The difficulty spike from expert to legendary is fking intense
@MarvoldX
Жыл бұрын
ikrrrr lol i couldnt get a single win on legendary
@MateoTardio
Жыл бұрын
13:50 "Why do I hear boss music?" The horse with 12K HP is a different breed of nightmare
@lesliejacoby9137
Жыл бұрын
As dragged out as this mission is I do see the glints of what pve could've looked like. Winston with his special changes was easily the most fun as he had such unique playstyle and was satisfying. To add the enemy designs are amazing but it felt like it took to long to break off parts and at that point the enemy was dead (except the four legged missle guys). Finally you have the specific hero choices that add to the gameplay like how tracer should fetch the batteries since she can one shot the theives with her ult and beat them to it, lucio and torb prevent things from hurting the TS-1 unit, and winton doing monkey things 😅.
@tyrantworks9604
Жыл бұрын
The amount of HP to break a body apart is a roughly 40% including armor. I’m mixed on if it should be less or not, since I play by shooting legs off. I think if the legs could be shot off faster, it would be too easy, because crawlers are almost harmless
@lesliejacoby9137
Жыл бұрын
@tyrantworks9604 ik but like the arms and head (if you didn't know they keep fighting with their heads off). With the health being so high it doesn't feel responsive sometimes and people end up just shooting in general because the effects are hard to notice with also how health bar is shown.
@mindu5854
Жыл бұрын
*Winton doing monkey things*
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
what I love about this is just how much you need to learn through experimentation. For example, when you start out, you probably shoot the head, because it's a crit and it makes the ding sound. Eventually you learn you should aim for the right arm instead, because it take WAY less to take out the arm than the entire robot, but if the right arm gets busted, the bot can't shoot. If it can't shoot, it can't instakill you with it's INSANE ranged damage. That is just, like, one of the several, several things I learned to beat legendary mode. How to deal with bombers, 1v1 the battery thieves without dying, dodge projectiles, knowing when and who should get the battery while the rest fight to stay alive down a teammate, etc. The rockets are especially punishing, because they home in HARD, and a couple of those WILL one shot you. You need to have really good positioning to make sure that never happens. It was a real challenge to do this solo, I hope they do more of this stuff in the future.
@KieranMCK
Жыл бұрын
I felt like I was in the Movie theatre this video was so intense
@nathanwinters2400
Жыл бұрын
I think a good way to make Tracer's survivability a little better in this is that if Recall isn't on CD that fatal damage triggers Recall. I'm cool with her being a glass cannon but so many things can one shot her in the mode (I mean they melt Winton) so it'd be a small quality of life type of thing to make her just a bit harder to kill.
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
well technically, if the enemies melt everything, then tracer is the tankiest hero, because she can evade the most damage with her small hitbox and mobility
@empeeor3354
Жыл бұрын
@@aguyontheinternet8436this makes 0 sense lol
@infeinfe
Жыл бұрын
Managed to do this with randoms once, the battery section is so unfair that if you get slicers and most enemies can delete you in seconds making tanks useless against for example elite jumpjets
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
were you playing legendary? There are no slicers in legendary mode.
@infeinfe
Жыл бұрын
@@aguyontheinternet8436There are, its just based on luck, the same as vultures or stalkers and artillery or chargers are during the battery section, they have ruined quite a bit of runs for me because noone knew how to deal with them
@Absorbant
Жыл бұрын
@@aguyontheinternet8436Yes there are. For some reason, the enemy types are random on different attempts. Slicers, breachers, artillery, chargers, and stalkers are all affected by this.
@starlii10
Жыл бұрын
I pulled off an expert run with randoms only, never tried legendary though
@Joshdabozz
Жыл бұрын
@@Absorbant I do not believe Stalkers are affected, I do know Slicers are paired with Artiliary while Breachers are Paired with Chargers in this section
@hermanomacedo7549
Жыл бұрын
I knew flats was gonna have that reaction when he sees the "lore acurate" orisa and ana
@FetcheousRex
Жыл бұрын
So far underworld is the only legendary I’ve been able to beat, can’t wait to do it 3 more times
@Hietakissa
Жыл бұрын
the regular one was pretty easy, but the death from above modifier was pretty tough with no Lucio
@Li_Mn
Жыл бұрын
@@Hietakissaits not bad if you have competent teammates, i tried random teammates and kept getting silver and gold caliber players. In the end me and my friend duo'd DPS/tank respectively and it was fine. Tough but fine.
@Hietakissa
Жыл бұрын
@@Li_Mn yeah, all of the PvE content is very doable if you have decent teammates. Honestly, I think it took me longer to do Death From Above than Ironclad
@Li_Mn
Жыл бұрын
@@Hietakissa I thought death from above was going to be impossible tbh tried all the roles and it literally only took one of my friends and a third team mate actually communicating instead of potato Genji and brig players diving to their death.
@Waffl3B1T
Жыл бұрын
I can’t get it finished on legendary but I keep trying, I’m excited to see how you do it!
@a-aronander-son5861
Жыл бұрын
Them keeping Tracers health and having Lucio for support with Legendary difficulty achievements... this was criminal.
@nailinthefashion
Жыл бұрын
Sadism level: over 9000
@Kat-xp8zn
Жыл бұрын
As a tracer main, the main problem wasnt her health most of the time...i had a much harder time dealing with lucios thinking they are frogger and being knocked down every 2 seconds and didnt boop the robots back, and torbs that think their turret is inmortal and almost never used their ult for the biggest treats..if you play with cover and using your brain, surviving on tracer is the least of her problems
@spacix4118
Жыл бұрын
Lucio is actually a really good support in this for booping the bomb guys. Too bad he’s horrible at everything else
@pandolam4513
Жыл бұрын
@@spacix4118 Nah, unless you're bad playing with or as Lucio he's definitely great at doing dmg + surviving. The fact he also has an attack speed buff while on speed + it doesn't even require much coordination even with randos makes him vital towards a team's success. If you don't have a Lucio player playing him, it's a gg from the start.
@Kat-xp8zn
Жыл бұрын
@@pandolam4513 that's the thing, people come to the hardest difficulty to try chars they do not main, or playing an off role, bro if you are masters in support and gold in tank, why the fuck are you instalocking Winston? This is beyond me
@dreadpumpkin896
Жыл бұрын
I love Flats video titles lmao Always get a lil chuckle out of him trying to fit all the buzzwords in
@akiteee
Жыл бұрын
i know this is probably too late, but may still be useful for other map release or next time you play. it's a hard risk because of no heals but lucio can carry the large batteries faster with movement speed boost and it will still let you use your amp, unlike tracer blink or winston jump which can't be used when carrying large batteries.
@rayraythebrew2863
Жыл бұрын
I just juggle the battery. Throw it in front of you, run ahead of it, grab it by looking back, spin 180°< and throw it again. It basically negates the negative effects
@lesliejacoby9137
Жыл бұрын
The number of people not knowing how to use Winston in this was astonishing to me.
@tenjingqodh
Жыл бұрын
How are you supposed to use him ?
@lesliejacoby9137
Жыл бұрын
@tenjingtamang812 the jump mechanic as almost every Winton I saw just didn't use it. I'm not talking about flats btw.
@vanishl.2693
Жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair winton is hard to use well
@janvandenhooren9397
Жыл бұрын
I feel like most people just zone out while defending the robot thing for 15 minutes. Can't blame them.
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
@zeldacereza but the lucio also needs to speed boost for the speed and attack boost
@tyronebiggems5135
Жыл бұрын
The seagull we got lucky and flats agreement instantly reminded me of that rick and morty "we almost didn't make it" and I died laughing
@SERASORCERER
Жыл бұрын
9:07 this part was crazy 😭😭
@lordsatan8631
Жыл бұрын
I managed to do expert random queing on the like 10th attempt, ain't trying legend without friends 😂😂
@PomLamb
Жыл бұрын
I was extremely lucky. Made it passed expert second try. We died last point and won on the second life. Bit of a typo there. Also by second try I mean 2 of three attempts.
@infeinfe
Жыл бұрын
I did legend with randoms somehow, got very lucky with my teammates as all of them knew what they were doing. Now, i did spend like 20 attempts on this, but still, getting really good randoms is always great Now to get extremly lucky 3 more times, i almost beat the modifier already but we died on ana and orisa
@PomLamb
Жыл бұрын
@@infeinfe Well I managed to get expert done for death from above aslo. We made it on our last attempt. I don't think I will do the Legendary difficulty at this time though.
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
after taking a day and a half to beat legendary mode, expert mode is a cakewalk in comparison.
@PomLamb
Жыл бұрын
@@aguyontheinternet8436 Definitely agree. I feel expected expert to be harder than it was. Legendary is be above and beyond in terms of extreme challenge. The only 2 pve I won in legendary mode was Junkenstein revenge hero swap and the regur junkenstein endless that gets the Mercy spray. I am pretty proud of those.
@Kaleryna2
Жыл бұрын
I've been having a hard time with this, granted I'm doing randos who either 1) ALL go get certain batteries from the stealers leaving me on charging station by myself 2) the tank is taking so much damage I can't keep them healed up and they don't grab health packs
@spiderknight5184
Жыл бұрын
I think is was solder 76 in the cutseen
@napalmballwipes
Жыл бұрын
Everyone knew the pve had potential I don't think a single person when they heard it mentioned in the teaser pre release imagine we lived in a world where we've had constant mission coming out for the last 7 or whatever years It is just crazy that they had the idea used it as marketing remove it when they released it for being unsure it would sell then when the game sells they still didn't do shit and added a hero like once a year for 7 or whatever years too long
@Xlr8Editsz608
Жыл бұрын
Love watching people play pve tbh
@MarvoldX
Жыл бұрын
sameeeeeeeeee
@theshadowmaster2702
Жыл бұрын
Do you get a title or anything for beating regular legendary mode ? Or is there only a title for doing the 3 modifiers ? I spent about 2 weeks trying to finish the regular one in legendary mode and finally did it just now.
@Andreas8455pp
Жыл бұрын
I beat the 2 of the challanges.They re very difficult.Jesus im not doing this again
@AlphaColinS
Жыл бұрын
The thing that pulls and kills you instant wont pull you if you are standing near it. It will only try to hit you with something.
@Burrito_Express
Жыл бұрын
I believe that what you believe was soldier 76 was in fact... A normal talon grunt
@el1fie
Жыл бұрын
I've only done rio legendary, no motivation to try do the other ones
@xandanitrying2917
Жыл бұрын
I tried this on legendary with my friends for hours but we kept getting 2 stalkers at once and it wrecked us
@nononolistenlisten
Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't that have been reaper in that cutscene? 🤨
@RematodeRanger
Жыл бұрын
The only complaint I have with pve is that when you use AI you dont get stat compensation of any kind. Sometimes AI wont revive you as they're qued for another action, or just does something very useless. Plus their ult usage sucks. i think for every ai team member, every human team member should get a 5% buff to maxhp and dmg. This way solo players can still h 3:07 ave a chance vs legendary difficulty.
@Hietakissa
Жыл бұрын
honestly the AI were better than the teammates I got
@aerostar1334
Жыл бұрын
Do the enemies change? I don't think i saw many slicers/chickens in their run, or even see one at all. When I attempted it, there was a lot of them which is how I lost cuz they just passively do damage over time that when you are at the last 2 batteries you die cuz of the amount of slicers just chipping away the health of the robot.
@Thoast_
Жыл бұрын
It seems to "randomly" decide on whether you get slicers or breachers, stalkers or vultures, and chargers or artillery, for the mission.
@mayonasepizza
Жыл бұрын
The one where you get bombarded is terrible becouse when some one leaves, the bot just cant dodge the missiles
@agentboi4794
Жыл бұрын
Flats seeing imaginary soldier feet 😭
@thijn71
Жыл бұрын
I did it with randoms it was so hard i hated the slicers after 15 matches i did it 😂
@Smght1
Жыл бұрын
was it 1st try? cuz they've got best rolls of bosses and bombs on 1st point
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
no
@hellyeah6432
Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough I had an easier time on legendary with the death from above modifier. If only because you can kill the big enemies with the air strikes
@xblack6010
Жыл бұрын
Please can you help me ?
@KitCat.O_o
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the "soldier" is just a talon trooper
@isaacjones6323
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've settled for feeling good about finishing the missions on expert
@janvandenhooren9397
Жыл бұрын
Without communication that is the best you can do with randoms
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
@@janvandenhooren9397 I beat legendary mode solo. It just took a couple days, and a lot of learning about the mechanics of the new mode is all.
@thijn71
Жыл бұрын
@@janvandenhooren9397somehow i did it with randoms on legendary
@tofu1639
Жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn’t beaten legendary yet playing tracer ain’t fun lol
@KennReed
Жыл бұрын
Tracer is a sponge cake in this mode
@moayadalshammari5510
Жыл бұрын
bro howwww the 2nd part is so hard
@dominicharvey6048
Жыл бұрын
The new underworld mission is 10x harder than this
@spacix4118
Жыл бұрын
Nah it’s so much easier DVA is OP
@dominicharvey6048
Жыл бұрын
@spacix4118 me and other random people played on hard and got wrecked. I always play on expert on the first one.
@Hietakissa
Жыл бұрын
yeah, it was pretty tough. It only took me 5 attempts to beat the regular one on legendary, but like 2 hours to beat the modifier. The TS-1 charging part is the hardest (mainly the 3rd wave), the rest is pretty easy. If you have trouble beating it try using the explosions to kill the breachers and genji can pretty easily solo the elite jumpjets with deflect to get batteries
@kuhkluia
Жыл бұрын
Modifier #1 drops today for underworld
@aguyontheinternet8436
Жыл бұрын
:O
@ljb5163
Жыл бұрын
They really put ML7 Ana in the game lol
@WaffleIGuess
Жыл бұрын
Now do it again but with the modifier
@technounionrepresentative4274
Жыл бұрын
The 2nd level is impossible with randoms
@epicmaster4417
Жыл бұрын
I gave up on legendary mode title is not worth
@skeletor_118
Жыл бұрын
This was hard af yes... But how about Death From Above legendary? With soldier and genji and mercy/brig? That shit is almost as bad as Toronto legendary
@Dominic-s1c
Жыл бұрын
top 3 over watch streamers Jay3 Flats and aqward
@Robomania06
Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a mission worse than the archives from half a decade ago
@nailinthefashion
Жыл бұрын
This is the most boring piece of content they have put out so far, horrifically worse than Starquest, and that was already horrible.
@JomiLo-o8p
Жыл бұрын
hmm
@matthew_mage2363
Жыл бұрын
The missions weren't very good
@leftovaramen
Жыл бұрын
early asfff
@nesst0182
Жыл бұрын
1st
@Dominic-s1c
Жыл бұрын
i was a few seconds late
@aptemkaua7891
Жыл бұрын
Honest question to Flats: Who Asked
@TR-ju5re
Жыл бұрын
Well up to this exact moment.....25 thousand people wanted to know.
@notangel8328
Жыл бұрын
ily flats you’re my fave streamer who I never get to watch live
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