We desperately need more support for Oculink or something like it. I think a lot of people would embrace more laptops and SFF if they had a powerful "dock" for when they get to their destination/home.
@kbhasi
Жыл бұрын
I agree, as I ended up finding that I was better off with a custom desktop PC as a primary device and small laptop as secondary, then access the former from the latter using one of a few remote access apps.
@colinmcbottle
Жыл бұрын
We just need bandwidth updates on the USB spec. USB4.0 was a good change in that regard, as it demanded 4 lanes for thunderbolt. Before it was device dependant. We just need USB5.0 to 2x the bandwdith, USB6 2x again, etc etc. Just keep up within reason with PCI-E lane increases. Propietay connectors are not the way to go. eGPU is already a mess even with the standarized usb-c connection because of 2/4 lanes thing I mentioned on TB
@dreadlord9257
Жыл бұрын
@@colinmcbottle USB has almost never kept pace with anything. Once we go to PCIE5, then PCIE6 it will be the same problem all over. That's why I suggested something like ePCIE, sort of what eSata did for Sata back when that was the hdd norm. I do agree, it cannot/should not be proprietary.
@NatrajChaturvedi
Жыл бұрын
Egpus also need to become sensibly priced. If they were sensibly priced, more ppl would ebrace the 'dock' experience.
@Comm0ut
9 ай бұрын
Desktops are already a minority of sales but they don't take much more space (measured in square centimeters, not esthetic desire for minimalist art but that's valid too) than another complete, more powerful machine. Owning at least two PCs so one has instant backup is wise.
@richardmcgowan1651
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see these types of things developed more over time. A mini PC setup with a plug and play GPU dock I can turn off and on when needed.
@Kirby5588
Жыл бұрын
Browsing and watching streams by day, gaming by night!
@duckpwnd
Жыл бұрын
At this point, I really don't see much of an advantage something like this over an mITX build
@LuminousSpace
Жыл бұрын
Not really mitx 4l build still big and cannot use gpu@@duckpwnd
@fawaz908
Жыл бұрын
400$ for the minisform , 600$ for the egpu , that's a 1000$ , for the same price you can build a 12400f 6700xt Mini ITX pc that can preform a lot better and has a good upgradability path as well. This is just a cute expensive toy
@zeighy
Жыл бұрын
But, can you throw that in your bag? Or hide it completely behind your monitor on a vesa mount?
@fawaz908
Жыл бұрын
@@zeighy if you're thinking about portability,a laptop is the answer , especially after factoring in the cost for portable monitor & a keyboard For 1200$ you can get a laptop with better overall performance and the same upgradability not mentioning a laptop comes with a battery This setup can only make sense if the gpu was a bit cheaper, something in the realm of 400$
@CrumpetsNBiscuits
Жыл бұрын
Looking like you know your stuff, Do you recommend gaming laptops for a desktop user? Heat, noise seem like a real problem. I'm debating this issue for a long time
@fawaz908
Жыл бұрын
@@CrumpetsNBiscuits only if you really need it and being Mobile most of the time , also keep away from ultralight gaming laptops
@zeighy
Жыл бұрын
@@fawaz908 Yes, but you really are missing the point. If someone wanted a laptop, they wouldn't be a question and they wouldn't be looking at this. NOBODY that wants NEEDS a laptop would be considering this. If someone was looking at this setup, they would have their own reasons as to why. Some level of portability? Aesthetics (hide it away)? lots of other reasons. You're so narrow minded on the idea. Just because it isn't for you and you can't justify it for yourself, doesn't mean other people would have no reason to justify it for themselves. Let people spend their money how they want. They have their own priorities.
@techhd541
Жыл бұрын
If priced right the GPD G1 is going to be really popular with quite a few people who purchased a mini pc that has 40 Gbps Thunderbolt/USB4 port. I would love to see a comparison using the same setup vs something like Minisforum HX99G with RX 6600M. The desktop RX 7600 wasn't exactly all that popular, but I think the RX 7600M will be sougth after.
@griftgfx
Жыл бұрын
I think it highly depends on the price. Can you see this thing costing less than a 6700XT? I can't.
@efr89
Жыл бұрын
I have the Minisforum HX80G. It scores about 8100 in TimeSpy for GPU and 10500 for CPU. The 7600 is within 10% range so the difference won’t be that big. That said having a modular option is definitely good to future proof the mini pc. But it all depends on the pricing i guess. If it comes with a huge premium over a normal graphics card I would say the HX80G is still the better deal.
@EzaneeGires
Жыл бұрын
The total all-in cost may just make me consider building an ITX PC for same value. But yeah the egpu option is justified if you already own a mini PC from this type of manufacturer
@baka_ja_nai
Жыл бұрын
Any ITX PC will still be orders of magnitude bigger. And this build is obviously for those who want to minimize as much as possible.
@EzaneeGires
Жыл бұрын
@@baka_ja_nai ok
@allthings3d
Жыл бұрын
This is a much smarter solution, or just buy a laptop, which is what all these devices (including the miniPC) are using internally. At one time, it made sense to buy a NUC or miniPC since laptops with the same components cost twice as much. These days, you can buy a laptop less than a NUC (which is why Intel is getting out of the business). What aggravates me is the GPU manufacturers could make a small form factor discrete GPU that could easily fit in single PCIe slot on a minITX, but that is not where the money is. Also, companies like HP or Dell are no longer the leaders in defining standards with the prominence of Lenovo, ASUS, Acer and MSI crowding the field leaving sadly small Chinese companies to lead the way in this area, which are not always the best at innovation, hence the flurry of copycat portable gaming devices.
@bakakafka4428
Жыл бұрын
The price of that GPD eGPU never gets mentioned... that's a bad sign. A separate case and standard desktop card probably will be cheaper and much more performant.
@efr89
Жыл бұрын
Bro have a look at the Minisforum HX80G. Performance difference is very small and that comes in at around 599$ for the base model. It will surely be cheaper.
@cubaezb
Жыл бұрын
$655 on indiegogo
@coryhunnicutt123187
6 ай бұрын
$699 for 7600m and it goes up from there you can get a 7900xt for around that lol
@DrakeTech-kh8hs
Жыл бұрын
WOw... Impressive how cool and efficient the GPU is.
@christopher480
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting your sponsor ad in a timestamp :)
@erichanson5628
Жыл бұрын
Off topic but could you do a comparison of the Minisforum UM790 Pro -vs- BeeLink GTR7 PRO 7940HS?
@qvivnb
Жыл бұрын
If you're willing to use an USB WiFi / bluetooth adapter you could probably get an Oculink setup going with this as the mini PC has two M.2 2230 slots (one for storage and one for the WiFi / bluetooth card).
@TalooshDaBoss
Жыл бұрын
Aren't the wifi ports lower bandwidth? X1 or smth, or slower speed or smth
@stefancuevas6596
Жыл бұрын
Wifi slots are A/E key which means they only have one or two lanes of PCI-E. An alternative would be to get a Thunderbolt SSD adapter and use that as the boot drive, with oculink taking the m.2 slot.
@primepikachu5
Жыл бұрын
I used to really love watching videos about new form factors and smaller and smaller computers but ever since the steam deck came out I've been extremely satisfied with the price of smaller and portable PCs
@kevinbbadd
Жыл бұрын
Steam deck is dead
@rickkarrer8370
Жыл бұрын
Since that PC has soldered RAM, I would definitely spend the extra $30 to take it to 32GB.
@youraveragedillon5958
Жыл бұрын
From the thumbnail I thought you were reviewing a walkie talkie
@kennethd4958
Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at those eGPU's and wondering how well they worked and then BAM you have a video up about one lol
@notreallyhim
Жыл бұрын
This is great for portable gaming, especially emulator gaming.
@colinmcbottle
Жыл бұрын
IMO laptop + SFF PC + moonlight over LAN is a more performant, easier to upgrade solution. The expense is just a tiny bit more space (I have a 5LT 12400+3070 case that fits standard I/O shields from mobo/gpu, but you can probably do 4LT if you go custom I/O shields)
@dave3k
Жыл бұрын
What's the total price and weight of the system? I'm really interested in portability so weights of all systems you review (inc power supply) would be so helpful!
@jamesyu5212
Жыл бұрын
The egpu is around 700 bucks. The minipc is around 400 bare bones.
@arseniyshapurov
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesyu5212 700? Where? I heard it's around $1000
@jamesyu5212
Жыл бұрын
@@arseniyshapurov Indiegogo.
@vinyfiny
Жыл бұрын
@@arseniyshapurovThe dock is supposed to be $655 on Indiegogo as reported by Tom's Hardware.
@rrahll
Жыл бұрын
I also want to know the final price to be honest
@sk0mi
Жыл бұрын
Any productivity showcases? Can you use it as a very small portable editing unit? With some portable monitors maybe? I know, most software is way better working with Nvidia, but still can you do some decent jobs in decent time while on the road? I'd like to see that, might be useful to know how good would it be for content creators or any productivity tasks. I imagine it will not be full desktop experience but how much worse would it be? Does it have any potential or it's just gaming? Thank you
@AshtonCoolman
Жыл бұрын
At a certain point, I think we should just get a gaming laptop. This is seriously cool and tiny, but there's a point where a laptop makes more sense.
@cypherian2
Жыл бұрын
Nice Setup! Love how powerful these systems are getting! Unrelated Question: Where do you get your animated wallpapers?
@trustytrojan
Жыл бұрын
wallpaper engine on steam of course
@murdock94
Жыл бұрын
Cannot wait until RX 7000 LP cards come out.
@ETAPRIME
Жыл бұрын
I really hope we get them this year
@murdock94
Жыл бұрын
You and me both. I'm building a rig in an Goodisory A02 case and either I go A2000 or wait to see if RX 7000s are worth it.
@Boredealis
Жыл бұрын
This is very nice for portability, one to bring to a lan party. Also, CONGRATULATIONS ON REACHING 1MIL SUBSCRIBERS!
@alt666
Жыл бұрын
Wish i could find an oculink nvme thing for my laptop
@xellaz
Жыл бұрын
If I'm going to replace my humongous gaming PC, it will be similar to this! Modularity is the future! This doesn't take that much space and you have the option to either use the eGPU or just the APU depending on what you're doing. I must say though that USB4 is such a big disappointment with the hype for it a while back. I have a USB4 eGPU dock too (Razer Chromax) and the performance sux. I'm more than willing to switch to Oculink or any similar tech that can actually take full advantage of the GPU as if it's directly connected to the mobo. That said, I would like GPD (or any decent tech company) to make an eGPU enclosure using Oculink that can fit massive GPUs easily and can use full fledge PSUs that are user-replaceable. I would like to fit my old 1080Ti or 2080Ti I still have in it. 🤤
@JasperPerri
Жыл бұрын
I see a future for pcs that I really hope will happen in this video. A computer that can game without a gpu and then plug and play gpu dock... Just upgrade one part without needing to expose motherboards and stuff. Absolutely amazing. Wanna keep an ancient gpu? Just keep upgrading the cpu til it outdoes the gpu. I see it baby. I dont think i would build my own personal computers anymore if it was broken down this way.
@HuntaKiller91
Жыл бұрын
Thinking of pairing the G1 with gmktec 6800h someday That minipc barebones is close to $320 now
@allthings3d
Жыл бұрын
Considering this is not available to anyone yet, I have to assume you received it to evaluate and promote. With that being said, with a retail price of $795.00 and the cost of the miniPC being at least $500, you are looking at spending $1300 for these two items. Connecting via USB4 is no match for Oculink which is only PCI gen 3 X4, while the RX 7600M is PCIe gen 4 X8 . As much as I love small form factor PCs, I don’t see how this would be better than spending the same amount, if not substantially less on a laptop with more memory and a RTX4060. Even better, you get a keyboard, monitor and battery system built in. If you don’t like that, find one of these laptops and pull out the laptop board and make a new case for it (like you did in a previous episode) and it will still be cheaper. These external video card systems only make sense when they are $200-$400 including GPU, or you are stuck with an older Mac mini or MacBook that is still running Intel iGPU. Even then, it almost makes more sense to just buy a PC if you need a discrete video card; which is the only way with newer Mx based Macs since you CAN’T USE Discrete GPUs.
@ChrisEmu
Жыл бұрын
Should you be worried when the system is averaging 60 -70 degrees Celsius? 4:28 The temperature was 44 degrees Celsius by just turning on the pc and checking the status... I don't know much about mini PC's but isn't heat bad for that little thing 6:27 62 degrees and 72 degrees 7:00 53 degrees and 75 degrees 7:39 64 degrees and 79 degrees 8:09 56 degrees and 76 degrees 8:50 52 degrees and 75 degrees
@Rkcuddles
11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait till eGPUs become the norm.
@johnnysmalls2876
Жыл бұрын
it's so sad you don't do any Emulation videos anymore
@WarkWarbly
Жыл бұрын
Combine this with a pico projector and I think there's some nostalgic camping going on. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 My friend has (had?) A similar setup but a laptop and eGPU with a pico. Certainly a way to pass the time 😂
@maniac_magee3830
Жыл бұрын
Also what might be an improvement on performance..... usb 4/thunderbolt/oculink all connect the egpu via a pcie 4x interface. Nvidia cards don't like playing nice running at a depreciated bandwidth, whilst AMD cards don't have a problem interacting through pcie 4x as that's a common bandwidth for a crossfire setup
@jrovanievassell3159
Жыл бұрын
This looks very nice
@markhaus
Жыл бұрын
If only GPD didn’t put the thunderbolt cable in front you could’ve made a really slick and clean setup for it with little effort
@WeAreMovieMakers
Жыл бұрын
I have my doubt about those Windows keys being legit.
@Zoyx
Жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE FUTURE OF GAMING PCS!!! Probably isn't, but I really like this option.
@toms.1417
8 ай бұрын
Where can I get that cool Thunderbolt cable?
@Mani-zt2ge
6 ай бұрын
if i want to play game i'm not gonna buy this. but my ideal work is i get up to 100 fps and 4k on somthing like odyssey ARK with this setup just for normal use such as web browsing, coding, hight multitasking with perfect and beautiful desktop effect on linux!
@dotdot224
Жыл бұрын
This will be the best setup for me , I like it very much U get a really good idea
@thomasfischer9259
Жыл бұрын
so close to perfection. If the GPU had 16gb of ram and the CPU was 12 core....
@kuyache2
Жыл бұрын
Just like proper mixing and matching for DIY desktop PC's, one should also match components on these tiny interconnectible micro pc's and this GPD G1 should always be connected via its Oculink port to native oculink port on the host device or via M.2 converter. Only use usb4 if oculink connection cannot be made. For everybody else that doesn't own a decently powerful micro pc that is compatible with GPD G1, just get a gaming laptop of similar or better specs ^_^ which im sure will cost cheaper and easier to lug around.
@arseniyshapurov
Жыл бұрын
Please make this with Oculink via m2 slot of UM790 Pro.
@juangsantos
Жыл бұрын
How well can it run Blender?
@PhotoJohn80
Жыл бұрын
Hope these mini PCs start to use oculink
@mitchellllora48
Жыл бұрын
I have watched so many of your videos and have only heard you, so I don't understand who "we" are in the titles😂.
@Argooh
Жыл бұрын
I would ditch the animated background while benchmarking.
@btarg1
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at the lack of LPDDR5, but this thing is still way better than my PC in less than a quarter of the form factor lol
@vramxn7793
Жыл бұрын
i wish there was something like this but battery powered, and no not a laptop
@Xbui.23
Жыл бұрын
Msrp: 2x Kidneys 😊
@brandoneadie8566
Жыл бұрын
This is what I was going to try sort of. make something super small. lol
@rrahll
Жыл бұрын
thats cool. thanks mate!
@SynthfulDuck
Жыл бұрын
I'm getting more than one notification about the same video, even days after it has been uploaded, weird.
@TotenMaske
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a PCIe adapter oculink card used - namely in maybe HP Slimeline like the 270-p024 -(mainly due to the fact I picked one up for free from a friend and would like to make it into a decent living room gaming rig without too much expense).
@thoongchinglee4905
Жыл бұрын
Try it with the K2
@gbrltnggn
Жыл бұрын
can you test it with an ultrabook just using thunderbolt and laptop screen
@AlevityXiaku
Жыл бұрын
Imagine building a custom chassis for this thing
@HitnRunTony
Жыл бұрын
Next mini PC will fit in the controller
@guywithjeep
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately minisforum is basically abandonware. They refuse to provide bios updates. Leaving systems open for bugs and exploits.
@jtbrunick
Жыл бұрын
GPD + HG99X test, please!
@MarceloAugusto-fb1lx
Жыл бұрын
Is very hard to see your videos at night lol
@itsmechg
Жыл бұрын
3D print a case and pack in single case
@griftgfx
Жыл бұрын
How much does that eGPU cost? I feel like this is going to come in a good deal higher similar spec'd laptops (and probably more powerful desktops).
@LiLBitsDK
Жыл бұрын
@@AcapellaPunk because it hasn't launched yet... what he got is just an early preview sample...
@griftgfx
Жыл бұрын
@@LiLBitsDK It's pretty odd that GPD is sending out review units when they haven't even launched their crowdfunding campaign, and haven't told anyone how much the unit is going to cost. All of the coverage on this thing is recommending it as a viable option, and that viability is completely dependent on the price. Which I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess is quite high for a 7600M. We'll see. Crowd funding a completely developed product is pretty sus to begin with tbh.
@LiLBitsDK
Жыл бұрын
@@griftgfx one of the review sites mentions a price... and it wasn't cheap
@golosfardyrekr5408
Жыл бұрын
nice mini PC, but where to get the wallpaper from BTTF? ;-))
@michaelknight8797
Жыл бұрын
Hey ETA your live wallpaper is cool.. mind share link where u get it?
@matanrevivo5860
Жыл бұрын
That animated Retrowave car background is slick! Where can I find it?
@lukassiatka
Жыл бұрын
Are you sure the RAM in the specs is really correct stating it's LPDDR4X at 6400MT/s? I've never seen LPDDR4X clocked that high, it usually tops at 4266MT/s. Also, Ryzen 6800U doesn't have an integrated DDR4/LPDDR4 controller, but DDR5/LPDDR5 instead, so this ram may be LPDDR5x at 6400MT/s.
@marcelomontenegrosantos808
Жыл бұрын
Please, where i find this wallpaper ? I love it !!!
@Ibiky_Stern
Жыл бұрын
Mmm, wanna this setup 😭
@its1one
Жыл бұрын
I like that. I can see the vision now. When I saw your review video of the GPU I was kinda on the fence with it. Any idea when the GPU sales go live? Or any idea on price. I couldn't find it the other day. Thanks for the videos
@cannibalwombat
Жыл бұрын
I thought the EM680 has LPDDR5 RAM, not LPDDR4x as you mention? Indeed 6400MHz I don't think is possible with LPDDR4x. Also, I love your videos, but it would be super helpful if you mention the spec of the I/O as you list them e.g. HDMI 2.0, 2.1, 2.1 TMDS, DP 1.2, 1.4 etc.
@ChaosSaotome
Жыл бұрын
I know this may seem like an odd idea but is the port next to the USB-C Port on the ROG Ally an OCulink port? Would this work with that if it is? Now I'm really curious if instead of using getting the XG Mobile, it's possible to just get one of the OCulink to PCIe x16 adapter and make your own external GPU. Just a though.
@chamoo232
Жыл бұрын
The Ally doesn't support any third party Egpu. Only the XG
@ChaosSaotome
Жыл бұрын
@@chamoo232 I figured as much. Just wasn’t sure if anyone tried an oculink set up like what the gpd g1. Thanks for the reply!
@orangesock6231
Жыл бұрын
Yo what’s that windows wallpaper at 1:15? It’s fire
@AaronHendu
Жыл бұрын
I had been designing something like this for my laptop for awhile now...well, something very similar. Now I can just buy this or wait for other brands to take a stab at it. I still might build my own because i am cheap and would use some oem low power gpu. And if i build one, I would like it to "plug in" to my laptop as a module with no cables. I could even buy a used laptop chassis and use it to make one that looks like it was made specifically for my laptop.
@paulopdm13
Жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison of G1+WinMax2+External Monitor connected to Oculink and USB4. I keep hearing that there is less hit on performance on USB4 if it is connected to external monitor but we have no proof yet.
@ariffmus
Жыл бұрын
Is this setup gonna be cheaper than buying a laptop with same performance? (considering we already have monitor n keyboard)
@jrovanievassell3159
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what's the price
@Yuseigachi
11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly for this video, could you make a similar video with a Beelink GTR7 Pro and a GPD G1 eGPU. I have this combination, but I can't get it to work with Win11 Pro. Thank you in advance.
@TheFyend
Жыл бұрын
Looking at about $1200+ for those 2 items. Cool I guess if you really need to save some desk space.
@Maximus20778
Жыл бұрын
What's with the forza horizon 5 test? The speedometers have glitched movement
@shinra358
Жыл бұрын
ayo, i need that wallpaper 😮
@cmdrclassified
Жыл бұрын
What is the total power usage, form the wall that is? Thanks. And have a great day, Sir! o7
@jinn7612
4 ай бұрын
I'm just curious what's the brand of the cable your using? Thanks!
@claytonyoung1351
8 ай бұрын
Can you show what kind of performance this egpu will give at 4k? I know it will be low, but just curious.
@vinyfiny
Жыл бұрын
I feel like this is only a useful setup if you plan on using the mini PC in different desktop locations (like game at home but take the computer to work or something). Otherwise just get a laptop if you need portability or build an ITX desktop if you dont but still want something relatively small.
@LiLBitsDK
Жыл бұрын
but laptops aren't nice to type on, the screen is annoying and if you add an extra screen the setup gets even weirder... with this little thing you can use a proper keyboard... use a nice dual monitor setup and put that tiny box over in the corner powered by one of the monitors... simple...
@karlallantola3703
Жыл бұрын
😮 It looks cool!!
@JITISH1
Жыл бұрын
Just curious to know why more laptops don't support oculink? And is it something we could see more often in the near future?
@thatsux0rz
Жыл бұрын
Probably licensing - same reason you don't see TB4 on lots of laptops except for the $2k+ ones.
@JITISH1
Жыл бұрын
@@thatsux0rz I could be wrong but I though Oculink was open source. I'm sure ETA mentioned it in one of the reviews for one of the GPD Devices.... I think it's industry more wanting to find their own ways of proprietry connectors to make consumers spend more. Like the XGm on the ROG Flow and ROG Ally, that really just seems like a way to close the eco-system. Else I am sure they could have easily used Oculink.
@darunealbane
Жыл бұрын
The ATF should be a store not a gov Bureau
@ramaropadilla
Жыл бұрын
Hello good morning can you test the performance of the GPD G1 with the asus rog ally.
@bedsbay1
Жыл бұрын
Would it not be possible to add a sim card module so this could be used with 4oaming data?
@whitygoose
Жыл бұрын
i hoped that asus egpu was as small as that.
@ShawnShaman
Жыл бұрын
Wallpaper... Where can I get that wallpaper?!
@D.AverageJoe
Жыл бұрын
Why didnt you use the m.2 to oculink adapter
@muratakcan1299
Жыл бұрын
ETA, don't be upset about the top comment being " this is just a laptop..." %90 of people here I believe knows that its not... I mean come on it has nothing related to laptops !... Looking from outside it might just be a Wifi modem and a powerbank glued together lol ! ... Just nay sayers who can't assemble or afford it, whining... This thing you've made is art (that u can actually enjoy daily) to most of us ! Get rekt, normies the times are a'changing !
@jprototype
Жыл бұрын
What kind of power is that pulling all together? Looks super efficient.
@waldowsxxghostxx8577
11 ай бұрын
Is the thunderbolt port over occulink worth using on the recent igpu radion 780m?
@wangzhihui4489
Жыл бұрын
Can you test G1 with beelink SER mini PC too? In specific 7735HS?
@peppaz
Жыл бұрын
Where can we get that live desktop tho lol
@RA73690
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that wallpaper it looks awesome
@techknowbabble
Жыл бұрын
How about this with the LattePanda Sigma
@justinpatterson5291
11 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to show others how to get one in australia?
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