2 3/4 3s and 5s. Been shooting in for 3 seasons now, great multi use shell. Shot my first band with it last year!
@1991LPfan
11 ай бұрын
3" 3s and 5s for me. I shoot like a Stormtrooper from Star Wars, so I need all the help I can get!!
@paulowens6838
11 ай бұрын
3/5 Shorties. Only shells i use.
@Icehog1990
11 ай бұрын
3/5 3 inch 12 ga for me. Stoned a goose yesterday at 40 with it.
@underthetrees4780
11 ай бұрын
I don't have a favorite because I haven't converted yet, but I'm thinking 2 3/4" #5s for early season duck, and I might carry a 3" #3/5 for a surprise honker or for when I lack discipline and crack off long and late 3rd shots. Late season divers and geese l'll carry 2 3/4" #3/5, with that 3" #3/5 final shell, and if I do spring specks and snows I'd consider #4s, but probably end up just using 3/5s. I've always been a believer of sizing up your shells as you get into 2nd & 3rd shots.
@TheNewHuntersGuide
11 ай бұрын
This video warms my heart. Keep preaching the truth! Send 3.5" shells back to the marketing teams from whence they came!
@Pontiuspilate666
11 ай бұрын
Nice to see your comment here, two amazing channels!
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
Thanks George!!👍🏻👊🏻💪🏻
@chadamos7297
11 ай бұрын
Been using Boss for 3 seasons now. Killed big honkers with shorty #5’s. Cost was $240 per case, now $340 per case. Reason we were given was supply shortage. Doesn’t appear any manufacturer has supply chain issues, so will cost of ammo go down? Would love to hear Brandon’s input on that.
@BeatRock253
11 ай бұрын
The cost of their raw material and supplies have gone up.
@benlee7758
11 ай бұрын
@@BeatRock253but the cost of Hevi-12 has gone down? Makes no sense
@BeatRock253
11 ай бұрын
@@benlee7758 it was already over priced
@jonathanmelanson3257
11 ай бұрын
Rather have hevi-xii
@msb2948
7 ай бұрын
I felt boss was using a common fear factor to influence the recent purchase request by informing folks of an unbacked or unproven shortage of material? Our group here in North Texas tested and found that Hevi 12 was far superior in penetration and shot patterns. boss in the original offering was also routinely inconsistent in velocities and without buffers. Shot deformed even at its slower velocity. With their newer warchief with a buffer and supposed improved wad, one would have to assume it's better than the first offering except now it cost almost as much as Hevi 12 and they are in a different league than boss and they are truly worth it if you need the distance. Honestly Migra's stacked steel is even better than boss in pattern and quick kills over decoys. Word on many streets to the duck blind says boss doesn't like it if you experience differences than what they claim, even if you have evidence on a chronograph and a pattern board or a you tube channel and video the inconsistent performance. To me something is a little off with this company.
@ripphunter8657
11 ай бұрын
I’m really glad to see you posted again Joel! I was hoping to see more of you soon. God Bless
@janphillips6095
11 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back. I personally agree great product and a great place to visit My personal favorite is 3/5 2/3/4 inch 12 gauge.
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
Good stuff!
@Ca_Tule_Ninja
10 ай бұрын
Their pricing is through the roof now that the loads are so popular.
@tomshaw9983
11 ай бұрын
Great to see another episode Joel. I visited Boss' new show room last January. Loved it! Awesome folks at Boss and really helpful. Can you please share with us what brand 28 gauge you ordered?
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
Benelli Ethos Cordoba B.E.S.T. Just came in too!! Haven’t shot it yet.
@FactoryFowl
11 ай бұрын
@@SurvivingDuckSeasonwhat choke do and load do you plan on using? Have the same gun but can’t find a pattern I like.
@michiganoutdoors9347
11 ай бұрын
Bad thing is the bbs in boss loads will fragment and leave your birds full of tiny pieces of metal, have had many issues with shells being overloaded as well and not ejecting out of multiple guns after being shot.
@willbass382
11 ай бұрын
Same on the frags it’s bad.
@LiveBreatheOutdoors
11 ай бұрын
Ive also experienced fragmentation. This type of issue is unheard of in the waterfowl world and i cant believe it isnt talked about more. Just wait until someone eats a copper shard and it tears up their intestinal lining... goodbye boss!
@wulver8207
11 ай бұрын
looking forward to reports on how your new 28 gauge works out.
@OrlandoJCarlo
11 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back doing content. Been working too hard at the duck club.
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
Yep. Doing what it takes!!
@jimrogers4732
9 ай бұрын
Joel, love your channel and all the information on ammo. I'm getting ready to go on my first duck hunt, and bought a case of Boss 12ga 2 3/4 " 3/5's
@neelrandall4803
11 ай бұрын
3/5 is my favorite I use it ducks geese works great
@josephmoravec8146
11 ай бұрын
Used 3in #4 boss last year. Works great but I got other expenses this year so I went back to federal speed shok. I did have a couple of desperate last shots last year with those boss shells where I range found stone dead teal at 70 yards. I don’t advocate for that long of a shot normally but it happens sometimes on that last shell.
@joshandresen8283
11 ай бұрын
I shoot the 3in #5s at everything within 40. Ive killed plenty with the 2 3/4 #5s but those extra bbs in the 3in just makes me feel more confidence in my shot. I alway keep some 3in #3s incase we happen to really get into some honkers. I will say i have taken down honkers we ranged at 72 yards with the 3in #5s. I dont recommend it but it definitely made me believe in these boss shells
@tielemaniak
10 ай бұрын
We don't get BOSS over here in Europe but the 3/5s he mentioned sounds like a good compromise. I use 3/5s from different brands and with steel shot I like the performance over standard 4s. Especially at heavier canadian geese.
@sandybarnett7502
11 ай бұрын
Very informative. My go to for duck is a 20 gauge with #5 boss. My favorite gauge is the 28 ! Maybe start trying ducks with it
@chrismcneil5543
7 ай бұрын
Very informative!!
@41dfcpea90
10 ай бұрын
Being in and from arkansas I think I’ll support my local Remington ammo.
@turkeyhunter7617
9 ай бұрын
I just ordered some 12 gauge 2 3/4 boss 3/5 to try. Got 3 boxes coming. 👍🦆
@huntermclaurin7705
11 ай бұрын
Bought a box of 3in #3 and was very impressed with the pattering but inertia driven guns that I have will not cycle them. Tried Stoeger m3500, franchi affinity 3, and even a beneli m2. Wouldn’t cycle. But gas guns works perfectly. But not worth it to me
@turkeyhunter7617
9 ай бұрын
Good stuff! 👍🦆
@ICECOLDOUTDOORS
11 ай бұрын
3 inch #3 or #4 for those early december North Dakota honkers in the frigid cold
@benparks4804
11 ай бұрын
I’d really like if their boxes were the pseudo industry standard 25 shells per box instead of the 20 they offer. That may say more about my aim than anything 😅. I’ve enjoyed their warchief line of shells I’ve been using this season though!
@patchitwood7428
11 ай бұрын
20 gauge 3" #3's is deadly on sandhill cranes.
@GameWarden
11 ай бұрын
number 4 steel with a improved cylinder at the slowest velocity you can find is all a guy needs for decoying ducks.
@paulsrsavage
8 ай бұрын
I've had good success with steel 4s within 30 yards as well but I can't find anything slower than 1400. Can you tell us of a factory load that is slower?
@Thoseaboutto911
11 ай бұрын
What primers does BOSS use?
@rimrock53
9 ай бұрын
Had some Boss 2 3/4” #5s left from last year. Had them out on an early hunt this year and I had about a dozen left that got wet. The bases corroded. I tried using them. They turn my 870 into a single shot as they stick in the chamber. Make sure you dry them well if they get wet.
@chasespitzer1801
11 ай бұрын
I’m writing this from the duck blind for anyone watching the video who hasn’t decided to try heavy shot yet. I shoot clays a ton in the off-season to be ready for opening morning. For the past few seasons since I’ve lived in Idaho, I’ve used steel shot. I would consistently end up frustrated after shooting a duck, and watching it fly away, not at all feeling like I missed, and wondering how I did miss if I did. I shot clays all the time, and am pretty good (not great) and consistent. When I missed a clay, I almost always knew why and what I did wrong. Last year around the end of duck season, I was tipped off by my dad to this channel. I’ve learned a ton about chokes, decoys, blinds, and shotgun shells, or so I thought. After losing so many ducks and watching Joel’s videos on boss and other heavy shot, I came to the conclusion that my problem was the steel shot shells I used. I immediately started shopping around, and decided on boss, largely in part to videos like these. I do a fair amount of Canadian goose and duck hunting (almost all mallards) so I settled on no.4s. I used to shoot bb steel, so after a lot of thinking and reading, I settled on no.4s. When my shells arrived, the weight was noticeably different between the boss and the steels. I couldn’t wait for opening day. Since then, I have had what feels like more cripples and clouds of feathers than with steel (I know that likely my emotions from the disappointment are the reason it feels like more, objectively I’d have to say there is no difference from previous seasons). I at a minimum have to put 2 shells per bird, but I average all 3, and often times need a follow up shot in the water. This morning’s incident was my last straw and why I’ve decided to right this review on this video. I called and decoyed two green heads in dead center of the landing zone. Perfect set-up. I line up while these birds are floating just feet above the water on the left most bird. Boom! I quickly move to the Drake on the right. Boom! Before my shot I noticed out of my left eye that the left most duck was flying off. I turn back and hit a follow-up shot, again, Boom! The right most duck breaks above the tree line, while the duck on the left hangs way low to the water and eventually hits the water on the opposite end of the pond from me. “Another cripple” I thought, while exhaling some profanity at what has been an unbelievable amount of cripple ducks through 2 and a half weeks. I load some more shells into my beretta and some spares in my high N drys. I make my way over and see my duck swimming around, heading towards some reeds, ready to be lost like my first teal duck from yesterday. At about 20 the green head takes off into the air, I fire, and then I fire again, and once more, watching feathers land in the water underneath his flight path and him follow a similar path through the air, following the other that came in with him. As I said, this has been the last straw for me and ultimately why I wrote this. I would encourage someone who is interested in knocking down more ducks to stick with what they’ve got. At 2 dollars a shell or so, I just put 10 dollars into someone else’s green head. I would have to shell out about 15 steels to lose that same amount of cash, which NEVER happened over these last few seasons. I have many more examples from these past couple weeks of “zombie” ducks, and even my buddies having to put follow up shots on my ducks with their steel shells, because their ducks go belly up, and mine start swimming and diving away.
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
What does your pattern look like on the pattern board? It sounds like a pattern problem to me. If you’re dialed-in using the proper choke for the distance you’re shooting, then you won’t have this problem…unless perhaps you’re just hitting ducks with the fringe edge of your pattern. It’s important to have an even dense pattern. If you have holes in the pattern, you can have crippling. Thanks for writing so I can help!
@chasespitzer1801
11 ай бұрын
@@SurvivingDuckSeason I’ve patterned my shot multiple times. At about 20 yards, my pattern is about 1.5-2ft in diameter, with some flyers extending beyond that. I’ve tried different chokes as well, including all 4 of my factory chokes, and two aftermarket. I even shoot clays with a full choke at times, with no issue in accuracy. I don’t shoot ducks beyond 30 yards, except for my constant follow-up shots. Funny enough shortly after my first comment, I shot a teal coming into the decoys. It hit the water with his head up, so I hit him with another shot, it got right back up and flew off. This is the most frustrating part, as I can watch my shot hit the water in every possible spot around the duck, just to see it get up like nothing had happened.
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
@@chasespitzer1801 if you have an even pattern (with the load and choke your hunting with) then you would not have the experience of high percentage crippling.
@paulk6077
10 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Hevi XII ? I have a case of #6 and a box of #4s for geese. I haven't hunted with them yet but they patterned well. I just bought a box of Apex 2 + 7.5s to try too. Hunting public land most shots are 40+ yards. Bismuth density is only 9 so its less than lead. Hard for me to go down in momentum. I know TSS (18) kills them dead.
@brockthomas816
11 ай бұрын
Love BOSS shells after 3 boxes. Only issue is my gun (SX4) has had an issue cycling in the second round after firing. No other shell causes this in my gun. Only boss. Out of 3 boxes it has happened 4 times. Can anyone help?
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
You should reach out to the company.
@joshuarespecki1883
10 ай бұрын
I run my sx4 as a dedicated snow goose gun (giant extended tube) and shoot boss exclusively and never have cycle issues. My versamax however.....
@swamp_rat_fla1126
11 ай бұрын
Trying the legacy 20ga 3” #4’s this season in my SX4. Great info on the Boss and thanks for sharing.
@JeffOnstot
11 ай бұрын
I tried them, but never got a consistent pattern. Walking back and forth from my shooting position to my board, I noticed that a few of the wads had never opened up. I'm not sure what would be the reason for that. I haven't ever seen it before
@aman9054
11 ай бұрын
What kind of chokes you are using? I don't know what kind of wads Boss uses. But usually nowadays pellets are all inside stiff wads that protects barrel. Those wads needs choke that lowers wads speed and helps pellets to remove from wad. Speed is high and sometimes some of pellets might stuck in the wad. That might be one reason? At old times there was only felt plug between powder and pellets and everything was simpler. 😅
@JeffOnstot
11 ай бұрын
That test was with Muller Chokes. I have never had any kind of issue with them before. Always been great on performance and patterns. @@aman9054
@erikcr80
10 ай бұрын
I had luck with their legacy stuff but these new warchiefs are causing cycling issues, burning/melting and leaving more crippled ducks in the field. worse yet it seems like they are hiding reviews that aren't 5 stars on their website.
@avidwaterfowler7522
11 ай бұрын
How about a 3/4 blend?
@kadenhoff6814
11 ай бұрын
Have boss make good 16ga steel shot because federal makes it and the 4s were good but the 2 are good but the pellet pattern out at 50 is not as good. So have then make steel shot for a cheaper price. Not 50 dollars a box federal makes 4 shot for 25 to 30 dollars a box
@jaylonroes6457
11 ай бұрын
Is it possible to get Boss Ammo in Canada? Have not been successful so far.
@toddbunnett640
11 ай бұрын
I’m in the same boat. So far the answer is no.
@nightstalker161
11 ай бұрын
I can buy 460 steel shells to a case of 200 boss.. 🤔 hmmm
@miklm
11 ай бұрын
I could buy a 2-3 Mossbergs for what a Benelli or Beretta costs too. Good stuff costs more. You have to decide if the value is there for you. I have the B guns … and I’ve switched to Boss shells. Another month until season starts here.
@bboyles96
11 ай бұрын
@@miklm yeah you also role play lance Armstrong
@nightstalker161
11 ай бұрын
The industry is becoming to expensive in general and caters only to those who can afford to pay get to play. When guys are just trying to put meat in the freezer. I see both sides
@shanereichler7343
11 ай бұрын
Been looking for some 20g,2.75, steel, in 2-4 shot. Haven’t found any in 3 years. Any suggestions? I’m in CT.
@brandondeshane
8 ай бұрын
Winchester drylock makes them
@eliedube
10 ай бұрын
Where to buy in Canada?
@BL4CKICE1992
11 ай бұрын
Federal blue box and dont look back
@weskieler4320
11 ай бұрын
Been a fan for a few years but m still getting fragments in pheasants. Any idea why?
@justinbryan370
11 ай бұрын
Bismuth is brittle and fragments easily. The copper plating is very thin to help maintain solidity under acceleration out of the barrel and through the constriction on the choke. It's the natural nature of the metal.
@jeffbo850
10 ай бұрын
@@justinbryan370s
@ryderschneider92
11 ай бұрын
He’s calling us children bc we want to shoot 3” shells.. wow I’m here to learn but okay dude
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
Children???
@bboyles96
11 ай бұрын
Yeah this type of culture is taking over duck hunting and it’s gross ….. “If you don’t shoot boss you are wrong” “If you don’t shoot a 28 gauge” “If you don’t wear Sitka” Idk I guess I like to go against the grain but when I hear interviews with guys like this who think he has re invented the wheel I just laugh and go buy my cheap shells and kill just as much as the guy buying his designer shot shells….
@10Tenner3006
11 ай бұрын
Buffer was invented by Herters back in the 60’s. Ballistic Products promoted buffer starting back in the 70’s. This is not new technology. I shot buffered lead shells before the lead ban.
@briantalbot7929
11 ай бұрын
I just use the winchester drylok shells and they kill more than those boss shells do
@BrokenBarBox
6 ай бұрын
What video were you watching? Nowhere in this one did he call people children for wanting to shoot 3”
@danc6402
7 күн бұрын
Even the legacy loads are 340 for 200 shells. You gotta be out of your mind. They aren't gold pellets.
@msb2948
7 ай бұрын
Not a fan of them. Hevi 12 for the win.
@Pontiuspilate666
11 ай бұрын
I wish beretta would make a 28 gauge
@dillonb.458
11 ай бұрын
They make a couple semi autos in the A400 family and several over unders.
@Pontiuspilate666
11 ай бұрын
@@dillonb.458 they don't make one that is a waterfowl edition. They just came out with the 20 guage in the waterfowl line.
@Fergusonturd
11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don't care about ballistics. I want to know very simply, will it kill a duck.
@Pontiuspilate666
11 ай бұрын
Ballistics are a good test as to whether or not it will, way better than patterning your gun with just paper.
@dennisswroptr4382
6 ай бұрын
I wish you would also talk to remington, because I like their steel.
@joshclark8700
11 ай бұрын
3” 3/5 IM choke
@stephanl1983
11 ай бұрын
Yesterday I asked myself when your next video would be showed?! I know a lot of people here in Germany who loves your videos!
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
That's awesome!
@claybezenek4635
5 ай бұрын
Hey Joel, I cant say how much i appreciate your efforts with choke tube technology and shotshell quality!!!!….wow!!! Makes perfect sense…. Im spreading the info at my gun club and to fellow waterfowlers. Im a benelli sb3 owner, so Muellers will be on the end of my families barrels from here on out. Boss will be shot out of them, also. I figure the least i can do for you is to book a hunt in the future with your business, and maybe get to share a blind. Again, “thanks” and Peace to you and your family!!! Clay Bezenek Ketchikan, Ak
@Macdaddy22713
11 ай бұрын
Love your videos!!! but wont ever shoot bismuth. Had it fracture too much and not worth the extra cost.
@Pontiuspilate666
11 ай бұрын
Change your choke man!
@doubleh1011
11 ай бұрын
Bismuth is brittle and shatters, yes. But not copper plated bismuth. I had Kent bismuth do that, but never with Boss. The copper plating makes a huge difference.
@Scotty777
11 ай бұрын
Used them for the first time here for the Michigan opener this weekend, they hammer the waterfowl. If you do your job the BOSS will do it's job 100%.
@TexasRedneck
10 ай бұрын
I'd love to have some Boss ammo, but I'm not spending that much per round. They may be awesome but I dont see myself spending that much.
@justcallmedyno8938
11 ай бұрын
Another great video Joel! Will we be seeing anything else from TSS? And if I may make one suggestion, when having these sit-down conversations, move the mic with you as you move; your audio got a little distant/quiet at the end
@arlan784
10 ай бұрын
I was curious if you'd do a video on duck hunting cammo and it's effectiveness with new and old patterns. Love the content!
@bobbyscott8024
11 ай бұрын
Well done y'all! From Sophia, N.C.
@Пороховойбарон
11 ай бұрын
Дробь сталь или свинец?
@mtiseo
11 ай бұрын
#4s new warchief. Good stuff
@johnselby570
11 ай бұрын
What 28 gauge you looking to buy?
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
I bought the Benelli Ethos Cordoba BEST 28 ga
@johnselby570
11 ай бұрын
Nice, just today I bought a 12 gauge sbe3. But a 28 is my next buy. Thank you for getting back to me and I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming
@logjammin084
6 ай бұрын
@@johnselby570how are you liking your sbe3? I love mine. I also want to get a sbe3 28 next
@allanryan6014
10 ай бұрын
With the talk of 28ga , what shotgun are you guys using. I wish Mossberg would offer 28ga in there 940 waterfoul .
@toronadogofast7868
Ай бұрын
I bought a Remington premier and it is a great shotgun. Have shot cz, browning, and many pump guns also. A semi auto that gets great reviews is a Tristar G2. I know that a number of the Tristar seen low quality, but the G2 and the TT15 are great guns.
@mikeedl8342
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making new content always love to watch your videos.
@SurvivingDuckSeason
11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@duke1386
11 ай бұрын
Best cost to kill ratio on the market!!!!
@duke1386
10 ай бұрын
Can’t beat physics bro
@alanrobinson3549
11 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, What a great interview with Brandon. I'm over in the UK and use a 28 gauge and Brandon right it has to be a 2 3/4 shell with a 21gram load thats lead. I been loading my shell with TSS and i have just finished doing a lot of patterns and i have found 6grams of 10s loaded first with 14grams of 9s on top give me an avg pattern of 220 pellets in a 30 inch dia at 40m. Due to plastic wads being banned on most shooting grounds im using a paper tube made for me. The patterns are better than the TPS wade. The tube has no splits. The tube length is 25mm inside dia 10mm and that holds 20gram of TSS. I have to taper the inside of one end so i can crimp the shell down , if you rolled crimped the shell you would not need to do that. My gun is fixed choked at 3/4. Loading data is 27.5grn of litlil gun gas seal 15mm cork with tube on top hope this helps. look me up on youtube shooting TSS Regards Alan Robinson
Пікірлер: 129