I got a Pathfinder 15 a few years ago and wondered why they discontinued it shortly after. Clearly, it was sucking sales from more expensive Vox products
@Da_Publick
14 күн бұрын
It was the dawn of the 'Cheapskate Guitarist Cult.' 👻
@thepatzer
17 сағат бұрын
I have a Pathfinder 10 and wish I had the discontinued 15R available instead. What a shame Vox stopped making them.
@SmithWesson90
3 күн бұрын
Love my Pathfinder 15 Tremelo. Great demo just right to the tones. 👌👌
@voxpathfinder15r
Жыл бұрын
Totally awesome!!! I couldn’t hear a difference until you used the fuzz pedal, honestly with the pedals the Pathfinder sounded like it had more low end and the AC15 sounded thinner. And the pathfinder was much juicier with the treble booster. Overall I say the the pathfinder was the clear winner as far as I can tell over KZitem. Small correction, the pathfinder has an 8” speaker not a 10”. And if you plug it into a 2x12 - you will be blown away!!! Love this stuff.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you have to be careful what 2x12 you plug into. I plugged the Pathfinder into my Bad Cat 2x12 and had some issues. It's those pesky ohms we have to be careful of.
@erlowther
5 ай бұрын
I owned the Vox AC15. Sold it when I heard the Pathfinder… I now own 3 Pathfinder 15R’s. One for home practice. The other two I run as a stereo rig for gigs. Amps are set fairly clean with the booster off. Use pedals for overdrive. Send the line out of one of the amps (not the headphone out, it sucks) to the PA (which mimics and nails the pathfinder tone) to allow for room coverage if needed. Big and small gigs are no problem. Enough said. 👍
@tubularbill
Жыл бұрын
I have both. I use the Pathfinder 15R for smaller gigs due to the speaker being naturally smaller and the amp has a less headroom. Phenomenal amp for what it does. Get one if you can.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
I have my eye out for a second one.
@SilverParatrooper
Жыл бұрын
Man I was gonna say something similar to this but you beat me to it. The Pathfinder is awesome and I’m glad I was able to get one for 60 bucks a few years ago locally.
@alexwalker5645
11 ай бұрын
Fantastic comparison!! Love both amps, AC15 is such a great amp….like a big British Princeton with gain. The Pathfinder never should’ve been discontinued. Also fantastic sounding for the size, weight, and price.
@Da_Publick
14 күн бұрын
The Path has an 8" speaker, but I'll tell you what, you're still not wrong because it _sounds_ like a 10" speaker. The way Vox made the cabinet makes the speaker's best qualities shine through. edit: Of all pedals, the Treble Booster sounded the worst with the Pathfinder. I thought it would be the dang *fuzz!*
@Berkland1000
10 ай бұрын
Intelligently done! Thank you so much.
@TheToneLounge
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@fabioserette1774
Жыл бұрын
The sound you make using the compressor is amazing... love it
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@fabioserette1774
Жыл бұрын
Do you know VOX AC15VR? Is it similar?
@carlospenna
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, excellent work, I read the comments, very positive... For me this demonstrates that you are on the right path!!! See how amazing a solid state is...👏👏✌✌🤘🤘
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
I keep an open mind about gear. Price and name brand can sometimes indicate quality and reliability, but sometimes it does not. Vox makes great stuff, so why would their solid state amps not be good too?
@carlospenna
Жыл бұрын
@@TheToneLounge Yes, that's the way, open mind!!!👏👏👏👏
@mantashaft
Жыл бұрын
hey hey hey! long time no see... sounds damn good, extra mids and they compliment each other nicely actually
@mantashaft
Жыл бұрын
as I would suspect, I would likely use it for dirt tones as opposed to cleans, unless I was seeking the less dynamic cleans of the pathfinder to get a tone I was seeking
@LP-qi8hs
10 ай бұрын
Great comparison, pertfect...both are amazing amps with very different prices....
@TheToneLounge
10 ай бұрын
Yes they are! Did you have a favorite?
@fabioserette1774
Жыл бұрын
I've found one Pathfinder 15R for 100 bucks. After that video, I m considering to buy it.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Do it!
@SmithWesson90
3 күн бұрын
Did you buy it??
@marquisdecarabas1312
Жыл бұрын
Germany, 7 o clock AM Jonathan: compares two amps, starts playing Sabbath riff Me: immediately forgett about the comparrision, start headbanging and sing the vocal line along 😂😂😂 This was a realy cool comparrision 👍👍 the idea with the external speaker cab was great. I knew that the Pathfinders are great little gems before but i did not expected that they will be so close to each other. Shure there are differences but not in a good ore bad way..just differences. To my ears the AC15 has aittle bit more chime to the overall sound and the treble boost suits the AC15 better. The crunch/distortion channel on the Pathfinder is a little bit weak in my opinion but i dont care too much about the distortion channels because i get my crunch/distortion from an EHX Bass Soul Food...yes it is the Bass version...i bought it for my Bass because my bass amp has no distortion/crunch channel and i needed one for some Joy Division stuff and things like that..the guy sold it for 30€ so it was a no brainer for me. At home intried it with my guitars too...and hell yes!! The sound is killer to my ears. I like it more then the Guitar Soul Food pedals i saw in Demos. 😁👍
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, gear designed for one instrument can be equally good on something it was not designed for. Certain fuzz pedals or EQs sometimes sound great on other instruments. Fuzz layered with a drum mix can be nice and grungy! Distorting a reverb can make it pop out of a mix. There's all sorts of things we need to experiment with. Perhaps I should do a video on that. 🤔
@jonschwieb323
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. They sounded closer than I expected. The AC15 seems to have more mids, at least on some settings. The fuzz sounded great through the Pathfinder, but that Treble Booster through the AC15 was killer. I haven’t seen a Pathfinder 15R in the wild, but I’ll keep an eye out for it.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you can find one, I highly recommend it. Even at 150-200 bucks they are well worth it.
@jasondorsey7110
11 ай бұрын
@@TheToneLoungeFound a pathfinder 15r on goodwill's site for $100 a while back, it's an incredible value and I use it all the time through an '80s mesa 1x12
@TeleBlaster
Жыл бұрын
To me.. it just shows how important the speaker you use is. I replaced the speaker in my Princeton reissue to an alnico gold..and put a celestion blue in my ac15. Transformed both amps...for the better.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
I agree. The speaker, to me at least, is more important than tube upgrades.
@JackNance22
Жыл бұрын
Nice playing and comparison, both are great amps.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack! I agree. If you had to choose, which one would you pick?
@JackNance22
Жыл бұрын
@@TheToneLounge The AC15 is my preferred, but the price and size of the Pathfinder could convince me to go the other way. I do plan on picking up one of the two at some point. Thanks for the great content.
@EOUNAOEVERDADE
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, pathfinder is the best worth for money. AC15 in some ocasions is better but it doesn't worth 3 times the price, it's not 3 times better, maybe 0,5 better or 1x better
@TheToneLounge
4 ай бұрын
I see your point. My main issue with my Pathfinder is that it is really picky with exterior cabs. This is my second time blowing it up.
@royknowlton2947
Жыл бұрын
Vox Pathfinder 15r has an 8" speaker.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Correct! I sometimes say nonsense for some reason, I'm just happy to have people to clarify those details for me. :)
@jimsteele2072
Жыл бұрын
Same old sad story here, I had a Pathfinder 15, sold it back in 2012 and wish I never did. I had the AC4 also a good amp but the Pathfinder was unappreciated at the time. My bad..... looking for another
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Here's hoping you find another one, Jim. It would pair well with that AC4 for a stereo setup!
@ericnootebos5855
Жыл бұрын
You are not correct about the 10 inch speaker in the pathfinder, it is actually a 8 inch speaker. Thanks for the nice video
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I do get some things wrong sometimes, ask my wife ;)
@Mr.Steve-O
8 ай бұрын
Yes, 8" speaker in the Pathfinder. I have one that I bought for $60 about 4 years ago and it's incredible. The reverb is not that great, but use an Oceans 11 to overcome that.
@luizalbertokoehler4904
9 ай бұрын
😯 very similar!
@TheToneLounge
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are. :)
@AudreyYun
Жыл бұрын
i preferred the ac15 on most things but the fuzz sounded better on pathfinder!! and the cleans sounded very comparable. great value for money that.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is. These little amps have a bit of a cult following. I never knew why. Now I get it. It's a great little budget amp that requires very little servicing, and can take pedals extremely well. Paired with the right speaker, it's a hell of an amp.
@luizalbertokoehler4904
5 ай бұрын
The Pathfinder speaker is 8" not 10"
@TheToneLounge
5 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@Berkland1000
10 ай бұрын
But not the speakers included in each cabinet? Pathfinder has an 8" and the AC15. Very similar sounds from your cabinet. How do the included 8 and 12 sound in a side by side? Thanks.
@TheToneLounge
10 ай бұрын
With their stock speakers they sound very, very different. The smaller speaker and smaller cab size of the Pathfinder 15 make it sound thin compared to the AC15. That's why I wanted to compare the circuits through a common cab. This way we minimize the differences and showcase how awesome both amps really are.
@donovanhaas7315
8 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if the Vox Cambridge Twin 30 Reverb's clean channel is the same as the Pathfinder? Google seemed not to know anything.
@TheToneLounge
8 ай бұрын
Hopefully someone will know.
@blekdzek1641
8 ай бұрын
Can you add the reverb pedal to that Pathfinder 15 V9158 ? Cause it does not have built in reverb like the Pathifinder 15R V9168.
@TheToneLounge
8 ай бұрын
The Pathfinder does not have an FX loop but you can definitely use a reverb pedal with it.
@indigo2009
8 ай бұрын
Vox pathfinder 15r has a 8 inch speaker.
@TheToneLounge
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification.
@mike1967sam
Жыл бұрын
That compressor is amazing but too expensive, besides I use mini pedals and I wouldn't have space for it.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome in a mini format
@kosmicwizard
Жыл бұрын
Are we still waiting for the Pathfinder vs AC4 shootout?
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
It's filmed and ready to go. It's due for release on June 4th, but I could be swayed into releasing it sooner. 😉
@kosmicwizard
Жыл бұрын
@@TheToneLounge sooner would be awesome, Jonathan!
@Coolbeans1492
Жыл бұрын
What this shows you is that a good solid state amp is as good as any amp. But you do have to eq them differently.
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
A great circuit, is a great circuit. Paired with a great speaker, there is no way a SS amp can't sound awesome.
@cuellar23
6 ай бұрын
What song are you playing during the clean tone demos?
@TheToneLounge
6 ай бұрын
Just something I came up with for the video.
@TheVoluntariast
11 ай бұрын
Just to confirm, you recored them both through the cab correct?
@TheToneLounge
11 ай бұрын
Yes!
@TheVoluntariast
11 ай бұрын
Thank you. Amazing how good the P15R sounds. Have we been duped into believing bigger and more expensivet tube amps sound better that solid state? @@TheToneLounge
@goodtimefolkrock
8 ай бұрын
heard no difference .....i own a pathfinder for 13 years now and i now know i dont need an ac 15
@TheToneLounge
8 ай бұрын
There you go! Do you use any pedals with yours?
@goodtimefolkrock
8 ай бұрын
@@TheToneLounge yeah i use a comp , a reverb , and a chorus
@SilverParatrooper
Жыл бұрын
Is this a Pathfinder 15r?
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
No, just the 15 none reverb version.
@cedarmusic
11 ай бұрын
pathfinder blows the AC15c away (for me) ...Much more body and ballsy
@TheToneLounge
11 ай бұрын
It's a very capable amp!
@skippvandecar
Жыл бұрын
crank them up a little, the AC-15 will bury the pathfinder... un fair comparison
@TheToneLounge
Жыл бұрын
True. However, mic'ed up in a mix? Not sure it would be so unfair.
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