Stalker: The death of Alad V will not go unpunished. Also Stalker: Acolytes, kill sAlad V
@pokejust7045
5 жыл бұрын
Well ,he was kinda pissed off about Salad helping us in 2nd Dream.
@Gravity_Katt
5 жыл бұрын
id be pretty pissed too if i had an assassin mark and someone else took it.
@StarForgers
5 жыл бұрын
You sure its not the V salads? :P
@cayde-6452
5 жыл бұрын
he got drunk and hates alad when he is drunk
@calypsomightofthetaken5526
5 жыл бұрын
It was hunhow
@sonicemitter6131
5 жыл бұрын
I really hope they bring the stalker back in the story somehow. Him and the rest of the frames need more story.
@daydreamdirty
4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully a story too that explains how Hungow got involved with Stalker in the first place
@kamp7010
3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of stalkers
@kamp7010
3 жыл бұрын
So ya pretty much there could be story I to it
@potatoeconnectionmohawk1996
3 жыл бұрын
It does seem weird where his story ended off cuz i honestly thought he was dead and wouldnt show up, then he did show up and i was like wait why do you still have War, i thought i killed you and hunhow, o.0
@RoballTV
5 жыл бұрын
Stalker needs to be healed, but this time, not by the operator. Umbra needs to heal the stalker. Umbra saw the Orokin from a different perspective, and didn't choose his fate like the Stalker did. He's the perfect being to cross the Stalker, he's almost a mirror.
@jasondahfolf4325
5 жыл бұрын
Different sides of the same coin, if I were to say so
@Mhoukkie
5 жыл бұрын
would be cool yeah
@thatwarframeguy3855
5 жыл бұрын
TerminalHamster Considering Umbra’s design was heavily based on Shadow Stalkers... It’s kinda perfect.
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
That really makes sense lore wise. It would be awesome to see Umbra take the Stalker under their wing as a surrogate child to atone for the loss of his son.
@xyvxyethe5584
5 жыл бұрын
yes!
@Silosilence
5 жыл бұрын
We do need a Vegeta in the game and stalker would fit just perfectly!!..I hope DE listening to you siege because you definitely make them wheels turn.
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you!!!!
@redx5257
5 жыл бұрын
Warframe needs that vegeta and i love the idea
@kiba7043
5 жыл бұрын
i agree
@stayinsaiko6721
5 жыл бұрын
Ballas gives you paracicis gets no credit
@AlexPBenton
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that tv shows with a character like that often devolve soon afterwards, with more and more 1season villains that switch sides as soon as a stinger villain arrives. Also, alad v is our vegeta :)
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
If they're going to make Stalker relevant again, you could do a couple of paths for Stalker in your lore/story idea. Maybe Stalker was the one who discovered about the Echoes of Umbra during their time with Hunhow. Stalker gets curious after they parted ways with Hunhow, and decided to do some digging with their Acolytes. They discovered they are Tenno themselves, but they were a covert faction during the Tenno wars that were like a wetworks/assassination team (hence their ingrained aptitude to assassinate). They were Tenno mentally conditioned separately and secretly on Ballas' orders, since he knows Margulis would hate him for taking these small number of Tenno away from her. They were loyal to Ballas and were made to think they are just machines, and would be sent out to dispatch rogue Tenno or Orokin dissenters that went against the Empire. After the fall of the Orokin thanks to the Tenno rebellion and Lotus scattering them, they were left leaderless. Stalker and the Acolytes became assassins for hire while finding any opportunity to kill Tenno and their Warframes they ran into that were not in stasis. But they were so hellbent on punishing the Tenno, they've forgotten what they were over the centuries. But thanks to the revelation from the Echoes, they're now conflicted, so they seeked guidance from the Red Veil syndicate that Stalker has neutral terms with. They were told about the events that happened during the Chains of Harrow quest and decided communing with Rell, since like him they were just as much outcasts themselves. Told by Palladino to seek help from the Tenno after she communed vague advice from the sleeping Rell, Stalker reluctantly goes with the idea. Of course after their involvement trying to kill the Tenno, they were hesitant to help so a truce was made after Stalker gets the Tenno to do that Transference link so Stalker could speak and explain themselves. They revisit Lua, since they think it could hold more secrets there. Deeper within Lua, they discovered another Reservoir that housed Stalker and the Acolytes. Stalker's body was intact, but the Acolytes were dessicated, but "alive" thanks to the Somatic Link preserving their consciousness. They discover the device that can create the Umbra Echoes. They create one each for themselves and install one for their Frames. Here we get a lore dump for the player's Frame of choice, and Stalker's as well (I'll leave that to you guys). The Stalker then asks what to do from here, after discovering some plot revelations. Here, they could bring back that morality choice that determines your Tenno's alignment: - the "bad" choice is to try to destroy Stalker and the Acolytes. Stalker figured it was a mistake to reach out to the Tenno after all, and the Acolytes attack the Tenno once the Tenno deemed them too much of a liabilty, stating that they couldn't forgive Stalker's transgressions over the centuries. Here Lotus could pop up, and offer Stalker the chance to join her and her family, punish the Tenno and subjugate the Origin system with her, and Stalker runs off with Lotus. Stalker continues to hunt you normally in game after, but with Amalgam upgrades. - "neutral" choice, let Stalker decide their fate. The Tenno gives Stalker the choice to decide their destiny. Lotus pops up and offers the choice to join her. Stalker is momentarily conflicted, but they and the Acolytes have been acting independently for so long, they decided to join neither. Stalker calls in their special Orbiter and transfer out the Acolyte's pods and themselves out of Lua. Player has to escape after this once Lotus decides to leave you with some Amalgams to fight. Stalker still acts normally, but has a rare chance to help you instead of attacking you during a mission. Stalker will also reveal the ability to fight with their unique Operator model alongside an Echo infused Stalker. - "good" choice, you ally with Stalker. You promise to help Stalker rejuvenate the dessicated bodies of his Acolytes, and decide to work together. Stalker's Operator is freed from their Somatic Link pod, and here the player can customize Stalker's Operator or let DE design a unique look for them. Here the player and Stalker gets attacked by Lotus, after realizing she got to the Stalker's Reservoir too late to make offer them a chance to join them. After successfully fending off Lotus' attack, you return to your Orbiter and get a quest to go back to your Dojo and create a room for Stalker and their Acolytes. With the Empyrean update you can have Stalker and the Acolytes crew your Railjack. A special Epilogue occurs after the good choice, where Lotus reveals she had secretly made facsimiles of Stalker and the Acolytes with Amalgam upgrades, with the now fully Sentient modified Ballas adding the finishing touch to the new Amalgam Stalker. Sorry for the wall of text, but feel free to chip in and add some constructive criticism or additions.
@GanyuSimpingDegenerate
5 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea but I think that there should be a reason to choose the other bad or neutral choices as the good choice has a lot of benefits and no negative downsides
@TheNecromancer0
5 жыл бұрын
@@GanyuSimpingDegenerate Good will have a "Loyalty Counter". You have to keep pumping resources into the Acolytes to keep them from attacking you. However, this should be an Orbiter Add-On instead of a Dojo one. Small amounts of Argon Crystals and Nitain to keep them from going AWOL
@hyperion9793
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNecromancer0 Dude. I would love this. Get this idea more publicized, I'm sure people would love it and hopefully DE would see it and love it too
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
@@GanyuSimpingDegenerate yeah I'm still thinking of other game changing things other than Stalker popping up randomly as usual, you got some cool ideas though? It's fun coming up with stuff like this for Warframe's most underpowered nuisance XD
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNecromancer0 Nitain might be harder to get more often since it's become more of Nightwave locked resource. I do dig the use of Argon due to it's half life duration since it's only around 24 hours. Maybe make it so that Stalker and Acolytes require a different daily/weekly resource, because I'm sure it'll make people lose their minds giving up rare resources to maintain them
@lordaniolist
5 жыл бұрын
"I never see anyone play as Umbra." *Sits back in chair confused, while being an umbra main* XD
@chegorilla1468
4 жыл бұрын
Same here, unless I need to farm.
@gupimisuto6408
4 жыл бұрын
@@chegorilla1468 i use him cuz he can be used in every mission without any problem
@Blazeboy192
4 жыл бұрын
@@gupimisuto6408 yeah I'd do the same but I like to use all the Frames I have.Inaros and Mesa are hella fun.
@sauce6746
4 жыл бұрын
I use him alot cuz i can play as operator with umbra like a teammate. In other words, with umbra i get one-man co-op
@jacobjacob3336
4 жыл бұрын
I tend to use Umbra in alot of missions except for eidelon hunting. He just gets in the way and loses health
@zeonthefox
5 жыл бұрын
remember the mass-produced frames are just clones of the originals, echo's of umbra could just unlock the originals/prototypes memory's
@TabbyVee
5 жыл бұрын
er no, the Echos just implant UMBRAS memory into ur frame, they essentially become Umbra but with a new body
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
@@TabbyVee but it wouldn't be too far fetched to modify the Echoes into a catalyst that unlocks the memories of the original Warframe. It'd be nice to hear the Warframes reminisce about their past, how they're grateful to be given sentience again plus an excuse to have a specter that talks to you other than Ordis during missions. That's what I was hoping with Excalibur Umbra himself when you exit him and starts running around.
@magic_cfw
5 жыл бұрын
I personally don't like the idea of implanting "echoes of umbra" since there is no way lorewise to do that. If the tenno is involved, such as with harrow, it works due to the nature of transferance. Umbra is unique as he is the only warframe reproduced proper. -though I won't object to some super move involving tenno and warframe-
@angeldavidrosarionegron7410
5 жыл бұрын
What if we could get a quest in the same sence as umbra where we find the "original" warframe and re repeat the proces and give the warframe an ai instead of giving it an living soul inside
@georgeg.1066
5 жыл бұрын
@@angeldavidrosarionegron7410 Tell that to Founders, who have Excalibur Prime. Because he is technically the original Warframe.
@thepotato3902
5 жыл бұрын
imagine stalker coming and just immediately killing the hydrolyst
@poti732
5 жыл бұрын
But Than we need a darksiders 2 type finisher , jumps up in the air , transforms into a reaper and throws the scythe to the hydralyst head , the ediolon falls and the stalker summoms back his weapon with a hand motion , the scythe is comming back to the stalker while spinning and cutting off the hydralyst into pieces.
@ultrakiritsugu
5 жыл бұрын
@@poti732 The force is within him
@StarForgers
5 жыл бұрын
Lets be real though unless DE makes this a charge type summon that takes at least 15-20 missions to fulfill the requirements there is no way they will let us have something that cool. And even if they did it would only take 1 limb node off probably... :(
@benjaminlamptey1867
3 жыл бұрын
@@poti732 Darksiders 2 is a masterpiece
@poti732
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminlamptey1867 agreed . Dont really like the third tho , much more limited way less epic and the bosses look like a boss from a fkn skylanders kidsgame .
@gse_panda1316
4 жыл бұрын
In the Second Dream, pretty sure the reason why Stalker hesitated is because he hesitated if he was one of the “mindless puppets” and curious if he had his own operator
@sobrev1viente
5 жыл бұрын
Umbra vs Stalker quest bring it!!!
@afrog2666
5 жыл бұрын
I can`t summon a GF either lol
@lemoosecifer5621
4 жыл бұрын
most underrated comment ever
@zeonthefox
5 жыл бұрын
dude i just read the description to harrow deluxe did DE just hint at RELL's revival
@nezzy5400
5 жыл бұрын
Ohh shiet
@alantacitus
5 жыл бұрын
i agree 100% with your view. Stalker back in the days was feared now he is just another ... well ya understand what i mean...
@destroyerdan6945
4 жыл бұрын
"Don't be scared. I'm not the stalker, just doing a little cosplay" Oh I was scared. Scared that you would drop another Dread blueprint for the millionth time.
@kp5602
5 жыл бұрын
DE: *creates villain* DE: *destroys villain and turns him into a crappy character* Fans: *get bored of lore* DE: *Surprised Pikachu Face*
@carolinejohnson633
5 жыл бұрын
You realize stalker is not the main villan right?
@kp5602
5 жыл бұрын
@@carolinejohnson633 Not just Stalker, Hunhow, Vay Hek etc.
@carolinejohnson633
5 жыл бұрын
Errr no one gets bored of Hunhow? He was just teased and we are also being promised Lotus' mother. Cant say i am bored of lore either bc if you actually read into it it has lots of interesting details.
@carolinejohnson633
5 жыл бұрын
Were promised rather
@kp5602
5 жыл бұрын
@@carolinejohnson633 "If you read into it" Thats the problem, I wanna live this lore, if I wanted reading id buy a lore book and be done with it, this is a video game.
@CronostheStray
5 жыл бұрын
I'm 120% behind that "Vegeta" idea. As for the sentient warframes, this would be a perfect chance to have THAT room on the ship be useable, other than removing cysts once every blue moon. Have a short quest, need to gather resources from EACH disruption mode and have the infestation finally be useable on our ship to inject the "echo" deep into our warframe's core.
@veluta2549
5 жыл бұрын
Got confused for a sec when you said vegeta lol
@maninthewall6819
4 жыл бұрын
i mean even ordus sais "this vail mass" or smt servers you and your warframes. So there might be something there that we could do in future idk. :D
@akhannar9368
4 жыл бұрын
Well, we already have an old ally turning enemy bit, so having an old enemy turning ally thing in Warframe would work nicely in my opinion.
@olivierdols5556
5 жыл бұрын
imagine in a quest where you just play as operator and youre about to die , but then ordis fly's the landing craft to you and drops all your warframes to help you out
@Imperiallife3349
5 жыл бұрын
I used to play armored core verdict day awhile back and you could bring a full squad of mech suits with completely customized AI chips to assist you with missions. It was absolutely amazing, literally the only game I have ever played that actually let you customize your allies actual AI behavior. Well except maybe ff12 with gambits. In short this could actually be possible if DE tried.
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
@@Imperiallife3349 man of mecha culture
@green_eggs_and_damn6100
5 жыл бұрын
So iron man 3 ?
@Imperiallife3349
5 жыл бұрын
@Legendary super Saiyan Broly Yeah they were super fun. Sorry for late reply, I just now received this reply.
@Imperiallife3349
5 жыл бұрын
@@ericfrancisco6615 I've been playing armored core since ps1. I absolutely love mecha stuff.
@xyvxyethe5584
5 жыл бұрын
if only... IF ONLY DE LISTENS TO THE RIGHT PART OF THE COMMUNITY!
@WarframeEnjoyersClub
5 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a tiny snippet of lore that mentions the stalker is a person's consciousness trapped inside the machine? similar to Rell, Silvana or the Unum.
@thomasbogle5359
5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is in the shadow stalker codex page. That he was an orokin guard that was present at the victory ceremony over the sentinels where the tenno rebellion took place
@thunderborn3231
4 жыл бұрын
dont know if you didn't get it when you did the umbra quest but ALL warframes are people so they all have a trapped consciousness
@WarframeEnjoyersClub
4 жыл бұрын
@@thunderborn3231 it's not the same thing. The 4 examples I mentioned transferred their minds completely into a Warframe or some other kind of construct with no way of returning to their original bodies. Umbra isn't like that since the dax soldier was directly infected with the helminth virus and was allowed to keep his memories. Maybe later frames had their minds wiped or got fitted with stronger control bolts that stopped the host for moving their bodies. The lore is quite patchy which leads to speculation and it's also been retconned several times by now.
@alexbotz8335
4 жыл бұрын
@@WarframeEnjoyersClub isn't all frames just mass produced suits. Helminth is us d to make the "flesh" and the transferrence bolt connects the operator to the nervous system/neurotics if the frame. This would mean Umbra is the only converted frame?
@WarframeEnjoyersClub
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexbotz8335 Yeah, that sounds about right to me. I think at one point early on warframes might of been made by experimenting on people with the infestation but working with Helminth probably yielded better and more consistent results. It would seem that Umbra is unique, even after we remade him he still had memories and free will. Warframes might have people parts in them but yeah we are probably just 3D printing them from pre-set templates (blueprints) and Helminth + the operator are the ones giving them 'life'.
@thewolfstu
5 жыл бұрын
I want to fight the Stalker more, it's fun having little duels with him... but... NGL, healing him and joining him would be *Epic.*
@solarmetroid
5 жыл бұрын
While it does sound like a cool idea to Umbra-fy all your warframes I feel like it would make Umbra himself lose what makes him unique. There'd be no reason to bring him along if any of the other frames could do what he does.
@the_RCB_films
5 жыл бұрын
thats a good point.
@daydreamdirty
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I think that’s why they ultimately stopped going down this route.
@Gath_23
5 жыл бұрын
I kind of want to have stalker as a warframe actually
@supersupersadgesuperultrai3639
5 жыл бұрын
Ash plays same
@KeishinB237
4 жыл бұрын
You and everyone else XD
@Hatefulahhnga
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t see the point stalker abilities are like other frames
@benjaminlamptey1867
3 жыл бұрын
He'd be like an Excalibur Penumbra
@Tarak55571
5 жыл бұрын
So you've missed something here. The lotus states in the second dream that the stalker *was* a Tenno, and that revealing the truth of the reservoir to him drove him to madness. He hesitated to kill us because it caused him to remember that he was one of us and see himself in us. The Umbra are a type of warframe, predating the warframes we have now, and there are supposed to be more in the future, so permanent sentience to any frame you want is... A neat idea, but counterproductive in the long run. That said though, if each Umbra needs to have a quest exploring it's history... Could be a stop gap for the inevitably massive wait for each.
@cherryrook8684
5 жыл бұрын
Tarak55571 He wasn’t a Tenno, it says in his codex entry he was a lower guard present when the Tenno rebellion began. He most likely did a one way transfer like Rell or the researcher that linked herself into the forest on Earth and went mad since he is stuck like this now for ages while we were put in cryostasis
@Tarak55571
5 жыл бұрын
@@cherryrook8684 specifically it says 'low guardian', and while we have no idea what that means, the lotus actually stated he was, she showed him the truth of the reservoir, and it drove him to madness. Also, hunhow references this at the conclusion of the second dream; "but you're asking yourself, 'was i one of these wretched things?' (A Tenno) You know the answer, you still hate them, you still hate yourself." He WAS a Tenno, however on having three truth revealed to him (and likely still having his memories of the rebellion) he broke, went mad, and likely rejected his Tenno self. I believe he then either put himself back to sleep to forget or did what rell did, binding himself to a frame.
@alexbotz8335
4 жыл бұрын
Also wouldn't the Umbrafaction of normal frames be tied to our tennos learning how to transferrence control the frames at a range without the aid of tech?
@Tarak55571
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexbotz8335 we... already do that. The transference chamber we used to control the warframes was burned out in the war within. Since then we've been piloting warframes without that tech, through our innate abilities as tenno.
@Tabby3456
4 жыл бұрын
*We all lift together music stops* *Smiles from Juran starts*
@jd_goatt3677
4 жыл бұрын
Apart from the two you've said (which are beautiful ideas btw) I feel like we really need the ordis quest. A side quest once you've scanned every cephalon and ordis reveals his past in a physical quest instead of purely a narrative. It would help flesh out the orokin and the overall lore as well as their backstory, as well as giving form to The Seven, who are becoming more relevant now.
@novadselir1068
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d really enjoy a cutscene where your most used Warframe sneaks off the orbiter after it gains sentience going on a rampage, or massive interact able moment where you have to boss rush encounter and each time to run out of health you swap to a different frame and feel connected as they struggle one after another to help you move forward.
@Rex_W
5 жыл бұрын
While this is a fascinating concept. I'd very much like to know what really makes the tower of the Unum tick
@HypnoticChronic1
5 жыл бұрын
I would say primes should be the only ones that can be infected with the umbral essence, due to them being the "original" of whatever frame while the base frames are just copies. But since that would probably piss off at lot of people who love frames that dont have a prime yet (myself included since I love Gara), my other suggestion would be primes get a permanent infection while the base frames get a week long infection I know DE proposed a 24hr duration in their original concept, but that seems to short to me given most people play for maybe 3-6hrs a day at most due to real life priorities along with it 24hr cycle lending itself to a lot of needless micromanaging. I think this would make more sense lore wise and also give players a slight more of incentive to try and get primes aside from the slightly better base stats and shininess of them.
@ericfrancisco6615
5 жыл бұрын
That would definitely make Prime variants more desirable. Maybe you'll only get partial sentience from the copy and subpar combat AI, whereas the Prime variant will get you full permanent sentience and more capable combat AI.
@HypnoticChronic1
5 жыл бұрын
@@ericfrancisco6615 While I do like the idea the only problem I do see with that is DE has historically had a issue with programming a decent friendly AI in most cases. The only two exceptions I can think of that go against that fact is Equinox's augment and Wukong's 1st ability, so I do not feel entirely confident they can program two separate versions for this idea which is why I suggested the timed vs permanence instead.
@SissypheanCatboy
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the best part of this would be that it would help give more personality. Especially with frames who have dedicated origin stories, like Limbo, Valkyr, Mirage, etc. It would be pretty rad to know Valk's personal experiences before becoming what she is now
@monkeseeaction21987
5 жыл бұрын
when you say "his" pain and "taking feedback" the first person I thought of was Rahetalius.
@Imperiallife3349
5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought to xD
@DennyPhantom
5 жыл бұрын
0:47 Or DE arent very motivated to upgrade the stalkers AI. Cause its always the exact same attack pattern with him. But ya know, i like how your thinking. And teaming up with the stalker, would be amazing.. But.. DE dont have the balls.. And man, i loved your idea, of the stalker showing up to help ya.
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
I just think Stalker deserves a nice story arc, he's one of the most interesting characters in the game with so much potential...
@DennyPhantom
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE All the Characters/Factions in WF have great potential. But stalker, i feel is 1st in line for a full quest dedicated to him.
@megiqn6702
5 жыл бұрын
I sadly had my recording off at the time of the event. But a ways back I was in a solo spy mission as my valkry. Long story short, he showed up and downed me. But never left. He stayed throughout the mission and killed all other corpus enemies that were not even harming him. At first I thought it was a glitch but he kept running at a door and let me get close enough to open it for him. Next thing I know everything is dead and he returns trying to kill me again even though he had multiple times to do so when I was watching him fight.
@Andre-mr4lo
4 жыл бұрын
Megi Qn I had Something similar during lua defense mision, he showed up started killing enemies then attacked my team and When we defeated him he layd Down Like tenno to revive. I was so shocked When i saw that. And sorry for being late.
@aoe3553
5 жыл бұрын
I hope they see this video. Would be amazing!!
@wildcard4552
5 жыл бұрын
is it just me or stalker spawns more often. i got attacked by stalker 6 times in a row yesterday then after that attack gustrag.
@alessandrobaggi6129
5 жыл бұрын
Pure rng coupled with multiple stalker marks on you :)
@bassam5787
4 жыл бұрын
The idea you gave wasn't clear because you didn't say how we could get his loot. My idea was him to be a syndicate like steel meridian or orbiters of hexis. his rewards gives you his loot and his accessory's he has when he is shadow stalker. The way you would get his standing is to kill sentients.
@MetroidMewtwo
5 жыл бұрын
Your idea for the Stalker's definitely one I'd get behind... Though what would be done about the stuff Stalker drops? Does he just randomly crap out the blueprints for his signature weapons whenever he shows up to save your ass? Regardless of that, I'd especially love the Stalker becoming like Odin/Gilgamesh in FFVIII... If the Stalker beacon remained unchanged in function, but changed in context; maybe DE would change the Stalker Beacon to summon some new Assassin that'd drop the Stalker's loot if he changes sides, BUT! If the Beacon remained relatively unchanged, if it still summoned the Stalker, then your idea for the Stalker would make the Beacon go from a tool to farm him easier... Into a "Fuck everything" button to drop on command, at least once per mission. Just, drop it down and watch the bloodshed. ... Sure, that'd kind of defeat the purpose of Stalker showing up as he pleases, but retaining the Stalker Beacons with that concept would get me to actually buy the things whenever they become available(since I was lucky/stubborn enough to claim all his stuff without Beacons).
@Sean__with_Zunsol
5 жыл бұрын
It be a really neat way to explore every warfames lore... oh so many possibilities
@aster1760
4 жыл бұрын
i think a next level idea is having him be a possible frame that when not used can show up randomly as you said. showing just how sentient he is
@TheMastreek
5 жыл бұрын
I've got enlightened right now. Of course there is a moment where each warframe gains conciousness - When he/she breaks War in Second Dream. I never thought of it as the same level of sentience as Umbra has
@helevu9162
4 жыл бұрын
umbra walking around the ship and playing his guitar would be sweet, or him interacting with stuff in the orbiter
@Ace-mo9bq
5 жыл бұрын
Shadow was a guard for the orokin, I believe mynameisbyf explained it
@wilmercasiano24
5 жыл бұрын
They’re adding that mechanic to the game for ALL frames. It was said in one of the dev streams with LIVE gameplay of it as well.
@ksenomorf170
5 жыл бұрын
yes fully support the idea. the stalker lost his creepiness long time ago and is being mauled by us the moment he spawns. he needs to either become more stronger depending on the master rank or something or he should turn into our ally. maybe connect a reputation meter to him? so if u re cool with him, he is your friend and helps you out. if you annoy him he will be your worst enemy.
@ScornedOne1080
4 жыл бұрын
Another option, could be another quest that would lead to the Stalker dropping Specters of himself. A weapon of war struggling with what side it belongs. I would almost suspect that Umber and Stalker could have a history together that we're possibly unaware of. If anything, Stalker is either a warframe that still has it's memories, or is joined to a Tenno that's stuck in a nightmare (kind of like Harrow's).
@Mhoukkie
5 жыл бұрын
the stalker clearing could be cool giving him a bit of mystery like the emmisery followers just picking you up with a mystery behind it , thing is stalker could be extremly doubting himself and maybe now that hes free of hunhow hes wandering around trying to grasp what the tenno and what he is
@marioantoniocruzrodrigues5051
4 жыл бұрын
"I never saw anyone play umbra" Confused umbral main howl
@John-rj9kk
4 жыл бұрын
Well how stalker started was when the tenno killed the orkin and the stalker was a Guard that saw the event go down and was show piss of the he allowed himself to become a Warframe similar to umbra but willing, so stalker is another umbra Warframe that through out the years looks like he is just accepting the facts. Remember the tenno killed the orkin because the had killed Margulies the childrens adoptive mother. So based off that information stalkers see that they aren't much different and that the tenno are just children have had a tough past with them almost being killed. This is kinda my opinion though the past of the stalker is still quite a mystery that may or may not get answered and how the stalker became the stalker is in the Warframe lore.
@TrueHolyRune
5 жыл бұрын
Would be pretty cool to have your Warframes walking around your ship, and give you battle advice when you are facing a tough baddie. Food for thought. I maybe going crazy: Did Umbral say "Hey kiddo" sometimes I return to my ship? Cool vid bro.
@hxrl5838
Жыл бұрын
I've always thought Umbra should be a focus school, one of our own making, that focuses on accessing the human at the base of the frame.
@alexblades5218
5 жыл бұрын
I think a conflicted/insane stalker would be cool- he shows up to kill the tenno with a team of his acolytes using teleports to pull the team apart, OR buffs the enemies already present and tries to kill the player, OR helps the players OR shows up with his team and goes full rampage killing tenno and level enemies.
@Damocles1337
5 жыл бұрын
New quest: Find stalker's operator. Plot Twist: His operator is already dead/bodiless like Rell or Umbra, he is one with the frame Part 2: Help stalker revive his former self or memories so that he can let go of the past Plot twist: The sentient transformation prevents him from becoming whole again Part 3: Help stalker undo the transformation by fighting hunhow and making the roots embedded in stalker inert. (On release, reveal memories to why he hates tenno even more, reviving old memories makes things worse) Conclusion: Stalker is freed from hunhow's control, but his sentient connection lets him control sentients and communicate with Natah in prep for her arrival but otherwise it's business as usual. Functional changes afterwards: Stalker spawns alongside other 2 sentients. Stalker cannot be damaged until you take out the other sentients first
@TabbyVee
5 жыл бұрын
please lord, i have wanted Stalker so bad, either as a warframe or a companion or anything, i just want to be able to interact with him
@Henrico.
4 жыл бұрын
I think the Stalker is Isaah. The way that Umbra jumps in Isaah's throat is a little suspect. I have a big theory in the forge about the Stalker, but, i am brazilian, and i am learning english, so i have my dificulties to explain and show my theory. However, you can only observe Ballas's dialogue with the Umbra, to understand why i think Isaah is the Stalker. Maybe, what the lotus was trying to say, in the Second Dream quest, was that the reason why the Stalker was mad, was because he discovered Ballas plans, that he was manipulated, or something like that. i hope the Stalker would become a playable warframe, i am a Stalker fan.
@KingJerbear
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, this is what we need. All these content creators complaining there is no "endgame" but they offer zero solutions. You can add all the quests and rewards you want but the great mindblowing story is what made Second Dream and War Within so exciting. Thanks for sharing
@CYI3ERPUNK
5 жыл бұрын
totally dig the whole idea ; would also luv to see some lil stuff like : melee v3 ; the Hate/scythes able to be long/heavy/polearms ; give the Dread back its higher crit dmg multiplier, ie 2.5x instead of 2x ; significantly buff the despair in some way ; basically just rework the stalker's gear with the same kind of attention paid to newer gear releases [ie passives/unique qualities/secondary effects] ; ya ; also the player-controlled stalker invasion system
@theculturedgentleman3699
5 жыл бұрын
I love your ideas and I see a lot of potential content-wise also Hope DE listens...
@rafieivory
5 жыл бұрын
As much as i love this idea its hard to implement, cause what if stalker is hunting down the other player, but for us who done the quest, he helps us. The player who didnt do the quest will be so confuse. And vice versa, we who done the quest, he is helping us but then spawn one that still hunt the player who dont, we suddenly start attacking him again when in our story he is nice already.
@Noritoshi-r8m
5 жыл бұрын
I believe Stalker is a Warframe in mid transformation, something like Umbra but not finished. Half human, half frame.
@takanuva6167
5 жыл бұрын
One of the more interesting ideas I have heard is based on the idea that Umbra was the original Excalibur in the lore (since technically Excalibur Prime exists outside lore). If this is the case, this matches him up with the primes, as each of those are supposed to be the original orokin versions of the Warframes. This brings me to my proposal. If each of those primes are supposed to have the original subjects who were injected with the helminth, we could have a series of mini quests for each prime frame that explored their backstory and then granted them sentience. For instance, chroma could be about hunting down the last dragon in the system, or Valkyr could be about destroying the remains of the Zanuka project. Once these quests are completed, the Warframe would gain permanent sentience and gain the ability have one of their powers, predetermined by DE, strip away the sentient adaptation like how radial howl does. Just an idea, but I always thought this would be super fun to explore more of the frames individual stories.
@kenichiotaku3693
4 жыл бұрын
If stalker would become anything like a piece of our arsenal, that would be too many variations of Excalibur. If you pay attention to the stalker's body, disregarding his completely unique helmet, you'll notice he's actually a black Excalibur with red accents. Not to mention how he uses the greatsword war like an exalted blade.
@princesscadance197
2 жыл бұрын
5:18 I’d love to do that with my Mesa Prime. Transfer out. Crouch to void cloak, and have my Mesa Umbra, pop Peacemaker and absolutely clear the room. Perhaps have the ‘Umbra-fy’ thing be possible with any frame. It just takes a considerable amount of resources per frame. Or just limit the maximum number of frames you can do it to.
@notsae66
3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of being able to awaken my warframes, but I absolutely hate the idea of doing it temporarily or even worse doing it by shoving the tortured soul of Umbra into another body. If this ever does become a thing, it needs to be a permanent effect and it needs to not just be torturing Umbra even more; preferably, we would literally restore the sapience of the person that was turned into that frame, but I'd accept having Ordis or someone puppet the body while I'm not there (or both, the Primes are reawakened and the non-primes are puppeted by Ordis, mechanically the same but lore wise different).
@justinboivin
4 жыл бұрын
Great ideas. I would be happy with *any* warframe lore extensions that have some kind of forward movement and are self consistent (there are way too many loose ends and plot holes at the moment, and that makes the game feel a little fragmented)
@cinderpsycho1985
4 жыл бұрын
The first idea that hit me is the duviri paradox we get lost and as all goes to hell we are working in the future and current time our warframe is slowing down, we loose ties to our past or something but our warframe finds us. Instead of us finding it.
@johnpaladin1533
5 жыл бұрын
6:23 many people believe (in the aftermath of Chains of Harrow) it was the Void that aided to Tenno proof of this is a statement by Rell/ Palladino. DISCLAIMER: Haven't done quest for a while.
@insert-user-name-here
5 жыл бұрын
permanent sentience to my favorite frames, that sounds like fun to me
@lastchance1829
4 жыл бұрын
imagine there ends up being a boss fight against hunhow, or some big bad sentient, and stalker just appears and decimates it, decides to occasionally help us (let him still occasionally attack so we get the bps for his stuff) and he can do the whole occasionally appearing and also helping you do stuff, he could be very VERY rare and he does a shit load of damage also the whole making your warframe sentient would be hard, since warframe are only sentient if they have a strong enough memory to remember, such as umbra killing his son
@Xkorpitron
5 жыл бұрын
To be able to heal someone you need to understand what's their pain, what they went through, and we barely understand stalker's pain, or even his motives are, with Umbra we were able to understand cuz we saw what it went through, and his motives.
@warfighter4623
3 жыл бұрын
Deseige: "I never see anyone playing Umbra." I almost always have at least one person in a match playing Umbra. I also play umbra.
@MEYH3M
3 жыл бұрын
same, Excalibur in general is the 2nd most played frame in the game
@RC-Sev
5 жыл бұрын
The stalker is widely believed to be one of the prime and esteemed guards to the seven orokin "gods" and was there when the tenno assassinated them and waged war on the Orokin and bringing it down. That being said, Saint of Altra throws a lot of that into the air. If we're to believe that Altra, Ceres was where the Orokin lords were killed, it would be interesting to see us go there in a quest and meet the stalker, following him and his past as we come to terms to the fact we ruined his life and, in the end, showing him how the Orokin were evil, gaining his trust as an ally, and easing his pain. Idk, the Saint of Altra lore in the leverian has had me thinking lately so I think it'd be a cool idea.
@cerebrumcausam8762
5 жыл бұрын
They can make the stalker back in the story by giving us a a sort of quest that tell us about the operator that is or was controlling him and as the quest is finished the stalker will become something of a syndicate or a special warframe with a super rare drop chance for the parts or even his done and never seen again
@Grandsheba
4 жыл бұрын
They need to "awaken" the stalker and make him the very and I mean the very first warframe. The one before warframe officially started. The frame that could make this high tech spider web shield thing and was flipping all over the ship. I'd love to see him return as the stalker and a lore quest to finally work along side the stalker. Where when you return to your ship he is just walking around, sitting in your room. Observing items, pets, ect. Maybe even going out on his own missions or showing up to aid you in others if you didnt pick him.
@pixelgun4789
2 жыл бұрын
Stalker is literaly badass. My 2nd favourite NPC. After Cressa Tal, yet I think that, if Stalker is our ally, then he would more likely die.
@squeaphily7325
3 жыл бұрын
just gonna put this out there The og frames did all have sentience, but they're built alot differently now so the operator doesn't have to basically be a therapist each time he wants to use a new frame
@Nightwalker170
4 жыл бұрын
Hrm... A series of short story quests for each frame, that digs into the lore of the original frame of each type (Sign me up to go head diving into Valkyr!!). Have it reward you with an Umbra style sentience upgrade for said frame, and a collectible or two related to said lore. I remember doing the Glast Gambit quest. Getting those little posters, and the bits of story that came with them, quickly became more important to me than the frame I was trying to unlock. I still have them on the wall of my orbiter to this day. We need more moments like that. Simple reasons to actually care about a quest past the new toy we get at the end.
@T-REX-KNIGHT
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine after new war story you can build the Stalker frame but you need his weapons to build him. Neuroptic-Dread Chassis-Hate Systems-Despair Blue print-War You can invade players but only 3 times a day.
@potatoeconnectionmohawk1996
3 жыл бұрын
Now i doubt this will be well recieved but i personally would like to have more missions about the time leading up to the zuriman 10, like it might happen in the newest patch they teased that duvari paradox or whatever, but i would be all over a mission where you have flashbacks to surviving in the void, it would also allow for more depth into the void itself which is so far as we know "the man in the wall"
@Tekh09
5 жыл бұрын
Expanding on the Vegeta idea, I think you wouldn't even need to change how he works, they could still have him as an invader the way he is now so you still get drops from him. Treat him as a rival, where you'll get his attention by killing high ranking foes (the bosses) throughout the system, whereupon he sends you that heads up as usual, being all "Alright, you've proven you've got what it takes, I'll show up and we'll test each other's skills". Even his acolytes could take on the rival aspect, expanding the Stalker faction into a kind of rogue Tenno unit, or whatever they fall under, preparing themselves for the New War or whatever enemy that's their highest priority. I think it'd be cool to see a clan hall-esque sort of thing for them, too.
@Raage.
5 жыл бұрын
Stalker might be an Excal type like Umbra and was experimented on By the orokin Like Umbra but unlike him he escaped and He Became The stalker after meeting Hunhow.
@cykablyat5738
5 жыл бұрын
Bro I love this idea, you could tell Stalker has a deeper connection to the Tenno then we originally thought, and to help him with his problems and make him an ally would be sweet, but that begs the question. How would you get the War blueprint or any of his special blueprints that you get from defeating him when he attacks you? Do we vault these or make any enemies he kills have a VERY small chance to drop them? I’d like to hear your thoughts on that.
@neitherlink6612
4 жыл бұрын
I think the Stalker hesitated when trying to kill us because he is, essentially, a warframe, and was wondering if he too was actually a child inside a pod in the reservoir, if he was actually one of us. And that reasoning is logical, the only ones who can control warframes are the Tenno.
@h.lpzc.4304
4 жыл бұрын
we do have a villain turning good and helping us in our need, its called a Kuva Lich, when converted.
@redwolf4611
2 жыл бұрын
the stalker used to be the nightmare assassin of warframe. when he showed you knew you were going to die unless you popped a specter to help you. preferably a rhino. Hell he used have me running around the whole damn room trying to get away from him. now though even the shadow stalker dies extremely quick. such a shame. he was the talk of the town back in the day. lol
@StarForgers
5 жыл бұрын
I just want a way to be able to switch frames mid mission in a long survival or endurance missions. Like a drop pod(health) that can bring down different warframe sets that you premade or maybe just different mod sets for a warframe that you can call down/in.
@NightclubPegasus1
5 жыл бұрын
Echo of Umbra? Nah. Strain of Helmenth? Heck yeah, finally our lad gets to shine and let us evolve.
@Heidao623
5 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: NPC operators. We finally meet the other tenno that were active before/after our awakening. Like in the idea of Iron Wake, there must've been a place where they gathered or at least decided to fall back to in the face of unexpected events, like say Lotus leaving. We know there had to have been a mad scramble to retrieve themselves when Lua came under threat, why else was Teshin still searching through Lua till we arrived during War Within. This can also give us more screen time with Teshin and the Red Veil, two parties that have direct ties of relation to the tenno, as well as encountering tenno that are in league with the other syndicates, like as we are.
@redx5257
5 жыл бұрын
for a long time ive been curious about the stalker and his origin but he never felt like a badguy for me i would honestly feel that evil intempt but looking at stalker now i just wonder i we can cure him
@horacioaust
5 жыл бұрын
my hope is when they actually ad essence of umbra is not just install it and your frame is alive. I want them do it one by one with a story behind each frame. Maybe make each of them a sesson of Nightwave where their story is revealed each week and the lv30 reward is a piece of essence of umbra which you can install to that specific frame and give it back its sentient
@NotStarryVR
4 жыл бұрын
On the topic of self driven warframes, you sparked an idea when you said something maybe like how they just needed something like umbra needed a strong single memory. Like a motivation. I believe, since warframes are technically failed infested specimens, just MAYBE they all have life and emotions. Just not stabilized. Well, until second dream. Maybe just simply due to their previous lives as humans, they still have a portion of human emotion there. As we know, by The Sacrifice, Ballas specifically narrated during the path you walk to stabilize umbra " Somehow from within the derelict horror they are able to 'see' inside an ugly, broken thing. And take away it's pain." Ballas definitely hit something there more than realized. I still need to think less on this, I'm already losing brain cells.
@Psion_Phoenix
3 жыл бұрын
You showed the clip of the stalker in our orbiter that literally proves my theory that the stalker is a dark Tenno. Hunhow says to him “... but you’re asking yourself.... Was I one of these wretched things? You know the answer. You still hate them..... you still hate..... yourself.” That proves the stalker is a Tenno or at least was. That quest also gave us an answer as to why we didn’t know we were a child and thought we were our Warframe, Margulus hid those memories from us after putting us into the dream. And yes, I’ve played FF8 many many times. It’s my favourite FF game.
@theinvisibleguardian
5 жыл бұрын
I really wonder how having stalker as an ally but then also having the stalker mode (player playing as stalker) work together, if either of these two ever were to come into fruition. I guess you could argue that the concept of stalker becoming an ally later would be ok, but would be weird to see an ally stalker spawn but then a lower-ranked tenno with a stalker mark spawn in to kill them.
@UnknownUser-ty5yj
5 жыл бұрын
how can i contact DE to give them my ideas and feedback?
@kylekinnett6093
5 жыл бұрын
By the way incase it wasnt obvious most warframes are made with corpses umbra was alive and inflicted with the "umbra strain" as punishment/ torture however even in the umbra quest it explains that the 1st warframes were crazy and or potatoes implying not all of those people were dead
@Eradose
5 жыл бұрын
Well, I thought the same thing about The Stalker, but instead, it would give us a lore reason for having The Stalker Syndicate, which DE has been hinting at for a while now.
@PapaCrowZ
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see seemless loading screens like with empyrean, better archwings, a use for the kdrives, Chroma's 4 acting as a mobile specter instead of just sitting somewhere or Chroma's 1 to do damage like it does when your armor uses it, I'd also like be able to fly my lander in railjack like a fighter maybe make it the fastest method of transportation, and of course ALL around bug fixes. And everything you mentioned in this video because that sounds cool
@mickafra1564
3 жыл бұрын
maybe the reason the warframe in the second dream gains sentience is because the Heleminth is trying to protect itself and therefore takes over the warframe since the Tenno isn’t in control anymore.
@sonajim6937
5 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting idea that might be able to get stalker mode back on the table of ideas
@shinobiartsmen3964
4 жыл бұрын
But for real though...I REALLY want the stalker skin for my excal...
@samuelhenryguzman-santamar5258
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like maybe there should be an item that can grant your Warframe in the current mission the same ability as Umbra, to become sentient. I think it should be a gear item, and the blueprint drops from a disruption/ Enemy caches (On a very, very low chance). The blueprint would require Intact Sentient Cores and a new material.
@theneedforspeeder9575
5 жыл бұрын
Fix the bugs? Fix the drop rates? Fix the way some missions are explained? Instead of just progressing
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