I swear to God next time Hunhow appears he better break out of Uranus just like Megatron while screaming ''I AM HUNHOW. SENTIENT DESTROYER OF WORLDS''
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
That would be epic... I want our tenno to ride him out like the man in the wall at the end of the New War!
@therecklesswarlock6439
Күн бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE like how aquaman rides that giant crab squid in the first aquaman movie
@thewarriorcat3271
Күн бұрын
We really need to fish Grandpa Hunhow out of the depths, some sunlight might be good for him It'd be seriously cool to team up with him in a Railjack mission or something
@securatyyy
Күн бұрын
Would love to see what hunhow can actually do. He has been hyped up for so long it's time to see what he can do.
@rickvanboberson
Күн бұрын
Seriously though, I hate how much a of little b!t€h they’ve made Hunhow he’s an absolute joke now.
@TipsyBeveridge
Күн бұрын
The way Hunhow says "I remain the great and terrible Hunhow" shows that he wants to redeem himself especially after how much trouble we went through to rescue his daughter. Hunhow is gonna be pretty lonely now that Sorren and Jade are no longer there. Maybe we'll get a chance to work with Hunhow to convince Sorren that we're his ally.
@DioStandProud
Күн бұрын
It's not so much convince as much as it is Sorren needs to come to terms with the fact the Tenno are just as much a victim as he is. That despite everything we are indeed willing to bury the hatchet. I think our boy is gonna come back with his son and they're BOTH gonna be our allies, along with Hunhow.
@bleachedink
Күн бұрын
@@DioStandProud Thematically it ties in nicely too as Hunhow laments the family they cannot have and have also lost, they also sounded (to me at least) a little sad that Stalker had left, they have, as they put it, grown sentimental in their rot. It's a weird found family situation in finding common ground to coexist and maybe even thrive if they can just put old grievances to bed.
@Devilcakes
Күн бұрын
NEW BASE FOR THE TENNO.: WE'RE ROOMING WITH GILF HUNHOW.
@bleachedink
Күн бұрын
@@Devilcakes GILF HUNHOW 💀💀
@Devilcakes
Күн бұрын
@@bleachedink ARE THOSE HIS BONES? :O
@chrisdufresne9359
Күн бұрын
My favorite reveal was that Stalker sleeps like a damned bat. He IS Batman!
@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750
Күн бұрын
I chose the name Sirius. The option was green and logically, it'd seem like Stalker would want to honor his wife's memory and name his son something to she'd want.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I chose the same for what it's worth!
@skinnydelegateofrhyme8637
Күн бұрын
Sirius deeper meaning means brightest star shining in the sky and Osiris meaning is hunter so regardless of what you picked it is fitting
@skinnydelegateofrhyme8637
Күн бұрын
My biggest question was why is there child chosen to be the heir
@permeus2nd
Күн бұрын
I’ve always like the name Sirius (the Dog Star) I actually read the other name as Orion (stupid dyslexia always getting stuff wrong for me) which is a mime I also love but I’m glad I didn’t pick it as ied misread it. Also when we finally meet the baby again we can make the the joke are you serious?
@elainamiddleton12
Күн бұрын
@@permeus2nd Good News: You didn’t misread it actually is Orion. I find it neat that both are based off of stars with Orion being a reference to Orion the constellation
@seirbells9546
Күн бұрын
you couldn't hold a uranus joke in for 1 single minute along that video 😭
@maj0ga.
Күн бұрын
I'm really hoping we experience a time lapse when returning from 1999 and Sirius/Orion is grown up, leading his Father and the Acolytes. So much potential can be made from this I can't wait to see the outcome. Also if there is a time lapse, I kno its unlikely but there is a lot of hinting that Granum could revert Ordis back into the Beast of Bones. Couldn't see anyone better holding off the enemy forces while the Operator is gone during a said time lapse in their place than a resurrected Ordan Karris.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Here's the thing, we don't know how long it will take for a warframe baby to grow. Maybe 18 years... but probably more like 2-10 and would allow DE to bring it in whenever they want. And... while I'm not sure we'll get Ordan Karris back, I'm betting more and more that Ordis will have some kind of combat capability... maybe even a warframe, in the same way shown in silver grove...
@eror404acountnotfound9
Күн бұрын
@TheDsIEGE hear me out we can summon ordis and he controls your necromeach remotely
@stevenhead2284
Күн бұрын
Very much yes, or ordis has a warframe with an exalted necramech@@eror404acountnotfound9
@greyalbert9529
15 сағат бұрын
I'm willing to bet that proteia might be crucial in order for that to happen to ordis I do hope we get to see the beast properly
@aphermion
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1311">21:51</a> Yes, I think this is the case. There are meta reasons why Jade must be the original source of the Jade light. Basically this: An author shouldn't write about Pegasus, hype up a flying horse, yet not have it be the Pegasus they kept writing about. Jade the Person/Warframe, Jade the color, Jade Light ... it pretty much must be an absolute connection. The Warframe writers are basically screaming wolf at us, while our faces are right up against the nose of the wolf. But there is also an in-game connection that seems to fit: Glory on High's alt fire fits how executions by Jade Light are described by eye witnesses. "Use alternate-fire to detonate Judgments, causing an explosion of Jade Light" Compare with: "the Archimedian erupting into a flash, jade-like and blinding. I knew her. She was the greatest scholar of genetics who ever lived. Except now she was nothing but mist and gore..." "Mist and gore" implies force and "into a flash" implies abruptness and intensity. If this doesn't fit, I don't know what does. There is also some character called Myrmidon. Made use of the Jade Light through a device strapped to their wrist. Killed Warframes with it. An Ophanim Eye could fit. Would also explain how Jade Light can be present without necessitating Jades presence, at least if we assume the Ophanim Eyes can be manipulated in this manner, though this seems almost like a trivial engineering task for Ballas. But this one is super speculative. I could've been too deep in Uranus too often, and now I'm seeing Jade Light everywhere.
@thimovijfschaft3271
Күн бұрын
Parvos also calls her the executioner.
@dreamlessking9
Күн бұрын
This quest was definitely one of my favorites, and i hope they bring orion and stalker back for a future quest. Also I totally thought stalker was gonna put his kid into a transference pod.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Guaranteed they will, and I'm betting it's either gonna be a big one or... the beginning to the final battle.
@marcmichaud1643
Күн бұрын
Rebb already said they're working on something in the last Devshort.
@xenon3990
Күн бұрын
It’s Sirius, not Orion
@NMG.11
Күн бұрын
I named the child Sirius because it was marked with Jade's color, so I thought Sorren would want to honor Jade and not his hatred through the name Orion.
@vaerminax
Күн бұрын
@@xenon3990well its either or
@waterpicker6879
Күн бұрын
I believe hunhow is simple. He's lost so much and almost lost natah (lotus) for good. He might not like it but the tenno are his grandkids. Alliance might be as far as the relationship goes but its all he has left with new war taking also his son Erra.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Interesting that while the Lotus was given children through the tenno, it would seem Hunhow has been given the same gift and is only beginning to understand.
@chrisdufresne9359
Күн бұрын
Hunhow is basically the angry grandpa that begrudgingly acknowledges his descendants.
@RetroAmateur1989
Күн бұрын
@@chrisdufresne9359 unlike Mark Hamill 😂
@valnaz3404
Күн бұрын
Me to
@jacobmc9738
2 күн бұрын
I see it's 3 hours earlier than was originally announced, nice Edit: just realized because he announced it in eastern time, but I'm in pacific, oof
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
LoloL, I saw that earlier and was wondering if I did something, lol
@DragonFangX
Күн бұрын
They are certainly building up Parvos for the future, now having him appear in two themed missions in a row and even giving some interesting dialogue with Balas in the Protea Prime trailer. The Worm Queen better step her own game up before the Grineer fall behind.
@GrimViridian
Күн бұрын
I desperately want to sew tyl regor in the spotlight, I absolutely love his personality and voice actor
@lozm4835
Күн бұрын
He's also the fourth character to have confirmed interactions with the Man in the Wall (Tenno, Albrecht, Lotus and then Parvos in confirmation order), and he has actively spoken Voidtoungue too.
@bulletproofwhale5869
Күн бұрын
Here's what I believe happened based on your observations 1. Jade herself worked on and/or created the Jade Light as a method of healing and termination, and probably worked with the Orokin Judges in some way, thus being somewhat High Society. 2. Sorren was a soldier, a Low Guardian. He and Jade met, and fell in love. They had to keep it secret due to how brutal Orokin society was. 3. Jade became pregnant with Sirius/Orion, and they hid it as best they could. When she started showing, she told the Orokin that the father was some other law officer or scientist across the Empire. 4. But, Ballas or some other Orokin found out that Jade and Sorren were meeting in secret, and put two and two together. (Around 8 months into Jade's pregnancy, I'd say). 5. Ballas found out and was PISSED. But he couldn't waste the talents Jade and Sorren had offered to the Empire, oh no. 6. The couple was arrested, put on trial, and sentenced to the Helminth. However, both were exposed to low levels of the Jade Light as well, one final torture before the transformation. 7. Stalker/Sorren survived, changed in the red Excal we know him as. Jade also survived, but her pregnancy was severely slowed, the baby having to protect itself and his mother by slowing its own development once turned into a Frame.
@lagartopunkarra
Күн бұрын
Props to Gianni Matragrano for doing a pretty sick Stalker voice
@DioStandProud
Күн бұрын
I chose Orion because its a set of three stars. Sorren, Jade, Orion. Because even though Jade passed, she will live vicariously through us, protecting the system unlike her husband who subjugated it's protectors. Basically acting as the guiding star (Sirius) whilst Sorren raises their child. Makes it much more wholesome in thst way imo.
@rossjones8656
Күн бұрын
This was such a short yet such a head trip. Thanks for trying to make sense of it.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
You aren't kidding. Small quest, HUGE implications. Blew my mind.
@rossjones8656
Күн бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE warframe is one of the few franchise that can do it.
@singletona082
Күн бұрын
Stalker wil step in while we are in 1999. He now has a reason to act. To protect his child. I wanna know what hte acolytes are. Were they stalker's old unit? Derranged fans? Clearly they are like him. I suspect honestly they're his old unit. I wish we'd gotten t osee them. Then again thta is somethign I want because it gives them new purpose. Something to live for beyond revenge and old wounds.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I was hoping they would have been included to some degree but... It's possible their association with him might mean they are low guardians as well, with similar purpose. As far as stalker is concerned... I've been hoping for this moment for years. A reason to ally...
@djdarkskinss6415
Күн бұрын
“ I will remain as the great, and terrible Hunhow” At least he still understands what it means to be a father but it sad he still awaits a purpose he cannot abandon but what purpose ? Mother sentient? Or something else? As for the shadow and his kin what future will they decide Note: Its still amazing an actual warframe giving birth. What can of sick golden lord thinking!
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Over time... I've really come to care about Hunhow. I remember when he was like the BIG BAD but like now... he's the tenno's grandfather, as another commenter said. I never really thought of it in those terms, but I wonder if he too maybe considering the same thing.
@thimovijfschaft3271
Күн бұрын
Maybe there'll be a point where he and Lotus/Natah/Margulis reunite peacefully, because he finally gets to truly redeem himself.
@croissant2434
Күн бұрын
I remember some discussion of peoples that speculate that jade could have been an archimedian that discovered/invented the jade light. It could explain why ballad choose this specific warframe to have jadelight based ability. We know he love cruel irony in his designs of warframe.
@ChristopherSadlowski
Күн бұрын
My "dad instincts" kicked in so damn hard when Stalker took his baby frame in his arms. I was like, "I will jump in front of a bullet myself for this metal baby machine thing! NO HARM SHALL COME TO THIS CHILD!!!"
@keithcarson7638
Күн бұрын
I firmly believe that the Jade we got, since, she's a copy, is not AS powerful as original Jade her self. considering how she's a source of the Orokins most painful punishment. Hence why peepaw Hunhow says she "still haunts" Uranus, and why we have to pull her essence out of Uranus, as painful as it sounds. Because if Parvos got his hands on enough data to recreate a mobile fleet of Jade light eximus with the same amount of power as the real Jade light, we'd be screwed.. or at least have a much harder time dealing with them. Also, I'd like to believe that each warframe we have, despite being a copy, retain SOME of the original's personality, hence why each one has their own unique idle animation, and why when Hunhow gave us Jade, it was in the last state she was in.
@ChristopherSadlowski
Күн бұрын
My question is if the Tenno still need a human to build our Warframe around? Because if we do that's...concerning. Were we able to figure out how to mold the bio-steel and shape an artificial nervous system? Or do we still need a base of meat and bone to start the process of making a copy of a Warframe?
@Halovenom-yz3km
Күн бұрын
@@ChristopherSadlowski I believe it to be think of a 3D printer. And your hemith segment. We didn’t need a human to build it. But also we do have the warframe cryo pods we protect and they say they are fallen allies so they could be what we protect is a basis of our warframe preserved. And the 3D modeling is just added essence of what the warframe was. Like jade we add jade essence.
@keithcarson7638
Күн бұрын
@@ChristopherSadlowski well no, we're just using other materials to build them now rather than having to get a human body. Probably using mostly infested flesh from the helminth to make new ones.
@highpol1ce
Күн бұрын
I'm glad you talked about them mentioning the "Jade Light" in passing dialogue. I wish they would've expanded on that. I was coming up with a theory that she was their executioner or something of that nature. Also, not only enternalism. But we are about to mess with time travel. Ballas is still alive in the past...
@Garbear0119
Күн бұрын
I have a theory of where this could go next: There is the ongoing story of Narmer at play with Pazuul or however it is spelt. There is also a God named Pazuzu who the name is likely derived from, and this God protects pregnant mothers. This could lead to a unified story between the Narmer plot and the Stalker plot. Said God’s rival is one whom kidnaps children at childbirth, so there could be a rival archon to Pazuul who wishes to seize Jade for themself, and somehow could lead to an alliance between the Stalker and Pazuul.
@loremasterdasmodeus8285
Күн бұрын
Wasnt Pazuzu a demon who kidnapped newborn children?
@loremasterdasmodeus8285
Күн бұрын
OH it was Lamashtu that took newborn children...
@4g3nt06
Күн бұрын
I imagine the operator or drifter rolling their eyes every time the stalker shows up and drops a dread bp while bwing shot at by corpus or grineer with 20k overguard
@marcmichaud1643
Күн бұрын
I've said this previously but here's my prediction: After WF1999 we return to the current timeline in its future and will experience a "Time Jump" Protector Stalker will be the Guardian of the Origin System while we're back in 1999, and Orion/Sirius will be an adult upon our return. I picked Orion, since it would be Stalkers decision.
@SteelxWolf
Күн бұрын
Im just glad it confirms what Jade Light is. Or at the very least how its power is channeled. The baby WAS the jade light within her. Ever since Ballas mentioned Margulis’ execution by jade light I wondered if it was literal, slang, or some kind of metaphorical thing.
@samialeshamly7301
Күн бұрын
I might of not been paying attention, but when he referenced the jade light, I wonder if he was actually talking about the Warframe herself, maybe they only used her for her light and at the time the baby didn’t drain her badly like it did towards the end
@RavingRoman
Күн бұрын
I would love and hope so much for Captain Xeto to join us in the camp, and even be helping Kahl. We would then have both grineer and corpus figures as allies. Thinking about it, imagine if the Acolytes also became allies. They and the Stalker can protect the entire system if we as players either get stuck in 1999, or head off to Tau.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Me too and I think that's where she'll end up sooner or later
@thimovijfschaft3271
Күн бұрын
They did say that they wanted to bring the Velco gameplay back. (Although as a different Corpus since Viko is canonically dead). Seems like a good oppertunity to tie this to Xeto
@agingerbeard
Күн бұрын
I just can't call the dynamic between Albrecht and Loid "love". It's monstrous and abusive. I would have thought the master/slave dynamic would be shamed from the rooftops, but for some reason horrific relationship dynamics are touted as laudable in gay relationships in modern media, and I'm sick to death of it. I don't know what stopped Wally, but it wasn't love.
@azurehorizon6097
Күн бұрын
I remember choosing Sirius because after a quick mythological dive, Sirius was the brightest star in the night's sky, I chose that name since it is implied Jade wanted that name , but also because you could see the child as Stalker's brightest light. In a world of darkness, where he spent untold centuries or even millennia hunting and assassinating Warframes, he now has a new purpose, to protect both his and Jade's light. My head-canon is Jade and Sorren were in a class defying relationship as you suggested, given how strict the Orokin were with class hierarchies and staying within your assigned caste, they obviously had to keep this a well kept secret, but somehow Ballas found out, either because Sorren was a guardian in his vicinity for a long duration of time, or he just found out through whatever ways he had back then, but instead of just punishing both Sorren and Jade for this violation of Orokin societal norms, he instead chose to blackmail Sorren, assigning Sorren to be one of Ballas' personal guards in exchange for Jade's continued safety, so long as he didn't interact with her again. Ultimately it didn't last in one form or another as Jade eventually did become a Warframe, likely becoming the lead executioner of the Orokin, although it seems like Sorren didn't know this even up to the time of Jade Shadows, but Ballas wasn't done being a manipulative scumbag, when the Tenno eventually rebelled and decapitated the Orokin Empire, leading to it's swift fall into chaos, Ballas influenced Sorren into believing that Jade was still alive, but she was butchered, child included by Tenno beasts. this would foster his unyielding hatred for the Tenno that would continue to burn up until present day, I now personally believe that before Ballas went into hiding, he gave Sorren to objective to destroy the Tenno, but in order to have a somewhat even playing field, Ballas offered the Helminth Strain to Sorren, to become a Warframe in order to complete that objective, using that one memory of the love he lost and the child he never got to see, he became a fully sentient Warframe, much like Umbra. Loved the video DsIEGE! You definitely helped clean some stuff up regarding the quest in a way that makes sense, hearing your take on the Belly of the Beast event in your next video is gonna be fun as well
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Thank you and I like your take on it as well. I'm working on the next one as we speak, should have it out soon!
@greap2294
Күн бұрын
Id like to mention this. Ordis' first thoughts when something unknown is in the ship. Operator. (Cares deeply for them) Umbra. (Only living warframe abored) Helminth. ( to qoute ordisn "literally, the bowles of the ship") <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="694">11:34</a> Edit for other things i noticed. He calls the operator in a worried tone. Umbra in a confused tone, and helminth in a desperate/displeased/annoyed tone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edit 2: What id like to see is the stalker, unable to go anywhere else to find safty, comes to us to protect his child and we'd get an option (or its chosen for us) to let the stalker join us abored our orbiter.
@gionharis13
Күн бұрын
for the record... "hijau Langit" means "green sky"... what happened to Stalker was not the first, nor the least... any who... that was a good VA work bro!!! hope it will be more of it in the near future... Swazdo-lah Surah... stay safe Guargian...
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
VERY INTERESTING! I did not put that together my friend, and... I agree with your take on the Stalker as well. BTW, thank you regarding the voice work, and yes, there will be much more of that. I really enjoy it!
@gionharis13
Күн бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE well... What if... This is the big IF... There's something called the child of the Void... That we know now as the Tenno... The "Demon"... What if the "child" of the Hunter is the "Angel"? Not the hunter... But the one that ends the Demon? Anyway Amazing work as always Quick question... Why did you pick the dog, but not the Master? Swazdo-lah Surah... Stay safe guardian..,
@xemgoa9512
Күн бұрын
To be fair... we may've killed the Long-Armed Father of Warframes -- but was that really him? Or perhaps a Void-borne doppleganger? Or could it be really him -- and his "other" decided to do things differently from his more corrupted counterpart, and is more observant of the going-on's as they unfold?
@astephens3600
Күн бұрын
My two favorite things about the quest are the story itself and the music.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
All instinct too... He only realized the child was alive moments before and still gave his body for him. A father's love, if true, is unconquerable.
@0oAngel0fDeatho0
Күн бұрын
I gave the child name Orion... simply because of the meaning: Orion is mentioned in the oldest surviving works of Greek literature, which probably date back to the 7th or 8th century BC, but which are the products of an oral tradition with origins several centuries earlier. In Homer's Iliad Orion is described as a constellation, and the star Sirius is mentioned as his dog. In the Odyssey, Orion is essentially the pinnacle of human excellence in hunting: Odysseus sees him hunting in the underworld with a bronze club, a great slayer of animals. In some legends Orion claims to be able to hunt any animal in existence. He is also mentioned as a constellation, as the lover of the Goddess Dawn, and as the most handsome of the earthborn. So... Since Orion is a Hunter and Sirius his dog... I simply chose name Orion...
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
It's... a worthy choice without question and Orion will go on to do great things!
@RaptieFeathers
13 сағат бұрын
I've been calling Hunhow a potentially ally ever since the New War, and it felt so good to be vindicated with this story. The reasoning I gave people is pretty much what we end up seeing here: New War showed how tired he was, how hurt losing his daughter made him feel, how it made him re-think his priorities, and how the Tenno are just as much victims of the Orokin as he is
@thedarkknight727
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="672">11:12</a> I found it a bit curious, of how Stalker could easily teleport into our orbiter. Which means that he could have probably been able to kill US, whenever he wanted. 😅
@Terra_Tempurra
Күн бұрын
As he leaves to leave Uranus with its sheer huge Normandy
@philtheleo
Күн бұрын
you know what ? if DE don't Make warframe Based off Of who Ordis was in the past I will be so disappointed.
@bleachedink
Күн бұрын
"Consider that, this baby most likely has the capacity to also grow" Picturing how funny it would be that Sirius/Orion is in fact the first baby Warframe, does NOT grow up and this little fella is just slaughtering hundreds across the system, Paving way for DE's end goal: Baby Looney Toons Warframe style spinoff
@LilithLonelyHeart
Күн бұрын
Ok, so 1st thing that I feel like a lot of ppl might be getting wrong, is that Jade finding Stalker again is a recent thing, just with Hunhow's speech during this diorama "Of all the gods, Kings, and golden lords, she saved you" seems to imply this choice happened back when it was still a choice, so most likely during the Terminus massacre, this would mean that Stalkers lair in Uranus was there for a long while and that also Jade was resisting devastating effects of her pregnancy for a really long time (tho the other option implies she did so when being much more active to find Stalker), and also I think that reason behind her no longer resisting pregnancy might be a bit deeper than just Tenno transferring into her and bringing back her memory of Soren, she seems to have been aware of Stalkers emotions, and perhaps, when she felt that he broke trough his hatred of Tenno to ask them or help she decided he might be ready for fatherhood, now he put priority on his love above his hatered, after all being a father when constantly hunting down some of the most powerful warriors in the system is not good idea
@sethharpenger607
Күн бұрын
'As sound of mind as anyone else in this system' hahahahaha the bar was set so low
@mike.villain
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1065">17:45</a> You walked right past an ayatan sculpture...
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I totally did, lol... Good catch! That was a good one, too...
@thekingofravens4322
Күн бұрын
Orion, The hunter, The guardian of the stars,
@draylonbledsoe540
Күн бұрын
Of all lore vids i personally like yours the best and i am eaglery waiting for warframe 1999.
@vincentrei4446
Күн бұрын
Here's my theory, and some food for thought. I believe that Jade is the source of the Jade Light, but as an orokin, not a warframe. Timeline-wise it wouldn't make the sense that the warframe's the source, knowing that Margulis died by the Jade Light. The warframes are described as feral in the pre-Zariman days and they had to be locked up. Had they been able to be controlled, let alone harvested for death ray particles the warframes would have had a lot of use even in the days before the transference. I highly doubt that in what I believe is a couple years at most that Margulis was able to teach and control the Tenno and then for the Orokin to be able to reverse engineer the death ray and to subsequently implement it as a special kind of execution. I agree that their love was forbidden, but not because of Sorren's duties but Jade's, as here she'd have been an important researcher, possibly an Archimedian. There are two things we all need to think about. One is small scale, yet I feel we have forgotten since it happened at the very beginning of the quest. Why does Hunhow question Jade's motives for saving Sorren during the Tenno uprising? He puts it like she would have had more reason to save someone of the Orokin instead of him and that just doesn't make sense considering what we know of their relationship. My current hypothesis is that he somehow tried pleading with the Orokin instead of keeping their relationship secret, thus leading to her being turned into a frame as a punishment, and him maybe even as a reward. This whole thing is build on the fact that as the Stalker he does everything he can to uphold Orokin morals and values, even though they fucked him over more than most. The second thing to think on, and this is a biggie. Sorren was already a frame during the Tenno slaughter, and so was Jade. This means that now canonically there were Tenno-less warframes being placed on low positions, which to me means there were many of them. I don't believe that during any point in time he was being used by an Operator, if he was piloted during the slaughter he would have been part of it, and he would have had no way to kill his Operator as he didn't know where the Reservoirs were. It would also explain his confusion during the Second Dream, as he'd have to question whether his life as Sorren was real or was he a dreaming child. This opens up a whole can of worms when you think about it. The Primes are the original soldiers turned warframes, and the regular frames were duplicates, but how many of them were there. Because even though the Zariman was a big ship meant for colonizing, there couldn't have been that many children there, and we already have 50 frames to account for. How many ordinary frames were there, were they piloted by anyone, if so whom. And the final thing that comes to me as I write: when we rebuild Umbra, we turn ordinary materials into a copy of a frame which then has the personality and memories of the original frames. Would these mass produced frames have copied personalities? Does this allow for another kind of immortality, one where a core personality can be reborn again and again for three and a half days in a foundry? I'll leave that up to you
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I like that!
@andrewjhollins
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="889">14:49</a> Magnanimous, adj.: generous in forgiving an insult or injury; free from petty resentfulness or vindictiveness.
@danshrk
Күн бұрын
Jade Shadows was such a good quest. It managed to coherently squeez so much info into so little space. I love where were going with stalker but im more facinated by hunhows development on the side. Hunhow of all entities in the Origin System, could make for a great ally vs the corpus when they inevetly start hunting down stalker.
@kashiangel07
Күн бұрын
To touch up on the idea of the possible effects of the grey strain on Stalker’s child, the child of a fallen angel is a Nephilim which is a giant. Maybe this could be a thing.
@alanabyss9246
Күн бұрын
I just hope that Stalker and Jade’s child grows up happily and healthy.
@Halovenom-yz3km
Күн бұрын
I agree with a lot that has been said. I really hope we get his former allies into this and learn the mystery’s possibly behind them. I don’t see ballas coming back. But possibly another warframe can help. Understanding of umbra and the umbra link he has. Would the stalker have a stalker link? Would we be able to upgrade our warframe like an incarnation weapon to look like stalker eventually? I do wish to see the child grow up. Could this gray strand be harnessed? What other properties does it have and could it be a possible answer? Fight with bigger warframe I find it hard to believe we would use an army of huge warframe a but possible fight fire with fire. New entity’s show up at every corner. Will warframe 1999 show a weakness to the man in the wall or will we fulfill our deal with him to fight something bigger? I feel we are moving towards amending a relationship with stalker to possibly form a new stalker faction or a new area like the iron wake. I agree with alot that’s said. Great video love the work put into it.
@shyshek_shyshkovic
17 сағат бұрын
Team Sirius here! I hope the child will turn out to be our triumph card against The Man in the Wall.
@DragonFangX
Күн бұрын
This storyline I think also has pretty much confirmed that not all those who become Warframe's lose their sanity completely if at all. Of recent stories, we had how Dante was spoken off sounded as if he died with his sanity intact with no Tenno behind the body and now we have confirmation both Jade and Stalker are Warframes with no Tenno. This goes into detail perhaps why Stalker always said 'Tenno' and not 'Warframe' in his dialogue - he had atleast enough of his sanity intact to differ there was a difference between the two. Makes one wonder if we will eventually see more 'Umbra' type frames in the future. Tenno Con can't come soon enough. XD
@Max44321
Күн бұрын
Reckon Jade was laying there, pregnant for untold thousands of years since the Orokin era? I assumed Stalker went to Lua to find Jade, the Tenno her, or maybe recover himself from there too since without a Tenno to channel void energies into them, warframes are strong but don't have space magic powers, and Stalker has space magic powers so he must be there somewhere. That just raises so many questions...was Jade's Tenno just laying there in her pod and suffering a slow draining death for untold years until the birth? Lacking answers just raises so many weird questions..
@_WetSand
23 сағат бұрын
I don't think there was a "Tenno her", I think Stalker and Jade are just like Umbra (who was a Dax, didn't had void powers but still could use exalted blade), it's just their bodies turned into "metal-flesh". That's why Warframe-Jade is pregnant, because Jade got turned into a Warframe while pregnant
@patrickempson7366
16 сағат бұрын
About time… this one was a heavy one.
@herrdoctoroetker
14 сағат бұрын
I chose Orion because I fear he will need his father's strength more than his mother's kindness in the days to come.
@JACE77707
Күн бұрын
I named the kid Sirius as a way to honor Jade. I had the same thought process when I chose Margulis at the end of the new war. I just hope DE will have those choices show up again. I'm still waiting for the second dream choices to matter.
@InfernalAkuma
Күн бұрын
As much qs i adored this episode i jave to point out the joke no one is talking about.THE DEPTHS OF URANUS,AND INDEED,IT IS DEEP -DeSiege
@Ace_2O2
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="270">4:30</a> i‘ll take that as a compliment, thank you very much!
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
You should!!!
@Solusarian
Күн бұрын
Jade light appears to be a force of truely "recycling" an Oro in terms of eternalism - unlike any other options of apparent death, rebirth, exile, change, corruption, it truely transforms one life into new life, free from the baggage of the past or the possibility of change.
@permeus2nd
Күн бұрын
A line that’s stuck in my head is the bit about the stalker if gone from his lairs but she still haunts this place, what did Hunhow mean by “”she haunts this place”” ??? We know so little about the Warframes and this incident goes far beyond even that limited knowledge, what actually happened to Jade we saw her disintegrate but did she die? the only other time we know of a Warframe actually dying is at the hands of the stalker (also when he kills the frame and takes its head dose that kill the operator? As that’s pretty dark) though I kinda guessed that the bosses we beat for Warframe schematics have probably killed that frame that’s how we are able to get the info to build that particular frame, but what happens to a Warframe that dies? Dose it become a ghost?
@PreciousCosmos
Күн бұрын
it might be that she was scanned at some point to try diagnosing her, but beyond that, it's an attempt to weave her into the narrative even tho she probably wasn't thought of until this past year. like the idea is she'd been in the lair wasting away for a long time by now and it affected the stalker's mental state. and yes she died giving her essence to the baby à la steven universe. what we have of her now is a fabricated clone that's not designed to be conscious 😢
@_WetSand
23 сағат бұрын
Maybe he's talking about the Motes we have to collect in the new mission, the mission starts at the Stalker's lair
@thatguyzerg
Күн бұрын
My theory about Albrecht not knowing about Jade is that she is an exception, something that cannot be predicted by any simple means. Stalker and the Acolytes clearly were all low guardians, yet Jade, as one of the numerous ways Ballas would insult those he considers beneath him, he made her different to mock what is to him the disgusting existence of an inferior person DARING to bring new life, probably because doing so is considered a privilege in the Orokin society. By doing so though he allowed the existence of what could be one of the most powerful future independent Warframes, Sirius or as I like to call him, Sirio in my language, the brightest star in the sky, making the event of bringing to life an exception, both literally and also metaphorically, something unique. As we know, uniqueness is something that the indifference seem very attracted to as Albrecht noticed as well. So yeah, the child, Stalker, us and the indifference will cross paths again
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I agree and I believe that will be the reason this child is the key to... well, everything.
@RollerBaller
Күн бұрын
That baby is gonna have one hell of a puberty
@l4w1nc0l7
Күн бұрын
i choose orion for 1. its my favorite constellation, one where i can see it every night 2. it honors stalker's legacy, for it too will be trained and become the hunter 3. when u think about it, orion represents as human, the same symbol like the vitruvian man 4 would love to see orion as female, who's powers and abilities can be similar to both stalker and jade somday also would love to see and rescue xeto to be part of tenno's ally, for not only saving stalker, but she reminds me of tat one corpus unit who died in the new war, one tat he rejects alad v's orders...xeto would be interesting...
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
These are all wonderful reasons!
@Redo323
15 сағат бұрын
"Depths in Uranus, it's deep, no doubt about that!" 😂
@trevor2213
Күн бұрын
The quest was great but I really wanted there to be more to what the nature of the stalker is. He seems to have abilities more vast than warframes, and no operator. If he’s a warframe he has way more control than umbra. Jade, WF babies and plenty of things in this quest were mind blowing but stalker = WF was a let down….. unless there’s more
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I agree, but... I will take what we got. There's still a lot to go through, especially with what's being presented in belly of the beast
@RetroAmateur1989
Күн бұрын
We know for a fact that Sorren/Stalker was present at the ceremony to honor the tenno for their victory against the sentients. He knew what was going to happen, but since he could not speak(at least not normally) he couldn't warn the orokin, try as he may. He tried to fight the tenno, and they would've killed him too, but Jade saved him. I've said this before, but i don't think Sorren was punished into Warframehood. And I don't think he was happy for braking the law of those he was loyal to. His tone about the lords show a loyal and a by-the-book man.
@thimovijfschaft3271
Күн бұрын
I think the New War has caused cracks in the power structures of the Corpus and the Grineer. At first we saw Teeso and Kahl going against their golden leaders. Then we heard about Corpus and Grineer willingly joining Narmer after its fall. Then Kahl's story line continues with more Grineer joining him in being free from lords and masters. And now we have Captain Xeto and the Corpus under her that decided to flush their new career oppertunities down the drain because they weren't willing to do something evil. And I think thei trend is gonna comtinue. Leading up to the New War, it was logical that people began to question us. We slaughter, loot, drain resources, create chaos and -from a propaganda pov- kill jobs. But as soon as we were eliminated by Ballas, the system was quickly taken over by invaders who brainwashed and oppressed people even more. They presented themselves as saviors from us. People believed that only they truly cared about them while their previous leaders did not. But as soon as their new leader was more than ready to kill them all for his own ego, we were the only ones capable of stopping them and we did. We could've taken power for ourselves but we didn't... I can imagine that this might cause people to think about us. Just like Hunhow did... Just like Stalker did... And perhapse think more about their leaders. Although... Narmer continues to he threat because it establishes itself as a religion, with Pazuul promising an afterlife and life in paradise in Tau as the promised land to those worthy of it. At first you might think it's weird that Narmer is still around if you aren't aware of people willing joining it. And if you are, you might think it's weird that they do. But is it really? You have seen loads of wars and battles over the worlds you live on, you almost faced extinction multiple times, your resources are running out, climates become hostile, everyone wants to control you. If your future sounds hopeless, and the last ones that tried to control you are terraforming machines, that made conditions slightly better on Earth and Venus. And they offer you a way out. They offer you a new beginning far from the hellscape you're used to.
@3thirtyDr3amz
Күн бұрын
Jade evidently is turned into the Executioner frame well before the fall and the night of the Naga drums though. Stalker in his codex... wouldn't seem to be a frame. Frames went rogue and were decommissioned until the Tenno were used as operators. It seems farfetched the Seven would keep a personal guardian out of a Warframe who could hypothetically go mad (or rebel) at any given point. Which only leaves him to become a frame after. Which is really the big gap in the quest, it doesn't address his transformation into a frame. The obvious answer would be that Ballas likely "deputized" him after Natah failed to kill the Tenno to finish the job. Sorren would be loyal to the Last surviving Executor, and Ballas would have good use for a single minded revenge plan. But that in itself is simply speculation of convenience.
@Scyclo
Күн бұрын
I and i'm pretty sure a majority of the fanbase chose Sirius, to honor jade's memory and sacrifice to protect her child. also i would do anything to prevent stalker from falling down a dark path again, so that he could pursue protecting his child over hunting tenno, even if he does still invade. Fun fact if stalker invades and someone is jade hs says never and immediately despawns leaving his drops
@monarchking313
22 сағат бұрын
Can't wait to remember the orokin fall
@Tacgonmaner
Күн бұрын
the baby is us the tenno, the paradox, past, current, future all happen at the same time
@DyingDarkStar
Күн бұрын
I picked Sirius because I'd like to imagine that he'd pick that to honor jades memory.
@itsQueenPurple
Күн бұрын
Oh damn the part "The reason" has give me goosebumbs again and some tears the quest is so touching and sad I loved it so much. I relate to loss sadly so much means every Quest about it hits double but I somehow love good and sad storytelling emotions are important ngl.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
It was another beautiful quest. DE really knows how to get you in the feels, there's no two ways around it.
@jamescox7989
16 сағат бұрын
Interesting how Albrecht call the man in the wall “the adversary.” Satan in ancient greek translates to adversary so that might be a reason that Ballas and the helminth calls the operator a devil. Odd thing to notice, but I feel like it adds a deeper layer to The Man in the Wall.
@Kilesfactor
21 сағат бұрын
This quest just made me think that we don't hate Ballas enough lol
@Signupking
Күн бұрын
i think making a child was the reason why these two were punished in the first place. orokin being immortal beings would likely not allow offspring in their rows including lower members of their community.
@hyelisk408
Күн бұрын
When Hunhow mentions the warframe he gave "the insult of a rescue." Isn't he talking about Yareli and her deluxe?
@WFyinxia
Күн бұрын
Finally, the two stars in the sky are Sirius ,and Rigel in the constellation Orion
@Signupking
Күн бұрын
one thing i cant understand is how stalker wants vengence for the orokin when the orokins "killed" his wife and unborn child
@rodrigopinto9804
Күн бұрын
Well if Wally wants uniqueness, Sirius/Orion is quite literally the most unique being perhaps in the universe. Literally "life never before seen" as it says when you finish the Quest. It's difficult to speculate on Sirius/Orion at the time because, well, we've never seen anything quite like him. I doubt anyone knew it was even possible. Ballas likely thought that turning Jade and Sorren into Warframes, turning a mother, a guardian Angel into an Angel of Death, would be a fitting poetic end as the Orokin often do. That said, I don't think the Jade Light was "spawned" from Jade or had any influence from her. I think that Jade was turned into a Warframe that uses the Jade Light as a Weapon as stark contrast to her role as a protector, as a mother, thus transforming a guardian angel into an angel of death and devastation. As for Xeto, I never thought I would see the day where I saw a Corpus Captain show any sort of emotion. Between her and Kahl, the Factions are gaining more and more heart. Hopefully we see more of her. When it comes to Parvos, he is absolutely going to scour the system to find the Stalker. I think it's only a matter of time until he does. As for Hunhow, I really want to see more from him. He has been one of my favorite characters and is only second to Wally as my favorite antagonist of Warframe. Would be nice to see him and the Lotus actually reunite and talk after so long being enemies. As for the video, do you really need me to say you cooked again?
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Hey thank you but... let's be real, it's DE that done the cookin, I merely described the dish... and it tasted as good as looked, I must say!!!
@tiagocf1208
Күн бұрын
I choose Sirius, a guiding light, I think it will end up better for us than naming it after a legendary hunter. The stalkers already hunt us, the origin system don't need another acolyte to do the same. Rather the stalker needs a light to guide him out of his hate
@XristoferLee
Күн бұрын
Sirius because with how its green like Jade should mean it inherited Jade's grace
@Mr.Pidgeon
Күн бұрын
At least I now know the miinigame was for the baby's heartbeat as I was quite confused
@WFyinxia
Күн бұрын
What Ordis said may suggest that Jade light is taken from the sun. And,Volatile Motes:Highly charged particles of pure energy. The source of the Jade Light.Highly charged particles of pure energy from the solar wind,will produce aurora, and the most common color of aurora is green
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
so she's essentially manipulating stellar energy to both hurt and heal... that's really interesting, thank you for that!
@MegaNozman
Күн бұрын
Is it only me that is worrying about ordis? His increase in outbursts from Ordan Karris can't be a good thing.
@LeftWithDeath88
Күн бұрын
The Uranus jokes haha!
@Vinzenzx
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="271">4:31</a> Good one
@MultiKombo
Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="270">4:30</a> HA. Uranus is deep
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
So deep.
@marty2129
Күн бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE and so enormous.
@allenhughes60
Күн бұрын
Why do you think they only let the operator in this story? I always use drifter.
@roxasoranightcore
Күн бұрын
Idk if others got this but one time the stalker was going to invade me and (with green jade light) said no more… only happened once and not again
@clementfermn6711
Күн бұрын
What i dont understand is why he still hunts us. I mean doesn't he have parenting duties?
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
He hasn't given up his grudge yet. It took everything to ask us for help and that's only because we were the ONLY one's who could help. Give it time though...
@SteelxWolf
Күн бұрын
Gameplay and Story dont always align for the sake of the game
@permeus2nd
Күн бұрын
Also aren’t they shadows of the stalker as in a memory of him not the real thing? I can’t say I’ve ever looked at the name that appears with the health bar at least none in the last like 10 years it’s just oh the screen is doing that think again one of is getting a visit from the ghost of vengeance past and I’m normally not even in the room when it happens so I don’t even see him not that I can under all the particle effects that are hitting him.
@clementfermn6711
Күн бұрын
@@permeus2nd its him. When you finish the quest his green color stays when he hunts you. Not just the ascend mission but just in general throughout the star chart
@WraithReaper09
Күн бұрын
"In Universe" wise I consider his just keeping us on our toes. Gameplay wise I don't think locking players out of Stalkers loot drops just because they did a quest would have been a wise decision for DE to make.
@marty2129
Күн бұрын
"In the depths of Uranus - and it is deep, make no mistake about that..." "Upon returning to Uranus - in all of its enormity..." "... familiar depths of Uranus." "...leave Uranus in its sheer enormity." Oh god, that's one way to put it... :D And I refuse to believe it wasn't intentional :D
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Whatever do you mean, lol
@TheMeteoDragoon
Күн бұрын
I chose Orion for a couple reason 1) My mind went to Orion Pax initially and said Freedom is the right of all sentient beings and a famed greek hunter amongst the stars.
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
These are great reasons!
@fangslore9988
Күн бұрын
its likely that the child will be a new kind of warframe and its also likely he isn't the last
@cdgonepotatoes4219
Күн бұрын
I really hope we don't get an Emperor Palpatine with Ballas. His dreadful arc ended, let him be no more than a hollow husk to take potshots at in the future if DE really wishes to insert his body in a future gamemode.
@Tak-ten-typek
Күн бұрын
First I wanted to name him Orion, but then I see red, I checked other one and this was green. My first thought was that this was how they wanted to name their kid. I literally sit there for 5 minutes thinking what to choose, after that I choose Syriusz, for Jade
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
I did the same. If I were in the stalker's place, it's what I would have done for her.
@Ashden96
Күн бұрын
I chose Orion, because Sirius is a star in Canis Major, which in turn is the dog of Orion, so I wanted the 'greater' name hehe
@tukib_
Күн бұрын
I think the rhythm at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="930">15:30</a> is likely parallel to contractions rather than a heart beat. The waveform/signal does not look like a qrs complex and the ui does say "push (key)" rather than press. Great analysis anyway!
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
uhh yes. And that's science not me, so...
@tukib_
21 сағат бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE hah well you picked up the symbolism better than I did- passing of life/essence makes a lot of sense. Loving these vids and can't wait for more!
@Eggwynn
Күн бұрын
honestly hunhow might have become my favourite after playing this quest
@TheDsIEGE
Күн бұрын
Right? I can't say this enough another commenter coined it but... he's the tenno's grandfather, that's the reality. now, he's beginning to act like it.
@ThaDonsWill
18 сағат бұрын
Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not pure. Tenno use the keys, but they are mere trespassers. Only I, Vor, know the true power of the Void. I was cut in half, destroyed, but through it's Janus Key, the Void called to me. It brought me here and here I was reborn. We cannot blame these creatures, they are being led by a false prophet, an impostor who knows not the secrets of the Void. Behold the Tenno, come to scavenge and desecrate this sacred realm. My brothers, did I not tell of this day? Did I not prophesize this moment? Now, I will stop them. Now I am changed, reborn through the energy of the Janus Key. Forever bound to the Void. Let it be known, if the Tenno want true salvation, they will lay down their arms, and wait for the baptism of my Janus key. It is time. I will teach these trespassers the redemptive power of my Janus key. They will learn it's simple truth. The Tenno are lost, and they will resist. But I, Vor, will cleanse this place of their impurity. 🤣
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