I got to briefly talk with Tosin after AAL's first show in Dayton, OH at the Attic. We spoke about them not using a Bass player and he told me that their keyboard player (who was in the band at the time) was triggering samples and was playing bass parts to fill in specific areas. I always wondered why they never got a bassist once they fired the keyboardist. Supposedly they use backing tracks, but every time I've seen them since, it still feels emotionally flat. Javier is almost inaudible at times because of where he sits in the mix. 8 strings is low, but the frequency spectrum of an electric guitar through a guitar amp is so different from a bass. I think their mixes, both studio and live, would greatly improve from the inclusion of an actual bassist.
@guavaraj1088
2 жыл бұрын
man you know what I just saw them in philly a couple days ago and Javier mix is low. Concert was awesome though
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
On this current tour, they're using UmanskyBass for their bass backing track on the older songs. How meta, Jacob plays in Intervals, then virtual Jacob is playing in AAL directly after 😂
@guavaraj1088
2 жыл бұрын
@@SubMissionAudioOfficial that's low key wild
@SilverMusicAndGaming
2 жыл бұрын
i dont trust anyones opinion when they dont know what flat means. And if you somehow do know what it means and did use that right, im sure JAVIER REYES is Flat, and youre the only person who can hear it.
@pernauldthevisch5907
2 жыл бұрын
@@SilverMusicAndGaming I meant "flat" in the emotional sense (boring, bland, lacking emotional depth), not EQ or dynamics. I should have specified because of the context, but hey, it's just a youtube comment after all... *but I still fixed it for you 😉
@heavenly2k
2 жыл бұрын
Dude that bass sounded SO nice, I'm impressed.
@TybudX
2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear Amos Williams play on an AAL track. I think he'd really nail it as far as adding to the song goes.
@ethan_djoseph
2 жыл бұрын
THIS
@willemstander8400
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I have been watching you race forever and now I am so stoked to find out you're a god-tier mastering engineer! Awesome!
@Mini_Celeste
2 жыл бұрын
Legit just scrolling my youtube recommendeds and was like "Wait, is that Hamsandwich?!" Pretty damn pog, tbh!
@matthiewhall4717
Жыл бұрын
I had the opposite experience where I found out the guy who basically taught me to mix drums was also a sim racer hahaha
@drumbum41
2 жыл бұрын
i saw Intervals open for Animals as Leaders last week in denver and honestly Animals' set sounded flat without a bass player... maybe the audio tech was sleeping, but Intervals' set sounded WAY better... bigup to Jake
@joriankell1983
2 жыл бұрын
That's just what happens without Bass. It has no bottom end.
@samcarlen6097
2 жыл бұрын
They play to tracks my dude. Synths/extra guitars/and bass are all included in the live show. Live bass or not it wouldn't really make a difference. Sounds like it was the PA/subs causing your experience cause I'm the house FOH engineer at a venue they just played at and it sounded great at our venue.
@renanmarchet9865
2 жыл бұрын
I loved AAL set. However, Intervals audio was far better. The ground was shaking from the bass. It was wild.
@goldfishpartyy
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't even like Intervals that much but unfortunately it was much easier to enjoy that part of the show because of the sound
@boarderking133
2 жыл бұрын
They have bass in the backing tracks
@_Frost_42
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I watch your sim racing channel all the time as an avid sim racer myself. I'm also a solo artist / home recorder and I come to find out that you have this channel AND mastered the new intervals album!? New favorite content creator right here. You're the man!
@joshjones9749
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Tosin playing straight bass on an album 😳😳😳
@TheArtheanos
2 жыл бұрын
I like the part when he says "Let's take a listen to this all in the mix" and then skips to the end of the song
@renamleah
Жыл бұрын
Even with smartphone this bass sounds badass. Well done, and thank you, I remember you since the systematic mixing guide 10 years ago, still the best mixing book on shelves
@jacobsmith1877
2 жыл бұрын
Once again, confirming that Animals As Leaders would benefit from having a bassist
@andresisais6069
2 жыл бұрын
Thing is they do use bass on the albums
@deathmetalglenn
2 жыл бұрын
@@andresisais6069 Exactly! The productions would sound terrible if there was no low end in the mix
@ianvaldes3073
2 жыл бұрын
AIL has bass on every record. I believe Nolly Getgood was the bass player on The Joy Of Motion if I remember correctly
@macklehnertmusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianvaldes3073 Nolly did some and Misha did a few as well
@jdjdjdjjc6535
2 жыл бұрын
Or a drummer that didn’t ruin the songs with constant solos
@progun1corn
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I just realized that you are also the sim racing guy, I felt similiar when I watched the intro and I suddenly realized that lol BTW I really love your bass library, Djinn bass worked great for me. But Umansky is one of my favorite bass players, I may buy this too, it sounds excellent Edit: Just bought it, works like a dream!
@Vardoulika
2 жыл бұрын
That was legit! I would love to hear the whole song with the bass added in!
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
You can hear it on Tosin Abasi's youtube channel "Gordian Naugh" Playthrough
@davidviera3347
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Submission Audio! You take note with the incredible step forward GroveBass keep doing this!!! I also suggest recycle old libs Eurobass, etc. and give hime a second chance with a new engine like this new!!! THANKS AND WELL DONE!
@joeyvpoisonfree
Жыл бұрын
Wow a prophet!
@clarkem4119
2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating.
@gelvindalena
2 жыл бұрын
The best virtual bass I’ve ever heard insane
@Swagaroni
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds siiick. I’d love to see this level of articulation options for Fender Jazz bass pluggin
@InsaN_
2 жыл бұрын
Svaka ti čast Ermine ! Majstor si zanata i inspiracija za nas amatere
@GaryMcNeill
2 жыл бұрын
Man that double tap plugin makes the bottom end HUGE
@rojomeansred
2 жыл бұрын
What the hell? I have been watching your sim racing videos for some time, and now it recommends me this? I'm a huge djent-prog fan, so this is quite the nice surprise lol. Keep making awesome content
@peterphooko1441
2 жыл бұрын
Heyyy I watch your sim racing videos as well ,pretty sick getting metalheads that are into motoring as well ,Misha and Tosin are into cars as well lol .Awesome video!
@SystematicProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're both rocking 720S's. I've got some catching up to do!
@souhardyachoudhury9030
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of knowledge this video had for free, is unreal. Cheers!
@ampspedalspickups
2 жыл бұрын
This is off the chain good, and doubletap is the cherry on top, I gotta pick this stuff up! I'm patiently waiting for you guys to give punkbass the same treatmant as Grove and Umansky, that will be endgame Bass VST for me. I can't say it enough, Umansky is by far and wide the best sounding VST bass in the game, well done.
@onstantinossioutas3479
3 ай бұрын
one question. did you export this and printed it as an audio track like you did in your djinbass 2 video or is this just the midi track that we hear in this example? Btw, excellent mixing, excellent explanation and presentation as always.
@BhargavaMan
2 жыл бұрын
Submission out here releasing banger after banger!
@bassic6959
2 жыл бұрын
this is by far an awesome mixing video thanks for making good content!
@Semnyi
2 жыл бұрын
Always loved AAL Tosin is the goat. got to love that slap style
@mattdotson7328
2 жыл бұрын
great breakdown of everything, love this!
@francisgarde
2 жыл бұрын
this guy just casually dropping some knowledge. cheers Ermz
@SystematicProductions
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@j-fquevillon8134
2 жыл бұрын
What a glorious Bass Tone :O Sweet Lord!! This is the way!!! Cool way of using Parallax too just to sculped the tone. I'll definetely try this!
@daanhogenkamp2346
2 жыл бұрын
First sim-racing, now this too? I like you my man
@JoeHeisler
2 жыл бұрын
This was just suggested to me, I watch your sim racing vids and didn’t know you were also into music! Sounds like we’d be friends, haha
@umano957
2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see an AAL and Ryan Martine From Mudvayne do a track together
@vantheman1wald
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect to see the face of fellow simracer Ermin HamSandwich, pleasant surprise
@fartytowels8409
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. You're ERMZ? You absolute GOD.
@lockhartzzz
2 жыл бұрын
Wait... Ermin makes MUSIC?!?! MIND = BLOWN
@kylegrossi8175
2 жыл бұрын
I love these! great video as always.
@chickenpasta7359
2 жыл бұрын
Wow this new sim racing game is pretty experimental, I love it
@thanos4480
2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the guide!
@lvcifer-cloverfield
2 жыл бұрын
Although I should've figured that the world's best sounding simracing channel has some audio experience
@KyleKalevra
10 ай бұрын
As a bassist, I’m looking forward to the guitar version.
@OfAbstract
2 жыл бұрын
Wowsers 😳 that's powerful 😳
@rayzie8599
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ermin! I found you originally on your sim racing channel and then happened by this video and thought you sounded and looked familiar! Who knew there are others out there who are into sim racing AND prog metal bass. Literally my two greatest passions.
@dalton-at-work
2 жыл бұрын
same
@xRaid3n
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds so good.
@NiftyDimensions
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Great stuff dude 🙌 Sounds even better with bass imo. peace
@mattynes
2 жыл бұрын
Bro your were showing us a different part of the song the whole video and then we hear it all together in the mix for like 10 seconds at the end of the song. Great tutorial, but 90% of people don’t give a shit and just wanna hear the finished product
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
Full playthrough is available on Tosin Abasi's KZitem Channel!
@JayKayProductions
2 жыл бұрын
4:31 best face every hahaha! LOVE IT! :D
@manugentoodrums
2 жыл бұрын
Gritty AF!
@80s_kid
2 жыл бұрын
In the future please do this truBass technology with a bass guitar played with a pick like the Spector Euro 5 LX bass in Eurobass 2 - - - -> Eurobass 3. 🤞 I think you hit the sound of Spector Euro 5 LX very well. In fact I like Eurobass more than the clanky sound. And It would be the best to use a thicker string for notes lower than B0 or maybe A0 - it depends on the original string gauge too.
@nesaralfk
2 жыл бұрын
MAN that sounds enormous
@polishmetalhead
2 жыл бұрын
thats was class , did you mapped the midi bass yourself or how did you get that bass track anyway? cheers
@SystematicProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Jacob Umansky programmed it for us!
@seanandahalftv4287
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Animals as Leaders is SO much more heavy with bass! Awesome vid btw
@boarderking133
2 жыл бұрын
They already have bass
@seanandahalftv4287
2 жыл бұрын
@@boarderking133 Well yeah you cant have a mix without bass frequencies but you know what i mean
@boarderking133
2 жыл бұрын
@@seanandahalftv4287 they track a bass guitar in on their albums
@seanandahalftv4287
2 жыл бұрын
@@boarderking133 I know
@JordanUH
2 жыл бұрын
dude you do music production as well? i was like hey i know that guy in the thumbnail from sim racing, whats he doing over here with AAL caboom goes my brain
@williamlowe7718
2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford those plugins....awesome demo!!!
@pedrosilvaproductions
2 жыл бұрын
I was confused for a second looking at Ermin thinking "wait didn't I open a music related video and not sim racing?"
@gamethogic3751
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh i saw the thumbnail and was like isnt that the sim racing ham sandwich
@TaylorWheeler
2 жыл бұрын
BRUH Ermin since when were you a mastering engineer?! I watch your sim racing vids quite often and just got recommended this really span me out there!
@ShatteredWindowpane
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, great job. Is there really an advantage to using two separate compressors, vs just one that's been placed in two spots on the signal chain? Thanks and keep it up.
@SystematicProductions
2 жыл бұрын
It's a good chance to use some alternate tonal profiles to balance out the sound. For instance, in this case the 1176 is that in-your-face saturated FET sound with very fast attack and release, while double-tap is a more transparent VCA follow-up. No rules against reusing the same compressor twice, though.
@ShatteredWindowpane
2 жыл бұрын
@@SystematicProductions Makes sense, thanks for the reply. Your videos are great quality.
@ForsellOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
How do you think the plugin compares to EZbass? really impressed by EZbass so far, having tried other bass VSTs.
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Forsell! One of the big differences we believe is in our attention to detail during the sampling process. We have a round-robbin of 16 per note on the primary finger alternate articulation - EZbass has a much lower sample round robbin to our ears. Matched with our truBass logic, you'd be hard-pressed to find any V.I that compares with our level of quality. We multi-sampled the entire fretboard which gives you the ability to play the notes you want on the frets they are meant to be played on and we have a vast amount of articulations to choose from. You can learn more about UmanskyBass on our website www.submissionaudio.com!
@TheRealFoxeR
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ermin, will you solo the bands on Pro-Q3 in videos like this? It helps to hear exactly what you're hearing/getting rid of. Also, how well does the humanize function work with loading two instances of the instrument (ie, one set to DI, another set to Grit)?
@SystematicProductions
2 жыл бұрын
I never actually use that function when mixing, so it's unlikely. You should never run two instances of the instrument on top of each other in real time. You will get strange, unintended performances. If you're looking to multi-process, it's best to run off a single instance and split a parallel processing chain in real time, or simply print the bass performance into an audio file and then duplicate said file and process from there.
@TheRealFoxeR
2 жыл бұрын
@@SystematicProductions Fair enough. I meant it would be helpful for the people watching (myself included). If both instances are getting the *exact* same MIDI information, wouldn't the only difference be the humanization not lining up?
@professorpalmmute
2 жыл бұрын
I legit only thought you did race sims. now I know that you are a fair dinkum legend!!!
@DarelBah
2 жыл бұрын
umansky bass vs djinnbass? I need a bass vst yesterday, avout to purchase one but have bo clue how they compare
@SystematicProductions
2 жыл бұрын
UmanskyBass is a lot more fully fledged. It's one of our generation 2 basses, with far more programming and articulation flexibility. DjinnBass is more 'set and forget' for when you don't want to think too much about programming.
@DaTLMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Tell tosin id buy the stems if hed sell them. For every album
@Jackal_Blitz
2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to hear something other than a Djentwall bass with this kind of music. Nothing against them (I own one), but the sound has been done to death and it just sounds like a bass trying to be a guitar. Sean Malone from Cynic comes to mind. He has a really nice round, staccato sound in a lot of their songs, and it cut through the mix beautifully without just sounding like another distortion machine. It actually sounded like a bass.
@drawolcyelsew
2 жыл бұрын
Yesss, the same Bass Tone on every modern metal song has been driving me crazy with metal recently.
@suppmydiff3257
2 жыл бұрын
@@drawolcyelsew This is just a factually wrong take. The modern darkglass bass tone is the best thing that ever happened to metal. Old metal had these fuzzed-up gutless inaudible basses you could only hear if they played right up the neck
@SystematicProductions
2 жыл бұрын
I've had the pleasure of working with Sean a number of times. Creating a fretless virtual bass with him crossed my mind on occasion, before his tragic passing.
@Jackal_Blitz
2 жыл бұрын
@@SystematicProductions Damn, that's a shame - it would've been awesome to hear!
@harpobro
Жыл бұрын
You know who would crush with AAL? Charles Berthoud.
@janivelic2316
2 жыл бұрын
Bravo brate!!!👏🏻
@budycelyn
2 жыл бұрын
youtube recommended this video and the only reason i opened it was because i thought i recognised a fella there, soo Ermin isn't just a sim racer :).
@AngeloSNT23
11 ай бұрын
Okay but what's the name of the song ?
@maggsvamp
Жыл бұрын
AAL's sound doesn't need bass. It's great they way it is.
@incredible916
Жыл бұрын
So are you saying what he did didn’t help the mix? Because I’m a big AAL fan and I noticed in many of their previous albums they tried to compensate with a harder bottom kick drum which muddies up their older mixes.
@damiendelvallee7256
2 жыл бұрын
Question : what does the plug-in feeds on? Do you feed it with the guitar DI?
@rubievale
2 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a VST instrument, not an amp sim, so you place it on a midi track and write the bass line on the grid. They sampled a real bass that we "play" via a midi track which we need to program ourselves
@misterkanister6478
2 жыл бұрын
I think the bassist from the human abstract would be good for animals as leaders
@jonnylawless6797
2 жыл бұрын
Henry Silva? He's pretty good, but I'd say Arif Mobdolbaghi, formerly from Protest The Hero, would be a better choice. Maybe even the original bass player from As Blood Runs Black.
@SkeeterMcBeater
2 жыл бұрын
Now all they need is a singer & they'll be a real band.
@JordonHouston92
2 жыл бұрын
Funny comment. All you need is a genie and you'll be a real boy.
@djentisnotagenre
2 жыл бұрын
I kept saying to myself... why do I recognise this intro jingle.... where do I know this from? Then it took me back to that last Carcer City release... great production ;) p.s. Umansky bass is lit.
@TheDangerbreed
2 жыл бұрын
aal needs a live touring bassist
@boarderking133
2 жыл бұрын
They have bass in the backing tracks
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
@@boarderking133 They are using UmanskyBass as their bass backing track on the older AAL songs they play live! How cool is that?!
@jamesmiddleton8335
2 жыл бұрын
Adding beamng to animals as leaders 😂 this is so strange to me watching the sim racing guy talk about music
@aaronking5137
2 жыл бұрын
Victor Wooten cameo..please.
@iAmSpyNz
2 жыл бұрын
don’t they have bass guitar in the mix to get the low end? Or maybe they process guitars to get the low end idk
@zachw2538
2 жыл бұрын
I think they use a multiband compressor to make the low end of the guitar pop in the bass range similar to a bass.
@MrBoston1630
2 жыл бұрын
@@zachw2538 no, they have an actual bass
@zachw2538
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBoston1630 did.... did you watch the video? The whole point is that the band doesn't have a bass player.
@boarderking133
2 жыл бұрын
@@zachw2538 live. They most definitely track bass and play it live in the backing tracks
@zachw2538
2 жыл бұрын
@@boarderking133 they didn't when i saw them live but ok.
@jamesbradford870
2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 so fuckin' good.
@djtoolhead
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I love that the bassist setting is below the human setting.
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
😈
@matejgrim
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, you are Ermin Hamsandwich, the sim racer... How are you so multitalented?😅
@andreashofmeyr9583
2 жыл бұрын
Pity we couldn't hear more of the final mix. 😢
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andreas! You can hear the entire song on Tosin Abasi's youtube channel "Gordian Naught" Playthrough.
@dvnam7842
2 жыл бұрын
@@SubMissionAudioOfficial Great - thanks for that!
@onealpha710
2 жыл бұрын
Now I am confused, arn´t you a race sim creator? Mind you I love AasL, so yeah up the Irons, and pedal to the metal! rF2 driver here!
@montreauxs
2 жыл бұрын
All they need is Henrik Linder.
@tobee_gamer5816
2 жыл бұрын
Gosh, gordian naught sounds a LOT more aggressive with a bass
@olivernash1751
2 жыл бұрын
Ermin u shouldve played it.
@AzureNightsMusic
2 жыл бұрын
So I'm confused - did he not use midi for the umansky bass? That's the most frustrating thing about using these plug ins is chucking in a good midi section
@paramourcat
2 жыл бұрын
It's all midi. The whole plugin is samples. He preprogrammed everything before the video
@theovergoat
2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious how literally everyone thinks AAL needs bass, and there's a lot of very competent players who would love to join the band but even after all these years they don't have a bassist
@MagnetarCollapse
2 жыл бұрын
We need to rename bass to dangle. "What do you play in your band?" - "I play dangle."
@derekknight5156
2 жыл бұрын
Haha "mushugger-esk" that's how my dad says mushuggah "my suger"
@Marta1Buck
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Charles Berthoud is available
@phildesrochers8047
2 жыл бұрын
i wanna listen to the whole thing for fuck sake 😡
@idiotburns
2 жыл бұрын
it didnt really sound like a bass though
@Riffa22
2 жыл бұрын
1:47 Total stank face
@Afghamistam
2 жыл бұрын
Feel that the humanize knob should have "bassist" before "human", but it's not a big deal...
@krasmazov009
2 жыл бұрын
I play all their songs on bass anyways 😂
@grapefruitsimmons
2 жыл бұрын
You didnt add a bassist. You added a plug-in. It can never replicate the feeling of a person. People > programs.
@drifter61
2 жыл бұрын
Good grief this shit is naaaaaastyyy like I can’t even. Fuck.
@angelalbertoolivaresramire8547
2 жыл бұрын
They already have bass, they dont récord without bass an they actualy play with a backing track live.
@SubMissionAudioOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
On their latest tour, they're using UmanskyBass for their bass backing tracks on the older songs!
@dalton-at-work
2 жыл бұрын
The ham sandwich has good musical taste too?
@yoyothe3rd
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT! This isn't BeamNG!?!?!?
@breakingblackmagic7617
2 жыл бұрын
why do u have all the PLUG-in names "RIP KOBE" i get it rip kobe bryant but why everyone?
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