You're conversions look great!! I Really enjoyed this video. It seems overly hard to find in depth kill team content on factions and strats! Keep up the good work! Really great to see your channel growing 🙂
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Charlie! Have you checked out 3s to Wound? He has great breakdowns. Very cool to hear 🙏 really appreciate the nice vibes
@TheGilzam
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. A lot of faction videos are just reading the stat lines.
@GFNGaming
2 жыл бұрын
I have just finished painting my vet guard team today so this is perfect! love Phils cameo. Great work bud! The guys looks great man, nice work!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, nice! Can’t wait to see them make their way on the channel. Did you use the Octarius kit? Or is this a GFN kitbashing special?
@GFNGaming
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop Yeah, its part of the 2022 plan. learn all of the non compendium teams. Ordered some GSC characters for Wyrmblade so i can beef up my current GSC roster for the narrative (and other games) so felt only fair to upgrade Emma's imperium roster with the Vet Guard. I've moved onto the Kommandos now.... its a slow work day :D. Nah i'm being pretty lazy just doing them vanilla. I could be tempted to do a Mordian Iron Guard Vet guard kitbash - always been my favourite.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
@@GFNGaming I don’t know much about Mordians beside the uniform. Will have to educate myself. Yeah, me too! Now that there’s more bespoke stuff out there, seems like a good time to make the jump. Kommandos are next for me too, but I want to convert them somehow. The problem is they’re such great models as is
@GFNGaming
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop hahah honestly i know very little about the Mordian Iron guard, my favouritism is based solely on i think they look cool..... im the shallow hal of miniature gaming. Oh nice! looking forward to seeing them.
@Lamhfada1337
2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, I just finished converting my Vet Guard from Cadians and genestealer cult brood brother parts. Now the Grimms World 7th takes the glory of the (four armed) Emperor to every imperial world they fight for!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brother 🙏 Nice! You should send me some pics of your conversions if you have any. Love a good guard conversion
@r_4_k-drone4321
2 жыл бұрын
Since Krieg Vets were published, I've been toying with idea of expanding Gaunt's Ghosts HQ box into new Kill Team. Ofc, Ghosts are 6 model pack, and Veterans aren't exactly the mix I needed, but after some pondering I've managed to decide what will work. I've started with assigning Veteran "roles" to original 6 models from Ghosts: 1. Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt got, ofc, leader (sergeant) role. With boltpistol + chainsword, because that's what this model has (would prefer plasma, but well..) 2. Larkin with his long-las was obvious choice for Sniper veteran 3. Rawne was expert in demolitions, so he got role of Demo Vet 4. Bragg has autocannon on his model.. which forced me to give him role of Confidant Veteran with boltgun loadout 5. Corbec got role of a Zealot veteran 6. Mkoll was assigned simply Trooper role (would give him Spotter, but it was lore-wise better for someone next) now, I've taken some Catachan auction-rescue models. After lots of cutting, adjusting equipment and modelling their cloaks with green-stuff, I've got: 7. "Shoggy" Domor with his eye implants, who got Spotter Veteran role 8. Brostin, books pyro enthusiast, who ofc got Flamer Gunner role 9. Lesp modeled with extra medkit bag took role of field Medic 10. Varl in book got mechanical arm replacement, made him ideal for Hardened Veteran 11. Raglon was communications specialist, so naturally he got Comms Vet role that left me with 3 models to organise. Since Ghosts in books aren't using plasma or melta, I went with 2nd gunner as Gren. Launcher Veteran, and added 2 usual Troops with lasguns. Not the strongest composition, but as a fluff tribute project it is OK :)
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love this! You have any pictures??? I’m going to convert Gaunt into a Vostroyan commissar!
@r_4_k-drone4321
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop seems that I cannot post imgur link (my comment gets removed). Anyway, it wasn't much to watch, as I have them only primed - they are waiting for their turn (with Greenskins, T'au and Novitiates in line)
@malcolmbrown5331
2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@samsnead7414
2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video ... I like the format of the why I do what I do and hearing your strats
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton 🙏 very cool to hear. Glad you liked it!
@benhowarth1425
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love your videos! One thing about the demolitions vet. He gets a free dash when he places the mine, so if you give him that extra APL, he can move, place mine AND dash to safety, and then activate the mine same activation.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
How did I miss that?!?! That’s probably why I’ve been struggling to get the most out of him 😂 thanks a ton, dude! That would help a lot lol
@WorkingDev
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely do a hobby breakdown! Thanks for the shoutout to Phil’s channel, both videos were awesome
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I will! It's coming soon! Oh man, Phil's awesome and his channel is one of my favorites. I've been a fan of his channel before we ever started talking. Thanks, man!
@cdmena86
Жыл бұрын
a fresh n00b here. i just played Kill Team for the first time a few days ago. I was wielding the Veteran Guardsman out of the new starter box. at first, playing the team was a tad overwhelming trying to navigate the operative's special abilities. but, after two games, things were starting to click and I could feel the potential in the synergies between the units. thanks a ton for this video and breakdown. the production efforts do not go unnoticed. cheers from Chicagoland !
@3StoWound
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. After getting a few games in with these guys I love them. I know there is more to unlock with them in how I use them. Your way of using the confidante is great, I hadn’t been giving him any love, he may finally get his chance to shine. Also I feel like your Vostryans need some kind of Inspiring aura for their moustaches, possibly an invul save? They are just so bushy and powerful! They have come up great!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brother! Yeah I feel like I have to be “on” to really play them. Every game I get under my belt makes me a lot more comfortable with them though. Yeah, try it out! My confidant is honestly the heart of my team. 😂 can’t wait for subfactions to get released so my bushy stache aura can be tournament legal 😆
@andrewpower
2 жыл бұрын
Melee team. Only improved by adding ketchup packets and a hammer to the game to really simulate to guardsmen carnage that will ensue. Beautiful models by the way. Vet Guard was the first Kill team I built. I had to buy a second box as I selected the worst models by instinct. Who needs a sniper and spotter, not me. Lessons were learnt.
@mikusheep
2 жыл бұрын
Sniper and spotter are actually kinda nice
@andrewpower
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikusheep Oh I agree, I just didn't realise that when I built the team first time around. Had to buy more to add a sniper and spotter. Just my luck to not built some of the most powerful units by mistake.
@mikusheep
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpower oh I misread it haha. I played at the lgs yesterday against someone who just didn't take a comms vet. I was playing deathwatch so I lost anyway but I was teaching him the rules so that was for the best.
@fransaacs
2 жыл бұрын
A 57th awesome. My Octarius Vet Guard are (sorry to say) still on the sprue, your clip has given me some food for thought... Excellent work sir!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Mine were on the sprue for a longgg time too. No shame 😂
@johnmilik9909
2 жыл бұрын
Loved this Ben! There's a ton of mental load with the vets and I'm proper struggling with trying to remember what works with what and what works best during the game and I'm only playing with my 9yr old son! He's no tactical genius and his aim is to just table me every time we play but vids like this really help us both. Keep it up.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John! Yeah I totally get it, there’s a lot of synergies to keep up with. Im thinking of making myself a cheat sheet with activation order, special rules etc. 😂 Good on you for gaming with your son! Is he running Kommandos?
@johnmilik9909
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop we alternate and he got some mk 3 ( which I built 6 of and will be Dark Angel Fallen when I paint them ,mk 4 marines that will be Dark Angel 1st company Christmas along with a box of necron warriors which I've kit batched some of to make some death marks. He played marines against my Kommandos on Sunday, much easier for him to play.
@daniel812681
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, so enthusiastic! Subscribed ! Looking forward for more !
@alessandrovalente9184
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I did not think about using the confidant and the leader that way! I normally play agressive with my 4 generic troopers. They can sprint towards objectives and draw-out the enemy. This helps getting more value out of my stronger units, they become less obvious targets and can attack the drawn out enemies in the last activations of the turn. I feel take aim is also so good for making sure your plasma gun and plasma pistol do not hurt you. Do not underestimate the lasgun upgrades your las guns become like boltguns and this helps to make your generic troopers or melee units allot more dangerous/versatile.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! I've been using my troopers the same way! Even if they die quick, you can get an early lead on objectives which is so important. Yeah, I love taking the hot shot capacitors on the troopers when I don't want to deal with positioning for grenades. I saw Ace, the top KT player rn saying that he takes the hot shot capacitor on the Zealot so get that lethal 5+ on the hot shot lasgun. I had never thought of that. Want to give that a go.
@thegreatnickh8151
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great video, at 22:20 I would have liked if you just put a screenshot of the ploys up while you talk about them, gonna play guard for the first time this weekend, thanks for the info!
@lowbrowminis
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing job on these. You should be really proud of the work you did on these.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Nothing like shooting close up shots to show you what needs to be fixed 😂 need to go back and do a few touch ups
@vikingvikingviking2806
2 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to getting my veteran guardsmen ready. Your tips are on point; I agree that some equipment is good but too expensive compared to the alternatives. Thanks for a great vid!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton! Yeah, I'm really loving them. So many tools in their tool box.
@NightfireGamingYT
2 жыл бұрын
I love these custom Kill Teams. Awesome team and breakdown!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@TheBigDirty716
2 жыл бұрын
Dont feel bad saying they look great cause they look awesome! So original. Also probably the best vid I've ever seen on Kriegers. Great Job
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scotty! Very cool of you 🙏
@ByzantineReactionary
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job on getting the hats correct! Many people often go with the British or French fur hats instead of the cossack wool hats unfortunately
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I actually did a fair bit of research on what style of hat was correct, so thank you for noticing! 🙏
@ByzantineReactionary
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop it is truly the little details that make or break miniatures
@wargamercubano
2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!!, those dudes are awesome! Now to battle with them
@grimdork1026
2 жыл бұрын
Another banger! Ashamed to say I still haven't even built my vet guard team and I've never played against them either... Wasn't interested before, now very much am! Plus these conversions look sooooooo good, and killer paint job too!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Ha, no shame brother. It took me like 5/6 months to get to them 😂 These bespoke teams are really getting my attention lately. Thanks, man!
@grimdork1026
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop now it's my turn to convert you to Eldar!
@trippsclips903
Жыл бұрын
I love the Mine-Signal strat. I managed to make it work in a game against Legionnaires and wiped two out with one mine.
@daddex9222
2 жыл бұрын
Vet Guard are great fun but like you said your have to get used to the way they need to work as a team. The second in command really makes a difference over Compendium guard where you have to protect the boss if you want strat ploys, or take a regular guardsman leader as he will hide and another scion dudebro who can go fight. Just completed the Vet Guard detachment of The Rust Eaters, a total mash up for a campaign at the local GW store! :)
@HardcoreHobby
2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing show of growth and development for the channel! Great video and really helpful! How did you go about getting all those base Krieg bodies/arms?
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I will go over it in a separate video since this once was so long as is, but I used the wargames Atlantic Les Grognards kit for extra bodies, and used the leftover Krieg arms and accessories. They fit in really nicely, actually. The silhouette is pretty similar which is what sells it, I think. If you're really balling on a budget, you could build a whole Krieg roster since the box has 24 models in it, and it's only 24 bucks.
@scarecrow999999
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm a bit late to the party but really enjoyed this video and the video you did with 3s to wound.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it! Rhys is a sweetheart, but don't tell him I said that
@danalongi
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I am enjoying your videos. Your content has enspired me to build some new killteams and play more. I look forward to more content.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton! 🙏 very cool to hear. What teams have you been enjoying?
@a.k.summers5633
2 жыл бұрын
Really fine run through. I'm unsure about the hardened veteran/bruiser roles, but the idea is funny. I think your Vostroyans turned out really, really great. Are we getting a hobby video about them too? :)
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Yeah, I’m not sold on the either. 3 attacks is just plain bad even if they have cool abilities. Yes! I had to cut out the hobby stuff or else this would have been a 40ish minute video and I normally try to shoot for 15 minutes lol
@TheEr910
2 жыл бұрын
Cool conversions. I was thinking about picking up some Cadians to run as Vet Guard. Rumor has it that the next KT box will have Chaos. My bespoke team plans are on hold until then.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, the cadian shock troop box would be perfect. I’m really hoping for Chaos Marines 🤞
@jamesgunnell7798
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, love the big hats.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, James! Thanks man
@CommandPoint
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome conversions!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Was a lot of fun and took longer than it probably should have 😂
@CommandPoint
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop thats always how it is haha
@elskanko1
2 жыл бұрын
Ben, ive never played kill team or talked about it but I like your videos and I want to talk about it. I enjoy them.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Dude! That's really cool to hear. You should definitely give it a try sometime, it's great!
@intobatts
2 жыл бұрын
The bespoke teams have done really well in games I've played. However, we play a lot of shit wrong, and the more stuff you're playing with , the more likely you are to stuff it up! Great overview of the Vet Guard Ben, I'm looking forward to taking these tips with me the next time I play
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the mental load is real for sure! If I’m not up for it, I’ll just run compendium guard Scions or split list. Thanks, man! Hope it helps
@frederickflores8152
2 жыл бұрын
I love the firstborn. I've got a squad of them in storage I've been wanting to use. Think I need just a few more bodies to add
@christopherfodge4362
2 жыл бұрын
Great models! How did you make the confidant? It gives it a lot of character, very cool
@ludorockfriend8581
2 жыл бұрын
As always love your insights
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! 🙏 There’s a lot to this team, and I’m still working some of it ou
@Flori-han
2 жыл бұрын
I've ALWAYS took the demo guys. Because there is nothing more satisfying than blowing up chaos marines or xenos during the weekend. The radio-demo combo is sooooo satisfying
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
For sure! There’s just so much potential there. I’ve been getting great results with him, it just took me a little while to figure him out
@frankg9956
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, can you do a video showing the conversions and painting of these guys?
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I would have included it in this video, but it would have been like 45 minutes lol. But yes! Coming soon
@connorm6724
2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro gotta get a game in soon!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to squash some more demons 😂 And watch my guardsmen die turn by turn 😂
@JustiniusBuilds
2 жыл бұрын
As ive been saying, i need to find a good non-elite team. I think im going to make this the one. You broke everything down really nicely and made all the options make sense. Your models are killer 🙏🙏🙏
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Yeah they just have the tools to get the job done. A lot to keep up with for someone like me who typically likes elite teams, but they’re a ton of fun! They get easier the more I play them.
@JustiniusBuilds
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop im all about the elites. But i think these guys are flexible enough to be the ones. Lets see if my poopy brain can manage this many dudes
@Designsy-wl9nr
2 жыл бұрын
Great content! Thank you!
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@anarcho-angron6297
2 жыл бұрын
Damn those models look awesome
@jameskoselka5740
2 жыл бұрын
Been a Vostroyan fan for awhile. My favorite KT first edition team was a Vostroyan Scion team. The kitbashes look great.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I have Vostroyan Scions coming up soon too!
@daniel812681
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop how far are the Vostroyan Scions coming along or did you stop with the orange guys ? 😅
@malcolmbrown5331
2 жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks!
@TheBasCast
2 жыл бұрын
They look amazing Ben. Really cool Kill Team. How much time did you spend creating the team? Modelling, kitbashing, painting etc. ?
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank, man! I will start working on “how I converted them” video. This video would have been like over 40 minutes long so I had to cut back on the hobby stuff. I kind of worked on these over a few weeks. A few one night, a few here and there. The conversions are actually pretty easy, I just don’t have a ton of hobby time right now. I painted them up in 2 or 3 nights. I was surprised at how fast they painted up!
@a.k.summers5633
2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this one :)
@vikingvikingviking2806
2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to hear you think about the kroot kill team
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I've been putting it off, but I will definitely get to them!
@Zorpazorp
2 жыл бұрын
Vostroya is lyyyyyfe
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother! Love the channel, man!
@Zorpazorp
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop cheers bruh
@drew222k3
2 жыл бұрын
They look amazing! Hope my Sisters can have a scrap with them at KTO if it works out :)
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Oh dude, that would be amazing!
@kittheopposum5617
2 жыл бұрын
How did you do the heads? The krieg torsos have such an awkward head spot it's not gonna be easy for me to make my ordered heads to fit
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I will make a video on it soon, I promise! I used Cadian heads, and cut the neck areas to fit the joint on the Krieg, and then I sculpted the fur hats on!
@kittheopposum5617
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop Thank you!
@capgunns9139
2 жыл бұрын
My go to has been sgt, coms and the rest troopers. Sgt and comm stay back and issue orders and the troops Group activate as much as possible to dog pile the enemy units to remove them as quick as possible
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I love this idea, too! Trooper spam sounds great.
@DarrinSK
2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking of converting the krieg vet guard models into something else too... what do you guys think of converting them into savlar chemdogs?
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Oh dude, that would be sick. If you ever get around to it, you’ve got to send me pics!
@TrilainaBloodwind
2 жыл бұрын
While I love the fact we now have a Krieg box set that let's us do awesome stuff with it like you've done with your Vostroyans (awesome looking, BTW!), I do kind of have an issue with Bespoke teams overall. Given enough time and releases, I feel there will basically be zero reasons to run the compendium kill teams in any capacity due to the fact that Bespoke teams are just outright upgrades in every way to the standard teams. Sure, you can start playing with your KT now and in the mean time until your bespoke team comes out, but after that? I don't see why you'd wanna run anything but that new shiny bespoke KT (think like with standard guard VS vet guard, or standard pathfinders VS Chalnath pathfinders.... would you seriously play the compendium versions of those given what we have now????)
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks! Yeah, that's super valid. The compendium should have been a free PDF download for sure. Probably wishful thinking here, but I would love to see a compendium supplement with extra fire teams or something for each faction to make them more competitive. There are a FEW teams in the compendium that are still valid. I actually think Comp Guard is still a solid team with all Scions or the split list. VetGuard is a better team, but Comp Guard is still good IMO. That's the exception to the rule, though. It is a definite feels bad across the board. I'm okay with it at this point because I think they knocked the game system out of the park with this edition, but they absolutely dropped the ball with most of the compendium teams. Thanks for the comment!
@TrilainaBloodwind
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlebrotherstabletop absolutely! As far as balancing between the Bespoke and Compendium teams goes, I think a simple fix is to give more meaningful rules and balances to the compendium teams. The issue RN is that Bespoke teams are self contained and have a more limited list of units to pick from compared to the Compendium, but those units have a ton of rules. If the Compendium is supposed to be the opposite of that, then the units in it need to be much better. Otherwise, give more rules and better units. (As an aside, your scion video inspired me to pull aside 10 of my scion models to try kill team, and I love them a ton, so thank you!) Also, have to agree on the game overall. I am amazed that the game feels very distinct and different from 40k overall. It still has some rules and touches that remind you it is still a 40k game, but it has more than enough to stand on its own now. Great job by GW there for sure.
@adventuringwithmichael8134
Жыл бұрын
How did he convert this?
@BB-pn2qv
2 жыл бұрын
I love this
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🙏
@OliveGarden420
2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a good tallarn kill team. They don’t get enough attention
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
I was just talking last night to a buddy about doing some Tallarn stuff actually! I agree with you
@walstafa
2 жыл бұрын
I switched to these guys from Death Guard and man, the skill ceiling and the cognitive load is insane.
@battlebrotherstabletop
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, you’re not kidding. I really have to be “on” to run these at a decent level. Compendium guard is still good for me if I don’t want to wreck my brain lol
@christopherjones8558
2 жыл бұрын
This is why I keep coming back to my Death Guard 🤣 Though I think a lot if it has to be the pure joy in seeing if Disgustingly Resilient can stop ridiculous numbers of wounds going through. I will have to take the mental plunge on a bespoke team though…
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