I'm so confused about Blackstar. Like he literally murdered Mistystar's brother and now they're both leaders just chilling together?
@XxEmpty_EscapexX693
3 жыл бұрын
IKR like wtf is happening.
@TipOfTheSauce
3 жыл бұрын
In Mistystar’s Omen that is actually something that comes up a few times. She always sends other cats in her place when she needs to communicate with him.
@feathertail8996
3 жыл бұрын
"You remember you slaughterd my bro in cold-blood infront of me?" "Yeah. Good times."
@goodday2826
3 жыл бұрын
what? don't you remember? just before the eclipse mistystar let her anger at blackstar loose and began beating him up, never mess with a cat who can swim
@fabplays6559
2 жыл бұрын
@@feathertail8996 It wasn't in front of her. Mistystar found out that Stonefur died through Firestar who told her after she was freed.
@JRMax-ss6ob
3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't think Blackfoot's Reckoning was intended to be a redemption arc so much as it was an explanation as to why Starclan went ahead and gave him his lives despite what he'd done. His "redemption arc", as it were, was the implication that throughout the main series he would prove to be a more caring and dependable leader than his predecessors. (Which to be fair isn't a high bar at all.) I don't think he ever got proper attention, and that's why the redemption feels so lazy and hamstrung, but looking back at the series you can tell that while he's nowhere near Good -- he's still stubborn, antagonistic, and prideful -- he's not as bad as he was when he played henchman to the other leaders. There are little notes of growth you can pick out in the series. Small actions like offering to guide Longtail in the New Prophecy and accepting the help of kittypets and other clan cats while his clan is recovering from losing the camp, and actually being grateful and relieved that Thunderclan offered them a place to stay. In Power of Three, despite disliking Firestar and continuing to be rather antagonistic with him/Thunderclan, he's still comfortable enough to confide in Firestar about he felt they never should have left the forest, and later even agrees to help Thunderclan when Windclan attacks. After Tawypelt and her kits leave he asks Littlecloud to go and bring them back once his faith is restored. In OotS, he doesn't immediately heed Flametails warning to "stand alone" and agrees with Littlecloud that they shouldn't ignore another clan in need. He invites other clan cats into camp for freshkill when they come back from the beaver incident, even insists on it. When Dawnpelt accuses Jayfeather of murder, Blackstar, while he doesn't refute her, also doesn't jump to his paws and demand Jayfeather be removed from his station or threaten Thunderclan. During the final battle he tells Lionblaze that it was "an honor" to fight with him, and tells him to go and help his own clan. And after that, he's the one who starts naming the fallen at each gathering not just of his clan, but all clans, and is said that he helped Bramblestar toward the beginning of his leadership. He still fought and growled and antagonized and refused aid, he still held Ivypaw as a bargaining chip for herbs, he still failed to admit fault or give thanks, he even loses his faith and nearly lets Shadowclan fall apart because he was and always has been rather easily manipulated. It's not just something that comes up in Reckoning; Brokenstar and Tigerstar both abused Blackfoot's sense of loyalty to get him to follow their leads, Tigerstar through charisma, Brokenstar likely through the fact Blackstar was the one who tried to befriend him since Brokenstar was a kit, as we learned in Reckoning. And later, Sol takes advantage of Blackstar's depression and faltering faith to do much the same. Even Cinderpelt had a moment of twisting things in such a way to get Blackstar to accept travelling herbs for the journey to their new home, knowing he was too prideful to accept them outright. His leadership is filled with ups and downs, but a lot of those "ups" wouldn't have happened if he were the same cat he was as deputy, and a lot of those "downs" wouldn't be there if his change had been sudden and miraculous, and there IS that minuscule, gradual growth that leads up to him being a confused, but mournful old man that he was at the end of his life. There's a reason why he was distrusted by the other clans throughout his leadership, but also reasons why they could go to him when they needed aid. I doubt ANY of it was intentional -- that's giving the Erins a bit TOO much credit -- but it is there if only by accident. Blackfoot's Reckoning, though I did enjoy it for what it was, was simply an unnecessary novella to sate those who wondered why Blackstar became leader at all. This is all VERY subjective, ofc, and I don't expect everyone to agree, but Blackstar (and Littlecloud) are my two favorite characters in the series. Blackstar's redemption -- the one I claim is actually in the series, not Reckoning -- is something I've thought a lot about. It was never a perfect redemption because Blackstar simply wasn't ever the focus, just the background, and he was never perfectly good, but nor is his redemption totally hamfisted in there with an instant change of heart and little conflict. NOTE: It's been YEARSS since I read any of the books, so if I got some things wrong my apologies
@TheRunningLeopard
3 жыл бұрын
This comment is beautiful, Blackstar is in my top favorite cats and this analysis is solid.
@legrandliseurtri7495
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful comment. Btw, I'm trying to remember a moment at a gathering where, I think it was Onestar, was exchanging passive aggressive comments with Firestar, and Blackstar just sits there, looking confused as to why they are arguing with each other. It was a pretty funny moment.
@susiepilled
2 жыл бұрын
this is a FANTASTIC comment.
@valtersplume3726
Жыл бұрын
Blackstar is the classical antihero.
@darkninjafirefox
3 жыл бұрын
I liked Blackfoot's Reckoning less for Blackstar's character arc and more for how it showed Brokentail being a creepy kitty sociopath even as a kid
@XxEmpty_EscapexX693
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@akkitty3405
3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@andywright9195
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Icannothink
2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😹😹
@Igottagowalkmyfish
Жыл бұрын
For me, Blackstars/foots Reckoning just confirmed all my thought about him. Nothing changed. Just something to distract myself with
@projesusantisatan3583
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel like they did a good job of portraying leopard‘s character in her super addition. I also think it is the best super edition written in recent years pacing wise that is. And I definitely feel like her character was pretty in line of what was shown in the first Arkin second Ark. Now her redemption arc I thought was very poor. Because it was only her going you know what I did bad decisions but I’m gonna automatically change it. There is no struggle between her in morality and her morals
@projesusantisatan3583
3 жыл бұрын
@Miss. Quokka that’s unique
@projesusantisatan3583
3 жыл бұрын
@Miss. Quokka understandable. My favorite river clan cat is probably river star also does anyone buddy remember green flower
@zanecruse5132
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the book shouldn’t of been so rushed with the first two chapters :/ I just wish it was longer.
@zanecruse5132
3 жыл бұрын
@Miss. Quokka mhmm
@projesusantisatan3583
3 жыл бұрын
I’m happy they didn’t keep leopard as a kit for very long. Because in the other super additions like tall stars revenge and blue stars prophecy Especially Tolstoy’s revenge they were kids for like 15% in the book. And then apprentices for like Half of the book. And then the last half was done becoming warriors. And then at the very end of the book it was them getting their nine lives in becoming leaders and we didn’t get to see any of the decisions they make as leaders in their superadditions. But I see why you would say it went by too fast
@startheangel9760
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the Blackstar one because he felt legitimate guilt and remorse when his kill victims gave him lives plus he was willing to fight along side Thunderclan when Wind and River clan attacked in Eclipse.
@insectcat7057
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he felt remorse, and Akira started that pretty clearly. The issue with it was not him feeling guilt in the end, it was the path to it that sucked.
@rowanheart8122
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty interesting that Leopardstar didn't have a real redemption arc, also I think people backpedaled around Leopardstar because she was coddled as a kit, her father was a respected warrior and an even more respected medicine cat, and then she was deputy and leader. I haven't read Leopardstar's Honor, but I hope to in the future. And yeah, I agree, Blackstar's Reckoning was pretty lazy writing. They should have made it a whole super edition about his redemption and only made the flashback thing part of it. I want to see how Blackstar would readjust to ShadowClan after his undying loyalty to Tigerstar and Brokenstar. I want to see some of his clanmates try to reject him as leader, and have Tawnypaw consider going back to ThunderClan after Blackstar does something stupid like let a former BloodClan cat into his clan
@user-qt4qj1rx4j
3 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS The main thing that I was excited for in Leopardstar’s honor was to see why she joined TigerClan. I kinda see what she did, but the book was written bad. They glossed over most of her life as an apprentice, warrior, and leader. The book focused mainly on her life as deputy. Which I think was good, but I would like to see her POV after the blood clan battle. A lot of stuff they included in the book during her deputyship was unnecessary. Most of the book should’ve been focused on her leadership. The ending felt kind of rushed, all the things I wanted to hear about were pushed to the end. Overall, I think it was a really good book. I’m just a little disappointed how they didn’t portray what I wanted to hear….
@crisadence3707
3 жыл бұрын
Needletail’s character arc is amazing
@sandywolfr26
3 жыл бұрын
Now if only they didn’t hide why she was the way she was in a bonus chapter for some books and not all!
@legrandliseurtri7495
2 жыл бұрын
It gets unfair criticism for sure.
@mikiarkensaw
3 жыл бұрын
I liked Leopardstar's honor but what the heck happened during editing? Stormpaw and Featherpaw's apprentice ceremony is first and in the next chapter Tigerstar is asking Leopardstar is she going to make Stonefur and Mistyfoot as StormKIT and FeatherKIT's mentors?!
@lj2659
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I totally agree. I noticed that was like wtf
@ThatArtisticBookwormYT
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that! Leopardstar was also called her leader name at least twice before becoming leader. Not to mention the allegiances mess-
@sandywolfr26
3 жыл бұрын
I actually liked blackstar redemption arc. As he was just following his leader and he even pointed out why he never questioned anything. Love how it was cats he killed who gave him nine lives too. And why it seem he changed so drastically. Old shadowclan would never help out thunderclan during the eclipse battle. Also seemed he had a lot of guilt. Why sol was able to manipulate him. Like he questioned starclan decisions too. Even went back to Blackfoot since he felt he never deserved to be leader after everything he done. That how I saw that whole moment in the books. As for leopardstar, she should never been leader.
@True2ChainzLilWayne
3 жыл бұрын
He also felt bad when Brokenstar banished Yellowfang from shadowclan if I remember right
@sandywolfr26
3 жыл бұрын
@@True2ChainzLilWayne exactly!
@sweetwolfsteve5583
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't like leopardfur/leopardstars redemption arc imo leopardstars honor was just alot of filler it felt like we were waiting on crookedstar to die I never really liked leopardstar shes one of my least favorite cat
@luxarcanae
3 жыл бұрын
Instead of going for redemtion for Leopardstar, litterally one sentance would have been enough on her death bed: "I am afraid of star clan. What will (insert favourite river clan cat here) say?"
@sm0lcatfish
3 жыл бұрын
shadow in riverclan leopardstar redemption > leopardstar’s honor leopardstar redemption
@pixie8436
3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty iffy about Leopardstar, because first; she had NO resentment towards Skyheart when she tried to drown her as kits. Second; her first deputy: Stonefur was LITERALLY Mistyfoot’s brother, and then when Tigerclan is driven out from existence she makes Mistyfoot, her former deputy’s sister deputy. And then she was overall a bad leader and Crookedstar should not have made her deputy in my opinion
@FantasticFawnleap
2 жыл бұрын
Crookedstar should of chose someone else!
@goodday2826
3 жыл бұрын
leopardstar's redemption ark is basically when your sibling or friend or cousin says they will do something but 9 months later the still wont and dont
@NightTheKittenn
3 жыл бұрын
i've always hated leopardstar and her super edition is essentially validation for me with every turn of the page. im having a blast watching her prove me right again and again that she was a terrible cat.
@flamindorito
3 жыл бұрын
she seems a little narcissistic tbh
@BG_NC
3 жыл бұрын
I don't like that they tried giving Leopardstar a redemption arc in this. We got as close as we needed to one in previous books, especially Mistystar's Omen. She was always a proud and ambitious leader who made selfish decisions. She wanted Riverclan and herself to appear strong to the other clans. Illness tempered her some, and she truly seemed to regret how she treated Mistystar and the rest of her clan on her deathbed. To give her a redemption arc while she is still shown to be the same prideful and selfish leader for many more moons in other books is ridiculous.
@yawninglion1677
2 жыл бұрын
Blackstar really should've been portrayed as someone molded and conditioned by Brokenstar into being his deputy... his IDEAL deputy, who acts as his secret police brute without ever questioning orders. It would've explained a lot about him without making him too unsympathetic.
@queenofdogs01
3 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta till Blackstar says he's sowwy
@horizontiger7240
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with all you said, but my opinion on Clear Sky is very different. I feel like he went from being a villain to being a cat that gets on my nerves WAY to much. But opinions are different and that's a good thing
@sweetwolfsteve5583
3 жыл бұрын
Why is blackstar in starclan he killed two innocent cats and then a traitor rosetail stonefur and redwillow who was the traitor
@MaddoxEzman
3 жыл бұрын
RedWillow deserved it though. He tried to kill his clan mates. Blackstar did the right thing there.
@sweetwolfsteve5583
3 жыл бұрын
@@MaddoxEzman redwillow yes he did deserve it but stonefur and rosetail didn't they did nothing wrong blackstar was wrong when he killed rosetail and stonefur
@MaddoxEzman
3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetwolfsteve5583 Oh believe me Rosetail and Stonefur’s deaths are not justifiable at all! I do believe RedWillow shouldn’t be counted against Blackstar though. Blackstar is a bad cat. But I love him for that, I have mixed feelings on whether he should be in Starclan or dark forest.
@sweetwolfsteve5583
3 жыл бұрын
@@MaddoxEzman yeah redwillow shouldn't be counted imo opinion he should have ended up in the dark forest but I think then only reason he ended up in starclan was bc when he became leader he redeemed himself sorta
@projesusantisatan3583
3 жыл бұрын
OK now for black stars redemption arc. I thought it was very terrible not well done. And he changed at a drop of a freaking hat he went tiger star is dead looks like I got to be a hero now and the whole novella is stupid. I didn’t like it at all and having characters give him nine lives like a shadow star really really screws up character arcs that were previously sent in stone. Like shadow star was a good cat and had a good character development and down the clans. And I feel like that was thrown away in black stars novella. Same thing with Riverstar giving leopard her nine lives
@lexiyaanimates7607
3 жыл бұрын
6:54 But that's something that's supposed to be advice for when you fail your math test. Not when you brutally murdered someone and several cats dies because of you! Me: *Cries in failing math several times*
@groudonvert7286
3 жыл бұрын
That's why I wanted to read a story about her redemption more than the first arc from her POV.
@Franciskitty
2 жыл бұрын
Blackstar should have got a redemption arc! BUT I would have liked to see him physically haunted by the ghost of stonefur and he keeps trying to brush him off as new stuff goes wrong with his clan he has to learn how to lead calmly ans kindly and his harsh cold angry nature gets in the way. Tension keeps building with little things and somehow he looses a life when he is met with stonefur showing him the awful things that will happen to him and his clan if he doesn't change. When he awakes he tries harder at first to get stonefurs ghost to leave him alone but slowly he starts to feel good about helping his clan and takes pride in doing good. He looses another life and when he dose he is presented with the slaughter of stonefur and the murders tigerclaw manipulated him into doing. He breaks down and cries seeing first hand what he's done... he apologizes to stonefur and tells him he wants to change and wile stonefur doesn't forgive him he nods showing his appreciation for the effort. (Sol had been introduced in this book with him sometime causing tension in the clan) Black star kicks sol out and stands before his clan ready to make shadowclan the clan it once was. THE END
@appleshade578
3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I love Blackstar. He's my favorite warrior's character. However, Blackfoot's Reckoning was poorly written. He does feel bad for what he did, but the way he expressed it was not written well. It was strange the way they wrote it. And Leopardstar. Oh God, how I hate Leopardstar. She's been a selfish brat since a kit and her awful super edition proved it too. To be honest, I think Blackstar needed that super edition more than her.
@baasparkopenings851
3 жыл бұрын
So I don't usually read warrior cats books but I got a totally different interpretation reading Blackfoot's Reckoning, personally. I felt like they were saying he needs to be a good leader to atone for his crimes instead of moping about the past or becoming evil like the past. Remember the past without feeling sorry for himself. I actually liked the book. It might be a little less good with the context of Blackstar's later actions but frankly Blackstar never reached the same evils as Blackfoot did imo. But Warrior Cats is always written like trash lmao so its like arguing if a piece of trash is trash or garbage really.
@deerlyqueery
3 жыл бұрын
I'm writing a fanfic and giving Scourge a redemption arc bc dammit I love Tiny and he deserved to be happy 😤
@DarkQuilava13
3 жыл бұрын
I havent read it yet- leapoardstar's honor- however I feel like Blackstar could of made better use of a super edition frankly, and could of been redeemed if they really had the idea that he was swayed and manipulated and gullible and was also later manipulated by sol if they tried doing that to make him redeemable :/ overall though I do agree with akira i just think that blackstar has more potential out of teh two if that was the eren's ideas but they went with the vote still and wouldnt have enough room for that.
@thatmomentwhen345
3 жыл бұрын
Commenting before I watched the video, just want to share my thoughts! I really liked Blackstar’s Reckoning. I’ve always liked Blackstar as a character, not entirely sure why. But the entire novella being his nine lives ceremony was really cool to me and I even got emotional a couple of times. His guilt feels incredibly genuine. That doesn’t forgive him of his crimes but it counts for something. Idk maybe I’m biased Leopardstar’s Honor did nothing for her character (edit: let me rephrase, it did something. Just built on the jerk that she is and then sloppily tried to redeem her). As cool as she looks, I never liked her, and this book just reiterated what we already knew. Leopardstar is a hypocrite and a fool. She is and always has been, greedy, stubborn, and naive, and it got so many cats killed so unnecessarily. Her guilt feels so superficial, because she had moments of doubt she could have acted on. She had nine lives that she could’ve given for some of those clanmates if it meant protecting the cats she loved, but she didn’t. She stood there and watched. The difference is that Leopardstar, for the most part, knew what she was doing was wrong, or more or less questioned Tigerstar’s motives from time to time. But she did _nothing_ until it was too late. Blackfoot believed Tigerstar’s every word, and that was his mistake. They both thought what they were doing was right. But Leopardstar had moments of doubt that could have prevented so many deaths. Just when you think she learned her lesson, she just gets someone else killed for the same reasons. At least Blackstar had an agency. Rant over, gonna watch video now :D maybe I’ll add to this afterwards. Edit: okay, sure, Blackstar’s novella was lazy. But I wouldn’t call Blackstar a villain, at least anymore.
@finnsnow2495
3 жыл бұрын
I mean Lepordstar is just a horrible person ahe doesn't have redemption arc because she never really got redeemed. I'm bias because I've never liked her ever. But Lepordstar's honour showed me the exact cat I expected. There were never consequenses for her actions and she never grew from them. The fact Mistyfoot went back to Riverclan always bewildered me and only in Feathertail's comic did we see a cat that actually held her to her actions for a while. I don't understand how Lepordstar is viewed as a good leader or the best leader that's ridiclous. Lepordstar's honour did as I thought and showed her true colors. Horrible cat and leader just as I always thought. Also the fact she called herself a victum made me laugh. Truly the height of her selfishness
@juliedillion3942
2 жыл бұрын
The fact both are leaders.... also in Power of Three, didn't Blackstar and SC let themselves give up on Starclan to Sol? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
@keyravens
3 жыл бұрын
I see Blackfoot's Reckoning less as a self-contained redemption arc, but instead as the moment Blackstar dedicated himself to being better, and came to feel the full force of his past crimes. His atoment is his long, selfless serving of his clan, building it back up from the ruins he helped create. There doesn't need to some big sacrifice moment for a redemption arc to work.
@jakupharrison8051
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve not read most of warrior cats. I’m somewhere in the power of three. But if you asked me who I hate most out of these two it’s definitely Leopardstar by a mile. And it all has to do with Stonefur’s death. Blackstar killed him but he was obeying orders from a superior. Leopardstar was supposed to be an equal co leader in tiger clan but let HER deputy be killed. I quite like Blackstar (bearing in mind I haven’t read the novela) cause I’m alright with partial redemptions. Actually I like them where a character gets better in an aspect or towards a specific group yet retains previous traits. Shadow clan isn’t thunder clan blackstar isn’t supposed to be some bastion of diplomacy and honour like firestar or tallstar (who definitely went easier on and was more diplomatic with thunder clan because fire heart was in it so how he’d react otherwise could be questioned) or pre-leadership onestar.
@tsundasta6389
3 жыл бұрын
Blackstar literally committed hate crimes against mixed race cats and it was never acknowledged again 💀
@TheBrightestGuardian
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing advice, for I probably failed my math test today.
@graphitetailgrace3870
3 жыл бұрын
At least they got redemption arcs unlike...*certain* cats. *COUGHCOUGHFURZEPELTCOUGHCOUGH*
@almaszericebean1401
3 жыл бұрын
Furzepelt as in the wind/riverclan cat who trained in the dark forest?
@graphitetailgrace3870
3 жыл бұрын
@@almaszericebean1401 Yes. Also the Furzepelt who never showed any decent growth and made fun of ThunderClan for mourning Firestar's death. Which, y'know, she is indirectly responsible for because she helped the Dark Forest get that strong.
@anoushkashenoy692
3 жыл бұрын
I agree so much with Blackstar. He may feel guilty and remorse, but he doesn’t actually ever apologize to his victims or have a real change. People say he was able to point out his faults - and that’s true - but that is NOT a redemption arc on its own. They have to make up for their mistakes too.
@NapaCat
3 жыл бұрын
I think Blackstar's Reckoning was a modified scene from his never-made super edition. It felt like... filler. A filler novella. I like it, but... it's fillery
@randomspider7368
3 жыл бұрын
*laughs in reading Leopard'Stars honor but never finished it yet*
@the_gaming_hyena24
3 жыл бұрын
I need this leaopardstar art…missy Dakota did an amazing job as always
@cookiethecookiee6977
Жыл бұрын
I love LeopardStar her attitude and the way she acts makes it interesting to read as a villain
@TheBabyInYellow-xo6fp
8 ай бұрын
I don’t know why but after reading Leopardstar’s honor I kind of disliked her more because I feel like seeing what her motives were only further condemned her. They made no sense and she was waaay too full of herself throughout the entire book. And she may have slightly changed since the first arc but that’s because Riverclan just isn’t relevant past the first arc.
@belughlegosi
Жыл бұрын
I loved Needletail’s, if you can call that redemption. I wish she could’ve lived so we could see her actually get better and have to regain her clanmates’ trust.
@LousoMiso27
3 жыл бұрын
I disliked Leopardstar instantly when she allianced with Tigerstar. I haven't seen Leopardstar's Honor yet and I hope I get to soon, even though I don't like Leopardstar but why not? This contained spoilers but i don't care much tbh, I just wanted to hear opinions about redemption arcs about villians. (I forgot about Blackstar)
@mistystars5980
3 жыл бұрын
It’s annoying how lazily and dryly the Erin’s write most of the time. Not to mention their constant lack in consistency. Don’t get me wrong, writing a book is not easy, especially with a team of many people. But maybe if they checked over it and communicated with eachother more these things would be less frequent. It’s just sad at this point.
@iidrbubbles
3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Akira, they're always so entertaining :)
@pikathemimikyu6655
3 жыл бұрын
I read Crowfeather's Trial last month, and I know this is strange to most people but Breezepelt is one of my favorite characters now. I just think he's really adorable, even when be was doing bad things. I don't know why, I really like his redemption. I used to really dislike Heathertail, too, now I kinda like her.
@tigerpeltofwindclan8431
3 жыл бұрын
I Love Blackstar's Redemption Arc Thank You Very Much 😌
@mangle18423
3 жыл бұрын
blackstar had a good redemption imo, and ive always sorted seen him as a comfort character
@supersketchy3824
3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing best redemption arcs next?
@ThatArtisticBookwormYT
3 жыл бұрын
Right before I read Leopardstar's Honor I read Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, which is The Hunger Games prequel, and in that they took the antagonist of the original trilogy, but rather than giving him a redemption arc and making us feel sorry for him, they made us like the character and then slowly watch as he falls down a dark, evil path. This is what I was expecting from Leopardstar's Honor, but we didn't get it. And like Leopardstar stayed selfish until her death... in The Fourth Apprentice, a book before she died, she was trying to insist that RiverClan owned the whole lake. There's also the whole thing in A Shadow in RiverClan. So why are they all of a sudden trying to give her a previously nonexistent redemption arc halfway through her life? Sure, at the end of The Prophecies Begin she did experience what you would call a half redemption arc, where she did realize some of her actions were wrong and she did improve, but she didn't completely improve to being the best leader her Clan could have after that. In the main series she still experiences flaws after that. But to be honest? I love Leopardstar like a million times more than leaders like Firestar, Tallstar, Sunstar, etc. Leaders who are super good during their leadership are super boring. I like the leaders with complex backstories. In reality, it's super hard to lead a group and so leaders are going to be faced with stressful situations that cause them to accidently make mistakes. We didn't see this with say, Firestar, and I found him extremely boring after he became leader. Leopardstar though? She was fascinating! Blackstar is a whole different story though... he was always boring. Always will be. The fact that his Novella was super boring just proves how boring he is and that there is nothing anyone can do to change that. Perhaps if a Super Edition was written on him to in-depth develop his character, but since he has a Novella now we know that will never happen. So we're going to have to live with a boring Blackstar.
@clobertina8176
Жыл бұрын
This is my headcanon- It would have been cool if Blackstar did feel huge remorse but doesn't show it due to being seen as a "weak" cat or leader both by others and by himself. As he continues being clan leader, he grows to regret his actions more and more, starting to question why he's even leader and if StarClan made mistake, becoming more aggressive due to it, taking it out on others... explaining why he lost faith in StarClan so easily in the power of 3 arc, and why he's such a jerk
@AudreyArnett-si3ss
Жыл бұрын
Zuko from Avatar: The Last Airbender is a great example of a great redemption arc. His arc is just great.
@lunerwerewolf
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like both of these could have been done better, particularly if it had explored there horror at what they had been involved in. If leopardstar and Blackshear had seen what they'd become and worked from there. These are just lazy and rushed
@apawture
3 жыл бұрын
to be fair on leopardstars part, yeah she was really reckless as a young cat, but the tigerstar stuff? she was outright being manipulated, and i know that doesnt excuse what she allowed to happen, but like. its hard to stand up to abusers. tigerstar didnt really DO anything to her, but he didnt need to, to keep her agreeing with what he was saying. she ended up in too deep and afraid for her own life
@BreathingGachaBrit
3 жыл бұрын
Question, Do you use an anatomy? If so can you do a video or unlisted video to give me a link?, I need help with drawing cats because I would like to be doing drawings instead of gacha content or both, Am not sure, But can you?
@shadowpheinix6489
3 жыл бұрын
It threw me off when there wasn’t an intro in the beginning
@robynluffman6430
2 жыл бұрын
I would like Darkstripe's perspective in a similar way to tigerstar's fury or Mapleshade's vengeance, no redemption, just the progression of his evil
@Nacht_himmel
4 ай бұрын
You are so right. But for some reason loads of people actually sympathise with Blackstar.
@deew366
27 күн бұрын
ima be honest here, leopardstar was a bad leader who gave up custody of her clan, got stonefur killed, told stonefur to kill 2 innocent kids bc of their parents mistake, was a spoiled and selfish brat for no reason and kicked her dad. leopardstar deserves to be stripped of her nine lifes at the very start.
@carri7405
Жыл бұрын
while we're on the topic of Leopardstar, did you know that the ultimate edition suggested she had a crush on Tigerstar? ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. cuz their kits woulda been half-clan and they both hate half-clans.
@rot0s
2 жыл бұрын
I think leopardstar’s would be handled better is mistyfoot just started going off on her giving her a reality check breaking her out of the mindset that good intentions is all that matters, and that cats were still put in danger and actions have consequences. Or anything of sort of like this a cat breaking her out of delusion.
@tricksfollies9549
2 жыл бұрын
I really liked to Blackstar too.
@entitledbobcat
3 жыл бұрын
Blackstar’s character redemption arc was great and you can’t change my mind. Edit: he deserves a super edition though. Not a novella. The novella was crazy powerful in my eyes however
@DoctorWhoXIII
3 жыл бұрын
Blackstar is my favorit character and this make me really sad, i was hopping for a good book for him, i waited for so many years
@indigogogoThatfloof
3 жыл бұрын
I really liked breezepelts character but then he just woke up and was like I’m good now and now i don’t like him
@sleepyhalo1256
3 жыл бұрын
This is something stupid i thought of lionflame looks kinda like leafpool hollyleaf looks like crowfeather but jayfeather don't look like them but he looks like ashfar and leafpool was sad when he died for no reason
@Ladynoir-j8d
8 ай бұрын
Why does everyone hate on Leopardstar
@anklozilla
9 ай бұрын
BlackStar is my favorite character. But he has a terrible redemption arc! I’m happy he’s good but they should have made it better on why he’s good. This is why I wish he won the Poll with OneStar. I also wish that maybe at a gathering he apologized to MistyFoot. ( I head cannon he did ) and before TallStar died he apologized for the windclan raids. Also something that annoys me is how easily FireStar forgives leopardstar, She did terrible things and he forgave her! Meanwhile he hates BlackStar for following orders. Also just saying I like LeopardStar ( Her book made me like her ) I like both these characters, why else would BlackStar be my fav? But his redemption arc was to rushed.
@scyntheachannel
2 жыл бұрын
I think Blackfoot didn't need a redemption arc tbh. Half the bad things he did were under orders. His enviorment also played a role in his morals.I think he was a pretty well fleshed out character.
@SonarTheBat
2 жыл бұрын
What about Bluestar?
@Amanecer458
2 жыл бұрын
Now the only moraly gray character that i like Is Rainflower
@mintyleaves-su1bp
3 жыл бұрын
I been wondering how do you know what challenge is next Please let me know
@Ciniriss
3 жыл бұрын
Hello akira!
@Daishi_The_Professional_Fool
3 жыл бұрын
This is great
@Whispdawn
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I agree.
@Dusclops4009
3 жыл бұрын
So which cats have the best redemption arcs?
@elisaabreu6039
3 жыл бұрын
Hollyleaf?
@dawncloudproductions3907
3 жыл бұрын
Clear Sky (ignore Moth Flights vison) Hollyleaf, and Neddletail.
@legrandliseurtri7495
2 жыл бұрын
@@dawncloudproductions3907I haven't read Moth Flight's vision, does he really do something terrible again? Uh. But even besides that, he did an exceptionnal ammount of bad things. Here's a list:kicking out Jagged Peak, disowning Thunder, killing Mist, indirecly causing Bumble's death, letting Tom kidnapp kids, taking Jackdaw's Cry hostage and then not feeding him, attacking Gray Wing at a peace meeting, leading to the first battle, where he personnally murders Rainswept Flowers, letting One Eye and Tom in his clan, letting Sparrow Fur fight One Eye until she almost dies, generally being a shitty leader and person in Forest Divided, assaulting Quick Water for not protecting someone with a loyalty as questionnable as Star Flower...That's a lot to somehow redeem.
@dawncloudproductions3907
2 жыл бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 yeah, but he did kinda redeem himself in the last book of DOTC. They just reset his character for conflict. I love DOTC, but I didn't like that super edition. Hopefully Riverstar's is much better.
@liamramos1285
Жыл бұрын
Leopardstar was my 3rd least favorite character
@Mark_Jonas
3 жыл бұрын
I finished Leapordstars honor then immediately watched this video
@sgarland3037
3 жыл бұрын
Got here 5 hours after it got posted is that late?
@IsadorablesBreyers
3 жыл бұрын
For some reason I love Leopardstar- I don’t think she’s that morally good a cat, but it was…interesting
@tailsakita7381
2 жыл бұрын
I hate Leapordstar. She did not deserve a super edition. That is all.
@TheSkittlesAddict
3 жыл бұрын
isn't it funny how warrior cats fanfic writers are better writers in plot and story than the actual original writers of warrior cats? haha...
@WishyFishiey
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t read a lot of the books buuuuuuut I love the Community
@WishyFishiey
3 жыл бұрын
Update:i started listening to the first audiobook!
@Chris_pupsie
2 жыл бұрын
I really wish that brokenstar/brokentail had a good redemption arc. I know he was an absolutely terrible leader and cat in general, but I wish he had a better chance or second chance that was genuine tbh. This is just my opinion
@jaelyyymar8071
2 жыл бұрын
This is why I don’t like Bluestar’s redemption. It happens all of a sudden, and Bluestar doesn’t even get any lash back for her actions. She tries to start a war? She’s allowed to be a brat right after and have no cat judge her for it. She literally abandons her clan? Someone else runs it so that no other cat knows. She names Brightpaw Lostface and forces her to live through the death of her friend who died trying to impress her? No one says anything. No one. Not even the sister and love interest. You could say “oh, she died for her clan!” but. Then she immediately goes to cat heaven and is remembered as an amazing leader! Not to mention she’s the reason her clan fell apart in the first place! Not Tigerclaw. Bluestar. They were fighting amongst themselves and weak because of BLUESTAR. She did the least to try and do the bare minimum in the literal last minutes of her life, while all the cats she left behind have to fix the problems she made. (Also, she was fully aware of the consequences of her actions. She not only talks about them, but she even just brushes them aside. She went from a noble leader to a selfish kitten. Her trauma doesn’t matter in this context, because she’s now leaving behind even worse trauma for everyone who was involved in her leadership- not to mention she’s partly responsible for a good deal of it in the first place)
@furrypaintpoppy7369
3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@pebbleleaf8642
3 жыл бұрын
Gosh I hate leapordfur even more now
@inspiredailen3275
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely despise leopardstar. I never liked her, never will.
@Thesladenator97
3 жыл бұрын
I don't sympathise with either of them. I just think it shows how selfish and messed up both cats are.
@LINTOXO
3 жыл бұрын
first comment lol : anyway this is cool :]
@tabataba9986
3 жыл бұрын
I've never liked blackfoot or blackfoot (reason why I didn't say " *star* " is bc he doesn't deserve that name)
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