This weapons really deserves an incarnon, one that actually gives it a projectile that explodes in a massive radius like the real BFG
@fluffezic5183
5 ай бұрын
Most underrated coment ive seen to date
@Mkrzanu
5 ай бұрын
Tenet version seem to be a better fit
@Φλεγόμενη_Ζήλια
5 ай бұрын
Give it an incarnon that's a wide beam like furis with 1k ammo
@duskdeadman4333
5 ай бұрын
THIS! I NEED THIS!
@bluegolisano7768
5 ай бұрын
not exactly how the og bfg worked, but decino has a great set of videos covering that. it should work like the modern bfg though; big ball that zaps a bunch of enemies at the same time, cooking a bunch of shit to death. wouldn't be opposed to DE using the original version though, imagine 128 enemies in steel path suddenly disintegrating _after the shot explodes_
@knicklichtjedi
5 ай бұрын
I think we need an episode two here with the Opticor Vandal. You also mentioned the Vandal, and personally I think, that the Vandal could have a different build due to higher charge rate.
@BlueBolt5000
5 ай бұрын
I agree.
@gregorystephens9104
5 ай бұрын
I agree
@ARCHMAGOS-RATTLEBONES
5 ай бұрын
I also agree!
@K-dis_Boher
5 ай бұрын
firstly, the vandal version improves a lot of the QOL issues opticor has, but I also found that running it with galvanized aptitude with standard slash setup works really well; especially with pet doing priming for aptitude, it makes it a lot more viable
@C_Kiri
5 ай бұрын
I understand the struggle here, because when the Vandal came out, I was also in the camp of 'well increasing the fire rate and reducing the damage completely ruins the appeal'. Like, the Opticor is meant to be the ultra-slow windup to stupid big numbers. I kinda wish they'd stop playing scared about it, and just let a weapon like this have a THICK-ass beam. When we're on iteration, like, *ten* of Arca Plasmor-like guns, culminating in the Incarnon Lex Prime being a 'one-shot god and 70% chance to proc slash too' kind of gun, I feel like you could take the Opticor and make that beam the size of the Fluctus, or the explosion the size of the Ogris, and it wouldn't ruin the meta. Considering we just got the Onos and that thing's beam is so deeply... 'not enough', I feel like DE is still scared of that. Know what I mean?
@JQDeathFromAbove96
5 ай бұрын
God the Opticor NEEDS an upgrade. The vandal is NOT an upgrade and if you like the feel of the OG opticor the vandal doesn’t even feel like a side grade. They should’ve made a Tenet Opticor.
@0stre
4 ай бұрын
O yeah, Tenet Opticor that would be something!
@JQDeathFromAbove96
4 ай бұрын
@@0stre glaxion wasn’t needed. There’s already a Torid. There isNOT a opticor “prime esc” variant.
@kekistancitizen6900
5 ай бұрын
OmniVoice: OPTICOR PRIIIIMEEEE!
@excal_umba2164
5 ай бұрын
Please I need this the amount of destruction I could do with that thing
@flamaniax5728
5 ай бұрын
Opticor is corpus, so the best we can do is Tenet Opticor. It'll still be sick as hell.
@ddssrr1614
5 ай бұрын
What you think of the opticor Vandel ?.. pretty solid when it first come out.
@ryanw.9828
5 ай бұрын
Collab!
@TheDaxter11
5 ай бұрын
@@flamaniax5728 Opticor incarnon and a Tenet Opticor. I imagine they avoid having incarnons for Kuva and Tenate weapons but imagine.
@MCGamerCZ
5 ай бұрын
Hello there
@StevenKaramanolis
5 ай бұрын
HALLO :D
@shivm941
5 ай бұрын
“General Kenobi”
@bloodraven6413
5 ай бұрын
HALLO :D
@julianpeckford-st3wv
5 ай бұрын
Yw for the gift also use a suda drone on inaros seriously tho it’s bugged rn it’s really funny try it before it gets patched XD
@flamaniax5728
5 ай бұрын
Hello!
@Metaretru
5 ай бұрын
Now this is absolute classic, i remember wrecking the starchart with this badboi and the vandal variant. Opticor need buff, or at least an incarnon badly so it can become the BFG once more!
@0stre
4 ай бұрын
No no no, Opticor is ok, other weapons should be nerfed!
@TheSanto245
5 ай бұрын
My beautiful Opticor, power crept so hard over the years. What was once the single strongest hitting weapon in the game is now on the low end of damage, even the Vandal version is rough to use. We def need an Opticor incarnon or tenet version. Also, I always felt that the Opticor is more similar to the Gauss Cannon than the BFG, with the Arca Plasmor being the true BFG.
@shrek9025
5 ай бұрын
still my most used primary after 7 years
@kumamarru5492
4 ай бұрын
The Opticor Vandal has been my go to gun ever since I first grinded it. I got it when I was still a newbie to the game after grinding thermia fractures. Needless to say... After using weapons like the Boltor and the Braton, the Opticor Vandal made one hell of a first impression. I still use it to this day. I have an Ability Strength/Duration Rhino with Nourish and a Crit/Fire rate build with a Fire rate/Multishot/CD riven. It ends up feeling like a semi-automatic lazer gun. It's very fun. Still one/two shots enemies even in steel path, and stacks slash/viral procs deceptively well thanks to all the multishot and fire rate bonuses.
@1110jesse
5 ай бұрын
One thing I learned after a long time of using hunter munition on many weapons.. Don't just slap it in anywhere and expect it to feel good. Either build around it fully with your whole loadout (primary weapon, primer and frame all make a full combination) to make sure you proc it fast and reliably as possible, and make the most out of it... or then completely half-ass it by running a normal 7 mod build for viral and crit, and just add hunter munition as a last mod instead of something like hammer shot or vigilante armaments. And as far as opticor goes, I'd heavily suggest running with Arcane Acceleration for extra 90% fire rate. I hated the original opticor so much because it was so damn slow. I do like vandal version, not that I use it tho..
@SavageGeneticss
5 ай бұрын
When I first started playing I was in love with the opticor, I still have my old one. Maybe if they ever make more tenet weapons Opticor will get the much needed upgrade is deserves
@ddssrr1614
5 ай бұрын
Incarnon would also be sick as hell.
@Mr.Pidgeon
5 ай бұрын
Gauss would help immensely with redline, or maybe something from the helminth. A vandal video would be nice in addition to the video. Thanks for the wonderful content as usual. Also, warframe review 2.0?
@Shellnanigans
5 ай бұрын
The Incarnon should shoot a richocheting solid laser After the shot the Lazer will stay in the environment as a physical object, making contact with enemies and damaging them. I imagine this as one of those "laser walls" from spy movies Finally it will explode along the line
@SOULxxdragon
5 ай бұрын
Remember back when was trying to get this fun weapon way back when, and really enjoyed the weapon, felt nice using the other variant of our BFG. Thanks for the helpful video MC!
@TheRealsemaJ
5 ай бұрын
Note on vigilante supplies MC. If you put 3 of the mods on a sentinel weapon with supplies on the weapon you %20 to enhance crit even if you aren't running a companion that uses gun sentinel weapona.
@pupuchi5842
5 ай бұрын
Hoping this is the new tenet weapon they teased on devshorts today
@Raso719
5 ай бұрын
The vandal is my go to. Somehow it always seems to hit harder. Of course I haven't used either and quite some time....
@WillowLawson-k3e
5 ай бұрын
My opticor vandal with the typical build vile vital hammer chamber aptitude viral, on zephyr is nuts and on mags bubble it shines with grouping
@DailyAri
5 ай бұрын
Perfect timing, was about to look into this
@theh7898
5 ай бұрын
Hopefully we get a Tenet Opticor soon
@kekistancitizen6900
5 ай бұрын
I switched for vandal long ago, and fire rate issue is not that big anymore
@kilmcm45
5 ай бұрын
Hunter munitions is fine on this.....and since the explosions do magnetic, it works fine on corpus....which aren't as weak to viral+slash combo. Radiation+toxic with the Primary Blight arcane...I can even fit hunter munitions....the slash and toxic with all the extra crit damage....this is great against every enemy in the game and I've even used it on the big robo-spider
@coffeeonmyfoot86
5 ай бұрын
Diriga arc coil, bond mods DeadheadGalv aptitude, galv chamber, galv scope, moar crit, corrosive fire rate etc No Hunter Munitions, just big pp dmg. Its okay for base SP, but not for any higher level content. One shots fodder and two shots eximus.
@NorthInium
5 ай бұрын
I still wanted to have more tenet weapons. Like the exergis, opticor or lenz would have lend themselves perfect additions to the tenet catalog. I still feel like DE cheaped out on the Tenet weapons.
@ugandalorian495
5 ай бұрын
Well since I’ve seen that inaros and hydroid can armor strip Could you do it with other Warframes Just opinion
@米切爾魏特曼
5 ай бұрын
Last time I use Opticor was in circuit I didn't get it fully build with viral slash but still bring it to level 4k SP, hunter munition work quite well on it while it go brrrrrrrrra with infinity ammo😂😂😂😂.
@eyalamit5120
5 ай бұрын
I have a decent build for it. But it uses an Incarnon with more crit chance and fire rate. Still a wee bit slow but pretty consistent.
@RicardoAlmeidatm
5 ай бұрын
They should make it so if the beam pierces more than one target it explodes multiple times. Would that probably make it completely broken with enough clumped up targets? Yes. Do I care? No.
@theeternalslaughter
5 ай бұрын
You should try primary frostbite, it's amazing how much crit it gives per shot and per cold stack
@theeternalslaughter
5 ай бұрын
Mix some corrosive w\status chance + radiation + cold and add primary frostbite with some raw DMG and crit and some weapons will wreck everything up, like the bubonico that with a similar build smashes through anything even steel path and specially if your Warframe freezes enemies
@Kowalzky
5 ай бұрын
2:32 Is that weird effect on the bottom left due to the zariman ephemera?
@BZUltimix
5 ай бұрын
Opticor is still a meta-based weapon just a very old one lol, and I have yet to get the Vandal but I be lazy with thermal fractures xD
@AnymMusic
5 ай бұрын
imo the Opticor should get much more damage in exchange for a smaller explosion radius. Like, it looks like it's meant to be a tank buster weapon. Single target, slow fire rate, super high damage..... but as it stands now it doesn't have the super high dmg :(
@decepticonsoundwave297
5 ай бұрын
That sounds like something they'd do for a Tenet version
@crowofrevelry
5 ай бұрын
Replace the charge time with a delay between shots and it'll probably feel better. Alas.
@DexterPerez-nx8dv
5 ай бұрын
U should use arcane acceleration and avenger on a frame that doesnt need arcanes
@gravidust.2
5 ай бұрын
Just like the lenz, it's alt is what it should have been
@A_Stratos445
5 ай бұрын
Do the twin rogga next!
@cheesejuice_
5 ай бұрын
whats the point of magnetic guns again please remind me?
@cheesejuice_
5 ай бұрын
Warframe: Machinegun Opticor Vandal
@benleighton9013
5 ай бұрын
would this build be better on the vandel version?
@fohz0710
5 ай бұрын
Exergis next please
@M-Filip
5 ай бұрын
TBH I forgot about this weapon
@DomKickPicks
4 ай бұрын
Funny I have almost the same build on my acceltra prime
@enoughothis
5 ай бұрын
Opticor go ZAPPPPPPP!
@theleoshowm3010
5 ай бұрын
Onos is vetted bfg fr
@SUSeARC
5 ай бұрын
Sad there's no tenent opticor
@angelcarranza1558
5 ай бұрын
This weapon needs a tenet version it's would be even more awesome
@domixd7666
5 ай бұрын
e g g
@derpmorederp1417
5 ай бұрын
I didn't even like the vandal version with a riven
@Harbinger421
5 ай бұрын
I love my Opticor. The Vandal is ok.
@lookalike4805
5 ай бұрын
It just Needs Fire Rate.... Luckily the *Opticor Vandal* exists so I don't care about the Original ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@cmdraftbrn
5 ай бұрын
opticor / ferrox both are interesting. and both suck to use.
@wraithlord1444
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for not making it a bigger deal than it really is. If you don't like it you don't have to exaggerate things about it.
@igreshi
5 ай бұрын
I recommend wyrm prime with the bond mods that give final 1.5x CRIT and 60% fire rate to buff the two things that you felt were missing in your build. another thing that could help is actually double stacking CRIT with critical delay and the galvanized mod I'd replace vigilante armaments. Just off the top of my head that's what I'd try
@AtomicAlchemist
5 ай бұрын
Also, put all 4 vigilante mods on the sentinels weapon to get a 20% chance to enhance crits without even needing vigilante mods on the primary weapon
@unsubme2157
5 ай бұрын
@@AtomicAlchemistHOLY SHIT YOU ARE GOD
@gustavosanches3454
5 ай бұрын
This is why if you want to use the Opticor you use the Opticor Vandal, it basically turns the BFG into a semi auto laser canon with decent fire rate and bonkers damage + some aoe
@trevorromein14
5 ай бұрын
Its a sad day when you look at the Opticor.....THE WARFRAME BFG......and can only say, "meh" Its like watching someone tear down the sky and all you do is shrug XD
@koultunami9013
5 ай бұрын
"The Opticor is an old gun" - that hurt
@erPinolone
5 ай бұрын
Jokket, get the Opticor
@Elcharllis
5 ай бұрын
Alad v is an odd boss
@eddoh2701
5 ай бұрын
Jokket: Normal or Vandal? Boss....boss?
@ThePopeOfAwesomeness
5 ай бұрын
I remember the day it came out. Good old days. Use it with the MIGHTY SEER
@SwedetasticGames
5 ай бұрын
I don't exactly remember what update, but it was post-Plains of Eidolon launch, people figured out that the "beam" of the opticor was just a linearized cone, coding wise. So with this, they tried Negative Accuracy. This would cause the "pipe-cone" to start clipping through itself until you had a 180 degree cone of damage with -200%+ Accuracy, and since the beam was Hitscan, it would auto-hit heads in that cone. Was a wild couple of weeks of people using +300% Fire Rate -200% accuracy rivens to make a auto-clicker mapwiping BFG.
@nicktheninja3166
5 ай бұрын
Does this still work this way? don't have a rive (yet) but i am wanting to try and build the opticor vandel. Will also have to make a mental note that minus accuracy is a possible buff on that corrupted mod for [select] hitscan
@SwedetasticGames
5 ай бұрын
@@nicktheninja3166 no, it sadly got patched years ago
@nicktheninja3166
5 ай бұрын
:(
@SamanthaLaurier
5 ай бұрын
Ah, my beloved Spartan Laser. I've tuned mine for normal Starchart as that's what I mostly run, and it's just amazing. Love this thing. Also, I love that the end was basically "I'm not too satisfied with the results, but that doesn't mean it's a bad weapon" Too many creators decide that if they can't make it work, then it doesn't work.
@VexTrooper
5 ай бұрын
One of the issues I've had with the Opticor weapons is the charge/fire rate. One solution was instead of adding more fire rate mods on the weapon, is to bring in a companion with the [Reinforced Bond] mod, which grants 60% Fire rate to weapons. That way, it frees up a mod slot on your weapon, which you can use to add another damage or status mod
@benjaminsherry9443
5 ай бұрын
This gun deserves an incarnon that creates Heavy Barrel Arcade Game/Wave Motion Gun vibes with something like wisps 4 but a bigger beam and not garbage scaling.
@Izanagi009
5 ай бұрын
I don’t like being that guy but any thought on if this build works on Vandal version
@rob679
5 ай бұрын
Just Hunter mumu without viral procs from anything will feel bad
@unsubme2157
5 ай бұрын
Nourish is omnipresent
@MythicqI
5 ай бұрын
Opticors outta date onos is the new BFG
@NathanTruby
5 ай бұрын
When they said they were making Incarnons for weapons that have fallen behind, THIS is what I thought they meant. Opticor is by no means a bad weapon. It's just a relic of the past. The 2nd gen Incarnons we got are good, but I just thought they'd do more.
@sasaquatch13
5 ай бұрын
You can help the fire rate with a Wyrm with 1.2k shield and Reinforced Bond
@maniacalcoast2742
5 ай бұрын
opticor prime would go crazy with protea prime, buyt i can see tenet opticor being a thing too
@angelcarranza1558
5 ай бұрын
Still my most favorite and most used weapon, and I have you to thank for that all those years ago.
@ddssrr1614
5 ай бұрын
Back in the day i got a riven for it & the boom it made was amazing. good times.
@MRx36000
5 ай бұрын
Ohhh gosh, how I loved this weapon xD I paid around 2k plat for a riven with +Critchance+CritDmg+FireRate+Recoil. It was totally worth it, I had a lot of fun with it.
@Zeroydeas
5 ай бұрын
When I want to use the good ol' BFG, I grab Kullervo. I have my companion prime enemies with status effects, build for pure damage + Crit on the Opticor itself, no firerate. When I see a big group of enemies, I cast Collective Curse, fire a shot at someone's head once they're primed, and most of the crowd just explodes. It feels really good, but Kullervo is really carrying it there. For the Opticor Vandal, I do build some fire rate, but I also add punch through. It works really well in narrow hallways with the punch through added.
@julianpeckford-st3wv
5 ай бұрын
Glad to be in a opticor video before kuva and incarnons the vandal it used to be my favourite primary it was pretty broken with og viral hunter and heat also yw for the gift and try a suda drone with inaros before the bug gets patched xd
@Lunictd
5 ай бұрын
Ah, yes, the BFG! I have good memories of this and its little Vandal sibling. Maybe I'll check it out again soon. Thank you for the great videos!
@flamaniax5728
5 ай бұрын
Yo, I did not expect anyone to get my name right on the first try! Most people usually get it wrong! Well, if I can make a suggestion, why not run it on Gauss? Redline boosts the fire rate, and the Redline version of Hot+Cold Thermal Sunder will strip all of the armor from a foe. Hm... Maybe I should try it? I've got Opticor vandal, but it shouldn't be too different, right?
@ML7WL
5 ай бұрын
To me it could keep the slow charge, but amping the damage and giving it full body punch through exploding for smallER (the distribution it has now is kinda low) damage with each enemy the beam touches...or even putting the explosion only when hitting a surface BUT prolonging the duration of the beam;d on't even need to be a held trigger, just firing the laser for some seconds allowing the player to move the stream to hit more enemies or the enemies to walk into it. Or both changes above combined?
@Silvrsterlng
5 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I genuinely think the only thing that holds Opticor/Opticor Vandal back is the magnetic aoe; I swear every time I use it half my headshots do no damage because the aoe took priority instead of the massive laser part. Also the fact that it got self-stagger when the aoe changes went live also is mildly annoying.
@permeus2nd
5 ай бұрын
That fire rate is what puts me off this gun it’s the same reason I don’t like the gattling gun that I’ve forgotten the name of I just hate build up time, if a gun takes that long to get a single shot off you better be clearing everything in a 100 meters ignoring LOS. The fire rate means that if your in a group you aim fire wait miss because your teammates killed what you were aiming at but even if your team dosnt kill it your pet probably will before you land a hit, you have to take your gun off your sentinel so you have time for your main weapon to charge up that’s just silly. Yet again we have another weapon that fails t it’s main job but that’s also a problem with Warframe, the game is almost exclusively fighting at mid to close range so a gun like a sniper rifle or the optacore (I feel like I’m misspelling its name? Darn dyslexia) while a cool idea just aren’t that useful I mean a sniper rifle can hit your from several miles away sadly your so close your licking may face I mean try aiming a sniper when your target is that close😅
@mwyler3390
5 ай бұрын
with the built in magnetic damage in the explosion combined with very "methodical" fire rate, ive had decent utility with the Primary Obstruct Arcane. Disarms enemies within 15 after a mag proc albeit with a cooldown. While you do lose the damage potential of other arcanes, I think its worth a try if you have something more akin to hot weapon swap playstyle.
@boomcat1337
Ай бұрын
im using the tenet arca plasmor. just because this gun is bad.. but it would look so much better on my doomguy cosplay xD
@paulcook4251
5 ай бұрын
Been looking, its actually fodder. I cant think of a single build where there it doesnt require immense outside buffing My only “unique” build is camp nidus with parasitic vitality and teeming virulence, tek adarza, gas and electric
@StudentDriverBR
4 ай бұрын
I remember using it in Vay Hek raids back in 2015/2016 i painted it to look like the Halo 3 M6 Spartan Laser, even with my crap build it was able to hit kill the enemies lol
@Nightmareblackop
5 ай бұрын
Your last build is kind wonky. Like your didnt even use a dedicated crit mod at the end so there was no point strike or critical delay so that would make your damage all over the place. My suggestion similar build but ensure u have a crit mod, vigilante set bonus and instead of Inarous run it with Gauss or Whisp for the fire rate buff and then u will absolutely love it
@ardekakka
5 ай бұрын
qorvex (punchthrough and a grouping tool), arcane acceleration, reinforced bond, viral + electric or more crit + gas and bam, ragdoll grouping tools + electric are nasty stinky
@potatoaim002
5 ай бұрын
I remember receiving this gun when I was only MR5 idk how it worked but I did. Was unloved with it since, still have it till this day and it has 15 forma to it because of the changes with each update
@ivocoelho8694
5 ай бұрын
You have the other opticor so this one feels a lot bad. I would like you to have compared them in same video. Ya now same build different outcome but by how much. Still a thumbs up for me. I love your videos.
@maxineshideout852
5 ай бұрын
The opticor is one of my alltime favorite weapons together with the Ferrox and sadly the Opticor just hasnt been able to move with the times. Back in the day it just oneshot everything and now it needs so much ontop to do much in steel path, star chart still oneshots but still sad
@riddarhyttan
5 ай бұрын
First weapon I hit the visual cap with back in the day. Or rather, Banshee did. It was OK back then but 'Needs help' is the story of this gun.
@Dracowinges
5 ай бұрын
Question about corrosive, if you put the shard that increases the stacks, but you don't have a source of corrosive, but your companion does, does that increase it too, or just if you apply them?
@michaelchang6736
Ай бұрын
I put a lot of charge rate on it so it fires extremely quickly, damage is a bit lacking
@iForeverImmature
5 ай бұрын
one of those weapons that should easly be one of the strongest in the game after all that tedious gring but it's just meh and makes you feel the grind wasnt worth it at all
@jasonglebe3235
5 ай бұрын
The Opticor isn't the BFG. The Opticor is the Spartan Laser. The Arca Plasmor is the BFG
@kilmcm45
5 ай бұрын
I was going to ask why not the Opticor Vandal? I think we might have a Tenet Opticor coming soon....?
@lagartopunkarra
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, nowadays if you want an Opticor you just get the Opticor Vandal, the original one is a bit too slow
@keetongu9511
5 ай бұрын
The opticor is essentially a bow that doesn't recieve the double fire rate bonus bows get. Poor weapon :
@drHandOff
5 ай бұрын
prime shred, basic punch through is only 1m, so u boost both ability to kill groups and fire rate
@heresy0615
5 ай бұрын
Vandal varian next also, is that a glitch on the bottom left corner when you are aiming or just me?
@dancingimmortal448
5 ай бұрын
its issue is the fact its not strong enough to run full ctir or status, its just a raw damage weapon that needs something.
@VengeDracul
5 ай бұрын
Nice. I have the Vandal version and a Riven for it. 😂 I should fool around with it one day lol😂
@Bagheera2
5 ай бұрын
I have problems actually getting it to register headshots because the beam seems to be so "wide"
@Sole_Samurai
5 ай бұрын
are we getting tenent opticor? :^) I will be watching the dev stream. I am excited.
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