MPA + Choke makes me wonder why they never added an unstable Slug OC for the warthog. If they changed the reticle like some other OC's, say to a single dot, it would be easier to aim.
@JagEterCoola
2 жыл бұрын
MPA+Choke basically outranges the M1000 for effective killrange and it's absolutely hilarious.
@heavenlydemon5994
Жыл бұрын
Mpa+Choke with RJ250 and you become the scout.
@slimeinabox
Жыл бұрын
At a certain point it would just be the M1.
@heavenlydemon5994
Жыл бұрын
@@slimeinabox The M1 but on an actual class.
@slimeinabox
Жыл бұрын
@@heavenlydemon5994 lol.
@MinecraftSpongeT
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and comprehensive breakdown. I would love to see a similar video on the stubby, as that gun seems to have some weird interaction with the accuracy adjusting OCs not affecting it as much as they should, and it overall feels very inaccurate when not tap firing.
@LazyMaybe
2 жыл бұрын
I can do, though in that case it would probably be less breakpoints vs grunts and more just examining the spread pattern with various setups.
@blacktigerace6687
2 жыл бұрын
@@LazyMaybe cant wait for stubby entire breakdown that gun is the only wep that i dont even know why its exist, except as turrent EM discharge trigger
@williamcraver3753
2 жыл бұрын
This guy fucking rules. Testing literally everything for us. Top tier
@joshmay2944
2 жыл бұрын
There is something so satisfying about the way this video is edited, with all the grunts getting blasted, and the top tier background music sounding like it’s from some 60s spy thriller or something. You have produced a work of art good sir, and the info is invaluable as well.
@PrivateSparky
2 жыл бұрын
TF2 music.
@joshmay2944
2 жыл бұрын
@@PrivateSparky wow, that’s fitting. I didn’t expect TF2 music to sound like that, now I wanna hear the rest of the soundtrack!
@HoxtonRules
Жыл бұрын
@@joshmay2944 Thank you for your enhusiasm about tf2 music. It seems like that people who answered your question is died inside. 😄
@LemurMaster
2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent breakdown. For the record, MPA + Choke (paired with turret whip and Hyperpropellant PGL) is actually what I take for Elimination missions. Most of the time when I'm hopping from platform to platform in evasion, I am actively trying to keep my distance, and when a dreadnaught turns to chase someone else, I'm often out of range to make great impact, and that long range accuracy really helps (for both weapons). Also helps hitting those hiveguard weakspots and making the Arbalest pay for his trangressions.
@Realgaps
Жыл бұрын
Ah a man of culture
@menotu7997
2 жыл бұрын
Today I learned my favorite build is a meme pick.
@jackeyboy6538
2 жыл бұрын
F
@TheTdw2000
Жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean it's bad. If you like it you like it. Just don't go around saying it's the best build or anything.
@TheTreesmac
2 жыл бұрын
I love running choke on magnetic pellet alignment because its stupid accurate plus that sweet bonus to weakpoint damage really helps me build my other tools for closer defense (Like running turrets with the defender system) And running short range swarm bombs it he Helps round out his kit for a strong generalist build
@MrQuantumInc
2 жыл бұрын
You call it a "meme build" but I LIKE my sniper-shotgun! I can out range the scout!
@LazyMaybe
2 жыл бұрын
I say "meme build" with only love in my heart
@p_serdiuk
2 жыл бұрын
It's like calling the nuke a meme build. It has its place.
@jacobfoxfires9647
2 жыл бұрын
The shotgun is a one in everything with the Engie. Just pure perfection.
@erik.isomer
Ай бұрын
M1000 would like to know your location
@crankyhead1089
2 жыл бұрын
super appreciate the Bill Wurtz reference :D
@UnicornReacharound
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. That was entirely unexpected and completely awesome.
@solarupdraft
2 жыл бұрын
applied science, engineering at its finest
@brandonhowe5017
2 жыл бұрын
6:15 You're right, I don't *have to* live that way. Sometimes I want to though, because Minishells with extra ammo is just fun, and contextually practical. Apart from being the meme on the team, it also effectively costs less to splatter swarmers and naedocytes without wasting precious explosives (especially if you aren't using the GL secondary w/ or w/out RJ250) or diving into the swarm to get eaten alive in a melee. By extension, it also costs less to free a distant ceiling testicle. Missing or making a poor shot in combat will also only cost you a fraction of a potential kill instead of 1 potential kill, and you already have tons more ammo. I know your video is primarily about that steamy and seductive 1-shot potential, but a little more dakka never hurt anyone that wasn't on the business end of the Warthog.
@madmonty4761
2 жыл бұрын
It already has a ton of ammo you dont need 210 shells
@brandonhowe5017
2 жыл бұрын
@@madmonty4761 No, I don't... but as stated, sometimes I *WANT* more dakka.
@madmonty4761
2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhowe5017 its is more dakka it is more effective dakka
@brandonhowe5017
2 жыл бұрын
@@madmonty4761 But dakka en masse though
@madmonty4761
2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhowe5017 its still good dakka but take more dmg for better dakka or you could use the minigun
@solarknight3942
Жыл бұрын
Oh man you know what could be a fun addition? An armored enemy warning, a modifier that makes more armor based enemies appear but less with indestructible armor. It actively makes players afraid of Guards being literally everywhere and would make you wanna change your builds much like how I feel about Mactera Plague. Anyways I should watch the rest of the video now.
@keenshibe7529
2 жыл бұрын
I love your analysis videos, especially with your in game demonstration. Keep them coming!
@cipsahoy9639
2 жыл бұрын
Amazingly detailed breakdown... don’t think the time put in isn’t appreciated!! Thank you
@light819
2 жыл бұрын
i like minishells because i like not having to ration my ammo as much and my turrets can soften them up some for the weaker pellets.
@nitromeano
2 жыл бұрын
very tasteful music choice
@Addsomehappy
2 жыл бұрын
Hey look buddy, I'm an . That means I solve problems, not problems like "" Because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy. I solve practical problems, for instance: how am I going to stop some mean mother Hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous be-hind? The answer, use a , and if that don't work... Use . Take for instance this lil' old number designed by me, built by me, and you best hope... Not pointed at you.
@zao7035
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the result would differ with the moving dispersion. Can any build actually one shot grunts beyond melee range when moving?
@kw0060
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the tests and sharing the results with us. I need to switch up my loadouts immediately!
@redfiveish
2 жыл бұрын
Ya you'll never convince me to not take tungsten coated. It's satisfying seeing naked preatoreans.
@elkpants1280
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I feel like tungsten coated makes sense for the cycle overload anyways due to the inherent decrease in accuracy, effectively peeling the bigger target. I love the AP on CO for dread missions as well
@shock-1048
5 ай бұрын
I just run breachcutter with armor break; all the armor is gone from practically all the nuts in one shot. Combos well with CO
@alexanderharrison7421
2 жыл бұрын
I run Mini shells regularly and I genuinely forget if I run Loaded Shells I should probably check that
@alexanderharrison7421
2 жыл бұрын
Ok turns out I do Good
@shock-1048
5 ай бұрын
@@alexanderharrison7421good for you man
@agentoranj5858
Жыл бұрын
As a Riot Mod enjoyer in Section 8 I have never used anything other than Loaded Shells in T2.
@michaelkolano8686
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man that MPA+choke build looks hilarious! I'm usually just so conflicted about the tier 2 mods, since the extra pellets adds a lot of on paper damage, but there's not a single game I've played, where reducing spread isn't immensely powerful. Perhaps it's out of the scope of this test, but I'm curious when and where the ammo mod is preferable over the other 2? I've always been told that cycle overload absolutely needs it. Or perhaps you want to be an utter maniac and use it with mini shells
@elkpants1280
2 жыл бұрын
With cycle overload you gain faster time to kill at the cost of ammo efficiency at long range. Generally in my experience of maiming haz 5, you will want the extra ammo since it is extremely ammo inefficient to begin with due to the spread. Combine that with maxed rate of fire and the shotgun becomes “lets delete these 6 bugs in front of me in 2 seconds” powerful. If you can be EXTREMELY disciplined by not engaging bugs further than 5m out you might be better off with the extra pellets, but if I HAD to shoot at bugs further than 5m I’d rather have the ammo to sustain that lesser damage. Due to the extremely fast ROF it is also really easy to accidentally overkill bugs, and so having more ammo is simply more forgiving which would directly translate into more sustained DPS.
@calosku
Жыл бұрын
love the music choice
@floppymcflop5427
Жыл бұрын
Nice to know I was going insane for a reason using ammo bags on CO
@Se05239
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing science!
@CapnForever604
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. The Warthog Auto 210 sniper rifle. A traditional mining dwarf firearm.
@madtrips9349
2 жыл бұрын
You really earned a sub hahaha this shit was GREAT
@astusstrix3915
2 жыл бұрын
As an engine main, I run 12321 with MPA all the time!
@ptolemaicfoxxo3032
Жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, no one uses cycle overload to one shot grunts Its for the type of people who are sick of the set up and would rather BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM done their problems
@adthgu6336
2 жыл бұрын
All I could have asked for
@razorvolare
2 жыл бұрын
6:28 Stop it, get some help~
@razorvolare
2 жыл бұрын
3:10 Red Scout!
@ZzVinniezZ
Жыл бұрын
me using MPA + Choke just because i want to pretend im using slug round shotgun
@swift101ninja
Жыл бұрын
Mini shells is pretty good pair with fatboy or spinning death
@saladman1655
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with choke only being viable for memes with MPA, it makes sniping the roof glyphids like spitters and spinners more reliable and ammo efficient. Both the GL and the breach cutter don't do the best at long ranges or with enemies that like to hide on the ceiling due to drop and projectile speed/travel limitation Weaknesses respecrively. Though now that the shard diffractor exists it does make this less viable, I still find it really useful on more open missions or ones that tend to be dense with ceiling enemies.
@jonnyapple1540
2 жыл бұрын
cool beans
@impostrous
Жыл бұрын
3:17 smh no Fairchild Republic A-10 joke lol P.S. you can put your data on a table graph at the end (saying this before i watch your other videos) P.P.S. now we gonna need all of that tested at haz 5
@jeremytan739
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it on haz5?
@user-tt8lv2gd2p
Жыл бұрын
What difficulty scaling that was ?
@Silver-Rexy
2 жыл бұрын
But minishells with T2A has over 200 base ammo :(
@ALUCARD8699
Жыл бұрын
doing god's work here
@mingalo2620
2 жыл бұрын
Okay I might be completely wrong and I problably am, but if I get MPA + Choke + Turret Whip can my shotgun essencially do it ALL? You get close range, longe range, single target, wave clear... I might have just found the perfect pair for my RJ250
@LazyMaybe
2 жыл бұрын
Sort of, but I wouldn't actually recommend choke on MPA. It's way overkill for accuracy, MPA+pellets lets you kill at a good distance and does better against tankier targets.
@Skycrusher
Жыл бұрын
I only recently discovered Engineer has weapons other than Warthog and Shard Defractor. Huh, who knew?
@tdimensional6733
2 жыл бұрын
at what point does sheer accuracy turn buckshot into slugs
@zetsubou1222
2 жыл бұрын
What mod do you use to keep grunts in place?
@LazyMaybe
2 жыл бұрын
I think there used to be a mod I used for that sort of thing, but I'm blanking on its name and it broke with an update anyways. So currently I'm just using cheat engine to do that. Basically everything else I'm doing with mods.
@ilikepie4139
2 жыл бұрын
How do you disable the creature AI in the spawn menu mod?
@LazyMaybe
2 жыл бұрын
I think there used to be a separate godmode mod that let you do that(or something along those lines, I know I used to do it with a mod) but ever since a lot of mods broke in u35 I use cheat engine to do that.
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