Good to see kmem feed on live atc and catching an event. I built the hardware for the liveatc feed this was captured on. I used to host the feed at my father's house before he passed away and luckily we found another person to host the site so I donated all the hardware.
@Igamer124
Жыл бұрын
I wondered how that worked. Do you just set up a radio receiver and upload the audio?
@hgbugalou
Жыл бұрын
@@Igamer124 First you need a good location by the airport. Picking up planes is easy but the on ground ATC can be harder the further you are from the transmitters. The setup done these days run on a Raspberry Pi which handles the streaming and it is connected to SDR (software define radio) dongles via USB for each frequency monitored. Since these are in mono, often times 1 SDR will be used to monitor two channels out of the left and right speakers. The SDRs are then connected to a RF splitter module which then goes to the Antenna mast.
@msjdb723
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@johnpollard4158
Жыл бұрын
That's why my package was late!
@HiwasseeRiver
Жыл бұрын
For a second I thought that was Major Kong (Slim Pickens) Give 'Em hell Tex!
@gabrielchalupa8122
Жыл бұрын
Attack Plan R?
@rhanemann9100
Жыл бұрын
3400lbs? That's what, 500 gallons for a CF6 three-holer to fly 450 miles?
@YouCanSeeATC
Жыл бұрын
I believe they wanted to say 34000.
@RLTtizME
Жыл бұрын
Hone your powers of deduction sweetie.
@rhanemann9100
Жыл бұрын
@@RLTtizME The controller didn't ask for clarification, toots.
@RLTtizME
Жыл бұрын
@@rhanemann9100 Lovey....God gave you a brain. The controller used his. Now let's get yours back online. I would be really hopeful if you weren't drooling uncontrollably. 😛😛
@BigMoTheBlackDragon
Жыл бұрын
I took it as 340,000 lbs. To bad nobody has thought to standardize that part. Some ask for time, some it's weight. When they reply in lbs., the pilots change the number of trailing zeroes they leave off. One thing if they are different countries, but it seems to be everywhere. I've heard recording s of different controller s at the same airport ask for time in one recording, then a few days later ask for weight. They also never ask a passenger plane if they are ever carrying any hazmat cargo. Maybe FAA rules say you can't on passenger planes, except, I know passenger planes carry cargo, and sometimes that cargo includes batteries, and electronic devices. Both are dangerous in a crash. Oh wait, nevermind. I forgot, ATC was deregulated during the 1980s. The union was banned, everyone was fired, then rehired at lower wages, and less benefits. Recall in the 1990s they were having a shortage of air traffic controllers -- wonder why. So, either way, it doesn't matter.
@jeremiahsemonis8524
Жыл бұрын
Why would tower try to launch planes after he was let know that there was likely a blown tire on the runway without letting ops do a runway check? That is the definition of asking for something bad to happen.
@denverbraughler3948
Жыл бұрын
Simple answer: The pilot didn’t mention possible FOD before changing frequency from tower to departure. The departure controller had to call a tower controller. The tower controller had to figure out which runway aircraft had used and let that controller know. You are mistaken that there was “likely a blown tire on the runway”. Given that other aircraft had successfully departed, the presence of FOD was far from “likely”. Given the report, the chance of FOD on the runway was slightly elevated above normal operating conditions (It’s never 0.0000000%).
@jeremiahsemonis8524
Жыл бұрын
@@denverbraughler3948 yes I understand they had to play the telephone game, but the local controller was notified there was possible FOD on the runway and left it up to the pilot on whether or not he wanted to depart. It should be the other way around, the controller should hold him until a FOD sweep is performed. I imagine the strips they use would have the runway written or printed on it, so it wouldn't take too long to figure out which runway the airplane departed from.
@marcellkovacs5452
Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahsemonis8524 I've observed a similar occurrence in other recordings where it seems like the ATC is strongly recommending that the departing plane should wait until the area is cleaned up. However, the decision ultimately lies with the pilots. It's possible that this approach is a psychological tactic to encourage the pilots to be more patient since they are the ones making the decision to wait rather than being forced to wait.
@jeremiahsemonis8524
Жыл бұрын
@@marcellkovacs5452 you're not an air traffic controller, are you?
@denverbraughler3948
Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahsemonis8524: By that point, another aircraft had already inspected the runway and successfully departed.
@paddyohenry6428
Жыл бұрын
Fedex 531 could have said present heading 4000. Also think he had a bit more than 3400 pounds of fuel.
@aeastes11
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s like a crj 200 load on landing
@jeffdowdy5113
Жыл бұрын
they hit a flock of geese.
@Belchmaster41
Жыл бұрын
I believe it was a blown-tire after 🛫 , but the pilot of Fedex 531 said he didn't notice anything
@jeffdowdy5113
Жыл бұрын
@@Belchmaster41 I actually have direct knowledge that it was hit by several geese. In turn that caused a compressor stall on #3 engine. The radome was also changed because of the bird strikes.
@One_Shot_Garage
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffdowdy5113 the number of items generated from this event is wild. And that is all I will say about that.
@dannycnoble
Жыл бұрын
You sure they did not hit a Flock of Seagulls?
@Myxlplyk
Жыл бұрын
@@dannycnoble Were they going to Iran? Cause Iran's so far away.
@VictoryAviation
Жыл бұрын
Not to Monday morning quarterback because I wasn’t there. Observation: For an emergency that didn’t seem to affect flight control, this pilot seemed extremely distracted on comms, and unable to efficiently comprehend radio traffic. They did get the plane back on the ground, so that’s a plus.
@matt9108
Жыл бұрын
You clearly have no idea how busy it can be doing a "simple" immediate air return. Add to the mix the crew reported a strange smell in the cockpit. I think they did a remarkable job getting the plane back to MEM as quickly and safely as they did.
@VictoryAviation
Жыл бұрын
@@matt9108 I agree, they did get it back safely and quickly. I mentioned that. I was talking about the pilot’s communication skills.
@w.ryanbutler8097
Жыл бұрын
Most of the FedEx flights that leave Memphis do so around 3am, so they are the only traffic…and they keep a steady and consistent line of planes taking off for a long time. So the traffic management is quite different than what you would see midday.
@straightpipediesel
Жыл бұрын
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. Communicate is always third priority. People die when it isn't. ATC's got radar and ADS-B, it's their job to figure things out.
@VictoryAviation
Жыл бұрын
@@straightpipediesel Couldn’t agree more. I think you still may be missing my point. This didn’t seem to be any type of detrimental emergency. The pilot is ATP and considering the type of aircraft, most certainly has a lot of TT. Yet he is having difficulty with basic communication skills even with a crewed flight deck. It’s a bit odd. It would be completely different if the aircraft was losing responsiveness to control inputs etc.
@collinhamlett1568
Жыл бұрын
Can you not check your tire pressure/ temp on an MD11 from the flight deck?
@saxmanb777
Жыл бұрын
No.
@rudi_ghuliani
Жыл бұрын
@@saxmanb777 no wheel well temperature sensors?
@saxmanb777
Жыл бұрын
@@rudi_ghuliani nope. Just wheel well overheat/fire sensors.
@sara0028
Жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Tire pressure and brake temperatures from the cockpit of the MD-11
@jesusrodriguez4816
Жыл бұрын
Why on earth do professional pilots in the US seam to refuse the use of standard ICAO phraseology? In particular the use of MAYDAY. Is it a cultural thing? I’m genuinely curious.
@collinhamlett1568
Жыл бұрын
In the US “declaring an emergency” is common practice and accepted. In fact most US pilots forget the importance of announcing “Mayday” when international.
@saxmanb777
Жыл бұрын
They aren’t trained to do so.
@w.ryanbutler8097
Жыл бұрын
In the United States “declaring an emergency”=I’m concerned enough to change plans and return, “PanPan, PanPan”=I have an immediate control problem and need to return, “Mayday”=I’m not fully in control of my plane, I need to return but am concerned I may not make it
@Fitch93
Жыл бұрын
@@w.ryanbutler8097 You've got "PanPan" and "declaring an emergency" switched around, but aside from that it's good.
@Fitch93
Жыл бұрын
In the US a Mayday call usually means you're either in imminent danger of crashing very soon or are already in the act of crashing. Whereas, pilots can and will declare an emergency for literally anything, emphasis on anything.
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