There's a rumour that when hogan goes to bed at night he sleeps on top of his cover out of fear the cover going over him
@HabsMike25
2 жыл бұрын
You win with best comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@marcusmoss3399
2 жыл бұрын
That's to funny good one
@strcash-fs8of
2 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooooo u got it
@naluminolinyandi6755
Жыл бұрын
😹😹😹😹😹
@sloth021
Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭🤣🤣
@TiVo67
2 жыл бұрын
Starrcade 97 is the “Jump the Shark” moment of WCW. I don’t care what the excuses Eric & Hulk have made up since, not having Sting going over clean & decisive after a year and a half build is the start of their decline.
@TimmyTickle
2 жыл бұрын
Some would argue that the Fingerpoke of Doom was WCW’s real JTS moment
@MR.__G
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimmyTickle I’d say that was the nail in the coffin
@tylongkicks8821
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimmyTickle That was the nail in the coffin
@Paranitis
2 жыл бұрын
@@kidz4p509 Which was probably why WCW went downhill since it happened. All the hype, means more people watching it, and with everyone seeing how disappointing it was, there was no reason to bother continuing to watch.
@Marc_Masters
2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@ellismarquez8410
2 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget that contrast. Fall semester '97, everyone at school was wearing Sting and NWO shirts; by the end of Spring '98, everyone was all about DX and Austin 3:16.
@JGD185
Жыл бұрын
WCW was running with the ball about to score a touchdown and they fumbled...BROTHER
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
Hardly. 1998 belonged to one man - Da Man! Goldberg. That's who everyone was talking about all the way up to the next Starrcade.
@thepeoplesartist2863
Жыл бұрын
Yep spot on
@RebelliousEra
5 ай бұрын
It’s because Wal-Mart was selling them
@sosamanotf642
20 күн бұрын
Nah, spring 98, it was definitely all about Goldberg.
@ham-mantheman-ham634
2 жыл бұрын
I will never forget how big of a deal this was. My father didn't even like wrestling but we went to one of his friends houses to watch this like the superbowl. It was very exciting.
@tylongkicks8821
2 жыл бұрын
Yep it was huge even my Uncle ordered it. This and WrestleMania 14. He wasn't even a big wrestling fan
@MrJermeyp
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the PPV around this era were all like that, the hype was REAL back then lol.. many many people I knew that weren’t wrestling fans made SURE they watched the PPVs every time it was crazy, the NWO really was a pop culture phenomenon
@9mmsafetyalwaysoff00
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJermeyp I can remember having multiple parties where friends were invited over to watch PPV. I can't even remember which PPVs were bought now. We'd been out to shows too, can't even remember if they were WCW or WWF lol.
@AFMountaineer2000
2 жыл бұрын
Smart man not wasting his money on this
@regalsylvester
2 жыл бұрын
Never imagined their popularity would wane
@SteelyBud
2 жыл бұрын
When Buff Bagwell said "Hi Mom!" we had no idea he was foreshadowing one of the greatest angles in wrestling history.
@Brochnick
Жыл бұрын
Right?! Who could for the old lady on a pole match? I wish I could...
@Wilcat1033
Жыл бұрын
😂 long term storytelling right there
@Sparkledash1
2 жыл бұрын
What could've been the greatest night in WCWs history, turned out to be WCWs slow decline going forward. I mean, yes 98 was also a good year with Goldberg. But you could see that Hogan and his friends would never let anyone overtake them.
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan Never Legit heading into Politics is shocking to me as he was so good at the Shenanigans in Professional Wrestling ….
@johnbubbaloo436
2 жыл бұрын
They didn't even try to salvage it with a "Bret screwed Hogan" storyline or anything.
@maxdecphoenix
Жыл бұрын
Leading in to starcade, WCW had babyface Sting, a babyface Bret Hart riding a big sympathy wave, and a green juggernaut in a recently debuted Bill Goldberg. It's amazing how just by not having Nick do a fast count, Hogan was able to rob Sting of an undisputed win (belt was taken back the following night) and also tarnish Bret Hart within weeks of his debut. I think Bret was the first guy to come from WWF that wasn't brought in to reignite an old rivalry like Piper and Warrior were. Where they basically just did the job and were brushed aside. I don't think Hogan planned to ever work with Bret, but he didn't want him gaining traction so he made him look like an idiot. Basically in early 97, Sting was the only threat to a returning babyface Hogan, but at the end of 97 that simply wasn't the case. Sting, Goldberg, Hart, and really DDP as well. I swear the more i think about this night the more i feel like Hogan did this just to tarnish Bret.
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
Hogan put Goldberg over clean as a whistle.
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
@@maxdecphoenix the reason Bret was a special ref was because he was still under a legal no-compete clause with the WWF that prevented him from wrestling for another company for 90 days after leaving them.
@at3479
2 жыл бұрын
When WCW had the WWF down for the count......and blew it
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
@@joedavidson6556 Until the Paralegal finally made Vince McMahon Tap Out …. 👀
@Hilversumborn
2 жыл бұрын
@@joedavidson6556 Nah, he did the Undertaker sit up dodging at the last second
@OreO2405
2 жыл бұрын
28-3 before 28-3
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
@@joedavidson6556 thank god? Have you seen wrestling post-2001 at all? WCW being sold off to WWE was the worst thing that has ever happened to the industry. Besides, Vince didn't "kick out", he just got lucky when AOL TimeWarner came along and totally screwed up Turner with their disastrous merger/takeover.
@A1PrimeTimeMovies
2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of everything else from this ppv, Sting’s entrance here remains one of the greatest ever.
@TheSerpentsEye
2 жыл бұрын
It gave me goosebumps at 14 years old and still does today. Absolutely stellar production on that intro.
@falloutghoul1
Жыл бұрын
That look on his face. He knew how it was going to end.
@Chuck_EL
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSerpentsEye his theme is badass
@fast_mattw8059
2 жыл бұрын
I wish my Dad was still here to watch these along with me. We watched wrestling when i was a kid and I so vividly remember these times of course. Been following this series for a long while now, this one was unforgettable for many.
@advantagetraining6761
2 жыл бұрын
25 years later it's still crazy to think WCW dropped the ball on Sting vs Hogan.
@assclown452
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they screwed the pouch with the bs "fast count " finish. And sting wasn't in good shape.
@ITGShaddyMaCC
2 жыл бұрын
Was the match that was supposed to change the landscape
@Venemofthe888
2 жыл бұрын
him losing clean needed to happen to be perfect but his ego and contract ruined WCW. It didnt sink the ship but it put a massive hole in it and this is why having creative control with someone like Hogan makes things impossible. It should of been the beginning of the end for the nWo when Hogan lost clean but unfortunately Bischoff at the time didnt get it. Power of hindsight and all that but even people at the time could probably see it
@briankenney6246
2 жыл бұрын
WCW doing WCW things , You can and rightfully so say many things wrong with WWE but they knew how to make many storylines pay off and make matches feel huge . WCW with all its money and talent at its peak never seemed to get it right
@BiggusYuichi
2 жыл бұрын
It was all Hogan fault.
@steveny1658
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has followed the wars through this series and paid no attention to WCW at the time, and had no idea how this pay per view played out, the way you built up the main event had me so pumped up for it. Excellent work my friend.
@kageakuma3009
2 жыл бұрын
As far as Nash and the heart attack thing goes, he most likely had a panic attack but considering his dad had died of a heart attack I can't blame him in the slightest for being worried. I've had panic attacks and it's a worrying thing.
@kageakuma3009
Жыл бұрын
@Antionitonio Bianchinitio no real person, I have autism and a panic attack feels like your having a heart attack. It's scary. If you've never had one, you're lucky. I mean it really feels like a heart attack. First one i had called an ambulance and cost me a fortune. I mean I have high blood pressure I'm a smoker and a drinker scared me half to death.
@rex788
Жыл бұрын
Forreal. I had a panic attack one night before bed. I seriously thought this was it. Scary as hell.
@BradleyMayhem0729
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to face it, Hogan’s ego was detrimental to WCW and stopped a lot of great matches and storylines from happening! 🤷♂️ 👊
@rayvenkman2087
2 жыл бұрын
Dixie of TNA didn’t get the memo when she signed him on and WWE In early 2000’s was at least wise enough to make him do jobs cleanly to other performers like Brock Lesner. Although, I think he might have only been playing ball because of the amount of heat he had from his antics in WCW and the stuff he pulled on the WWF in the early 90’s due to his backstage pull then. Didn’t have the leverage on Vince during that period with WCW gone.
@billhicks6449
2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone in denial? I mean I'm pretty sure we all know that.
@BradleyMayhem0729
2 жыл бұрын
@@billhicks6449 obviously some are, so carry on sir, you’ll garner no attention here 🤷♂️
@billhicks6449
2 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyMayhem0729 I'm not even trying to troll. I'm just a bit shocked there are people out there that don't know Hogan's a tool who killed a bunch of careers and storylines. I honestly thought that was just accepted truth by now.
@benlamar2017
2 жыл бұрын
You're right ! It is an acceptable truth .
@KnightlyBrosGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Sting's entrance at Starrcade 97 is the stuff of legend. The narration to start, the music, the lighting, and it was flawless.
@mulvihillmatt
2 жыл бұрын
…And then the match happened…
@mattgeer5609
Жыл бұрын
It was trash.. Eric bishoff and Conrad both said him just walking out was a mistake. Him coming out like a normal match , normal wrestler after him coming down from the rafters for a year
@dominicderubeis6627
9 ай бұрын
He ABSOLUTELY should have come down from the rafters
@ShaunInce123
2 ай бұрын
That's the only highlight of the main event. Everything else, however was a shitshow
@pezpowerproductions2602
2 жыл бұрын
1997 can we go back. the world was better. wrestling was better. damn man i miss this.
@landeny65
2 жыл бұрын
when you toss in Playstation and N64, and oh idk, no pandemic or 20 year long wars, it really was the best of times.
@num1Jaysta
2 жыл бұрын
Good times
@pezpowerproductions2602
2 жыл бұрын
@@num1Jaysta best times?
@num1Jaysta
2 жыл бұрын
@@pezpowerproductions2602 Right
@brandonharbin406
2 жыл бұрын
The most hyped match I can remember and the biggest disappointment. I was all WCW up to this point but after this I started watching WWF more.
@travisgowen5044
2 жыл бұрын
I remember being a kid and starting to realize how absurd it all was. Sting was absolutely iconic at this point, and they butchered his return to the ring, something I don't think he ever really recovered from in WCW.
@brandonharbin406
2 жыл бұрын
@@travisgowen5044 no doubt, he was over as much as anyone coming into Starcade with that great build.
@johnepants
2 жыл бұрын
@@kidz4p509 somehow the clusterfuck of Montreal came across as a net positive in the long run while this garbage was where long term casual wcw watchers would go “hey, there is the company I grew up with screwing up a sure thing again”
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
WCW was a Train wreck Bro …….
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744
2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood Hogan leading a heel faction of cool dudes who love the spotlight, hang out with celebrities, and travel in packs was brilliant enough, but to contrast that with Sting's transformation into the Crow, a guy who says nothing at all and exists in perpetual solitude, who was the face of the company before the takeover and is looked to as its savior from the nWo's reign of terror, with that little hint that Sting could follow Hogan's path from the company babyface to its biggest heel...that was sheer perfection. Of course, WCW f----ked it up. But, hey, it was good while it lasted.
@TheGr8T8Channel
2 жыл бұрын
WCW's peak... before the slow and the eventual fast decline. Still a great time to be a wrestling fan.
@martynodonnell8467
2 жыл бұрын
The beginning of the end for WCW.
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
2 жыл бұрын
@@martynodonnell8467 Souled Out '97 & the nWo Nitro show before this PPV were the beginning, this PPV's ending courtesy of Hulk Hogan's Creative Control run amok was a bigger hole in the proverbial ship & the Fingerpoke of Doom coupled with Mick Foley's win on WWF RAW being spoiled ahead of time were the climax & the ill-fated Time-Warner merger coupled with Jamie Kellner cancelling WCW television network deal were what sunk the company.
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
@@joedavidson6556 WWF were still so far behind at this point. WCW was where it was at.
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
@@martynodonnell8467 nah, the beginning of the end for WCW was when AOL TimeWarner came along and stuffed up Turner with their merger/takeover. Had nothing to do with anything that happened in the ring or in kayfabe.
@Rhapsodies_In_Red
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best build ups ever and WCW blew it.
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
On a lower scale but Tony Khan and AEW seem to be following the same formula with their Angles …. 👀
@Rhapsodies_In_Red
2 жыл бұрын
@@constablekennedy7705 I'm not too sure about what's going on with AEW lately they seemed to be doing good in the past.
@Acemonkey87
2 жыл бұрын
I watched this on my B-day with my uncle. The last time I saw him. This show will always have a special place in my heart.
@Nazzers
2 жыл бұрын
This was the first and last WCW PPV I ever bought and we can all see why. Keep in mind that WWF had just screwed Bret so a lot of people were ready to switch to WCW for good. It's absolutely astounding that they dropped the ball this hard.
@tylongkicks8821
2 жыл бұрын
They had everything in the palm of their hand
@linkvagar2336
2 жыл бұрын
It didn't really matter whether the ball was dropped or not. In the end, Turner executives would still have screwed over WCW. Most of them simply didn't want wrestling on their network.
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, with Bret Hart on this Card also ……. 💀
@MrDaveJustice
2 жыл бұрын
The wwf ratings went up by a decent amount after the screwjob, I dont see why bret Hart being screw caused people to switch when it was clearly the other way around
@Buckdawg
2 жыл бұрын
@@linkvagar2336 Had the product not been losing so much money due to insane mismanagement, the company would have turned a profit, and its doubtful it would have been cancelled.
@mattabshier2494
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect execution over a year and a half, and all WCW had to do was put that final stamp on it, and of course they dropped that ball in spectacular fashion and could never truly get it back again.
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
WCW Summed up in a nutshell ……….
@JGD185
Жыл бұрын
That year and half was honestly my favorite time as a wrestling fan. I had so much fun watching Nitro every monday night with friends. When Nitro was on point I thought it was the best wrestling show ever.
@benespinosa6725
2 жыл бұрын
Nick Patrick's bump when Bret Punched him was absolutely hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@roryslaine7896
2 жыл бұрын
I was pissing myself at that 😂
@kirkcavanaugh1493
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the fights that included guerrero, malenko, benoit, and rey mysterio always seemed to kind of drag on, but I just realized that the reason that I actually sat there and watched the entirety of all those matches was because they were such good wrestlers and entertainers. juventud guerrera too.
@zlinedavid
2 жыл бұрын
There was a reason that WCW really hit the skids when Eddie, Malenko and Benoit left. You could mix and match those guys together and get an entertaining, relatively long match that chewed up TV time.
@darthroden
2 жыл бұрын
@@zlinedavid Guerrero and Benoit were the glue that held that place together, along with Jericho and a couple others. Once they jumped ship, that was the sign that WCW became the Titanic.
@iamthurnis745
2 жыл бұрын
10:03 that steiner ddt is one of the craziest things i’ve ever seen. Also, wow your edit for the buildup of the sting/hogan match was amazing. i’m 25, so i was 9 months old when this was happening but man WCW took that amazing build that your eloquently broke down and they flushed amazing storytelling and build down the toilet. should’ve been a 30 second match
@vikenmanjikian4607
2 жыл бұрын
As a video editor, watching your rework of the Sting Starcade promo was simply beautiful
@REblll
2 жыл бұрын
:)
@BiggusYuichi
2 жыл бұрын
Me and my HS friends all got together for this one. The MT Dew was flowing, the giant 20 inch tv broadcasting it with the rf de-scrambler from the company. Was so great and hyped. Till the main event plunder. I became a mark after this learning about what happened and it was all thanks to Hogan. This moment to me is where WCW started to go down. You had the story, the people, the rating to squash WWF. Yet in the end...Hogan LOL
@nefariousnilbog
2 жыл бұрын
This series makes it feel like the PPV just happened
@SoloSeason
2 жыл бұрын
Holy hell! The transition for main event was perfect-- this - is -Sting
@matthewcowan9324
2 жыл бұрын
Dean Malenko’s daughter is almost 25.
@KidGravityBeyond
2 жыл бұрын
The 97-2000s crowds were the best.
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed Bro
@davidlinehat4657
Жыл бұрын
As a 14 yr old kid growing up in Washington, DC, I was dying to be at this event. It's so depressing that they screwed up the most important single match in WCW history. Rewatching it now, i'm so impressed by the malenko /guerrero match. Those guys were incredible!
@LordHeath1972
2 жыл бұрын
20:18 With all the work, time and effort put into making this video, the scripting, the editing, the narration and all the excellent quality of everything.... I just can't get past this shot!!!!
@smoosev89
2 жыл бұрын
Eddie running on his knees was hilarious 😂
@cvz14
2 жыл бұрын
Wrestling bios always dropping 🔥🔥🔥
@corymurphy220
2 жыл бұрын
I was there that night. I remember all the build up for this match. My mom won tickets on the radio so didnt know we were going til 2 days before. Looking back the rest of the ppv was weak compared to what wcw was doin at that time. But stings entrance was awesome and it was awesome being there to see this moment in history. Awesome looking back on this and the whole reliving the war series. Was a good time to be a wrestling fan. Good job.
@martylocke9791
2 жыл бұрын
I love how you cut the music out right as you say Hogan defeats Sting. That's the best way to convey how it felt to learn of the result back then.
@peterkaniuk8909
2 жыл бұрын
Blessing us with another classic. What can't this man do. Bravo. Thank you 👏
@chrisbelos2834
2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one, thank you Wrestling Bios
@PlatinumRoseLady
2 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to see a physical representation of the phrase "I have made a horrible mistake" look at any still photo of Bret Hart in WCW.
@namikstudios
Жыл бұрын
Bret is one of only nine WCW Triple Crown Champions. He had a great run there.
@PlatinumRoseLady
Жыл бұрын
@@namikstudios You're entitled to your opinion, of course. Mine is that Bret's run was always one step behind Hogan because NOBODY was allowed to outshine Hogan. Even someone who could out-wrestle Hogan blindfolded with one arm tied behind his back. Like Bret Hart.
@cheyennenelson3484
2 жыл бұрын
I never watched WCW as a kid. Was always a WWF fan. But I was only 2 when this happened lol. So going back and hearing your stories and others from that time period really makes me feel great my friend so thank you.
@chrisolson2846
2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this! Thanks for all the work you do!
@rulerofall015
2 жыл бұрын
Clicked the notification so fast. This PPV OMG this PPV is one of the important PPVs WCW made and that now it’s elevated by wrestling bios commentary
@bryansansone3301
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best episodes, if not THE best episode, you've done so far. Waiting a year and a half almost for Sting to come back was one of the main reasons I quit watching WCW. You've been on point with everything you've made, and I thank you for that.
@jeffm5056
2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live, and the highlight of the Bischoff/Zbyszsko match was when the metal plate flies out of Eric's boot, you can see Bret Hart watch it fly into the crowd and he just laughs. Like you could just see the regret in Bret's face for joining WCW.
@StealthMarmot_
Жыл бұрын
He makes a note to himself to not put this match anywhere on his resume going forward.
@pezpowerproductions2602
2 жыл бұрын
You have once again made me glad that i can see my name at the end of these episodes,,,,,,,,, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!
@marshallmcluhan33
2 жыл бұрын
WCW screwed WCW!
@kaiserrino8774
2 жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan screwed WCW is the more accurate statement for Starrcade 97.
@undertakernumberone1
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaiserrino8774 and WCW gave Hogan the contract that allowed him to. The buck ends with WCW. However, there is the issue where we just don't know what was going on. Bischoff once said that the reason for hte change was that Sting wasn't in shape... can that be blamed on Hogan? Others say that Patrick forgot durign the count or got conflicting orders...
@AASLT405
2 жыл бұрын
best wrestling channel on youtube beside jc. playing by play is second to none makes jr proud
@digitalmarketinghumans
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best anticipation to this rivalry in WCW. This was one of the many reasons I was sooo invested in WCW at the time. Everyone was talking about Hollywood Hogan vs Sting!
@mrbrooklynny
2 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate the fact that he's actually counting Goldberg's streak.
@averywinters2400
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine hart doesn’t get mentioned at all,sting gets a clean 123, confetti is falling while sting celebrates with WCW guys all around then the Guitar hits and out struts Hart in jeans and the leather jacket complete with the iconic pink sunglasses, Starcade fades to black as the most epic of stardowns happens
@deandredukes95
2 жыл бұрын
One of the early downfalls of WCW
@isaiahwinbrone
2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right
@tylongkicks8821
2 жыл бұрын
@Chainmastress34 That was the first big hole in the ship
@FreneticZetetic
2 жыл бұрын
It was the peak into the decline in the same night and match IMHO.
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
2 жыл бұрын
nWo Souled Out 1997 & the nWo Nitro attempt before this show both say hi.
@constablekennedy7705
2 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir
@greatnezz10
2 жыл бұрын
25 years later and Eric Bischoff still believes he did the right thing and he did nothing wrong.
@jackcarraway4707
2 жыл бұрын
He probably thinks firing Austin over the phone was the right call.
@nickbanks7954
2 жыл бұрын
I like Eric but there is a reason why they lost to the same people will do the Katie Vick story years later.
@digdugdat2847
2 жыл бұрын
I think there should be an appreciation for just how much Vincent got the dogshit beat out of him in WCW for significantly less pay
@cryptomnesiac
2 жыл бұрын
Saturn was super underrated in WCW, killer move set
@aaronlauretani8921
Жыл бұрын
This is how I would've booked the main event: The nWo all run down together and gang up on Sting before the bell to beat him down, but the WCW troops finally run down and save him to show how he's unified them as a team. Sting is compromised, and Hogan toys with him arrogantly for a couple of minutes, but Sting stands up and no-sells as Hogan is posing to the crowd. Sting then quickly punches Hogan a few times, throws him in the corner, Stinger Splashes Hogan a couple of times, and makes him tap to the Scorpion. Keep it simple.
@Snake_0_
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best reviews yet, you really captured the significance of this event in the overall history of the Monday Night Wars. It’s still incredible today just how big this was and how much WCW blew it. The amount of hype was always going to lead to expectations being high and hard to meet, but they completely messed up so many things that should have been simple. The worst being how they booked Bret Hart and the finish to the main event. Still completely baffling today as to why they didn’t do something else with Bret and why they didn’t just have Sting go over Hogan clean.
@Papaw.Rooster
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love how you report facts as facts and speculation as speculation without sensationalism presenting evidence that supports either explanation or side of the story and let folks decide for themselves with a good sense of humor on top of it. I love your content.
@tmage23
2 жыл бұрын
Mortis + Alex Wright tag team name: Dead Can Dance
@MachoJoe
Жыл бұрын
So Hogan did to Sting what Andre the Giant wouldn't to him. Way to pay it forward!
@2ColdScoprio
Жыл бұрын
It finally just hit me. On this PPV Eddie Guerrero faced Dean Malenko. Chris Benoit faced Perry Saturn….the original Radicalz exploded on this night! 🤯
@pushon10
2 жыл бұрын
Even if Sting was not in the right frame of mind, that's no excuse to have him win this overbooked, overlong and dirty match. If anything, it would have been easier and quicker to have him win cleanly.
@mikeythompson2761
2 жыл бұрын
Buff taking a bump from luger's spit is hilarious 😂 😆 🤣 😂
@righthandjds95
2 жыл бұрын
If I it was me: I just signed Bret Hart, I got my main event for Starrcade 97, and I have momentum going into the show. I would’ve had Sting beat Hogan clean and celebrate, in the closing moments of the show let Bret Hart (debut) walkout on stage staring towards Sting, let this be the ending/downfall of NWO, and already got the fans tuning in for Monday.
@Thor-Orion
2 жыл бұрын
You have them split after the loss.
@undertakernumberone1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Thor-Orion no. You book their downfall slowly! Have Hogan become erratic and paranoid after he lost his belt. Who does he blame? Himself? No chance Brother. Bischoff? Eh... But who does he blame? The Outsiders, of course! And Syxx! Meanwhile, Bagwell and Norton (mainly using them because they were a tag team) become his sycophantic ear whisperers, seeing their chance of rising from "random members" to the new top guys after Hogan, with the Outsiders, and Syxx, being blamed. This drives them away, causing the Wolfpack to be formed. Members of hte nWo start drifting away and its power weakens. Sting runs as champion, but maybe loses it after a while, maybe to another face. Then, while feuding with the Wolfpack and others, Hogan wins the Big Gold Belt again, Bagwell and Norton win the Tag straps. It seems like the NWO rules agian. The next Nitro, Hogan invites the Wolfpack to come back into the nWo, to the winning team. Of course, only as lesser, cannonfodder members. They decline. Meanwhile, the members who drifted away go "I never left! nWo 4 life!" like the most slimey sycophants. But then, one or three PPVs down the line, Hogan looses the big gold belt to a face, Bagwell and Norton lose their belts to Hall and Nash. All the sycophants running away. Leaving only Hogan, Bagwell, Norton and Bischoff. A shadow of the nWo's former self. And then, in their last PPV match, they loose against the Wolfpack and are forced to disband once and for all. Remmeber, the Woflpack got quite over. Wouldn't want to miss out on that.
@Thor-Orion
2 жыл бұрын
@@undertakernumberone1 no, I meant split into factions, not completely split apart. The angle was still hot. The crowd REALLY wanted to see the Outsiders turn face on Hogan. When we get to the Slamboree where they're forced to split up the crowd is going crazy begging them not to split up. It's an amazing match, actually. Probably my favorite WCW pay-per-view main event, honestly. The Outsiders were SO over, and were clearly the reason why NWO was so popular and able to sell so many t-shirts. Hogan was getting booed out of the building every single night basically, and despite being in the same faction as Hogan, The Outsiders were cheered like faces most places, because they were SO entertaining and elevated the tag team scene which old school NWA and AWA (and especially WCCW) fans absolutely LOVED tag-team wrestling and were excited to see it end up back in the main event because of The Outsiders being involved in the title picture. They had great feuds with The Steiners, Harlem Heat, Giant and Lugar and several others. They weren't like Hogan where every match is the same and they always had to win or have something screwy happen to "protect" his character. That's the biggest reason people hated Hogan but quickly came to embrace The Outsiders.
@Myrridan19
Жыл бұрын
Disappointed there wasn't a mention of Sting saying "Mamacita" along with a few other words to the camera during his celebration. The commentators even point out that these were the first words Sting had said in 15 months. What the heck was that?! It's like Sting simply broke character and returned to his surfer gimmick at the end there. It's yet another baffling moment on this cursed PPV.
@tombardsley3081
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who was too young at the time when the Monday night wars were a thing, these videos really show what a real wrestling war between 2 major wrestling promotions was like. Can definitely agree with many comments on here that the finish to this show might have been the start of WCW’s decline
@christopherfoley8322
Жыл бұрын
Dean and Eddie always had good matches, usually no matter who they wrestled in the cruiser weight division, its why i loved WCW PPV opening matches, cause they were often the best matches of the PPV
@violagreene4643
2 жыл бұрын
Eddie's reaction after the power slam read more as "petulant heel" than "determined babyface" to me. But it can be easy to slip from one to the other if you're not careful.
@benniewoods1124
2 жыл бұрын
I'll come back to this video often throughout the years, just for the Sting/Hogan build up.
@jansenmccloud
2 жыл бұрын
"Mortis and Wrathwurst" 😂😂😂😂
@Justicesdad
2 жыл бұрын
Best yt series ever and it’s only halfway through Well done brother
@kakamesh
2 жыл бұрын
I live in Australia and I bought this and all my friends came over to watch this.... That's how big this was. Those were the days when we would play 64 player royal rumble on the n64 (wcw vs nwo world tour)
@xavierwilliams2228
2 жыл бұрын
This is WCW at its complete apex. I remember being a 7 yr old kid watching thunder in Jan of 98 and remembering how it felt like wcw was coming dwn from that roller-coaster ride.
@DOYLETWAT
2 жыл бұрын
Why are WCW wrestlers always spitting on each other?
@stefan7399
2 жыл бұрын
Watching this video during a thunder storm. Its adding to the effects of the Sting promo.
@johnrodriguez8233
2 жыл бұрын
All I remember sting saying Mamacita at the end....I Said to myself almost a whole year of not saying anything,his first words were Mamacita 🤣🤣🤣ahhhh I love WCW!!!!
@martynodonnell8467
2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome upload from the wrestling channel on the planet with the most Jam! One of the most important PPVs of the Monday Night Wars. Along with WM14, with Austin winning the title. If we look at the contrast of booking. It tells us everything we need to know about who would win the war. WCW had no idea how to book a wrestling show. A botched ending to the biggest built match in PPV history by that point, mostly due to Hogans ego. This was the beginning of the end for WCW. Where moving into 98. WWF would take control of the war and the Austin era, the most profitable time in the company’s history, would start. Where as WCW would continue to fall apart into 98.
@nicholashurst780
2 жыл бұрын
An oft' forgotten part of the year+ without a televised Sting match is that he often closed out Nitro's with a post tv timeslot dark match to send the crowd home happy with a Sting win after the tv show ended with the nWo on top. He actually beat basically everyone else in the faction on his way to Hogan. And they were probably all better matches than this one.
@matthewdavis6741
2 жыл бұрын
Been watching Reliving the Wars the entire run of this series.....and this is the show that everyone wanted to see reviewed right? Right? Sorry, this is the peak of the series. Nothing else will be as big as this show during this time. So excited to watch!!!!
@Thor-Orion
2 жыл бұрын
No, for me there's actually several. Been watching this channel for a year before Reliving the War. He's always been great.
@romibodoni
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong! There are still loads of Alex-Wright-big-bratwurst-intros to come!
@canuckj8382
2 жыл бұрын
Love the dude in the crowd shown during Benoit vs Raven wearing NY isles fishermen jersey 👍🏻
@kerpal321
2 жыл бұрын
i wish 1997 could have lasted forever
@dizzy1369
2 жыл бұрын
23:09 love how you showed us another chinlock there 😂🤣
@imal25
2 жыл бұрын
PART 3 COMING UP…
@landeny65
2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live on PPV and it was like watching a half baked cake fall apart after pulling it out of the oven
@BigSparky1316
3 ай бұрын
I was born in 92 and I remember this ppv as a little boy! My absolute favorite was sting and how he came down from the rafters
@Football__Junkie
2 жыл бұрын
Scott Steiner is looking super pumped up here! Geez!
@drjohnsmith5282
2 жыл бұрын
Re the finish of the main event: even if you wanted to claim Hogan grabbed the *tights* (which he did) and thus that Sting had been screwed, the finish would then have made more sense. Seriously looks like 'that doesn't work for me, brother' standard Hogan BS though
@Eric-wu7bp
Жыл бұрын
The Way nick Patrick sold that Bret hart shot was priceless 😂
@brandonperkins176
2 жыл бұрын
It was good for some parts but without controversy. Sting vs Hogan, 25 years ago, is still talked about to this day. Never will we see a main event certificated in gold ever again
@ManahManah77
Жыл бұрын
I never saw the ending of the Hogan vs. Sting match as a botch until things like this video became more readily accessible to the general public. What I mean is that even as "late" as '97, information on the backstage workings of pro wrestling was sparse on the internet. The way that I saw it happening that night was like this: Hogan grabbed the tights right before Patrick counted 3 and that was what Bret was upset about rather than a "fast count" that never happened. I do remember it looking awkward as hell, and the revelations about it being a botch explain why. That being said, I absolutely would not put it past Hogan to have refused to lose clean and for him to be the one that threw the monkeywrench into everything.
@AmazingGuy13
2 жыл бұрын
The beginning of the end for WCW imo
@tz4637
2 жыл бұрын
Good for Larry Z for getting over in 97. I was 9, had no idea he was a legend already. And loved him. Credit to him
@mcneilyism
2 жыл бұрын
I can't stop laughing at that metal plate flying off! 😆
@StealthMarmot_
Жыл бұрын
Nor can I, that is some Looney Tunes stuff right there. Bret's just looking at where it went thinking "How...did I get here?"
@DoomRulz
Жыл бұрын
Hello friend! New sub here. I've been bingeing your videos for the past three days now and I love your content. Thanks for helping me relieve those fun moments from the late 90s.
@tomp5744
2 жыл бұрын
WCW dropped the ball. Again and again Hogan helped destroy a great thing. He should have lost clean could have won the 2nd match and then u have a 3rd 6months of main event book easy but hogan never could loose clean.
@TheDondajonhon46
2 жыл бұрын
The infamous Starrcade '97. This was the turning point in the Monday Night Wars.
@djspacehopper8728
2 жыл бұрын
16:25 Raven always pulled off a great looking DDT, but this one tops the lot.
@michaels.8309
2 жыл бұрын
So many possibilities for great matches, great feuds down the drain. Appreciated how you brought up how Scott Hall carried the big three in terms of matches for the NWO. I think a feud between him and Luger (or Hart if they actually wanted him to y'know, wrestle) could have been an awesome semi-main event. Of course not delivering on promoted matches will hurt them big time when people are paying to see certain stars. This was all eyes on WCW and they really screwed themselves here.
@toptenguy1
2 жыл бұрын
"HIS G-DAMN TAN!!" -Conrad to Bischoff lol
@Mark-xl1ze
2 жыл бұрын
That was classic. Just relistened to that.
@Andrew_TS
2 жыл бұрын
*Over a year of buildup where Sting hung around in the rafters, wearing a trenchcoat or other disguise. Bischoff: Sting wasn't tanned though. 🤦♂️
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