If there's one thing I respect about Aggregor, it's how methodical and patient he is. Imagine how long it must have taken him to figure out where all the pieces of the Map were, what protections they had and which specific Aliens he would need to get all of them.
@rumle5
2 жыл бұрын
Greg is one of the scarier types of villain, the patient type. He knows he's gonna win, he knows how to get his power, all he has to do is wait and the universe will be his
@kingpiye7060
2 жыл бұрын
He's a little generic and one dimensional though which is okay if executed properly and can be pretty intimidating in its own right.
@rorysainsbury6816
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingpiye7060 He did play them pretty well into his own hands. Just think about it, he was able to get Ben and the gang to do all the heavy work in each episode to get the pieces of the map, and then when they finally had the piece, he ends up revealing himself to them and battles them for the piece and steals it. Pretty generic, but the way he displayed it was pretty badass!
@ardzzz1010
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingpiye7060 I would say his motive is generic, but his methods and personality makes him a somewhat unique villain.
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
@@rorysainsbury6816 I fell that was pretty forced, they are always nerfed when fighting agregor.
@VaultN95
2 жыл бұрын
"You're too late, Ben Tennyson, I have reached the ULTIMATE MARKETABLE TRANSFORMATION!"
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
*laughs for like two seconds before lol Soledad buildings crash down upon him* “Oh my gawwd! Oh my Gawwd!!! What the FUUU- *Ben throws more buildings at him* Aaaaughh!”
@shawerful5209
7 ай бұрын
To be fair ultimate greg, is really badass
@xero1048
2 жыл бұрын
I am always astonished at how little ultimate aliens we actually got in ultimate alien. Like the creators had so many aliens to work with, and such a great idea to go off, and yet we only got a handful of ultimate forms.
@remanjecarter2787
2 жыл бұрын
What if it was implying greg was the ultimate alien
@Genesis-XE
2 жыл бұрын
the series is called "Ultimate Alien" and we barely get any Ultimate forms.
@LucyWest370
2 жыл бұрын
@@remanjecarter2787 hes not even in season 3 bro
@zeph8082
2 жыл бұрын
some aliens could’ve gotten such fire ultimates too and maybe it could’ve been a chance to bring back classic aliens by giving them an ultimate
@tatersalad76
2 жыл бұрын
What if the real Ultimate Alien, was the friends we made along the way
@louiss.9264
2 жыл бұрын
The writers think of the most atrocious smoothie flavors, clearly meant as a joke and Kuro is really just like "yeah, I'd try it"
@zeldafan6124
2 жыл бұрын
Well, Greg Heffley is a pretty good villains in his own right, so Ultimate Greg should be an even better villain
@toxic_shr00m
2 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Rodrick would be unstoppable
@starseeker3002
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Ultimate Manny
@FMK03
2 жыл бұрын
Since base Greg Heffley is a psychopath, imagine how Ultimate Greg Heffley would turn out.
@Friskydeez2358
2 жыл бұрын
@@FMK03 The joker with super Powers
@curtisleblanc5897
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh. Imagine what an asshole the actual Greg Heffley would become if his dna was put through the ultimate feature
@100-People
2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that Paradox told Ben not to lean against the barrier, because adding young Ben to the party was important to beating Aggregor It’s just as he said, Ben wouldn’t have listened even if he did tell him
@spaghettiisgreat2784
2 жыл бұрын
As Paradox says, "timing is everything".
@Stargazer_Ley
2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, apparently that needed to happen so young Ben would see Teen Kevin being a good guy and have that sliver of trust that Kevin can be a good person. So if Ben were paying attention and didn't do that thing then there might have been some problems down the line. Not that the "Kevin can be good" thing stops Ben from jumping to "yup death" later though.
@FMK03
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stargazer_Ley I mean, Ultimate Kevin did go on to leave a man covered in casts, settle scores violently, and hurt the Plumbers' Helpers.
@Stargazer_Ley
2 жыл бұрын
@@FMK03 true but his mind was entirely his own at the time and Ben knew that.
@FMK03
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stargazer_Ley No, it wasn't. He had literally absorbed both the Ultimatrix and Aggregor's mutated form (as in he absorbed their energy), which in UAF and the OS, makes Osmosians go crazy.
@harryblocks
2 жыл бұрын
Aggregor saying he didn't feel a thing after that brutal beat down was just chilling
@overman9336
3 ай бұрын
He lied to get emotional power aganist ben.
@doubledamn2599
2 жыл бұрын
If Space-Time Stability is already thin at Los Soledad, that could be why the Highbreed set up the warpgate there. Less power required to open the space bridge.
@GreenDiablo
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Greg does get away to Osmos-5, but it's just empty space. Even the Greg-bot is confused. Cut to Servantis, Swift's telling him "Uh, sir. Somebody went to the fake Osmos coordinates" "What, who? Aggregor? That asshole, he's still alive?"
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
lol that'd be perfect.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
ben and company show up with the rust bucket II to confront greg, but when they get into the command deck he’s in the fetal position surrounded by a bunch of sprawled noted and photos. “Alright aggregor it’s time to-woah! Dude are you good? What’s going on?” “A lie, it’s…All a lie.” “What’s a lie?” “OSMOS V, osmosians! my home…MY LIFE!! it’s not here, it was never here It didn’t even exist! Who, who am I?!” Ben and gwen cringe, while Kevins just digesting the information as well. They all look to max who just shrugs in confusion as well. Even the andromeda aliens are staying awkwardly silent as greg starts crying. Cept pan’dor who snickers a bit.
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Pandor: Ha! He's having an existential crisis. In all honesty though, that was a pretty stupid retcon that _really_ stretches suspension of disbelief. Like, what? So Aggregor somehow got that ship, those robots, found out about the Map of Infinity, then calculated and tracked down and acquired all the aliens with abilities he would need in order to attain said map, _and_ identified and acquired the tech that would maximize absorption potential to permanently and completely absorb all their powers all in the span of, like, five years at most? Of all the retcons in the franchise, _this_ is the biggest load of bullshit to me. That's why Omniverse isn't apart of my headcanon.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
10 ай бұрын
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets”But but but, Kevin being just a mutant make the world being cool and not some stupid alien” Yeah, so how’s the aggreggor story buddy? “We never get to see it anyway so it doesn’t count” Yeah that’s what I thought.
@scottchaison1001
7 ай бұрын
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ecWhat are you talking about?
@Truck-kun11
2 жыл бұрын
Aggregor has that same intimidating vibe as Vilgax from Classic Ben 10, except what really sets Aggregor apart is how practical he is. He is always 3 steps ahead of others, never acts without a plan, and always waits for the opportunity to act.
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
Kind true. But I also fell the protagonists are pretty nerfed when they fight him.
@erikbihari3625
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigor.2847not to mention why such hassle rounding up, stealing their powers if he just let's our heroes do the heavy lifting anyway? They've stopped kevin's mutation!
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like og vilgax was *waay* more practical then aggregor, Given the circumstances of each if his battles with ben then.
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah, the problem its that og vilgax was in a episodic cartoon and like any other villain he needed to lose someway, the characters always needed some plot armor to defeat og vilgax.
@erikbihari3625
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigor.2847 I never felt like there was, they persevered through the cards dealt to them. Besides maybe if Man of action could've stick around for the rest of wouldn't be such a patchwork franchise!
@YoItsMatt
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing about the episode ordering for this show: by all accounts the official order is Fused (which ends with Greg escaping on foot with Raad), Hero Time (which takes place over several days), and Ultimate Aggregor (which begins with Greg still on foot with Raad). Never found solid proof, but it feels like Hero Time and Fused are supposed to be switched - otherwise the all-powerful Greg apparently just waltzed through Bellwood for half a week undetected in broad daylight.
@TheInkTank
2 жыл бұрын
I'm accepting that Greg walked through Bellwood for half a week just because that'd be hilarious.
@albedo5455
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheInkTank "I'll be taking a piss in a nearby bush, Ra'ad. Do not try to escape."
@infinityalbi9840
10 ай бұрын
Not to mention that it feels like Hero Time should also come before Duped, right? With how Julie feels about Ben.
@wolftaro950
Ай бұрын
Imagine a man casually carrying a giant jellyfish around which can also talk in broad daylight
@RaidensBoobies17
2 жыл бұрын
What I love about Ben 10 is that when theres a two part episodes is that they dont just call pt 2 all the time like in the Ghostfreak return, Good vs Evil Bens, Ultimate Greg/Map of Infinity and The End of an Era/A New Dawn. Technicaly the Dagon finale is a three parter Beginning of the end and Ultimate Enemy pt 1 & 2
@pathumdilhara7831
2 жыл бұрын
Beginning of the end is my favourite episode.
@jadethenidoran
2 жыл бұрын
This episode came out 10/10/10? That's. Pretty satisfying for an important episode
@timedragon5492
2 жыл бұрын
I really hope the next episode gets a full breakdown, if only for Humungosaur's savagely iconic beatdown on Greg.
@rafaelconstantino9736
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, i agree
@diputsnoob3815
2 жыл бұрын
He should goes ultimate. In this episode, he went ultimate to scare of crowd of people and fight nameless goons but not against main boss Imagine ult humungousaur pounding ult greg, but greg just wakes up and one shot ult humungasaur
@themanofsteel7385
2 жыл бұрын
@@diputsnoob3815 ı think Ult. Humungosaur could have won
@drxshock6957
2 жыл бұрын
Next episode is a season opener so it'll get a full breakdown
@UsernameUsername0000
2 жыл бұрын
@@themanofsteel7385 He wouldn’t. Aggregor has P’andor’s impenetrable suit, Bivalvin’s exoskeleton, Andreas’ armor and Galapagus’ shell. This all adds up to invulnerability.
@fresh10
2 жыл бұрын
Seeing Ultimate Aggregor beat Humoungasaur's face in like that was a little traumatizing lol
@krishnakapadia146
2 жыл бұрын
Although whenever people talk about Ultimate Alien they mostly praise Ultimate Kevin but I as a kid was so fascinated seeing Ultimate Greg and I liked him more than Vilgax Really love this episode 🤩🤩
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
Aggregor was always a meh villain to me.
@Lifeishandleand
2 жыл бұрын
Same else og vilgax no one can is better then og vilgax
@an-animal-lover
2 жыл бұрын
And yet you don't take him seriously enough to use the proper damn name
@naimishtiakahmed9221
2 жыл бұрын
For me personally Aggregor, Khaybar & Kevin are my most favourite villains. Also Dr. Animo is also on the top because I like his gag & he is very consistent. I never liked Vilgax as much. He was ver intimidating in Classic series but that was pretty much it.
@duncananderson2113
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah OG Vilgax is awesome but my favorite villain is Albedo.
@boredguy6970
2 жыл бұрын
Calling Aggregor “Greg” is my second favorite gag in these breakdown, right behind Ben 10,000 say “Kevin?”.
@ironicallyedgey9920
2 жыл бұрын
My main issue with Greg is that his ultimate design features P'andor so little, it's just the dinky little "necklace". It's also just dawned on me that Los Soladad is just UAF's version of Tatooine from Star Wars, literally everything important happens there for absolutely no reason
@furkanudmir550
2 жыл бұрын
well the time portal is there its easy to make a base
@rbraunbeck96
2 жыл бұрын
An old abandoned military base is a good place to do stuff without attracting attention from the general public
@samdalseide5060
2 жыл бұрын
The circle on Ultimate Greg’s chest is also from P’andor.
@DemonArshan
2 жыл бұрын
I don't thinks that's an issue, As long as he's utilizing the powers good, Keep in mind each of us would have different styles for like almost all of the aliens so it's a matter of "personal preference" really.
@curtisleblanc5897
2 жыл бұрын
Los Soledad is an isolated abandoned military base Tattooine is "desert planet" they are not the same
@Trunks1stApprentice
2 жыл бұрын
Small nitpick: Ultimate Swampfire being weak to electricity doesn't make much sense to me. Wood can serve as a conductor of electricity. Not the BEST conductor, but a conductor. It's why Pokémon says that Grass-types resist Electric-type attacks. If anything, Ultimate Swampfire should be RESISTANT to electricity, and possibly even immune if he dug into the ground and discharged it that way.
@infinityalbi9840
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, have you seen what happens to a tree when it gets struck by lightning?
@Trunks1stApprentice
10 ай бұрын
@@infinityalbi9840 I have, actually. It splits. So it's not like Ultimate Swampfire being weak to electricity makes NO sense whatsoever. It just makes less sense than I think was intended.
@theking8347
2 жыл бұрын
"makes his way to Osmos V" It's funny now that Aggregor was headed to Osmos V, because given the retcon in Omniverse, that means he was headed to a planet that doesn't exist. So if his original plan hinged on taking the Andromedia aliens to Osmos V, then it was doomed to fail from the start.
@cartoonishidealism582
2 жыл бұрын
Aggregor travels to Osmos 5, finds nothing there, then the plot shifts to him having an existential crisis
@SpectacularSpidey670
2 жыл бұрын
Serventis forgot to add that on his mind lmao
@justindeliwe8065
2 жыл бұрын
@@SpectacularSpidey670 No, Servantis(according to Derrick J Wyatt) had erased Aggregor's memories so all that he remembers are just fake memories
@axelnilsson5124
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not funny it’s just hard to buy that Osmos V doesn’t exist in the context of ultimate alien
@shawerful5209
7 ай бұрын
Ben 10 retcons rivalizes with comic book retcons.
@falconknight4964
2 жыл бұрын
The Andromeda 5 and Greg’s constant wins throughout ultimate alien is really what got me hooked on it overall. As a kid, I love the 5 for their powers and how it lined up with the classic elements and how each one has their own character. Seeing the aliens as their own I think is what draws me into Ben 10 the most nowadays, with one of my favorite villains from the earlier season being Ghostfreak, another alien who we see past just being another one of Ben’s transformations. And with Greg essentially collecting them all back to actually succeed in achieving an ultimate like status was just really cool honestly. He is one dimensional and certainly seems to have a lot of technology, but the overall arc just made it really amazing to watch as a kid
@frankspick7544
Ай бұрын
gregs wins is what turn me off from the arc.being how they felt so unearned.
@Animogx
2 жыл бұрын
For that Magnetic shield, check out Magneto's powers, I was surprised to learn just how much can be done with magnetic powers. Honestly makes me wish more was explored with Lodestar's transformation
@l0sts0ul89
2 жыл бұрын
Magneto could pull the planet apart if he wanted too is crazy, he pulled a bullet the size of a moon or something through space
@TheTrentkent
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment like there’s a reason magneto is an omega lvl mutant like lodestar honestly should be busted lol unstoppable dang near
@StanHanrahan
2 жыл бұрын
“Greg” 😂😭 I love it 😂😂
@littlemisstfc
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, one of the divisive villains in the Ben 10 franchise: *Greg.*
@damienofthedamned
2 жыл бұрын
*Deep breaths* - Plumbers: We're woke about appendages! - Pierce's girlfriend: Ultimate Stalker. - Can you imagine how tired Ben must be school? - Not gonna lie, the Servantis shit makes me wanna cry towards this episode. If there is no Osmos V, where are they going? If there is no Devin Levin, who's badge is tht? I want answers, dammit! - Say what you will, this show knows how to fuck with your perception of reality. I mean, I never once imagined "reality literally breaking like glass"
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
Being a primeval fan, I guess i’m rather use to the image if reality breaking like glass.
@mentalmandolorian5723
2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one in the show does what Kuro does to describe Aggragor "I am Aggragor, destroyer of-" "OK Greg" "What? no! That's not my-" "Too late, changed your contact in my phone now"
@tVt2000
2 жыл бұрын
This insinuates the team has access to their villains phone numbers
@mentalmandolorian5723
2 жыл бұрын
@@tVt2000 just gotta imagine someone like sublimino calling the trio all like "Ben Tennyson, it is I-" and then just gets hung up on
@robertkovarna8294
2 жыл бұрын
Truly the reason Greg wanted to absorb an Alien Xs power. To make sure people don't call him Greg.
@Mid-Tier-Man9256
2 жыл бұрын
@@tVt2000 With how Vilgax was treated in AF it wouldn't surprise me
@mentalmandolorian5723
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mid-Tier-Man9256might I ask, just how groovy are you?
@gf1006
2 жыл бұрын
My Dad used to download Ultimate Alien episodes illegally because they didn't release for 6 months in the UK. I remember him being super excited when this episode aired and really desperate to watch it with my brother and I (aged 8 and 6 respectfully) - he was 41 at the time
@SumTr011
7 ай бұрын
Underrated comment, based dad
@МолчаливыйКлинок
2 жыл бұрын
My hedcanon is that Ultimatrix just has awful lock on the dial, so any time Ben shakes his hand it can randomly pop up. It must be really annoying for Ben.
@admiralbluelion4541
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was strange that The headband worked on NRG even though he was in his armor so it didn’t have a connection to his head
@axelnilsson5124
2 жыл бұрын
When Ben transforms into NRG he also has the armor so that would imply that the armor of prypiatosian-Bs are organic similarly to ultimate humungousaur and ultimate cannonbolt
@admiralbluelion4541
2 жыл бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 the armor can be cut open so it isn’t a part of his body his body is inside this armor Ben also transforms with the armor because it is a safety measure it should not allow a direct connection to the brain so that he can be controlled through the headband
@Madkendler
2 жыл бұрын
The lack of actual ultimate aliens probably has something to do with that dropped story line they hinted at.
@demondoggo2768
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin being smart should not come as a shock to ben & gwen considering he works a part time job as a car mechanic ( which requires him to be knowledgable in both chemistery and physics ) in AF S3 ( &2 if i'm not mistaken ) and has also had numerous scenes dedicated to him nerding out over alien-tech at this point if that wasn't enough kevin also spent years on the streets trading smuggled alien tech
@austinmccormick8952
2 жыл бұрын
Max shouting It's a trap! Really works for me
@justindeliwe8065
2 жыл бұрын
3:50 This is just me but i think he would have just gone to a mysterious uninhabited planet that possibly the Rooters marked as Osmos V to hide the fact that Osmosians do not exist.
@Bertiboy
2 жыл бұрын
But he acknowledges that Osmosians are still a culture that exists, they even have their own laws. Did he just not find it strange that he never found a single other Osmosian on the planet?
@soundblaster3852
2 жыл бұрын
True
@justindeliwe8065
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bertiboy i mean its probably just knowledge that Servantis put in his mind
@BeastForce141
2 жыл бұрын
Greg was mentioned in Omniverse when Baumann girlfriend appeared and Incursion invasion, but never returned.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
I thought aggregor was implied dead.
@jacobwiggers
2 жыл бұрын
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 I think I remember a quote saying that he was in the Null Void but I could be wrong lol
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobwiggers Oh ok.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
I think OV ben bragged to kyhber about fighting him too but i’m not sure.
@harpybeagle4931
Ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55that was Dagon
@kaankarcan558
2 жыл бұрын
9:58 I think that is why omniverse not wasting time with transformations is better. Even though I like the transformation scenes, they are treated with so much importance. Omniverse Ben transforming is so common and natural that what they do is more appearant than just being transformed into.
@big-up-tobies
2 жыл бұрын
The few transformations OV has are really good animation wise but very weirdly spaced such as the nemetrix episode randomly having a heatblast full transformation
@Alpha121198
2 жыл бұрын
18:24 Grandpa Max coming in clutch with the classic Infinite Tennyson Strength feat.
@philkirshenbaum8867
2 жыл бұрын
8:50 I think he’s speaking more metaphorically when he says “My Dad’s badge”. He kinda views the job as his inheritance and the badge as part of that inheritance.
@aaronalkor
2 жыл бұрын
17:08 A mace with spikes, is a spiked mace. A mace without spikes is either a regular mace or a type of club
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
My problem with agregor is that while intimidating, most of his battles fell forced, ben kevin and gwen are always nerfed when they fight him. It honestly remembers the nonsensical ways vilgax was defeated in the classic series, just doesnt make sense.
@LoneWolf-on8ht
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! My another complaints is that Greg ALWAYS getting away with the Map of Infinity pieces every single time.
@ardzzz1010
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolf-on8ht that's bc aggregor is using the trio to do the dirty work for him to get all the pieces of map of infinity.
@gamingapocalypse7973
2 жыл бұрын
Ben could have turned way big anytime and crushed him but we need plot I guess.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
@@ardzzz1010 Dude that's just plot armor stop acting like it ain't.
@au7923
2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingapocalypse7973 That's another plot hole, Ben could use waybig to beat him, but he doesn't for some reason.
@failmeep5167
2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that Aggregor was never called Greg in the show. Truly, a missed opportunity.
@ILoveLuhaidan
2 жыл бұрын
Why does he call him greg? I literally have no idea
@MarshallLeeA
2 жыл бұрын
If the stakes weren't so high, I bet Ben would have definitely called him Greg
@noafyothesnakeperson
2 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveLuhaidan Because AgGREGor
@connorst184
2 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveLuhaidan agGREGor
@calmsquirrel7124
2 жыл бұрын
Edited ending: aggregator gets the power from the alien x baby, but ben turns into ultimate alien x, and defeats him, then makes him believe his name is Greg instead, then the story ends
@starseeker3002
2 жыл бұрын
Ok so about the ultimate forms, my thoughts on them is that they should actually have been used very sparingly, like only when they were well and truly needed. I know that's kind of a curveball but I think they would have been better if it ment something special every time they were used
@jbcatz5
2 жыл бұрын
Time Heals from Alien Force season three also provides a reason why time travel isn’t used to solve problems, although only Gwen and Paradox (depending on if he’s experienced that episode yet) know of that incident because Ben and Kevin were using Gwen’s family TV to watch sports while she travelled. That episode did have multiple Gwens interacting without triggering a Blinovitch Limitation Effect, but the second time could be because she was negating the Hex takeover timeline by preventing her initial interference in the attempted Omnitrix hacking.
@hiitsalex6780
2 жыл бұрын
Question: What happened to Gwen's magic messing up technology? In the Busy Box? If her mana can affect level 20+ magic, why can it affect Greg's technology?
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
Plot armor. They are always nerfed against agregor
@curtisleblanc5897
2 жыл бұрын
I mean. with this said I think it's just the blowtorch from _Fame_ all over again
@UsernameUsername0000
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigor.2847 Her magic never affected any technology in any other episode. I’d argue Busy Box was the exception, not the standard. If she couldn’t scathe Highbreed tech throughout an entire arc, I don’t see why it should affect this apparatus. Plus, it would be disadvantageous to mess with the machinery given what Paradox said about active entropy pumps.
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
@@UsernameUsername0000 why not teleport the machine or the aliens?
@UsernameUsername0000
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigor.2847 Now that’s a good gotcha, but she has never been shown to teleport machinery, especially when it was said that her mana is weaker around them.
@chris-tianmothman
2 жыл бұрын
My biggest pet peeve in UA is when Ben uses ultimate aliens for insignificant conflicts other aliens or even the normal versions of the ultimates could handle, such as when Ultimate Big Chill was used on pickaxe robots or on the paparazzi, Ultimate Wildmutt being used for Prisoner 775 of all people, or Ultimate Humungousar beating the criminals in Too Hot To Handle. All the while, we get very few ultimates and very few appearances from said ultimates, so the gimmick is essentially wasted by the end of UA.
@saorlathesurly
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the device Aggregor places his hands on to absorb the Andromeda Five's energy might be based on the Mutant Conversion Machine from the first X-Men movie. The apparatus looks very similar, at least. In a similar vein, Kevin pushing through the shockwaves and having his armor peeling off might be a reference to Wolverine pushing through Phoenix's telekinetic shockwave at the end of X-Men: The Last Stand. They might both be coincidences, but two possible visual references to the same film series in the one scene strikes me as just a bit unlikely to not be intentional.
@jadenbryant9283
2 жыл бұрын
It could be that
@trenageddon6465
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said about Kevins character Sometimes I feel like the writers focused the most on Kevins character which is why some of the other characters aren't as well written or Inconsistent They seem to care the most about Kevin for some reason
@curtisleblanc5897
2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember if I commented on this in your "Hero Time" review but I'll say it again here. the Ultimate Humungo transformation in that episode was, imo, the perfect execution for the ultimate concept. throughout most of the episode Ben mainly used based Alien forms because all he really used them for was to stop a fake kidnapping and for friendly competition with Captain Nemesis (while still idolizing him). But when Ben finds out Nesmith kidnapped someone he holds dear he goes *straight* into Ultimate mode because he was 100% serious. Basically this main idea for execution of the Ultimate Feature throughout the show can be summed up by what Spidermonkey says in _Fame_ " There's a time to go hero and there's a time to go Ultimate. " What really cheeses me is times when he goes ultimate but really doesn't have to. Which brings us to this episode Going Ultimate Big Chill to scare off fans was OVERKILL to such a point that it feels out of character for Ben (again, in _Fame_ he uses Humungousaur to scare reporters, not Ultimate Humungosaur to scare the reporters (and himself)) Even if he went into a base form of an alien as powerful as Big Chill it would seem like overdoing it, but in character for Ben. Then we get the proper execution later in the episode. When Team Tennyson agree to Kevins idea to keep the air force out of it because they'd just get in the way and Ben says "We can go all out" and turns into Swampfire Gwen has to REMIND him that "going all out" means going Ultimate (almost as if Ben was hesitant to use another Ultimate so soon after using one before or just hesitant to use one at all because of what the process feels like for him.) Anyway, fans and reporters do NOT warrant Ultimate Form use but Aggrebots taking over Los Soledad and Greg being so close to absorbing the Andromeda 5 warrants IMMEDIATE Ultimate transformation (like Ultimate Humungo in "Hero Time") P.S. Ultimate Humungo vs Ultimate Greg is also an "Ultimate Time" moment. because base Humungo is probably nothing to Ultimate Greg
@Alphaanims
2 жыл бұрын
‘Greg’ was a great villain in my opinion, kinda disappointed OV decided to butchered the plot-line developed with him. But his Ultimate form was kinda sick, lacked a lil bit NRG in it tho
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
Eh I think he's just trying too hard to be Classic series Vilgax.
@SonGoku-qn1nc
2 жыл бұрын
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Nah
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
@@SonGoku-qn1nc Aggregor always has plot armor for no reason he wins in some nonsensical ways the trio is basically nerfed when fighting aggregor the map of infinity arc is just the trio losing the map of infinity every time because what aggregor has plot armor? And Ben just never tries to go waybig against him or ultimate for that matter.
@shadowyghost2330
2 жыл бұрын
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Oh great. The holier than thou OV fan who defends the bad plotlines too.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowyghost2330 Sir???
@andrewleyton6689
2 жыл бұрын
8:27 I read this on the wiki so I don't know how much true this is, but apparently for them to fit that in the OV retcon in early stages of the rooters of all evil, he was going to be reveal to be an experiment to duplicate kevin's powers, so Kevin feeling guilt can be servantis kicking in
@justindeliwe8065
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a statement from Derrick J Wyatt on Askfm and he said that "no one could work up the enthusiam to do an Ag story".
@andrewleyton6689
Жыл бұрын
@@justindeliwe8065 honestly could anyone want to?
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
10 ай бұрын
@@andrewleyton6689I could.
@ellisclark7016
2 жыл бұрын
The one thing that I noticed at 10:27, lobstar’s mouth opens when he does his magnet shield like he did in the ‘video game’ episode breakdown that kuro did with kellen.
@RenSenpai7
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. I just gotta. Dawg! The intro! Just seeing your avatar run up Ben style. Love it. Bet ya love it too, Kuro. Been watchin these episodes along with the breakdowns, which has been a great time. Here we goooo Hero Time!
@X21XXI
2 жыл бұрын
Aggregor was such a frustrating villain, I hated the way he'd almost always show up towards the end of nearly every episode after Ben and friends become exhausted from overcoming the numerous deadly obstacles trying to obtain some mcguffin (map of infinity pieces) only for him to basically take it from them with some lazy explanation of how he 'somehow' just managed to get there or be there after seeing how near impossible it was for the heroes to do the same, it became predictable and I'd get annoyed at Ben and everyone else for not realizing the fact.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It was so ridiculous aggregor had plot armor all the way through it was just frustrating how'd they'd nerf the main trio just for aggregor to escape every time. And the fact that not one of the main trio decided to stay with one of the andromeda five.
@thomasraines1396
2 жыл бұрын
That does sound like crap.
@thepokesannin4434
2 жыл бұрын
Broooo, when this man Ben fumbled the last piece of the map because he was too stubborn to escape with it and ended up getting bodied by aggregor i was so blown 🤦🏾♂️
@pathumdilhara7831
2 жыл бұрын
Do not try to change that. It is how it is. Just remember how cool this arc and Ultimate Aggregore is.
@justindeliwe8065
2 жыл бұрын
14:30 For me, i always thought he meant that the more you time travel the more vulnerable the timeline is to the butterfly effect because we often see that when our characters time travel its not just the big things that get altered but its also small things (for example when Gwen tried to alter the timeline in AF season 3, and Hex became its ruler, like i choose to believe its the butterfly effect just because theres not way to explain Hex randomly knowing Gwen changed the timeline without it being the butterfly effect of Hex sensing it somehow). And Paradox saying "its already paper thin" made me believe that if anyone time travel there again they can even affect the layout of the military base if they werent careful.
@pkpyro2000
2 жыл бұрын
I recently learned it’s possible to introduce a chemical into fire that when burning will make it cold and can even freeze things and it’s safe to touch. I guess Ultimate BigChill works the same way
@_Tzer
11 ай бұрын
18:31 the return of the legendary tennyson strength.
@noimead988
2 жыл бұрын
In regards to Lodestar's field that he made, it seems likely that he is using the repellent effect that magnets have against the robots, which are probably made of metal
@chidaluokoro9104
2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of a magneto
@xero1048
2 жыл бұрын
So I’ve got a question. We know the ultimatrix does not create prime aliens like the omnitrix, it just recreates the being it got it’s dna from. My question however is, how does this effect previous forms? Are the forms Ben used with the original omnitrix still prime counterparts when using them with the ultimatrix? Is it only additional aliens added that are not prime forms?
@schemar17
2 жыл бұрын
Only the omnitrix in omniverse turns ben into prime versions of his aliens
@MarshallLeeA
2 жыл бұрын
@@schemar17 But Four Arms was at the same level as Tiny in classic
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
@@schemar17 the og series was suppose to do this to I thought. Since ben wolf was able to talk while the Yenaldooshi could not. Cannonbolt was also the one to defeat the tick despite that species failing to do so.
@macle5007
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 the orignal had many glitches and it only worked certain times
@matijasostojic4288
2 жыл бұрын
@@MarshallLeeA Well he is a 10 year old version of the species. Tiny might be older. Im pretty sure kuro even makes a joke about it in the break down.
@jasperjavillo686
2 жыл бұрын
8:45 He probably just means it’s the same type of badge his father carried, and now he’s carrying it. It’s not about the badge, it’s the responsibility attached to it.
@SrPaisano
2 жыл бұрын
He was alright but all of his plots were basically just monster of the week plots that all end with Greg winning. He definitely just felt like an excuse to give Ben new aliens and have a segway to Ultimate Kevin (which is a lot better).
@misterdewott8766
2 жыл бұрын
It honestly felt like they nerfed the Ben Team just so he could win the entire time. Then when he loses he's never seen again.
@darkhelmet87
2 жыл бұрын
As for greg- personally, I would've replaced him with Kevin 11,000, in something similar to Danny phantom the ultimate enemy. Sometime in alien force the team gets pulled into the ben 10k timeline. Upon meeting 11k, Kevin instantly hates him. Trying to kill Ben and Gwen is bad enough, but learning how he treated his potential son Devlin clinches Kevin hating his counterpart. For his part, 11k sees his heroic self, his friendship with Ben and relationship with Gwen as the funniest thing he's hever seen. After being defeated by both teams of heroes, 11k somehow ends up in the uaf timeline, drained of his original powers but seeing it as a new start against a younger Ben. He returns in ultimate alien to replace his powers with the Andromeda 5, going for quality over quantity, planning to go for the infinity map/forge of creation, not strictly for the power, but to show he's still a major threat and to cause as much chaos as possible. He could even use agreggor as a code name, wanting his comeback to be a surprise. That and I think there would be great back and forth between the 2 kevins
@ghoulchan7525
2 жыл бұрын
Write that fanfic mate
@cabin7slytherpuffempath
4 ай бұрын
I would absolutely read this.
@zanderthepyro8858
2 жыл бұрын
i've just realised something with paradox, if he new ben as an adult in the alienforce episode he is introduced in, that means there is a time when paradox appears to adult ben, and won't know who he is, because in his own timeline, it would be the first time he has met him
@giboit.
2 жыл бұрын
You know something that never made sense to me? They went out of their way to make a completely new character that works in the military like Colonel Rozum when they could´ve easily give more continuity to the original series by having Lieutenant Steel be the one that appeared in the show again instead. And considering that he was already familiar with Ben and with the "weird cases" it would´ve made much more sense to be him the one that was put in charge of it.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@sau7255
2 жыл бұрын
Aggregor is one of the underrated villains. He was literally almost 1 step ahead of the whole gang. But in the episode perplexahedron, ben got the 4th part to the map of infinity, and had a chance to go and escape with it, but he decided to bluntly fight aggregor. If that did not happen, aggregor would not have had access to the forge that fast.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the thing though, every time he felt ahead it always felt more like the plot allowed him to do that. Or that he was being lazy in letting the gang do wall the work for him. He’s always just had a cowardly, distinterested vibe to him.
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 indeed he was pretty forced.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Indeed he felt super forced. He always had plot armor on his side.
@rodrigor.2847
2 жыл бұрын
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 sadly all the series are full of plot armor. Its hard to take anything serious.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigor.2847 Yeah I guess. But it's like aggregor is the most obvious character to tell has plot armor.
@eziarc2080
2 жыл бұрын
Was surprised to hear Yuri Lowenthal in Persona but oddly fitting to have him voice a guy who can harness the power of multiple beings
@ghoulchan7525
2 жыл бұрын
I think he did a few voices in those games. Also Alucard in Castlevania symphony of the night psp port. Which all re-releases now are based on... Still weird because i hear Ben coming through a few times while I'm playing that.
@curtisleblanc5897
2 жыл бұрын
15:51 To be completely honest Kuro. I would pay for a spin-off series that's just Paradox's point of view and the other adventures he has outside of Ben 10.
@talphazero1036
2 жыл бұрын
5:54 Big Chill looks dope as fuck like this! Angelic wing look with the hood still on is something I wish we got to see more of
@catguy5425
2 жыл бұрын
I think Kevin saying the badge used to be his dad's, and now it's his, is supposed to be metaphorical. Like, it used to be his dad's job, now it's Kevin's job. The badge is just a representation, a symbol of that job.
@Mirrorcomics24
2 жыл бұрын
I liked agregor but personally Kevin outshined him
@berylredburrow__8810
2 жыл бұрын
21:15 Don't be silly Kuro, waybig isn't allowed to be useful in UAF.
@axelnilsson5124
2 жыл бұрын
Until season 3 at least
@SublimeLime
2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed this but when Ben asks Paradox about destroying the engine, Max looks like his stock image. He isn’t even looking at Paradox
@lesamuraiblan0469
Жыл бұрын
10:41 I feel like it's a reverse magnetic power like instead of attracting its actually pushing things away
@WhoopinWallaby
2 жыл бұрын
Just realized this episodes air date is October 10th 2010, Making the air date 10/10/10.
@dimitrismagoulianitis7856
2 жыл бұрын
Entropy as a concept in thermodynamics is what basically explains how the universe is naturally leaning towards chaos, and there are even principles that prevent the invention of stuff like a perpetual motion machine because basically there is a portion of energy that turns into heat and cannot be "reused" as productive energy. Now, an in-universe explanation as to what an entropy pump could function as is that osmossians are said to only gain 10% of their target's abilities when absorbing their energy, so probably the other 90% turns into heat. An entropy pump could "utilize" the remaining 90% of unusable energy that osmossians cannot naturally absorb and give it to Greg. Theoretically that violates a basic thermodynamics principle(unless it isn't actually 100% of their abilities), but I guess I'm overanalyzing.
@El_Keck
2 жыл бұрын
Here in South America, Ultimate Alien the series premiered on the Tenth of October of 2010 (10/10/10). Don't want to take away the status of this episode, but I believe we came out winning with the gimmick.
@ghoulchan7525
2 жыл бұрын
I think in my country we got the alien force finale that date. Either way i sat there watching tv that date.
@zumby101
2 жыл бұрын
You know whenever Kevin’s inconsistentcies in his back story come up I just fall back on the “alien x rebooting the universe caused it” fall back.
@Andrew-Bastin
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with that theory is it doesn’t account for all the inconsistencies prior to Omniverse
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
10 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-BastinSome celestial Saipan did it
@MrHrInm
2 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that lode star was so unused. He had so much potential. An alternating magnetic field generates an electric field. With this he couldve become such an op alien. Too bad…
@ianr.navahuber2195
2 жыл бұрын
Like Gravattack
@theefriend
2 жыл бұрын
15:44 I can't fully remember but, I don't think we have seen Professor Paradox's first meeting of the Ben 10 crew, (we saw their first meeting of Professor Paradox but not his). Every time we see the time walker, he knows more than the last meeting never less.
@6ImBatman9
2 жыл бұрын
My List of favorite Ultimate alien season 1 episodes 1) Too hot to handle 2) Hero time 3) Hit 'em Where they live 4) Video Games 5) Fused 6) Ultimate Aggregor 7) Fame 8) Andreas fault 9) Escape from aggregor 10) Duped
@drangc0bex119
2 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting Ultimate Gregory Heffley at the end
@Carnige32
2 жыл бұрын
10:33 , you’d be very surprised how much you can do with magnets with enough thinking and ingenuity, just look at magneto
@HeroicZ31
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't finished the video yet, but now I have a new quote from Kuro to use everywhere, that being: "Your sexism has failed Ben"
@footsoldier5178
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Lodestar’s shield thing is a magnetic shield. Like, it wouldn’t do anything against a person or a tree but because he was fighting metal robots it’s able to repel them
@TheInkTank
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good theory!
@haku1384
Жыл бұрын
4:22 thats why i love their friendship. they don’t take a lot too seriously. theres one episode where Gwen poors a smoothie on Bens head and Ben just laughs and almost does the same back to her
@Scrombo2
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that they shouldn't have retconned Kevins back story in Omniverse but, one thing I never liked about Kevin being an Osmosian was the idea that absorbing things made him crazy, it feels like a way to excuse his wrongdoings and make him a much less complex and interesting character
@yannismorris4772
2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel like it's *quite* an excuse for his actions but it does make you feel bad for the guy. On the one hand, Classic series Kevin was an asshole who categorically refused to take blame for any of his actions. On the other hand, he was a kid who was in a situation that can be described as being hooked on a hardcore drug that screws with your head hard. "Criminally insane" feels like an appropriate way to describe it. I feel like both these things can be true.
@Scrombo2
2 жыл бұрын
@@yannismorris4772 I've always preferred the interpretation that he was a kid, in a terrible situation, who fucked up yes but, alien force to me has more resonance if it wasn't just the power making him into a crazy asshole, but actively chose to start improving his life
@yannismorris4772
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scrombo2 I think that that read is actually what Alien Force was for Kevin. The whole "Energy absorption f**ks with your head" thing doesn't make it invalid for me. Agree to disagree?
@Scrombo2
2 жыл бұрын
@@yannismorris4772 not invalid, you're right it's not bad, just not as good
@Stargazer_Ley
2 жыл бұрын
But we do see that Kevin made the choice to improve himself. We see that he made the attempt to let go of his anger and to focus the use of his powers elsewhere. He learned that his abuse of his powers was harming him not only physically but mentally and made the choice to change. Both things are true. Kevin bettered himself and was essentially under the influence of a drug.
@DZR-O
Жыл бұрын
18:47 Ultimate Swampfire is half water of course he’s not gonna be able to handle electricity
@Driba_Edits
2 жыл бұрын
I loved greg as a villain, when he became ultimate greg I still liked him as a villain but something felt different
@nicholasrodinos4701
2 жыл бұрын
3:50 Part of me says that there could be *an* Osmosian planet, maybe some aliens kidnapped a bunch of Osmosians and eventually they escaped, and formed their own planet. This is more a weird head-canon, nothing more concrete.
@Neutral_Tired
2 жыл бұрын
Fun thing with Ultimate Big Chill is that his ice looks different to regular Big Chill. It's more solid and opaque.
@kingkaze399
2 жыл бұрын
When you click on a video thinking it one of the short reviews one to realize it a long one is one of the best feelings
@nbdevison
2 жыл бұрын
You missed an animation error at 16:20 where the ultimatrix goes over bens sleeve
@axelnilsson5124
2 жыл бұрын
It actually looks better like that
@idle_speculation
11 ай бұрын
13:54 Regarding entropy pumps, that paper is the only non-Ben 10 usage of the term I can find online, but I think it's basically being used as a metaphor to describe how life becomes more complex over time(since entropy is a measure of randomness, although in a physics sense it's more like matter slowly reaching a perfect, completely homogenous equilibrium). The important bit reads as follows: "It is my purpose here to show what I believe to be the answer to this seeming *paradox* (Coincidence? I think not...) and to describe the “entropy pump” whereby the species of living matter not only prevent a drop into a position of greater positive entropy at each generation, but may in fact acquire more negentropy as their reproduction continues."
@SpaceFluffDW
2 жыл бұрын
I heard Ultimate Greg is immune to the cheese touch
@aleatheltrashcan478
2 жыл бұрын
He is
@trenageddon6465
2 жыл бұрын
😭😭🤣Nah I'm done This Greg joke has the potential to become a great meme
@ZancralthePariah
2 жыл бұрын
I’m digging the new set up! Proud of your progress and I’m glad you’re still here making context that we all enjoy
@UltimateBurstLP
2 жыл бұрын
I would genuinely appreciate it more if Ultimate forms were something made really rare, which would give the crew more of a chance to make the visuals really hit home. Ultimates are supposed to be really powerful AND something Ben worries about- either due to the foreshadowing of them being alive or because of the nature of their creation and the ultimatrix in general- so it would make a lot of sense if it was something Ben reserved for dire straights, which would make it more compelling for the audience as well. I know the series was marketed on the ultimate forms but I think if there was more mystery and more of a buildup to what ultimate forms would look like, what their abilities would be and so on, it would land a lot harder and give them their deserved amount of impact. Right now it just feels like kind of a gimmick Ben uses at random as opposed to a genuine enhancement to his abilities. In this episode for instance, Ultimate Big Chill is totally wasted on a quick uneventful moment. If we only saw Ben using the ultimates when he was backed into a corner, that could help both make fights feel a bit more natural and increase the threat of villains by showing Ben on the back foot more often AND it would make every ultimate transformation feel more special. I genuinely think ultimates could have been something great and cool, and the concept of hyper-evolving a species into a combat-aggressive form is a really interesting concept with depth, but more than anything right now it feels like a gimmick to sell ultimate alien as its own show rather than a creative choice.
@t.i.5528
2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons Aggregor is a great villain IMO is just how competent he is. After Alien Force Vilgax (who I actually kinda like) suffered from villain decay, it's nice to have a villain that not only has a great thought out plan, but also wins in every episode and came an inch away from universal domination.
@strongerthanever2039
2 жыл бұрын
3:04 Oh, it's teleportation? I always assumed they were invisible lol
@theleonpasta7336
Жыл бұрын
Yooo, you guys should totally do an And Beyond on Osmos 5, it'd be amazing to learn more about the Osmosian species including their hierarchy, plus it'd be a neat place to include Ben obtaining his Osmosian transformation that someone on the ink tank (sorry, don't wanna credit the wrong person) drew as a commission (I believe, could be wrong), which looks awesome imo! I just love the creativeness of the 5yl aliens, they perfectly blend the best aspect from each series' alien designs, and even the ones that haven't shown up in the comic itself are amazing!!!
@HiperPivociarz
2 жыл бұрын
5:00 I feel like that's fine. Overnight celebrities rarely stay celebrities forever. People move on quick to a newer thing. It's actually a little meta how Ben's popularity slowly started to dwindle with time.
@jimbenzo
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like 3:48 is another point in the “Servantis was lying” column
@NightShroudYT
2 жыл бұрын
The things we see from Kevin not only in this episode but future episodes to come, really displays that level of maturity and growth from one of the greatest characters in the series. From him breaking down the crime scene like a boss, to him never losing focus or site of the mission and always having Bens back. I will say by the end of UAF, I would have to say I’m completely satisfied with Kevin’s character and how well they slowly evolved him in to the respectable, outgoing, funny and loving person we all know today. The fact that he’ll always stand by his friends side, and to always have their best interests at heart is some of the greatest qualities a person can have.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much the reasons why I don't like ultimate Kevin.
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