Booze and heroin definitely dulled Jimmy's live solos and playing at times. However, Jimmy Page is a bona fide master musician, early session guy, songwriter and producer.
@robert.m4676
23 күн бұрын
He also broke his hand and the show still had to roll on!
@charliesaucier3352
23 күн бұрын
@robert.m4676 At least on 2 separate tours in the 70's. There are even old pics of the band standing around being photographed, and Page is wearing a bandage on his left fretting hand. I believe in one incident he had his hand slammed by a train door, ouch! No doubt, that had to affect his playing big time!
@robert.m4676
23 күн бұрын
@@charliesaucier3352 yeah Page caught a ton of flack for playing sloppy. Anyone with a really bad hand injury knows you can’t do things anywhere near like how you would had that injury not happened. It’s kinda too bad he didn’t just tell crowds about the injuries but then again he’s got a job to do and many people on the Crue need the paychecks. I have had to o deal with a hairline fracture in my wrist doing tree work. It changes how I do everything. Page kept the show going and that’s more important!! I still had to work as well.
@charlesdobbs4570
23 күн бұрын
He had a serious heroin problem. And it definitely effected his playing. He sucked live because he was always high.
@NovChivon
23 күн бұрын
I forget who but some famous guitar player called Jimmy page a slopster
@BrianOates
24 күн бұрын
Musicians who saw them live in the late 1970s commonly went away disappointed with Jimmy’s obvious impaired performances. He had a drug problem and didn’t bother to sober up for their shows. Eric Clapton was like this then too, he played shows sloppy drunk too.
@Yeahok-pc2jd
24 күн бұрын
Ya that’s y Page and Clapton both sux. Jeff Beck was the master musician- RIP
@robbieclark7828
23 күн бұрын
At least Clapton could still play when he was screwed up
@bloozedaddy
23 күн бұрын
@@Yeahok-pc2jdnever dug the over-use of the whammy bar...felt like my ears needed Dramamine. To each his own.
@bigbadsauce92
22 күн бұрын
yeahhh Jimmy literally use to get loaded before every show, and *routinely* during the actual shows as well. Even in "Song Remains the Same" you can see he was fking blitzed but maybe not too drunk/doped out on downers.
@ashura9706
20 күн бұрын
Same for Pete Townshend. He’s a trainwreck in Kilburn 77.
@Dan-zq5wt
24 күн бұрын
I think this was a fair assessment of Page’s live career. After 1973, particularly in 1977 and beyond (at least until he returned more cleaned up in the late 80s), Page’s concerts were sometimes on point, and sometimes not, depending on his state. I think he always tried to do his best, but I think he also lost the fluid connection of brain and fingers where he could really improvise some “wow” moments. I think it’s unfair of some people to call Page “sloppy” pre 1975 - he was bringing the “guitar army” in one man every night - it required huge focus and energy which was obviously depleted in the late 70s, even as the songs became more complicated and the catalogue bigger. In his prime, even if Page’s soloing style was sometimes disjointed, he had 100% control of the song - rhythm, riff, fills, various touches and subtleties. The guy knew what he was doing and had huge balls, feel and emotion.
@BarelyBoomer
19 күн бұрын
I have a ton of BlueRay footage of Page in the early seventies... He is a technically shitty guitarist then too. But he's very creative. But he certainly was a slop king... He can't play to save his life now! Beck was killing it weeks before he passed away. Clapton is better too. But Clapton is simple. Beck was extraordinary always. And he was always getting better... No decay.
@AlbertoJorgeSoares
16 күн бұрын
@@BarelyBoomer He was a shitty live guitarist pre-1973, for instance??? You just don't know what you're talking about...!
@isaacverrall8782
15 күн бұрын
@@BarelyBoomerim 28 you been on the planet way longer then me and still have no clue what you're talking about 🤣🤣
@BarelyBoomer
11 күн бұрын
Almost.... I've got a 3 disk DVD set that spans Zeppelins entire career. Page was definitely sloppy most of the time he was with Zeppelin. When pick attack doesn't match the timing of a fretted note, when you play wrong notes and chords by mistake, when you have tempo issues and cannot hear that your guitar isn't in tune... that is sloppiness. When a person plays with these attributes that is sloppy. It's just a descriptive technical description. It's not giving Jimmi or anybody else a hard time. I saw them in 77... 🤮😪 Awful. I'm not a Humble Pie fan, but they blew Zeppelin off the stage. They played songs. In the studio you can punch in over mistakes, or just re-record the track. Live is merciless. Yes, before heroine he was a great session musician, but as an aging guitarist who is beginning of arthritis, I know how frustrating it can be to know what to do because I've done it thousands of times, but my hand intermittently won't be cooperative. But at those times I play sloppy. Is what it is, not what we'd like it to be.
@BarelyBoomer
11 күн бұрын
@@isaacverrall8782 I witnessed it live. I grew up with others who saw them and had very similar opinions. And i still own video proof incase a forget! 😆 I play (pretty well). But I haven't a clue about what I'm talking about? 🤔... OK. 😉 And Biden has no cognitive issues... People believed that too, despite all the recorded evidence....
@tomstegall1346
24 күн бұрын
Heroine really took its toll on Jimmy and jeopardized the well being of the band. He was sadly the creator and the destroyer. Still the greatest innovator of all time and as good of a producer that ever broke the threshold of a studio….
@Muff_Master
20 күн бұрын
Your comment reminds of the movie “The Commitments” about a band put together in Ireland playing soul and R&B. Good movie, check it out. Anyway, they misspell “Heroin” as “Heroine” when doing an early free benefit gig. They were onstage with “HEROINE” in big letters with the “E” at the end crossed out. It was funny. That’s a polite way of bringing the misspelling to your attention and at the same time telling you about a good movie. Cheers! Oh, and yeah, your comment sums it up pretty good I think.
@tomstegall1346
20 күн бұрын
Owe welll eye got me pointe acros
@Muff_Master
20 күн бұрын
@@tomstegall1346 LOL Yes indeed.
@baddaytrader
17 күн бұрын
@@Muff_Masternothing wrong with helping people out with their spelling. Language is important, and online the way we type is the only indicator we have of people’s ability. Not saying smart people don’t make typos, but I’m quicker to dismiss somebody’s opinion if they don’t know how to write what they are trying to say. Everybody has an opinion, everybody has ideas, not everybody’s are worth giving the same weight.
@Muff_Master
17 күн бұрын
@@baddaytrader Ok, well…thanks?
@justbob242
10 күн бұрын
Imagine being high as balls on heroin and still being one of the best guitar players alive.
@nochannelmusician769
9 күн бұрын
He was NOT one of the best when he was high. That’s the whole point.
@melvinwhitejr9968
9 күн бұрын
Even Jimmy can't imagine it
@SmokingBirds
8 күн бұрын
Imagine you miss the whole point of him being not an amazing guitar player live.
@Frankenfukstein
5 күн бұрын
😂 The only person who thought he was the "best alive" when he was on Heroin, was himself. I saw while he was whacked out, ARMS benefit concert. He was completely embarrassing himself. Drooling on himself during Stairway. Total joke.
@mrsteamer
4 күн бұрын
Keepin it real
@andrewrussell4707
23 күн бұрын
When he was sober, he was a fine guitarist.
@BarelyBoomer
19 күн бұрын
Not very often...
@verginithe
12 күн бұрын
When sober he was the best
@oftin_wong
12 күн бұрын
You can't take the successes of led zeppelin away or devalue them with this type of pettiness
@langerdan11
8 күн бұрын
Hilarious. "A fine guitarist". Jimmy Page. Like, Jimmy Page.
@EbonyPope
6 күн бұрын
Can anyone please explain to me how he was so much better on acoustic though? I mean even at his best he still wasn't a really clean player but as soon as he picks up an acoustic and plays black mountain side he can play blistering fast without all that slop that people complain about? How is this possible? Can please someone make a video about it? I have never heard anyone addressing that. It's still a mystery to. Acoustics are known to be harder to play than electric. So how come he is cleaner when he plays and acoustic???
@jerald6023
24 күн бұрын
Yea, the lifestyle caught up to him & affected his playing, so yea, compared to his younger self, not as good, but people dont realize that a slightly compromised Jimmy is STILL better than 99% of all guitarists alive-
@Local-Bus
9 күн бұрын
Maybe 98 percent
@costamesa22
3 күн бұрын
Well said.
@newyorkeranew
13 күн бұрын
I’ve known Jimmy Paige as a neighbor. The most unfailingly polite person you’ll meet. Truly a delight. I’m grateful he overcame what was, obviously, a major addition.
@Toberenamedonedaymaybe
5 күн бұрын
whats he like? has he ever revealed any zeppelin fun facts?
@SakinCorap
5 күн бұрын
Do you happen to be Robbie Williams? 😅
@beckblowbyblow
5 күн бұрын
More Fake news...
@caseD5150
4 күн бұрын
Who the FUCK says some shit like this… “Oh, Jimmy Page was my neighbor…” like BRUH 😂😂😳 Pics or it didn’t happen
@beckblowbyblow
4 күн бұрын
@@newyorkeranew More Fake News....
@tims8603
24 күн бұрын
Robert Plant was considering leaving Led Zeppelin due to Jimmy's drug use. He would sometimes be right on but other times not so much.
@Jimmybarth
23 күн бұрын
What about his Satanism and love of young girls?
@jacobtomsovic1232
15 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Robert plant was best friends with John Bonham who was an alcoholic. Don’t quote me but I have seen sources that say when Bonzo choked on his puke and died he had well over a gallon of booze in his blood. No drugs though just booze. I’m almost positive the facts are that Bonzo consumed 50+ drinks in 24 hours with no sleep and little food. I am personally an alcoholic and after 20 I’m blacked out and lucky to wake up the next day in me own bed not in jail and alive.
@turnsufficient4971
14 күн бұрын
That's not correct at all ! LOL. When and what year was this fairy take supposed to have happened ? I'll listen
@tims8603
14 күн бұрын
@@turnsufficient4971 It was in a documentary that I saw. I can't remember the details, it was a long time ago. There was a lot of talk about Jimmy's drug use and how the band members weren't happy about it. It was based on interviews with the band members and people who knew the intimate details.
@turnsufficient4971
14 күн бұрын
@tims8603 That is not an accurate statement and the documentary would be 100% wrong. Robert considered leaving Led Zeppelin in 1977/78 - due to his son, Karac, dying on July 26th, 1977, while Led Zeppelin was on tour in the US. It had nothing to do with Jimmy Page or any other band member.
@scottbaxendale323
24 күн бұрын
I’d much rather see/hear someone put it out there on the edge of destruction every solo than to play it safe and copy the record. Sometimes a little slop is better.
@stesrad
24 күн бұрын
Yep ! ...👍👍
@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020
24 күн бұрын
You don’t have to play exactly like on the record and still be successful in re-imagining songs for the live stage. Page was excellent at improvising, the whole band was. At some point from 1975 onwards tho that was not the case. Sometimes he would deliver but that thing he had before was gone by that point and no, sloppy playing is never good period, no matter who does it.
@scottbaxendale323
24 күн бұрын
@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 I’ll take sloppy Page over pristine Eric Johnson every day of the week,……it’s still ALL about the song no matter how many perfect licks you play. When you are on tour doing one nighters after a month it gets very grueling and exhausting. This leads most bands into stimulants and booze to make it through the tour. Record labels and band mgmt folks NEVER consider the health and mental well being of any of the artists. Their goal is ALWAYS to make as much money in the shortest time possible. Page in a drunken stupor still plays better than 99% of mere mortal guitarists.
@jordanprysmiki5361
20 күн бұрын
I don't know. I kind of want to hear it like the album
@M-A-Y-H-E-M
20 күн бұрын
@@scottbaxendale323: If a particular song (by any artist) becomes part of my *FAVORITE songs* "all-time" - I would definitely WANT to HEAR/watch it *"EXACTLY as it is"* in live concert! 💯% . . . ☝🏽 ✅️ 🤷🏻♂️ 🤦🏻
@patriot3636
23 күн бұрын
As a guitarist, gigging for the last 30 years, here's my take. There's a big difference between studio playing and live playing. In the studio, you can do multiple takes and get things perfect. On stage, you're not only playing music, but putting on a show. Some of the musicians ship suffers, due to the show. For me, when playing solos, I try to play those note for note. Some of the rhythm stuff, I change, so it's easier to play. It sounds the same, but not playing the same. With that being said, I also believe that Jimmy Page, as big of a legend he is, did get sloppy. I've always looked at it as, he's Jimmy F**king Page, he can play however he wants.
@nochannelmusician769
9 күн бұрын
The “he’s X, he can do what he wants” argument is enabling sloppiness. He’s one of the greats, but he ceases to be great in those moments. A bad solo is a bad solo, despite the amazing track record of the soloist.
@todds79jag
8 күн бұрын
You can be gigging for 30 hours days or years. I just think it’s common knowledge that all guitarists mess up live , vocalists can’t hit high notes properly or thr flat a lot of the times. But yeah, Alex someone said the booze and heroin definitely dulled that part of his brain to improvise and perhaps play better
@alvodin6197
8 күн бұрын
He's overrated, period. Eddie Van Halen was sloppy, but at least he had something original. Jimmy had nothing but stolen fucking blues licks. Prove me wrong. Go ahead
@EbonyPope
6 күн бұрын
Can anyone please explain to me how he was so much better on acoustic though? I mean even at his best he still wasn't a really clean player but as soon as he picks up an acoustic and plays black mountain side he can play blistering fast without all that slop that people complain about? How is this possible? Can please someone make a video about it? I have never heard anyone addressing that. It's still a mystery to. Acoustics are known to be harder to play than electric. So how come he is cleaner when he plays and acoustic???
@badastronaut2112
5 күн бұрын
Alex Lifeson always played the same if not better live...
@chuckr1951
10 күн бұрын
I was never a huge Zeppelin fanatic, but Jimmy Page was a guitar player for the ages IMO.
@820hurleyj
20 күн бұрын
Jimmy was lucky he could stand in those concerts. Sober, he's great!
@vitom5513
24 күн бұрын
I've been saying this for years. He got VERY sloppy. Listen to THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME songs and then listen in 1977 (MSG), it was sloppy and stuttered, like the pick was getting stuck after a note.
@freddieelias6794
24 күн бұрын
Keep and mind that TSRTS was heavily edited, spliced, and overdubbed. Listen to the bootlegs of 1973 msg, he sounds a little more ‘sloppy’ than what were presented in the film. Either way still my favorite of all time
@austingode
23 күн бұрын
Many , many retakes on tsrts…….
@digiorno1142
19 күн бұрын
To be fair though, TSRTM has been edited to hell. It wasn’t just one concert, it was a compilation of recordings from 3 different nights at MSG and they spliced together all of the best moments to make it seem like one continuous concert. Which is why Robert’s vocal performance is seemingly very good with no cracks, which is unheard of for him in 1973. If you want to see Jimmy Page at his peak, 1971-1972 are absolutely his best years. Stairway to Heaven live in Orlando 1971 is just unbelievably good. The best STH solo of all time. Late 1971 is peak live playing for Jimmy Page.
@22julip
23 күн бұрын
There’s a big difference from playing 3 chord rock and blues , to playing Achilles last stand and you shook me !! Yes he was a little more rough around the edges, but that kind of song and others take a lot of work Plus he had the built in problem of not remembering night to night how to play it the same way . Not sloppy difficulty level .
@WaitingtoHit
24 күн бұрын
Heroin addiction impairs your motor skills. Duh.
@andrewbowen6875
21 күн бұрын
Add alcohol as well and you done for.
@brandall101
15 күн бұрын
I mean... sorta. Keep in mind many of the jazz greats were regularly on smack. Prime GnR Slash had a massive heroin problem. I feel like alcohol is actually the thing that impairs live performances.
@andrewbowen6875
15 күн бұрын
@brandall101 yeah you right it’s alcohol. The only time heroin users have a problem is when they don’t have it
@WaitingtoHit
15 күн бұрын
@@andrewbowen6875 Science would disagree. People like Slash and Charlie Parker would be the exception, not the rule. However, Parker himself said that he wasn't playing at his best while deep in addiction.
@Jake-pz7oi
12 күн бұрын
That’s not actually true. It actually can relax you and make you play more fluid. It’s the alcohol that will greatly impair motor function
@br1rocks
24 күн бұрын
Yeah I don’t know about impaired performances, but I do know that Page was improvising a lot on stage, and really pushing it melodically in ways that “cleaner” players never do. The moods and lines he was creating live are really unparalleled in their breadth and deprh. He was more like an impressionist painter as a lead player, going for big ideas and shades of meaning rather than absolute perfection. Oh and his lead on Achilles Last Stand at the Knebworrh 79 show is even better than the album, and almost brings me to tears. The sense of yearning and desperation he achieved on that lead was just amazing.
@insidelight1
24 күн бұрын
A pesar de lo sloopy que suelen decir muchos yo creo que Page estaba explorando otros territorios creativos cada vez que tocaba sus canciones y eso es genial y probablemente su metodo de composición favorito. Saludos! Jammin' to new Songs
@charliesaucier3352
24 күн бұрын
You are right about JP pushing the envelope live. Nothing can compare to his amazing guitar improvisation on the 27 minute Dazed and Confused performance from 1973 TSRTS. That ranks as some of the best, if not the best, guitar improvisation I've ever heard. It's a masterpiece that could never be duplicated!
@davidpaterson3443
23 күн бұрын
His unedited No Quarter guitar solo in The Song Remains the Same is fire me his finest improvised and greatest solo. Absolutely magnificent - and that solo was all live, not edited in any way.
@rustyshackleford509
21 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@costasavarikas1891
21 күн бұрын
Yea I agree totally
@cryptogumbyckb1183
24 күн бұрын
so tired of this nonsense. As guitarists we should all strive to be as sloppy as Jimmy😅😅😅
@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020
24 күн бұрын
Bro why you being a fan girl? Is it that hard to admit when one of your musical heroes can’t play like he used to or that he has sloppy moments?
@andydudley1775
24 күн бұрын
@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 not change what he said .
@cryptogumbyckb1183
24 күн бұрын
@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 he's not sloppy you just have a boy band crush and probably love choreography and a possy
@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020
24 күн бұрын
@@cryptogumbyckb1183 if you think he’s not sloppy then you need to get your ears checked. Most musicians who saw him play in the late 70s, those they still had respect for him as a musician said that he was sloppy when playing. Now these are rock musicians who know more than you do and what boy band do i have a crush on? Tell me cos last i checked, I don’t listen to boy bands, nothing against them they’re just not my type of music. Choreography is an art form tho, and you make it seem like it’s a bad thing which really makes you sound daft. You should listen to more sloppy guitar players tho, sounds like you have a thing for them.
@cryptogumbyckb1183
24 күн бұрын
@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 you take bad takes to an art form..
@JamieKoutras
10 күн бұрын
I read the Led Zeppelin biography by Bob Spitz and it started with the booze addiction, then he heavily got into cocaine and eventually heroin, hence his sloppy playing. I have nothing against Zeppelin nor Page as I am a big fan of both Zeppelin and Page and I see him as an idol.
@zeppelinmexicano
3 күн бұрын
Saw him in the Nineties. His playing was excellent. When he pointed the headstock to the sky during Hearbreaker I knew the old Jimmy was back. The solo was clean, and that ain't no easy solo. The crowd went insane. I never heard a crowd that insane over anything including a Larry Bird buzzer beater.
@jayinwood647
22 күн бұрын
A brief encounter with heroin possibly could have affected his performances. It certainly affected mine
@sunnyztmoney
4 күн бұрын
"Brief" "Could have" "Possibly" Lmao
@ericeverett510
24 күн бұрын
Jimmy Page is the One. Greatest of them all. Producer, band leader, the right look, songwriter, song stealer, business leader. Page had it ALL. Yeah, drugs got him bad for a while BUT.....Page survived. Bonhams death, tragic as it was, had one silver lining. I'm convinced Bonzos death gave Jimmy That Moment. The moment that ALL drunks/junkies must have.....or die Jimmy Page......forever. My man👍👍
@TheNaFun
18 күн бұрын
Oh he was definitely sloppy, and I'm a lifelong diehard fan. But when he was on, he was fire. I think he just didn't mind being sloppy since he felt he was winging it the entire time. The heroin definitely didn't help, of course. I think he made up for it with the London 2007 show though. And he was quite good on the Page/Plant tours in the 90s.
@spaceghost8995
13 күн бұрын
Page never played a song the same way twice. It was really annoying.
@A_Final_Hit
23 күн бұрын
After '75 is when Page was in the throes of a serious heroin addiction. Sadly, this had a noticeable effect on his playing at live gigs. And while that may explain the sloppy performances, it certainly doesn't excuse it, either.
@stephenshepherd1917
20 күн бұрын
Imperfections = PERFECTION ❤
@ScratchGlass9
3 күн бұрын
We saw Zeppelin in 77. They were frikkin ' GREAT. 100 FEET FROM STAGE. MAIN FLOOR. $15.00 and we were pissed it was so expensive !
@illsubrecords
24 күн бұрын
You could say the same about 90% of musicians from his time. The standards were just being set. Bands made more money back then so they could get high and not care.
@markl5998
24 күн бұрын
This is a pretty fair take.
@illsubrecords
19 күн бұрын
@markl5998 thanks, i try to be fair but speak my truth. I don't like idol worshipping the greats but i think respect for them is necessary.
@TheNaFun
18 күн бұрын
I think there were two modes then: the Pink Floyd note-for-note perfect copy of the studio album, and the live improv recreation with a stripped down band of Zeppelin.
@illsubrecords
17 күн бұрын
@TheNaFun idk if thats true. Plenty of bands do improv and arent sloppy drunks. Vulfpeck is the tightest band ever and they probably make way less money. I think the attitude carried things further back then. Also no video evidence of sloppy playing so fans would keep buying tickets where as today if you're a drunk idiot everyone calls you out in the comments. Only a dumbass pays to see lars ulrich play live LOL.
@matthewblanchard9301
22 күн бұрын
Heroin will do that to you......🎸💉👀🙏 He's lucky to be alive after those final years with Led Zep, '75 through '79. He was amazing at Knebworth in '79, but still had a way to go but Bonzo's death at Page's home no less ended everything Led Zep. When I saw him at the last A.R.M.S. concert in December '83 he still looked thin and ragged. But did play well at that show, with Paul Rogers performing 'Midnight Moonlight'(soon to recorded on the Firms first album) Performing an instrumental version of 'Stairway to Heaven' with Jeff Beck & Eric Clapton backing him, and with Beck, Clapton and the rest of that all star band touring for that A.R.M.S. BENEFIT, the encore that night was 'With a little help from my friends' with of course Joe Cocker on lead vocals(Page performed on that Cocker debut album and that's Page's intro riff on 'With a little help from my friends'. From that point on Page has played extremely well from The Firm to Outrider, Coverdale/Page, Page & Plant, with the Black Crows to the O2 Reunion to the Link Wray induction and performaning 'Rumble' at the RRHOF two years ago at age 80. Will he play again? Yes. Will he tour? Maybe, but again he's 80. Jimmy Page has always been an inprov guitarist and sometimes it's clean and sometimes sloppy, I saw him with The Yardbirds with and without Beck, with Led Zeppelin and all the for mentioned bands after Post - Zeppelin. It is what it is, 'The Song Remains The Same'? Not Really......🕶️
@Jake-pz7oi
12 күн бұрын
It ain’t the heroin that made him sloppy it was the alcohol
@cobar5342
23 күн бұрын
Live he was useless after 1975. Heroin was taking its toll
@scottculross4470
16 күн бұрын
I saw him for his outrider tour in '89 I think @ the fabulous forum and he blew the doors off that place...
@EdwardHester3615
11 күн бұрын
The fact that his solos were sloppy live only added to how cool it was..he would push himself to the edge of his abilities live and it was beautiful
@Sledgehammers_Nail
20 күн бұрын
You know who else was considered "sloppy"? Hendrix. But that was also part of his uniqueness.
@worldsheaviestjamband93
4 күн бұрын
Hendrix was “sloppy” but adventurous and super powerful. Page sounded like farts missing notes.
@Sledgehammers_Nail
3 күн бұрын
@@worldsheaviestjamband93 I always preferred some slop over perfection. Rock n roll without some slop is kinda gross. Just look at today's "rock" musicians. Reminds me of a pink tea party.
@chiyo-chanholocaust8143
16 күн бұрын
The internet can't not grasp the greys of life, it's either black or white. So don't you DARE say Jimmy Page who created legendary iconic solos could play sloply live, NO he's perfect forever. That noise and those dirty notes you say? No man that's just how rock'n roll is! it was the drugs! he had road fatigue! He never found a pick he was confortable with while touring! His girlfriend had just broken up with him that week! his dog had died! He actually didn't have both arms! Etc etc
@nochannelmusician769
9 күн бұрын
This is the correct take
@masterofreality5528
9 күн бұрын
Fkn right, bro! Can't stand thise type of fanboys
@RosannaMahon
8 күн бұрын
🤔 Saw him n he was sloppy
@grinja73
7 күн бұрын
Yaaaaaah
@ignacioduplan8422
3 күн бұрын
Sloppy.
@matteopaolucci6801
23 күн бұрын
Heroin is a bad companion, cut the guy some slack
@jujuUK68
15 күн бұрын
cut the guy some crack? That's not going to help!
@tarshenry
18 күн бұрын
Apparently he was sloppy when he was on heroin. Sometimes when he was playing the guitar with two necks, he was seen strumming one neck, but fingering the chords on the other neck! It was not a good look (or sound) by all accounts. Heroin is bad mkay
@ericruiz9255
47 минут бұрын
Well is very important to mention that Jimmy broke his hand in two separate occasions once breaking his pinky and the 2nd time his ring finger both times his left hand (fretboard hand)
@bradmoore7971
21 күн бұрын
He played really well at Knebworth
@moonriverdiver
6 күн бұрын
Best concert (1979) on their 5 hour live DVD!
@TylerAnthonyRomelMusic
24 күн бұрын
No one can copy those sloppy improvised live licks I think he is the best acoustic guitarist ever. a studio master. When every song is technically diverse and in a different tuning you cant deny the mastery. Timeless
@moonie1980
11 күн бұрын
pagey is my hero as a guitar player myself, but may i suggest you check out a japanese page clone here on youtube, his name is MR Jimmy...just search him, he plays any page performance note for note , studio or live, jason bonham even used him on recent tours with his zep revival band....the guy wants to be page and is so close to his playing,its freaky...trust me you wont be dissapointed, he keeps the best music ever created alive.and jimmy page himself has approved him.
@user-en3kc6ch9p
2 күн бұрын
Один из лучших гитаристов в мире. Что хотите, пишите. Это ничего не изменит. Пейдж, легендарный музыкант
@matthewholmes3675
24 күн бұрын
Sloppy couldn't be more accurate!
@lamneth1
22 күн бұрын
Whatever buddy...go listen to your John Mayer records...
@skeezix8156
24 күн бұрын
All I know is I sound better when I’m shitfaced drunk 😂
@ZoSo_LedZep
23 күн бұрын
Even your neighbors say so 😅
@Guitarplayer724
23 күн бұрын
@@ZoSo_LedZeponly when they’re shit-faced drunk too! 😂
@Clearlight201
23 күн бұрын
This is a BS discussion. The thing I always appreciated the most about Jimmy Page was he never lost that ability to create and be innovative even during a live performance. He didn't 'play to a formula' but instead he went wherever he wanted in his playing. Probably didn't even care about the occasional "wrong" note as long as he didn't lose the spontaneity. In this respect he was just like Hendrix and a few others from the era where even live music was like a jam session where creativity and innovation was valued. I'm not saying he didn't have a drug problem which affected other areas of the band but I don't find fault with his later playing. I think those who judge him to a formula are missing the point, not really fit to judge one of the greatest ever.
@Guitarplayer724
23 күн бұрын
Great comment.
@jennybaji421
18 күн бұрын
Your comment should be the ONLY COMMENT on here‼️‼️ Page is Gods gift to us in this tough world we got to survive in & somehow not be depressed living in!!! The world is corrupt ! Thank you for LED ZEPPELIN ‼️ Their MUSIC has given me hope ,happiness made life much more Tolerable and magical!!! Amen!
@roboi2241
18 күн бұрын
Well said, I'd rather hear Page and Hendrix's bad performances than most of the clean flawless guitarists who never put a finger or tuning out of place yet sound like a sonic vacuum to my ears and do nothing for me. It's a bit like calling Picasso and van Gogh sloppy because they didn't paint clearly defined depictions of the subject matter they were conveying in their art.
@Clearlight201
18 күн бұрын
@@roboi2241 good analogy!
@Clearlight201
18 күн бұрын
@@jennybaji421 thank you, and well said!
@toddzydiak9910
18 күн бұрын
Not putting him down, but I've Always heard him as Sloppy in his solos...but the rhythms/melodies he comes up with... 😳😯🤯 Unreal!
@NeptunesLagoon
5 күн бұрын
Sloppily fantastic 😮 and one of the true greats!😊 still… ever see the O2 arena show…? 🎉❤
@messi8921
23 күн бұрын
68 to 75 Page was the man!
@TheHumbuckerboy
23 күн бұрын
Hendrix was the man until his untimely death
@messi8921
23 күн бұрын
@@TheHumbuckerboy Hendrix is like Yngwie, both have raw talent. Unbelievable talent. But history tells us that Page was the man, followed by EVH.
@BrianOates
21 күн бұрын
@@messi8921 LZ fans have overblown the importance of LZ in the context of the period they were making recordings. They were great of course, but there were many bands that gave much more focused live shows and there were a lot of bands that played intricate music with tons of parts to remember but they still pulled them off flawlessly live. LZ was one of many great recorded bands of the era not the only one at all.
@tmm7369
24 күн бұрын
Most overrated guitar player.
@emiledarraghbarry
20 күн бұрын
👎🏻
@danielevans9379
9 күн бұрын
A man who writes some of the most iconic riffs and rock songs of the 20th century cannot be “overrated.” Although everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion. Page’s genius isn’t his flashy technique or how he plays in a live concert. His brilliance is his compositions. There is not one single rock guitarists from the last 40 years that even comes close, as far as songs, to the body of work of Jimmy Page.
@emiledarraghbarry
9 күн бұрын
@@danielevans9379 Tony Iommi, and David Gilmour have entered the chat. But, largely, I agree with you. Page No. 1 for prolific guitar songwriting.
@danielevans9379
9 күн бұрын
@@emiledarraghbarry Let’s be honest brother it’s all very subjective. I totally agree Iommi and Gilmour are definitely in that conversation. When you think this man wrote “The Rain Song” “Since I’ve Been Loving You” “Stairway to Heaven” “Kashmir” “Achilles Last Stand” etc etc its hard not to put him at the very top. 👍
@emiledarraghbarry
9 күн бұрын
@@danielevans9379 I could be inclined to choose different picks ahead of those; such as 'Rock and Roll', 'Black Dog', 'Whole Lotta Love', and 'The Lemon Song' (even if an original 'template' was found elsewhere); but we're agreed he's the best ever for formulating guitar songs.
@zacharyradford5552
24 күн бұрын
Drugs and stuff sometime is just a little more difficult to play live.
@valleyknock3522
2 күн бұрын
I love the part where he showed us the difference
@DanaWebb2017
4 күн бұрын
I've noticed that the most successful musicians started young and have a foundational understanding of music theory; they have honed in on things about music, and its foundation is like a science to them. They don't spend their time intoxicated.
@jmyers6175
21 күн бұрын
His life, he enjoyed everything, and indulged in what he knew would affect his health. Took its toll on others before him.
@delmamacedo323
15 күн бұрын
Oh my God They only have princes 😅😎🎸✨👀👋👋
@disturbed157
5 күн бұрын
Eddie van halen said this in an interview. His hands were always fucked up. He went on tour injured after a certain year almost every time.
@pyaeger911
2 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, he fought heroin addiction back in those days. I’ve known what it’s like to be in the ups and downs of opioid use, due to chronic pain. It can affect every aspect of your life, even when you’re not addicted. He’s still one of my favorite guitarists of all time.
@runeshadow
3 күн бұрын
I prefer "unscripted"
@iancargill864
3 күн бұрын
From may 75-aprill 77, zeppelin didn't play live. Robert Plants son passed shortly after the tour started, and the band didn't play live again till Kebworth 1979.
@tago69mago671
21 күн бұрын
Hendrix detractors like to tell you how sloppy he was live. Well his lifestyle was pretty damn sloppy too. But when, like Page, he was good, he was very good!
@Levineclifton82
16 күн бұрын
FFS ITS CALLED HERION & BOOZE stop the waffle JIMMY PAGE is is without a doubt 1 of GREATEST ROCK GODs EVER ....LED ZEPPELIN music will live 4 ever ...& Jimmy was untouchable from 69 _75 💯
@Ijbvfknnn
15 күн бұрын
I’m sorry but did he say in the video that he wasn’t any of those things? Stop crying
@jemkeystv5717
8 күн бұрын
I saw Page and Plant in the early nineties, he was great, one of my favorite concerts all time
@slow-mo_moonbuggy
2 күн бұрын
Page's Brown notes are simultaneously hilarious but somehow they also work.
@realledbetter5015
20 күн бұрын
There is at least one lick that Jimmy seemingly has a problem with live and it is in the song Misty Mountain Hop which isn’t played often . It drives me crazy when he doesn’t execute it. But at times he approximates certain leads and they are poignantly fitting. It is one of many reasons to collect live Zeppelin bootlegs and makes listening to them so much fun.
@carloswsteele
20 күн бұрын
Jimmy is who he is, and that’s all that matters. He’s inspired me to be a hard-working, and equally sloppily natural musician. And if he really needed to, he could peel the paint off the walls with his stellar guitar stylings. I’ll praise the man forever.
@user-ib1cc5uz5q
13 күн бұрын
He was at his best when LED Zeppelin played in the Royal Albert Hall in 1970
@ORION2180
10 күн бұрын
Indeed he was, still a legend.
@BarelyBoomer
20 күн бұрын
I saw Zeppelin in 77 at ASU. Out of more than 150 concerts they were truly the worst band I've ever heard. It was the last show they ever played in Arizona. Drugs. 😮
@MetalGuitar911
5 күн бұрын
Let's talk about Kirk Hammett now
@spaceboy3101
4 күн бұрын
eesh. 😮. Mr. Wah Pedal has entered the chat, and it appears as if he has a kirkhammet stuck to him. Can we get a doctor in here please? 😅
@Bibleguy89-uu3nr
7 сағат бұрын
I would have been glad to see him play live literally any of those years. Interesting though
@chrispage8716
13 күн бұрын
Of course he was that's what made him great the recovery and the fills he put in to get back on track did some of the best guitar work I've ever heard. He is the best
@azufre48
2 күн бұрын
Fluye el Aceite
@rakkubohara2305
8 күн бұрын
And then theres Dimebag never sober playing every note so perfectly. He was something else
@ernestobarten8940
23 сағат бұрын
Nobody would imagine that the rock groups of the 60s were a product of the Tavistock Institute, that's where the new era current came from 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Thus managing to change the world forever.
@argsigil7208
18 күн бұрын
Jimmy and Jeff Beck played what Blackmore once called "chance music" meaning that if you caught them on a good night they would be untouchable . The same could be said about Hendrix, you knew by his attitude that he wasn't "on" that day.
@Marginal391
9 күн бұрын
One of the greatest rock guitar players ever .... This is art. You either accept it the way it is, or you switch to another artist. Thank you 😌💞
@asphalion8291
15 күн бұрын
I was just caught up on the fact that Jimmy Page was a session guitarist in his TEENS
@mcmusicm
9 күн бұрын
He was as creative as anyone can get, but the answer is still yes. IMO his sloppiness is part of his sound and that's something I like about it!
@johnctorides1821
13 күн бұрын
I just played this back a couple times lol. Fuck yeah man
@semp36445
4 күн бұрын
The two warm up shows in Copenhagen and to a slightly lesser extent the first Knebworth show in 79, Jimmy was on fire. There’s a couple shows from the 1980 tour over Europe and quite a few from the 77 US tour where Jimmy was on fire as well. Not as consistent as he was in the earlier days, and not saying smack didn’t hamper him, which it did, but thru the entirety of Led Zeppelin, Jimmy was doing things on stage nobody else could do. It’s also the era, nobody can outright say “oh he was on dope this gig” click tracks and loopers and a small army’s worth of tech guys running a rig and what not weren’t around back then. He definitely did get sloppy but quite a bit, that sloppiness and over the edge playing worked out for the better more often than not
@jamesduffy7106
8 күн бұрын
Those knebworth concerts are legendary tho
@Zas695
10 күн бұрын
I love how Page makes his guitar sound. It's very unique to him. Just like all the greats, if you here their licks from across the room, you know almost instantly who's playing them.
@catherinewilliams9680
5 күн бұрын
I saw The Firm in 86 and he was fantastic.
@valiyev_damir
19 күн бұрын
What ever you say Led Zeppelin all time #1 Rock Group! And it is Jimmy's contribution ❤❤❤
@chrisnealis4270
Күн бұрын
Excuse me, but WHAT THE HELL are you talking about? Nobody’s Fault But Mine and Achilles Last Stand at Knebworth are two top tier solos and possibly the best Jimmy ever played live of those two particular songs. And that’s 1979 hanging on the edge of life Jimmy. I possess and have been listening to literally hundreds of hours of soundboard and audience bootlegs ranging from the first 1968 shows through the final July 1980 European tour show for more than 25 years. Whomever made this sounds like a ridiculously casual fan.
@lt.reubenrozeyt5716
Күн бұрын
I can definitely hear the difference between playing live and in the studio I mean when you're tripping balls on hereoin with a les paul guitar down to your knees, I'd struggle as well.
@finscreenname
18 күн бұрын
This is why (and other reasons) Zep never got back together. Like John Paul says, they were never friends, they were business partners.
@glennbasilii552
16 күн бұрын
From 69-75 they were untouchable. Nothing sloppy at all about his playing at MSG '73
@manuelsegoviano1572
17 күн бұрын
Theres a interview of brad whitford a killer guitarist who is super fluid and literally doesn't mess up (carries the guitar parts in aerosmith, love ya joe) but he said he saw an early Zeppelin concert and he couldn't believe how articulate and precise jimmy was, he saod he was incredibly technical and he played at time better than the record, thats why when jimmy got sloppier he said he was a bit disappointed because he knew how incredible jimmy was and could be as a player
@charleswilliams9757
14 күн бұрын
Jimmy had been chasing the Dragon after 73 and we'll into the 80's
@krisfujimoto72
4 күн бұрын
Everybody has tough days. His sloppy solos are still awesome for people blessed to see him.
@Doug_Hefernen
24 күн бұрын
He improvised all the time and sometimes this was mistaken for sloppiness.
@ZeroCool2013
18 күн бұрын
His style changed as he wanted a different tone from his guitar and cleaner sound that's more the roots of rock and roll beginnings. Wasn't surprised when he and Robert put out an album of classic covers as the Honeydrippers
@friguy4444
5 күн бұрын
I used to think he was sloppy and messed up. However after hearing how Eddie Van Halen had experienced the same thing from Jimmy live some information about Jim at that time came forward about a serious problem Jim had after either a car accident or something where he had really hurt his wrist. (I can't recall the exact reason) and how instead of canceling the tour that year he went on with it yet his playing suffered massively. It was at Zeps highest heights and a lot of footage was shot of him during that time as well so many saw him playing severely impaired because of his wrist. I've seen him now during other years and he's not one bit sloppy or messy.😮❤
@caramanico1
15 күн бұрын
Oh, I've noticed. I have enough boots to document every period of Zep from 1968 to 1980. Yes, the sheer technical ability did slide, especially live. But I prefer to focus on how his songwriting continually changed and expanded. It only took seven years to go from Communication Breakdown (a blazing solo) to Achilles Last Stand (13 guitars overdubbed and orchestrated). 13 GUITAR TRACKS!
@verginithe
12 күн бұрын
Sloppy and all he still played the best solos live I've ever heard. He was not a boring guitarist.
@fredzep01
Күн бұрын
There's no two ways about, the man is a bona fide rock star for a genuine reason, but for me Every Zep performance never ever showed them in their best light, only their first TV shows were first rate, it's probably because the venues they played weren't conducive to rock, even soundgarden realised playing massive venues affected the bands overall sound, come the end SG did smaller shows just to get back the intimacy and the sound of their earlier days...
@green461
6 күн бұрын
How accurate you play an instrument has absolutely nothing to do with the art created with it, art is an expression, if it was meant to be cookie cutter perfect playing... any good player could make art.. not all musicians and players are artists... very few actually. Its like saying Rembrandt or Van Gogh were sloppy painters... lol.. the accusation is a representation of someone who knows nothing of art.
@ronlemons5316
9 күн бұрын
I've seen Led Zeppelin a number of times. As a guitarist and musician I agree with this. My 2 sons and I saw the Page Plant Tour at the old Omni in Atlanta in the early 2000's. It was a great concert with all the variety of musicians! But on one song in particular Page was doing a solo and was a full fret flat and played like that for some time! But the band played on. Plant just looked at the audience and just shrugged! They are obviously very close, and Plant's gesture just exemplified that, like what was he supposed to do?! Hahahaha!
@chavoxo50
28 минут бұрын
I prefer my rock stars high AF and inches from death.Why? Because I cant !
@AbandonedNorthJersey
17 күн бұрын
Some argue that a solo can be TOO clean and a little rawness sounds great live but a sloppy solo can get muffed up f'sho.
@MGuitarZ77
19 күн бұрын
This actually completely nails the timeline of Jimmy’s decline. An absolute beast of a live player until about 75 where you can hear the slop start to creep in. By 77 he was a wreck. While there was still the occasional gem where he was vintage Jimmy….he was a shadow of himself. But he did rebound nicely in the late 80’s and played solid until after his tour with the Black Crows. Look up any of the gigs from 98. Absolute fantastic playing.
@michaelleong5351
22 күн бұрын
If I had JP’s talent for songwriting and guitar orchestration- wouldn’t be worried. Made his multi millions, still getting royalties as a new generation listens to LZ.
@TheLowerNard-sc6rq
5 күн бұрын
After you've achieved what you wanted, got everything you wanted, you can do whatever you want, ALMOST. The legacy is always the way you left it, so if you tarn it, you better clean it up. I hope Jimmy remembers that
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