One more identity crisis short (everyone here has kinda deemed it a bit of a cult classic) but it’s time to end my shorts on it on Sunday! Recommend your favorite Batman or Flash Stories below!!
@maxmanchik
5 күн бұрын
Cool
@zockerjhd9393
4 күн бұрын
I have a question left about Identity Crisis: Was Batman's paranoia from the mind wipe of the Justice League the reason that he didn't wanted to listen to Booster Gold about the Death of the Blue Beetle Ted Kord?
@matthewmcbride120
4 күн бұрын
Dark Victory
@me-ou3hs
4 күн бұрын
@@zockerjhd9393I think that happened before the mind wipe, someone correct me if I’m wrong tho
@DanExclaims
4 күн бұрын
@@zockerjhd9393 I got you tomorrow!
@dazzlethestar151
5 күн бұрын
Damn, poor Barry just wanted to help him, poor Top's mind was broken and poor Wally had to clean up someone else's mistakes.
@Enxivity2528
5 күн бұрын
Say poor one more time for the memes
@dazzlethestar151
5 күн бұрын
@@Enxivity2528 poor
@ReggieMagdaraog
5 күн бұрын
Poor :
@MarioMoss69
5 күн бұрын
Poor
@albireotheredguard1599
5 күн бұрын
Broke! 😏
@christophernguyen8083
5 күн бұрын
For those of you who are curious about the Dr. Light situation here’s what happened: In the Watch Tower Dr. Light sexual assaulted Sue Dibny, wife of Elonged Man. Now usually they would just take him to jail but one of their own was just sexually assaulted so this was serious matter. They decided to take matters into their own hands. After they subdued Dr Light, Batman stepped out to make a report. While Batman was away members of the Justice League voted to have Dr Light lobotomized. The vote came down to a tie and only Barry could break that tie. Barry had just lost Iris so he said yes to have Dr Light lobotomized. Zatanna was in the process of mind wiping him when Batman walked in and witnessed it. Batman would never allow this to happen because it’s against his morals so he tried to stop them. In the end they had to subdue and mind wipe Batman too making him forget what they did to Dr Light. Wally West later found out about this and was in disbelief that Barry could allow such a thing to happen. He was also shocked about what they did to Batman.
@dudebladeX
5 күн бұрын
Damn. What Barry did was messed up, but with what he was going through, he clearly wasn't in the best state of mind to be making such a decision like that. Granted, the decision shouldn't have been made at all, but now it really makes Barry look like he was just dealing with a lot of things all happening at once and just wanted to get away from it all.
@andrewmcloughlin330
5 күн бұрын
Okay i can see why they did what they did to batman it was only ten minutes and seriously this dumbass who lets the joker live who does worse wont stand for a lobotomy yeah he deserves the memory loss
@dawidzygmunt5688
4 күн бұрын
@@dudebladeX Doubtfull...for me Batman isn't right person to ever Ask about this ,and if anything..some villains cant redeem themself. What Batman cant understand,sometimes you're need to be ruthless
@mzudemy911
4 күн бұрын
They also decided to lobotomize him because he r'd sue dibny in the watchtower and learned everyones identities threatening to do the same thing to everyone elses wibes while also mockingly adressing them all by their government names
@travisdooley8053
4 күн бұрын
@@dawidzygmunt5688No because the heroes are supposed to be BETTER than the villains. Straight up lobotomizing someone is stooping to their level and showing that they are no better than the villains they fight
@ked49
5 күн бұрын
This is why I like the flash, Every hero makes mistakes or things they are not proud of, even Batman and superman. But flashes are in most cases the first(on the side that over stepped) to realise just how messed up what they did was. For example Barry in this losing sleep, and also Barry in injustice. Or wally in heroes in crisis(the aftermath of it with him willingly trying to stay in jail for his sentence)
@s.t6098
5 күн бұрын
It happened, and oh boy the milking has begun 💀😭
@ridgefrost
4 күн бұрын
Yh but I do not like this thing dc has going on of trying to prop up wally by making barry look bad, first it was making wally the fastest and having wally flex on barry that he was simply better than him(which isn't very characteristic of original wally) then claiming wally has a better connection to the SF than barry who not only created it but is a genius who's pretty smart in the realm of quantum physics and has been using the SF his entire life as well as a couple other instances like the one in this video, when wally was emotionally unstable and ended up killing all his teammates they didn't write barry coming to save the day but I bet if it was barry that did it, wally would be right on time to magically fix everything, they can both be great with lowering the other
@wildmoose3979
4 күн бұрын
@@ridgefrostthe speed force is one of the fundamental components of reality that Barry gained access to it, saying he "created" it is like saying Newton "created" gravity Edit: feel free to dislike, I forgot that was only post new 52, I am dumb
@Captain-J-Amadaeus
4 күн бұрын
@@wildmoose3979For a brief period of time Barry was the creator of the speedforce, though it was later retconned by the New 52 and later publications.
@wildmoose3979
4 күн бұрын
@@Captain-J-Amadaeus oh I see, my fault I forget how much new 52 really changed things with the canon
@tubebammy
3 күн бұрын
“It was me Bar…. Oh no wait that was you…. Damn Barry”
@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
5 сағат бұрын
"I did NOTHING, so you would feel guilty for doing the wrong thing yourself, Barry!"
@tubebammy
2 сағат бұрын
@@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595 damn…. He would say that😂😂😂
@CyclonezTheSage-vf8ps
5 күн бұрын
And this perfectly illustrates why this method of helping society was not more widespread
@hawkticus_history_corner
5 күн бұрын
Yknow, on top of the moral issues of rewriting someones personality forcibly.
@UntoTheDepths
4 күн бұрын
@@hawkticus_history_corner I wonder about the morality of changing someones personality even consensually using these methods. If you change someone enough, there has to be a point where they become a different person. If you do this are you not killing them, in some sense of the word, in order to create this new person?
@hawkticus_history_corner
4 күн бұрын
@@UntoTheDepths It's doesn't take too many changes to fundamentally change the person they were into someone wholly knew. And yes, you are just killing them at that point, but in a far more messed up way. And it's not like you changed their soul or anything, so that's still a thing too
@Marcus-oc4mw
2 күн бұрын
@@hawkticus_history_cornerbut what happens when their original consciousness starts coming back and clashes with their new personality cause they didn't willingly change but were forced. In the comics we see everyone going insane and mentally broken. Dr Light went from a thief to assaulting women he encountered , this Video explains what happens to Dillion, superman lost faith in the League Batman cut funding and they don't even know what happened to the others who seemingly vanished.
@Montesama314
4 күн бұрын
I kinda get why Batman has his anti-League plans if your own teammates are willing to cut up your brain to save face.
@jazzy-qn8ms
5 күн бұрын
For anyone wondering how Barry Allen's parents could be alive in the present day while Barry is already the Flash, Identity Crisis was written years before the concept of the Reverse Flash killing Barry's mom and framing his dad was introduced in Flash Rebirth.
@harrambou9468
Күн бұрын
I thought it was just Barry’s father in this
@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
5 сағат бұрын
Yeah, Barry's parents being dead is literally an in-universe retcon. Reverse-Flash literally killed Barry's parents in the past, as part of a long-term plan to cause his own resurrection and Barry's return, to ensure that Mirror Master' special mirror would be broken, affecting Barry's mental state. Then Eobard finally goes back to murder Barry's parents from his perspective, but by now Barry is depressed enough to try and stop him. Which causes Flashpoint, just as the Reverse-Flash planned. Which is ultimately Reverse-Flash's chance to finally torment and kill Barry Allen, because Flashpoint is the only reality in which Eobard Thawne can kill Barry Allen and still exist.
@mr_bluegreen2214
5 күн бұрын
Didn't Barry also have a secret regarding Turtle Man? The slowest man alive?
@thathorneyhorse1586
3 күн бұрын
I need to know the secret
@coconutzmilk
2 күн бұрын
@@thathorneyhorse1586 me too!
@kinggalaxyskulls666
4 күн бұрын
They did not have to do this to dr. light I’m talking about the writers. They made him a rapist then give him a lobotomy and then several other lobotomies. I thought Spider-Man had it bad.
@BRAVEBRAWLER
5 күн бұрын
I feel bad for the scarlet speedster
@Caleb-un2ep
5 күн бұрын
Man Barry never gets a break he always somewhere in the multiverse or is trapped in time that he has to correct that conflict of that timeline to save those he loves
@kieranadamson3224
5 күн бұрын
Didn't they do this to Catwoman too? Only then it was essentially because they just didn't like her attitude and decided to alter her mind to be more to their personal liking?
@painvillegaming4119
5 күн бұрын
…..You know Batman having contingency plans doesn’t sound so bad when you realize the League Is willing to magician modify people cerebral cortex on a whim
@blueotter5954
4 күн бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119except this corporal choice was done on a democracy. That alone isn't good enough, but the people behind this choice are people who have experience seeing the kind of criminals these super powered villains are. As much as I trust the DC judges and courts, sometimes you have to realize your villain of the week has crossed a line they won't even pay.
@lewisaino
4 күн бұрын
@@blueotter5954They should do that to Joker, Profesor Pyg and Zsaz
@Hawaiian_Viking
2 күн бұрын
@@blueotter5954 There is no justification for them doing it to Catwoman tho. She isn't a super powered being or anything like that. She's just a low level thief with a different opinion. And they lobotomized her because they didn't like her opinion. IDC what anyone says. The Justice League aren't heros anymore. They're monsters.
@blueotter5954
2 күн бұрын
@@Hawaiian_Viking I agree. Has anyone gotten an interview with the writes of this story line? That being said, Dr Light and criminals like Zsasz would have been enough of moral question of what can our heroes do or not do. They have the power to better the world, they know how bad their villains can get, lines have been crossed, so how do they use this power?
@KakashiTaichou
4 күн бұрын
I feel bad for barry. He's a hero just tries his best to do what's right, and i feel as though the flash tv show showed this side of Barry the most, and it made me fall in love with how pure flash is even after all tbe loss bes been through
@lukeamparo6586
5 күн бұрын
Martian Manhunter allowed this? I get Zatanna but Martian Manhunter?
@Brandilio
5 күн бұрын
He's an addict so they could have just bribed him with Oreos?
@lukeamparo6586
5 күн бұрын
@@Brandilio 😂
@omega5040
5 күн бұрын
The martian feels everyones pain, and it hurts him most when people are self-destructive. His mind reading also lets him feel emotions. He may, or may not agree, depending on the version, but I totally see him going along with the plan.
@painvillegaming4119
5 күн бұрын
@@Brandiliodamn
@vishalm1022
5 күн бұрын
He wasn't there when they did it, it was the satellite era version of the league and J'onn wasn't always present then
@whateverwhatever4476
5 күн бұрын
Poor Wally having to deal with this
@channel-zf6sx
5 күн бұрын
My god.... WHY NEW DC CAN BE THIS COOL?!!! (btw I graduated school tonight)
@dazzlethestar151
5 күн бұрын
Congratulations! :)
@ked49
5 күн бұрын
Con-grad-ts.
@tonoornottono
5 күн бұрын
great work man! first day of the rest of your life. proud of you.
@Jayson-ut8qwfukyoutubesoftasss
5 күн бұрын
Have fun because now the real world starts and fun,time and money all starts to go byby now and bunch of bullshit starts and doesn’t end till death welcome to adulthood
@kunderdog2066
5 күн бұрын
Congratulations!! Your options are numerous right now! Don't stop being curious and enjoy as many things that come your way before "adulthood" starts to become more tangible 😊
@fogotten_
4 күн бұрын
Barry is to pure hearted for some in these villians
@nobodyknowsforsure
5 күн бұрын
Look guys the heroes you look up to aren't heroes at all! I did good right? right guys? right?
@drorfrisch7132
3 күн бұрын
The way the superheroes just decide to charge people’s personalities… and suddenly Amenda Waller doesn’t seem like the evil guy. ‘Oh? He steals memories? He’s evil! I’ll destroy his personality because I’m good!’ The worst part in all of those is that they don’t get punished. If a villain does something like that he’s thrown in jail, a hero? A slap on the wrist.
@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
5 сағат бұрын
That's why not long after this, the Supervillains literally built an army of bad guys. All the Society had to do was say "The Justice League is going to mindwipe you" and everyone signed up. Everyone. Well, minus the Secret Six.
@NethanTheDrawer2
4 күн бұрын
I wonder why so many artists give the characters derpy expressions like that image of Zatana. I'ts not like taking a photo, you have complete control of how the character looks in every given panel. Is it just time constraints?
@unixmoon4842
2 күн бұрын
Personally the core of identity crisis is just so weird and incomprehensible looking back at it. But the stories around it seem better and more carefully concerned with what makes a hero and what it means (also trust)
@TOMMY716
5 күн бұрын
Okay I've seen a random KZitemr make a skit about this but it never went into detail what exactly happened
@LordePhantom
5 күн бұрын
I'm curious to know if they still do this to other villains because that would be messed up
@starhammer5247
5 күн бұрын
They did it to Catwoman as well.
@painvillegaming4119
5 күн бұрын
@@starhammer5247Batman”…..You know this is why I have contingency plans “
@starhammer5247
5 күн бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Yup, there's a reason people don't blame him after learning about this.
@sawtooth808
4 күн бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Also Bat Man “…And even those contingency plans have contingency plans.” Wally West listening : 😨😬😶
@Rad-Dude63andathird
2 күн бұрын
Always telling what kinda cape you're dealing with when their own is hurt. If that's when they start pulling out the big guns, then they're really no hero at all.
@ben_hell4437
9 сағат бұрын
No argument here. I just want to thank you for giving me accurate comic book lore, because these days you can't expect TV shows to be 100% with its source material. Keep going, you're doing great!
@fameasser123
5 күн бұрын
What comic issue should I start on to be able to know what's going on? Would it be best if I started reading with the issue where Identity Crisis starts at or do I start reading several issues before that to get some important background info vital for the storyline? Almost like a prologue of sorts for the story.
@jacquestube
5 күн бұрын
Why the fuck not as opposed to what, permanently imprisoning them in Arkham or a space prison or the Phantom zone?
@painvillegaming4119
5 күн бұрын
Well it not up to them …the governement decide Also the phantom zone is hell
@jacquestube
4 күн бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 they ALREADY act extra judicially.
@liberleo1384
4 күн бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119the same government that employs Waller and made the suicide squad 🤦 Please the government and jail in DC is worthless heroes should have just relied on the phantom zone from the beginning and the only sad part about the mental reconstruction is how fragile it is frankly if they could perfect it the world would be a better place.
@sawtooth808
4 күн бұрын
Sometimes imprisonment (or execution in some cases) is better than what Zatanna did, because when they get their memory back, including the event that took away their memory, well you saw what happened when Dr.Light and The Top snapped, and the results…were not pleasant.
@jacquestube
4 күн бұрын
@@sawtooth808 the problem with all these discussions is we are coming from a framework where there are no superheroes. There have been comic books in the past that have tried to address what it's like to be a normal in a world where there are superheroes and Gods and Monsters. I can only imagine what it would feel like their eyes.
@mrtech6167
5 күн бұрын
i feel bad for him honeslty
@Kozladoev
5 күн бұрын
And this id why tampering with mind is NEVER A GOOD IDEA. Ironically this "secret league" does much more harm with NOT killing these villians. Although yes, it's not a good idea on itself, and Batman would be against it, however I feel it is justified to kill the villain, if they can't be redeemed. Everyone can be redeemed, yes, but the question is how many people must die until redemption can be achieved with any villian. Perhaps some of those villains deserve death, but this secret league became too sure of themselves, thinking it's their job to forcefully redeem villians, or straight up mutilate them telepathically, because "nO oNe WoUlD nOtIcE"
@painvillegaming4119
5 күн бұрын
Except The league isn’t the law Who lives who dies isn’t up to them To quote the man of steel himself you can’t simply throw morality in the garbage Edit: tho I agree big time they mess the hell up with there mind wiping shenanigans
@Kozladoev
5 күн бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 I was really simplifying it in my comment, but you're right. It's actually not that hard to sentence hard some of the villains, since they have committed first-degree murders, which at the very least in America is a guaranteed life sentence.
@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
4 сағат бұрын
The funny thing is that you see a lot of Silver Age storylines with similar "Just wipe his mind/change his memories/use the de-evilnator device to make villains good" plots. This was considered morally acceptable at the time, lol. It's literally "Silver Age solutions to Modern Age problems" The Comic Book. Except morality marches on, so what was perfectly acceptable in Silver Comic Books, looks absolutely messed up nowadays lol
@dantealighieri4543
10 сағат бұрын
I really want this game to be good, specially on PC, but the lack of PC requirements and a demo are worrying. We're so close to release date and still nobody knows the requirements.
@speedstorm0332
16 сағат бұрын
Wally having to deal with a guy who sees himself as half-Hero, half-Villain that doesn't know what the hell he should do, that's a goddamn problem. Barry trying to help and only making an even bigger mess that Wally has to unfortunately deal with. Barry at least tried.
@Vasher-The-Destroyer
12 сағат бұрын
At least he tried to turn people on a better path in life.
@zomberzoom6736
3 күн бұрын
THE WHITE KNIGHT or my favorite batman beyond the white knight its so good
@rextony8367
3 күн бұрын
Poor Barry he was just trying to help someone out but it back fires
@KingSann
5 күн бұрын
Question why is wally the flash in this series,where is barry allen?
@107Pedro
5 күн бұрын
Dead, identity crisis was years before barry return from 20 years of death
@ghosttaki8547
3 күн бұрын
Aunt Iris? Dammit I forgot the comic version
@buttonsfan
5 күн бұрын
That was the Tops power? I thought he was DC's Whirlwind.
@RogueCheepSheep
4 күн бұрын
I think the Geoff John run of Flash expanded the Rogue's skills and abilities, including the Top. I didn't read too much of the older stuff, but I assume he was a basic villain before this.
@sawtooth808
4 күн бұрын
He was pretty much DC’s Whirlwind…without the creepy obsession with the Wasp (including making escorts dress up in Wasp costumes)
@yousseflataoui1583
Күн бұрын
Supergirl is actually really good
@skymanwilson8817
3 күн бұрын
Yea ik its weird but dont mess with peoples minds never ends well
@gr3s473
3 күн бұрын
just read the event today!! pretty cool
@JigsawSaysHello
4 күн бұрын
It seems like most of Barry's villains are his mistakes catching up to him.
@soomitsunami5936
5 күн бұрын
What happened to him?
@drixjoker
5 күн бұрын
What chapter did they receive the letter? It wasn't in identity crisis
@HELLO_KORO
5 күн бұрын
Flash rogue war i think
@yousseflataoui1583
Күн бұрын
Aunt iris???? Damn this way different than CW arrowverse
@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
5 сағат бұрын
Yeah, in comics and most media, Wally is Iris' nephew. Arrowverse Wally is pretty much a composite character of Wallace West, Daniel West and OG Wally.
@dwightnorton3398
5 күн бұрын
Sad
@lewisaino
4 күн бұрын
No wonder Infinite Crisis happened
@giantcat4354
4 күн бұрын
I knew a guy that was known as 'the top'. He didn't have a power but his boyfriend was always cheerful.
@ameerkhan3257
2 күн бұрын
Did Superman know about this?
@TurusDJava
2 күн бұрын
Hold up why did they take 10 Min from Batman
@CommanderSteelTrap
3 күн бұрын
Ugh, burn this whole story. Genuine trash and nothing but character assassination.
@pastorgainz7230
2 күн бұрын
Wait but why did they steal 10 minutes from batman?
@MichiMichi34
3 күн бұрын
What did Batman do in retaliation for having his memory stolen??
@figurante5079
2 күн бұрын
@@MichiMichi34 he lost faith in JLA, stopped t give funds to the league and if i am not mistaken, he also make superman and wonder woman quit with him the justice league
@Numbers1516
6 сағат бұрын
Brother Eye.
@maokai09
3 күн бұрын
This whole thing is just a mess.
@nesrovlahsurvivalist8399
5 күн бұрын
I have no idea what is going on in this video
@PantherDeNoir
5 күн бұрын
What ten minutes did they steal?
@jazzy-qn8ms
5 күн бұрын
Batman walking in on them lobotimizing Dr. Light
@NaughtiusMaximmus
5 күн бұрын
The 10 mintues where Bruce spent Clark's 16 dollars
@PantherDeNoir
4 күн бұрын
@@jazzy-qn8ms thanks
@kwayneboy1524
7 сағат бұрын
So just stop mind bending is the moral of the story? Also does the justice league have anybody to stop them from doing this.
@johnnyn4776
18 сағат бұрын
is barry dead?
@s.t6098
5 күн бұрын
Here we go with the milking again💀😭..
@MrBracey100
5 күн бұрын
I hate all this turning heroes into villains BS.
@thekodex1186
5 күн бұрын
While I agree most of the storyline goes this to heroes unnecessarily - imo Green Arrow and Zatanna would not do this - Barry here isn't really a villain, he just made a mistake which preluded more unethical acts.
@liberleo1384
4 күн бұрын
They weren't villains though frankly what they did is far smarter then sending criminals to jail especially as it prevents their identities from leaking out which was the initial intent of the mind wipe. Frankly the only issue with the mind wipe is that it isn't permanent if it was they could stop so many villains permanently while ensuring that they're technology and abilities are used to benefit society.
@thesmilyguyguy9799
4 күн бұрын
:) D
@ms.pirate
5 күн бұрын
Damn the justice league is an mess. No wonder the S squad killed them off in one of the batman games
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