Thanks bud, I have been using this method for a long time, but never really highlighted it. Been too busy with DD3 for the past few months lol
@courtgame
4 жыл бұрын
That's why im subbed
@jbran11141
4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the excellent breakdown Sir! I’ve screwed this up one too many times.
@edwardthompson8864
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for pointing out the skill requirements and fight mechanics
@YossGold
4 жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown ... just about to get SSM to t14 and his 5th gold star that’ll fill in his 5th red star ... hopefully that’ll help me get this working cause I keep losing SSM so have given up on Symbiotes as one of my Asgardian counters
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
Mine is 5r5g, and he works great. T14 and T4 all his abilities. You need him for DD3 anyways, so might as well max him now!
@mark3517
4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@xignissyo8972
4 жыл бұрын
New to this channel, great info. I’ve briefly seen this but haven’t seen it broke down. Thank you.
@michachadzynski9735
4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, I love symbiots! Need to try it next war.
@ItsSirCoffee
4 жыл бұрын
New to your channel man, your breakdown is unreal! Gave me some fantastic tips!!
@maximusemperor
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, very helpful, thank you !!!!!
@ryanmarcussen8648
4 жыл бұрын
Best video I’ve seen for this game.and I have watched more then my fare share.thank you.
@gavin3935
4 жыл бұрын
Informative video, Dutch!
@MikeCantrell
4 жыл бұрын
I think this fight becomes a lot tougher with boosts and hiemdal passive T4. A boosted Greg with defense up isn't a one shot for basic attacks since the summon buffs. It's kind of a different fight. That's where I end up falling on my face the most at least. I'd be interested in seeing a match up under these conditions if you get a chance.
@anydugen
4 жыл бұрын
Just a fantastic video. I'm still getting used to using my Symbiotes. Short question: Wouldn't Miles perhaps make more sense on the first team (instead of Spidey)? Perhaps disrupt Sif's taunt or Hela's stealth, slow Thor and prolong his negative effects (or prolong Hela's heal block)? Also, with a 75% block chance when in stealth, might Miles avoid the Hela Ult (depending on specifics of course). Though it obviously doesn't seem to matter much, it was just a thought I had.
@sarsippius2005
4 жыл бұрын
Shuri to give that early defense up is useful but I have her on another team. One thing I've started trying is gamora over og spidey due to her speed.. Trying to get a quick kill on Greg. But heimdall giving defense up can screw that plan quick lol.
@respawnsoar9844
3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a new video for the full symbiotes please? I dont understand how to play the matchup!
@mwaters2752
3 жыл бұрын
Very informatief thnq
@Dyn67
4 жыл бұрын
Love all videos you been putting out man! Been playing since launch and I still learn something new everytime I watch you! Keep up the good work.
@robvirus066
4 жыл бұрын
Great Tips Bro. Helps Alot and for that I Sub. and like,,,,thank's
@douglasreinot4608
4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t miles a better pick than peter Parker? the opening disrupt helps keep a target out of stealth or helps keep sif from taunting. I’ve found the control in the opening turn really helpful (at least in lower power levels like 250k). Especially if you do lose venom like that
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely. But my Spiderman is 5 red and 70k, while Miles is 3 reds and 35k, so he's kinda useless against 500k+ teams. If you have a good Miles, he can get a turn or 2 before dying.
@QuarkTatum
3 жыл бұрын
very smart !
@generallyspeaking8089
4 жыл бұрын
great man cool stuff
@EMPEROR_SEO
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the awesome video ! ^_^
@ninetaledgundamx
4 жыл бұрын
I love this team but sometimes you sort of soft lock the fight. Loki puts everyone in stealth and all you can do is kill gregs. it ends up working out because you eventually get your AOE's back with all the turn meter. Occasionally, hella doesn't spawn a greg next to one of the main Asgardians and you can't get the AOE. not too big of an issue in War since Hela spawns more gregs the more Asgardians you kill but in blitz. it can take forever haha. but I still love Symbiote. I can't wait to see who the other team members will be.
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
you can get through it by splashing the Venom ult to stealthed Asgardians to prevent healing, then saving all your AOE attacks for Gregs adjacent to healblocked enemies. I use this on loki/Hela to get through them. Use the SSM and Carnage specials, SSM Ult and Venom ult to do lots of damage and stack debuffs on them. They will eventually die, but you have to be quick so you don't run out of time.
@ianwilson1709
3 жыл бұрын
My Symbiots are 260 K. I just unlocked anti venom and got creamed by a 330 K Asgardian team. I really cant find a use for them in War.
@antbelicheck6339
4 жыл бұрын
Man i have had Shuri with mercs on war defense. I guess i could just take her off of them and put another dps. It'll lower the power significantly since my Shuri is over 100k and killmonger bullseye merc sniper and Korath arent nearly as high. bullseye is the highest at about 70k is it worth doing? My symbiotes for whatever reason lose to asgardians a lot. I hit gregs for health and speed bar and get plenty of dots rolling and turn meter/healing. It's their mitigation. they have none. All that turn meter and healing doesnt help when you cant live through their first initial barrage. AB is 50/50 on Hela so if that doesnt land its usually a loss. Any specific t4 i would need aside from SSM's passive and Carnage's passive? Thanks in advance for any help you give me.
@AleisterMeowley
4 жыл бұрын
Everybody is so much better at this game than I am
@fun7475
4 жыл бұрын
I've been using symbiotes to kill and up punch asgardians since ssm came out. 3 against 5
@Blackobra614
4 жыл бұрын
Ok. Thanks. This post was extremely helpful
@MarkDavidKnight
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't focusing on Loki first better, using Carnage's Ultimate and then Venom's ultimate to spread bleed and heal blocks?
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
Not especially, you can't always kill him, and his clones are good for more turn meter and heals. Once Hela dies you will win, can't say the same about Loki
@inglandingals
4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Carnage ult at thor then symbiote esp and venom ult. And with miles disrupt on thor/hela... once thor is down it is quite easy....
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
It really depends on how powerful the Thor is. That probably isn't killing a 110k+ Thor on turn 1/2. The trick is that you can absorb the Thor passive attacks and heal by killing Gregs before they attack again.
@efraingodinez3395
4 жыл бұрын
Idk why people don’t just use power armor w iron heart to dismantle asgardians
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
Because they can be used on Marauders :D
@unetseulement
4 жыл бұрын
can you try. the 3 symbiotes, shuri and bp (bp need t4). would BP go on forever since he'll kill greg over and over?
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
BP will get the negative 10% turn meter each kill while the symbiotes get bonus 30%. The 30% passive bonus is what drives them forward while killing Gregs. Non-syms will just be stuck at 0% turn meter eventually.
@unetseulement
4 жыл бұрын
Dutchrudder's Gaming Channel ohhhh thought carnage’s would work with BP too
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
@@unetseulement It will work and add turn meter for them, but you don't really need BP. Shuri will be stuck at zero turn meter, while BP will get 90% every time. I can give it a shot, I'm not really using BP for anything.
@deesplash7087
4 жыл бұрын
I’m a new player so idk why I’m watching this lol but what do these terms mean: Punching up? Punching across ? Punching down?
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
It's your power against theirs. So if you have 100k team, Punching down would be attacking a team about 90k or lower, since they are below your team's current power. +/- 10% is about what most consider "across" or even power. Above that would be punching up.
@deesplash7087
4 жыл бұрын
Dutchrudder's Gaming Channel thanks homie
@eliseomelgarejo
4 жыл бұрын
I use vulture and green goblin. I think they are better
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, but you don't really need a 4th and 5th other than to prevent damage and get rolling.
@ibanborak
4 жыл бұрын
Don't know why the hell u used og spiderman and not miles... The fight is so much easier with miles.. T4 in miles ult u land 3 disrupts.. Then venom ult and u can have hopefully loki hella n thor disrupted.. Soooo much easier of a fight... Og spiderman did nothing for u...
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
my miles is dogshit at 35k, he won't be doing anything against a 557k Asgardians. Spiderman didn't' do much, but if he does somehow survive to turn 2, his stun can be useful.
@maxwedewferg
4 жыл бұрын
sims are so broken, they'll have to be very careful completing this team
@pic2022
4 жыл бұрын
Tried using sym for a second time his war, it became a never ending turn fest going again stealthed hela, loki, sif. Miles never got a turn. It was carnage passive, venom 4 times, then ssm. Back to carnage, rinse and repeat. In this strategy loki needs killed first.
@fun7475
4 жыл бұрын
I would still go for thor 1st. His passive will destroy you. Once he stealth go for loki or hela. I wouldnt micromanage your team if they go stealth. Set your team on auto. Hela will just send Gregs out as those are the only ones that will attack. Auto speeds the turns up and web slam will eventually kill them if they dont come out of stealth. They can stay in stealth for a long time (close to 2mins) but I have never lost when they do go stealth and set my guys on auto
@Baddreamzz
4 жыл бұрын
you dont have to bring shuri man...you can win this easy with stock SV
@HabsRealFan
4 жыл бұрын
lmao run miles instead of spidey this matchup should not be that close
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you have him built enough for that. But he's also about to be pulled into the MM, CM, Squirrel Girl team, so he will be moving along. This is how we do with just Syms.
@MrTaK4LyFe
4 жыл бұрын
There are so many exceptional MSF content creators out there and the community loves your hard work. But why can’t ANY of you guys invest in a quality webcam/camera and fine tune your lighting and chroma key? Or at least realize how annoying and distracting it is for the viewer for you to do all this moving in front of a green screen with poor cameras and lighting that causes your picture to become DISTORTED and FLICKERING constantly. Just remove the face cam and do voice only. It’s literally 7 GREAT creators with great tips and info I could name but suffer from the issue where the video is diminished by poor visuals from facecams
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
What quality video are you watching this? I record in HD, you can choose 720p as an option, and it should look great. I'm not using a green screen, it's a software that removes the background, and some times it flickers on the edges when I move a lot. I'm using a Logitech C920 webecam for the video, which is pretty popular for streaming purposes. Lighting could be better, since my desk is in the corner, and I'm using a desklamp for illumination from the front. I'm not really wanting anything too bright as it could distract me from what I'm doing, but I can see about getting a more natural light bulb.
@jkono29
4 жыл бұрын
I think ValleyFlyin's camera, lighting, and green screen look top notch.
@MrTaK4LyFe
4 жыл бұрын
JayKono meh, Valley be messing with his hue to much...looks purple, sometimes green or orange....Mobile Gamer is the cleanest quality as far as face cam image....but then you have the ones that give awesome info and helpful tips on the game (Shanksy, Tauna, Khasino) but the visual aspect of their facecams is too distracting and intolerable to watch. Especially when they decide to make their window for their cam take up most of the screen and blocks what they’re trying to show.
@MrTaK4LyFe
4 жыл бұрын
Dutchrudder's Gaming Channel You said it, the flickering and distorted look from all the moving you do. Whether it’s the program you use or whatever....your face cam quality brings the overall quality of the video down drastically even when watching in 1080p. Content and info is Top notch as I said
@Dutchyy
4 жыл бұрын
@@jkono29 I imagine Valley has a lot more invested in his streaming setup than I do :P
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