footprint? The videos I've seen on the adapter plates SEEM secure but I don't have any experience with said adapters so I don't know if they would move or stay put. Appreciate your input. Thanks Mike!
@matthuber1333
Жыл бұрын
Props on the crowder shirt. Props to Crowder propping you in his latest interviews...
@Three60Crusader
Жыл бұрын
Very nice optic for 250. I got one coming for my shield plus.
@Honda1k
29 күн бұрын
How do you like it. I'm thinking of this dot or the Crimson Trace RAD Micro Pro for my shield
@dangerdoberman
Жыл бұрын
I like the housing design on it, but I'll stick with Holosun for now.
@chiefro7
Жыл бұрын
“You guys dont like authentic testing” lmfao Gettem buddy!
@patthis
Жыл бұрын
Great review, I bet Vortex was shitting their pants when you were racking that hard 😂
@generalsworkshop
11 ай бұрын
First of all, great video. Really appreciated the content. Now that you had eight months to sit with it, is your opinion still that it’s a great site? I’ve got a Glock 17 that I’m looking at adding it to. Thanks again for all your content.
@jasonmcclish2580
Жыл бұрын
Nice looks like I will be buying a vortex for the first time. Great video ..
@ungerjs90
Жыл бұрын
Looks good but when will they make a different full size pistol dot?
@LordSStorm
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the drop testing.
@larrysalinas4507
Жыл бұрын
I have one coming for my Hellcat. Thanks for the review.
@itszach6808
Жыл бұрын
Put one on mine. It’s a beast
@eatsshootsandleavestactica8068
Жыл бұрын
forget the comments section! Test the guns with a loaded magazine or equivalent weight in them! If my gun drops off a tailgate at the outdoor range or gets torn out of my holster defending myself from an ambush (or in some sort of Shivworks-style training I'd like to take in the future) I want to know if the optic I'm running is gonna hold up if the full loaded weight hits the ground. Why would people think the only time they have to worry about when their gun could take an impact is when it's unloaded?
@atranimecs
Жыл бұрын
You could also say how often is a gun dropped on a hard metal surface vs dirt?
@isaiahharris4106
Жыл бұрын
Super excited to see you working with Steven! Let's go!
@A-Negative
Жыл бұрын
Expected that to be a louder with powder shirt hahaha
@jigsawpulse1139
Жыл бұрын
He would be sued by that crossdressing grifter
@wollsmoth69
Жыл бұрын
@@jigsawpulse1139 parody falls under fair use
@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330
Жыл бұрын
@@jigsawpulse1139 crowder isn’t a grifter ya daft boomer
@terrellstandefer6646
Жыл бұрын
Same thing I thought, was waiting on the joke. Nope, it's actually the mug club shirt now here comes a no no for this channel.
@Bladen1000
Жыл бұрын
Glad your joining crowder buddy
@dang2045
Жыл бұрын
It’s about time Vortex came out with an RMSc footprint, not maybe they’ll upgrade their dated Viper and Venom.
@Mrgunsngear
Жыл бұрын
Inshallah
@jamesboston3910
Жыл бұрын
Louder with Crowder!
@lllllpdsllll
Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking foward to seeing you on mugclub
@hopewilliams6705
Жыл бұрын
I think I just found my a replacement for my Swampfox sentinel
@Bad_Company055
Жыл бұрын
The way he looked at it after dropping had me lmao!!
@chrissewell1608
Жыл бұрын
I know the cover photo was a close up shot, but I wanted to see more close up photos, during the film. Because I think this one has some knurling on the window frame, to allow for a good grip when table racking!
@FrankCastle694
Жыл бұрын
Sage dynamics smiling as he seeing proper testing
@boy2quick414
Жыл бұрын
Just got my MC9 and been going back and forth between this red dot and the 407k for it, any thoughts on comparing the two?
@NotoriousTIG22
Жыл бұрын
CONGRATS ON JOINING MUG CLUB!!!!
@hansblitz7770
Жыл бұрын
Dude, you're going to be on Crowder? Freakin cool!
@humorss
Жыл бұрын
When moving fast or during recoil, the reticle appears as dotted line, also under certain lighting conditions your eyes will pick up the flashing even when stationary. next time just look at the dot with a phone, camera pick it up well. Some say its distracting but if that is all I have I'm good with it. glass on this is quality, not completely clear but I say top 10%. Unlike vortex rifle dots, I don't think its a good price in the current market, going down or up bushnell rx250 and eotech eflx are both good options with clean glass.
@M9A1MAN
Жыл бұрын
Great video bro. Can you do a video on how you zero a pistol red dot? I'm kinda old school and just now getting into installing a redot on my M&P9.
@MF-Rell
Жыл бұрын
The slo mo was epic 😂😂😂
@albertmedalla3941
Жыл бұрын
Love the top loading battery vs tray
@dillonc7955
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a big optics fanatic, so an optic that allows me to co witness my irons is a must. That plus the durability is making this hard not to try.
@guardiangibbs2663
Жыл бұрын
Surprised/not surprised to see you working with Steven Crowder. I look forward to your contributions.
@michaelgomez0807
Жыл бұрын
Can you review the cyelee cat pro optic?
@cameronbeall1797
Жыл бұрын
I just picked up my Canik mc9 too !
@Wade-1
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Vortex is still 10 years behind on pistol dots. No shake awake, no 50k battery life. Wth are they doing?
@DoormanDan88
Жыл бұрын
Fight like hell Mug Club!
@CapSmash31292
Жыл бұрын
Awesome Review! Could I mount this in the Beretta APX A1?
@recker3168
Жыл бұрын
What camo pants are you wearing?? Also awesome review.
@ronhunt9396
Жыл бұрын
Great test , great video
@frankdamelio1664
Жыл бұрын
Hellcat Micro , does it need a mounting adapter? 3 or 6 red 🔴 what do you recommend??
@soggycracker5934
Жыл бұрын
This costs more than the Canik was when it came out... What part of chinastan is it made in?
@fattigla
Жыл бұрын
What brightness setting did you have to use in bright daylight?
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