Agree with what you’ve said about the four imperfections of Singapore. After all, as you said, there is no such thing as a perfect country. Not a rebuttal, just a slight correction. Life for the elderly in Singapore is not as boring as you’ve mentioned. You can't take the boring life of those coffee shop uncles to represent all the elderly in Singapore. In fact, what the elderly done in China, we also do it in Singapore. Just use a simple example - me and my wife - we’re in our 70s and are enjoying a wonderful life. I exercise every day, enjoy to learn and learn to enjoy. My wife is also very active, and she also practices line dance (called Line Dance) for and with the "senior people" (we don't call them the elderly). As for travel, it is common for Singaporean seniors to travel in groups. We are not looking at Singapore alone but the whole world. The proportion of Singaporeans going abroad is believed to be higher than that from China. But I don't think it's necessary to compare, it's senseless. Speaking of stress, from the online reports and my four-year life in China, I feel that the stress in Chinese people could be higher than that in Singapore. The situation of peers’ pressures and competition in China is the worst in the world. Maybe you are in Singapore now and don't know much about the current situation in China. There is no denying that life in Singapore is quite stressful, but even if we are not among the elite, our life can be still quite fulfilling. Just quote myself, for instance. I don’t have a bachelor’s degree and I am a 9-to-5 ordinary worker. I could still comfortably support my family, own a car and a house. Now I’ve retired but I have no mortgage or car loan burden nor do I owe anyone a cent. I don't mean to refute you. Just add in my 2-cent-worth to correct some misunderstandings. Please bear with me if I have offended you.
As for medical costs, Singaporeans can choose Polyclinics & Government Hospitals’ clinics under the subsidized class. Working Singaporeans usually also have their companies’ medical insurance coverage. So for foreigners wanting to work in Sg, its best to check with your respective companies on the medical benefits. Most do not cover dental & eyes.
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your suggestion. 🤝🤝
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. At polyclinic it's only $14 for Singaporean or $6.90 for Singaporean senior citizens. If I remember correctly the PR need to pay $27 something. Should be $27.90 or $27.60 (either one of this). The non resident is $50+ at polyclinic. Should be $55 or $53 ( I only remember 3 and 5 digits). I really don't think it's expensive compare to GP. Do take note that on Sunday and public holidays most GP are close and those that are open do charge above $100 for consultation fee alone. Saturday most GP only open in the morning or not open on Saturday thus those that open in the afternoon or night are costly too. We Singaporean know that if sick on Sunday we either wait till Monday or go straight to A&E 😂
@wf645
2 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why there is differentiated costs for NON-PRs, PRs and locals. Cuz in the past too many PRs benefited from almost similar benefits from locals. If this is the case where does being a Singaporean has its benefit ? Plus, the PR will just keep leeching on local resources without giving much back to Singapore ... and hence the differentiation. And the policy also acts as a nudging factor for PRs to take up citizenship ...
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
@@wf645 I agree with you on this.. But honestly social workers are very willing to help any PR or even illegal immigrants who really in need of help. If a PR really broke and cannot afford medical fee, we still let them get treatment or surgery etc. After they recovered liao then send them bills. And if they really need can apply to see social workers but their doctor need to help them recommend.
@jaslynpak
2 жыл бұрын
@@wf645 Yes, indeed! Actually, almost all other countries do so, i.e. differentiation in medical costs, Singapore is not the only country that does it. This is to be fair to their own native people.
@pwngpwng4586
2 жыл бұрын
你还是不了解新加坡人,多出去走看新加坡人什么生活吧
@papayasalpha8173
2 жыл бұрын
I truly agreed with your details observation . Well done ! 👍
First, you need to differentiate the medical expenses at public hospitals and clinics for citizens and foreigners when making comparison. With govt subsidies, medical cost is quite high. Second, Singapore has become a very competitive place to work and study. Many Singaporeans are busy keeping themselves afloat, ensuring their employability n career prospects , their children's survival in school and taking care of their parents.. They usually don't have time for extended families and relatives except for yearly festive gatherings
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your sharing.👍🏻👍🏻
@alexong6646
2 жыл бұрын
我看你的朋友去私人医院治疗….价钱肯定比公众医院贵多多
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
Actually it depends on how close the family is. If your parents are close with his/her siblings then definitely the children are closer too. My dad simply train us to be close to my relatives. My cousin even especially pick a job near my house so she can have lunch with me or come over to my house to sleep if need. When I fight with my dad I ever run to my grandparents house to stay in my teens. 😂
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
FYI, even a non Singaporean got sick or injured, all our hospital will do is cure and heal first. Later after discharge then send bill. I know of a granny who is considered as illegal immigrants because she came to Singapore to work in her younger years. In 2021 she was found lying on the toilet of coffeeshop and sent to hospital. Found out she already no more valid pass to stay in Singapore. She is in her 80s liao and she got no money to pay bills. Singapore General Hospital still keep her in ward for months and the social workers there arrange a old folks home to let her stay after she was discharged. I think they are helping hard to get her a permanent pass to stay in Singapore because she have been in Singapore for decades so no more friends in Malaysia.
I agree on the point that married couple having little contacts with their families and relatives. I know of many who returned to see parents maybe during the Chinese New Year. Some may visit during birthday. Others that visit frequently was because their children were taken care by the grandparents
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
But I heard many parents are unwilling to help take care grandchild, right?
@SuccessforLifester
2 жыл бұрын
@@sg_talk Both types also have.
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
Actually it can be the children dare not let the grandparents look after their kids. I personally dare not let my mum look after my own children because of her own style. She can really spoil the child and she wasn't as hygienic as I prefer. Her feeding style is put into her own mouth to test the temperature. 😂
@yinyeechan2630
2 жыл бұрын
每星期会固定回家看爸妈吃个饭 每个农历新年姑姑会跟爸妈拜年所以就会看到她 that’s all 😂 其他的亲戚只有在特别的场合才见面如结婚摆喜酒 没联络的原因就是大家都有各自的生活和工作 一向来都没有联络的习惯 各忙各的
I don't agree yr statement: 1. For all foreigners u shd get insurance to cover themselves for all medical or accident if occurs in a foreign country. Cheaper and subsidy fees apply to local citizens or PRs only. Expensive medical bills applies to any foreigners who fall sick or incurred accident in any countries and it is normal to pay non citizens fees unless u have insurance coverage. 2. Our Singaporean seniors have lots of activities going on like involving in the community centres events , morning exercises/cycling in the parks. Seniors travelled overseas widely too. Our seniors will not get bored. But If they chose not to be energetic, it will lead to their own boredom. 3. Family ties/bondage are all individuals and you cannot jump into conclusions saying that all family meet up once in a year. These are just the minority that u met. We have different WhatsApp chat groups & others and have special occasions that keep our families & relatives closely bonded. 4. Kaisuism - i had an experienced n witness a group of China travellers in a restaurant where buffet was served, these travellers rushed and grasp hold of seafoods piling up their plate. So are they classified as kaisu behaviour. I think these are just all minority Chinese attitudes fear of missing out (FOMO). Singapore's education system has been consistently ranked as one of the highest in the world. Therefore most of parents behave same as fear their kids are missing out from classes. Likewise in parents from China , like Beijing, Shanghai and others metropolitan cities their kids education are very competitive and do have such kaisu behaviour. So don't be so judgemental.
In China, having family connection is a form of "risk diversification" 风险分散, so if anyone is in trouble, ie financial problems, etc, the family members are there to help... Singapore tends to be more individualistic, because there are government measures to protect individuals, personal financial coverage like CPF, personal insurance, savings, investment, basic education, stable job, etc... So there is no need for family connection 不需要大家庭联系, 自己照顾自己就好
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks for your sharing.
@alexong6646
2 жыл бұрын
其实所谓的大家庭是表面好看….内幕好多烂事…
@ivantan6841
2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree... In singapore, we are quite confident our love ones are well taken care of when they are in hospital. There is no need to bribe hospital staff or know someone to have special treatment.
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
I am close with my relatives but I got to say we never once lend money to each other or even dare to borrow money from them. Maybe if people keep borrow money from relatives or friends then their friends also scare of them liao.
wow... SGD100k medical fee for a fall, even for a foreigner, surely that's more than just fixing broken bone, does it include surgery? I'm local, and fractured my foot overseas (luckily I was in a Scandinavian country so it was around USD200 for a foreigner, which included X-rays, A&E care, one aircast boot and a pair of crutches) and when i came back to Singapore, I went to an Orthopedic doctor at Mount E, each Xray was SGD50-80 and each time doctor session was also around SGD60-80, if i recall correctly and i didn't claim insurance. If I had fell in Singapore, i would have gone to a public hospital a&e but i wanted a follow up, so i went to see a private practice.
I think you have summarised at the closing by saying that "Nothing is Perfect" OR that "this is not a right or wrong issue", but then why is your theme of this episode "The imperfections of Singapore", that's contradictory, isn't it. I would like to share that as nothing is perfect, it will be a matter of time and development, that China will one-day also be facing the same situation in time to come.
@malcolmneo699
2 жыл бұрын
With regard to medical fees, as with all things, there are cheap options there are expensive options, just have to make your own choice. For example for simple fever or flu, some clinics charge $50 easily while others charge only $20 but with perhaps slightly less effective medicines so taking longer time to recover. This is true in every estate especially the older ones. Basically you have options over here.
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. For local, it will be more cheaper if going to Polyclinic. But for foreigners, going to private clinic or Polyclinic, the fees may be same.
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
Actually polyclinics charge $14 with good quality medicines but the only problem polyclinics is long waiting hours. Like average it takes 2 hours at polyclinic. I have friends who tell me go see GP at the family doctor below her block only $50+ so she prefer that. To her, the cost of transport to polyclinic and the time also consider as money. Well she earn base on hourly charges so she can really be very sensitive. Some time when I am late, she will explain how much that 20mins of waiting time can earn her how much. 😂
Does Singaporean or foreginers get cheap medical treatment in China too? You said it will cost cheaper in China. You must understand that its always cheaper for PRC to get cheaper medical treatments in their own country. Singapore actually give FREE medical treatment and surgery to any Singaporean too. Just ask your doctor for information. Also like what other people already commented. Singaporean can choose to go polyclinics which only cost $14 for Singaporean or $6.90 for Singaporean senior citizens. Even hospital senior consultant specialist fee is only $39 if you are referred to hospital via polyclinic doctor or GP. We have such a system so that people with no serious medical conditions doesn't flood the A&E or specialist clinic in hospital. This allow the specialist clinic in hospital to work base on appointments style thus reducing everyone's waiting time. I am Singaporean and i can walk a short distance to visit my grandparents. I even stay with my grandparents till I am in secondary school. I even countdown most festivals with my cousins. My cousins even call me out during their lunch break as they work near my house. Don't use 1 or 2 of your friends experience as the judgement for the whole Singapore! Not every fingers are long but each of them have their own function.
@yumwo4413
2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@ct9245
2 жыл бұрын
Not every fingers have the same length, 十指长短不一
@singalore
2 жыл бұрын
When i was younger i always meet my cousins, but when we grew up, prob all of us are busy and we hardly keep in touch. Interesting perspective!
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
I am still close with my cousins but since covid we rarely meet up but we still WhatsApp and telegram each other multiple times daily. Like share news on CNA or ST or FB. Some times take a photo of where we are or what we eat n share if its nice.
@blilasg8956
2 жыл бұрын
@@celestialstar124 i realized it was a shame to only get together once or twice a year and every cny, everyone just drag their feet on leaving, cos we have so much catching up to do, so i started organizing bbq and durian sessions with my cousins and their families (pre Covid) and it was great fun for us and for our kids to spend time with their cousins too. I'm going to start that again.
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
@@blilasg8956 cool. This should be the way we stay connected with my cousin. I am having lunch with my 2 cousins now too. I haven't meet up with one of them since covid started. Even the food taste so much better.
@MrAlbertYam
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Unfortunately, Singapore Government take care of local citizens only. Although medical treatment are VERY EXPENSIVE, it only apply to foreigners and PRs. Local citizen see doctors are very cheap. Local citizens have CHASE card, government subsidies and medisave.
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
This is Singaporean First.
@MrAlbertYam
2 жыл бұрын
@@sg_talk Singapore Government did the wrong way....charging PRs expensively....Sg Government should learn from Australia, treat everyone the same. Although Singapore have the privilege to attract young talents as PRs, it will fail one day if they keep on making high cost to PRs.
@ct9245
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAlbertYam @ Australian is a big country with very little population in proportion. They needs the man power to come in to fill the gap first . Once their population proportion is like Singapore, they will used the similar medical policy like Singapore.
@v6504
2 жыл бұрын
a lot of things can be done without money, like going to park, beach. regular exercise. having healthy routines. even they stay in Australia, they wont go out. i think its a generational culture.
for the older generations, they may still be bound to familial relations and the guanxi culture to keep maintaining relations with extended family. for the younger generation, they are not so bound to this tradition anymore, in this modern age, its more about authentic relationships, actual people we can click with, rather than struggling to maintain fake relationships with people we barely know or can click with just for the sake of the "family" name.
@celestialstar124
2 жыл бұрын
I am close with my relatives but I got to agree that we are more willing to keep a real relationship with friends who we can click well than spend time to maintain a faked relationship. I believe that different people have different type of family relationships. If we look at Benrunaway. Their mummy will cry when the 2 brothers pretend to fight. This kind of family will surely have close relationships. My dad also use to force us attend family gathering when I am small or when I am so upset due to my personal stress in schools. Basically we cannot forces family to get close it really depends on how the people in that family are. This is same for almost everyone in other countries too. You cannot force family members to be close.
@onghy76
2 жыл бұрын
accurate observations! I do not stay connected with other relatives too .. think it's becos I do not have additional energy and time to call and maintain connection with them. Good job and keep up the good videos
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your sharing👍🏻👍🏻
@jeffreywee2895
2 жыл бұрын
Well say👍
@sucram1617
2 жыл бұрын
Medical fees for foreigners is always expensive. Even in China it's the same
@ct9245
2 жыл бұрын
哪一国会把医药补贴施给外国人呢?
@chiamym6462
2 жыл бұрын
Its the same in China, citizen medical treatment is cheaper than for foreigners!
@ahzyx
2 жыл бұрын
Hi , thumbs up. Like yr likes and disliked. Mostly yr likes. You are neutral too in expressing yr point of view. Keep it up young man. Subscribed yr channel. Cheers !
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks🫡🫡
@leo290702
2 жыл бұрын
仔细观察,会发现那些uncles都会在咖啡店或小贩中心比较靠近人群出入的地方呆,是为了方便看女人。
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
这。。。
@wong517
2 жыл бұрын
我也是看美女,但现在要带口照,比较难看的到了
@darrendelong
2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I have a theory why Singaporeans are not such a big family idealism. It's partly due to a more independent mindset in a society base on meritocracy. In China, there's a "Connection" ( 关系)culture where people help each other through close family ties or relationship. There's good and bad in both cultures it depends what a society wants to focus on. Our founding father (Lee Kuan Yew) wants a meritocracy society and not based on connection (You may dispute and argue with that) and thus the government policy may have influence the mentality of Singaporeans to be less dependent on close family ties or relationship to progress in society. Personally, I am not close to my relatives too and do not see the need to be close to them, you can call me anti-social but I focus my energy on people I really love and care about and it may not have anything to do with "Blood" relation. However I want to add that, the big family idealism is more common among the Malay community. It's part of their culture (Kampung spirit) to maintain close family ties. Partly also due to being a minority, this aspect became very important. To be honest I am not in favor of the "Connection" ( 关系 ) culture. (I will further explain this if you are interested to discuss). This is just my own personal opinion.
me too, I hate the “connection” culture. I have to spend time catering to various people and distracting. I’m so tired
@user-yd7ji5wk5e
Жыл бұрын
我也很认同,生在中国,觉得关系会阻碍国家的发展
@jimw8615
2 жыл бұрын
I hope u u reply me. Why people are migrating out of the modern China today?
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Generally, Chinese people go aboard for good education, good job, high income or high quality of life.
@jimw8615
2 жыл бұрын
狮城Talk thanks for your reply. It’s ironic, when pre pandemic, the rest of the world is going to China for university, work, business,… I see lotsa of Chinese moving out of their homeland. Can u share what are the push factors? Wats wrong w China education, work, living environment,…? Appreciate! Is it only the rich is moving out?
An advice to you, choose the country where you like to stay, except SG. However Singapore only welcome those who really appreciate its unique and the environment!!!!
Singapore see doctor very exspsive is true .kaisu can make people more sussfull .👍
@ct9245
2 жыл бұрын
Expensive (昂贵) or Expressive (表达) ??
@tyctyc9884
2 жыл бұрын
說的好🏠🏠🏠
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
🤝🤝🤝
@tonycheezal5650
2 жыл бұрын
I work as an civil engineer , just graduated from Malaysia I work from Monday to Saturday 8-6pm, what makes you think I will find time to eat with relatives when I have only 1 day to rest? We prioritize money more than relatives
@sg_talk
2 жыл бұрын
Are you working in China?
@tonycheezal5650
2 жыл бұрын
@@sg_talkI'm working in Singapore, but is a china company I felt I want to quit and pursue my digital art education
Singapore is an enlightened autocracy. It’s enlightened, which means it’s open, liberal, developed, and it basically has all the material and economic perks of a European country, but it’s still an Asian-style autocracy nonetheless: one-party rule, one-family rule, mandatory military service, preservation of legal physical punishment. These attributes make Singapore just a cleaner and more decent version of China. For most Asians who just seek material and economic well-being, Singapore is of course a perfect society to live in, but it’s still far from a truly liberal modern country.
@desmondwong664
2 жыл бұрын
説个不客道的話,喜欢就留下,不喜欢請离去
@clamgoh
2 жыл бұрын
那你去美國醫藥費是天文數字,因為你們是外國人所以醫藥當然高
@peterxoldiescheah5095
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr SG Talk U mentioned there’re 4 factors SG not a completed well societies.Yes,these are personal’s views as a foreigners 1st the Medical’s fees definitely will have to remain high as a lot of neighbouring countries citizens come to SG for Medical’s treatments.But the Locals are taken care by Governments n most of them have the Medisave n MediShield covered.2nd U found those retirees are boring in Life U’re taking some cities eg.comparing to whole of SG not practical.3rd U said the relationships among Siblings n Relatives aren’t good,even the Buddhism’s Guidances advices us not to be too close avoiding clashes.4th SG’s a Kiashui Societies because totally welcome professionals,experts,highly skilled n top talented peoples.Otherwise SG can’t survived n disappeared from Worldwide’s maps Mentor Lee K.Y warned.
Singapore is city state medical to the foreign is expensive. Singaporen working stress 😩 no spare for extended family. Even Singaporen chose private clinics is expensive also no special price ! Singapore city state and China has numbers of state. Different interests, different culture, different spending . Singaporen work stress time has taken into weekend . Time is precious only time for theirs family.
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