Go to brilliant.org/nutshell/ to dive deeper into these topics and more with a free 30-day trial + 20% off the premium subscription! ⬇PLEASE NOTICE⬇ This is an updated version of The Workout Paradox video we released a month ago. After hearing your feedback on our initial video, we consulted experts, revised the script, and added more information to the parts that were too simplified. All changes and the link to the original video (now unlisted) can be found here: sites.google.com/view/sources-workoutparadox This experience was uncomfortable, but ultimately encouraging for us. It reminded us that it is a challenge to make ten-minute videos on complex topics without cutting too much and that we need to be constantly aware of this. Thanks again for your honest feedback and for helping us get better. We truly appreciate it.
@ranath383
5 күн бұрын
you dont how this comment got so many likes
@user-tz5lc3xe2d
5 күн бұрын
WHY 52 MINUTES AGE WHEN VIDEO IS A MINUTE AGO!?
@blur_r1
5 күн бұрын
Sure
@LordVictorHalgaard
5 күн бұрын
Suspect it was a video that hit close to home for some people leading to more inflammatory responses than your usual topics.
@oracheese
5 күн бұрын
@@user-tz5lc3xe2d they commented when the video was still unlisted then make it public later
@rairaur2234
5 күн бұрын
A reach shot out to the team for not only acknowledging feedback but taking it seriously, re-reviewing the topic and finally re-releasing an updated version while also providing a link to the previous version for transparency and archival reasons. To say this is a rare approach for the YT scene is to say nothing. Kudos.
@UncanaldeInvestitii
5 күн бұрын
Taking it seriously? They still CAN'T CONVERT KGs to LBs, nor know how many kcals are in a kg. For the 2nd video!
@salt7456
5 күн бұрын
@@UncanaldeInvestitiithey’re German, every other country except for 3 uses metric.
@Landyy
5 күн бұрын
@@UncanaldeInvestitiiuseless units no one cares about
@teabow.
5 күн бұрын
Do you have the link?
@Sunny-Gupta1
5 күн бұрын
You got a heart ❤️ from kruge..... I don't know how to spell or even pronounce
@just_mdd4
5 күн бұрын
Here's what's changed, in case you were wondering: ( ) added or changed content ** ** removed content 01:26 In reality, (focusing on) exercising (is not a reliable way to lose weight.) **a bad way to burn fat.** 01:31 (Some studies show that exercise can lead to some fat loss, others that it is minimal. How can this be? It turns out that until) recently we fundamentally misunderstood what moving around a lot does to our bodies. 01:44 (Disclaimer: The science on fat loss is complicated and many studies compare vastly different populations, different measurements and are complicated to understand. And the online discussion is full of personal anecdotes. This video covers general principles, based on the current state of research. But when you look at the individual, there are variations - it matters if you are an athlete or casually try to lose weight.) 03:12 For some strange reason (in the long term), the amount of calories you burn is **pretty much** (often relatively) unrelated to your lifestyle. Per kilo of **body** (muscle) weight, your body has a (relatively) fixed calorie budget it wants to burn per day. 04:12 You actually do burn more calories and lose fat - so you can lose **a few kilos or pounds** (weight) through exercise! But this is (often) very short-lived. Your body adapts and burns fewer and fewer extra calories each **day** (week) until it restores its original calorie budget. After a few months you burn *basically the same* (a very similar) amount to what you did when you didn’t work out. (If you stay really consistent your burn might increase slightly and your body composition might change, but most people struggle with keeping up the habit, if they don’t love the extra movement. Which is why so many people hit a weight loss plateau.) 04:47 (Objection! What about muscles? Muscles burn 3 times more calories at rest than fat. This sounds impressive, but tissues like your brain, skin or intestines burn way more. In absolute terms, a more muscular body composition makes a difference for how many calories your body burns, but it’s relatively small. Muscles matter a lot for health, longevity and performance, but not that much for weight loss.) 05:21 So your body has an **hardwired** activity budget per day that it wants to stick to. 07:13 This is why you burn **almost the same** (a similar) amount of calories whether you work out or not - **by working out you are not doing anything extra, you are doing what your body is literally made to do.** (A lot of the energy you spend working out is energy you don’t spend on other physical activities and body processes.) 07:46 **Movement is not really made to burn your fat though.** 10:00 If you want to lose fat, (reducing calories is the biggest part of the answer.) Edit: I don't like editing comments, but the asterisks were emboldening the words, lol. I've just fixed it! 🫡
@HPkobold
5 күн бұрын
Thanks
@CerexOmnia
5 күн бұрын
Thank you for all these. I watched previous video just yesterday yet I couldnt find out differences
@e.k.4508
5 күн бұрын
You can find a full list of changes in the description of the video. Very interesting!
@Foots105
5 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@TheNonsenseGuy
5 күн бұрын
If you put asterisks around text it just makes it fat and barely distinguishable from normal text on some devices. You should probably use a different symbol.
@Joeri2
5 күн бұрын
This is why this channel is good. You review the criticism, you learn from it and you correct it.
@thisscreensucks
5 күн бұрын
They didn't just change because of criticism. They changed it to more accurately match the facts.
@babycartesian944
5 күн бұрын
What was the critism? Ik this is a repost but why’d they repost it
@MatteoDolcin-ye8xm
5 күн бұрын
Read pinned comment@@babycartesian944
@v6790
5 күн бұрын
@@babycartesian944ik Greg Doucette made a video criticizing the original upload
@undercovercrazy8455
5 күн бұрын
@@timeattack9059No the reason people are mad and will still be mad at this vid is that the research in this area is still very scattered in results and we need a lot more of it before we can even come to a conclusion of any kind. So people are more mad that Kurg is jumping the gun not that they believe one thing or another and this happens with pretty much all of their non physic or astronomy focused videos.
@Jyuille1
4 күн бұрын
They removed this from last video, but honestly it spoke to me a lot “by working out you are not doing anything extra, you are doing what your body is literally made to do.”
@martinbobcik1750
4 күн бұрын
I also thought that when reviewing the changes. They should leave it there imho.
@guyninneman7982
4 күн бұрын
yeah, i think it was an important line as well, in the most absolute technical sense, exercising is a choice you make so it is extra effort. but it is important to mention what that it is not going to meaningfully affect your weight loss expectations.
@yehorleschenko8313
4 күн бұрын
Well they removed it because it in fact is not true. Doing cardio will help you burn fat SO MUCH, you shouldn't underestimate its effectiveness and definitely should include it if your goal is to lose weight
@paulrollinson1305
4 күн бұрын
@@yehorleschenko8313 Nope
@yehorleschenko8313
4 күн бұрын
@@paulrollinson1305 yup. Why do you disagree? Kurzgesagt is not a fitness channel and you shouldn't just assume that what they say in the video is right because of some "science data"
@monkeydrui
5 күн бұрын
2 steps ahead, i am always 2 steps ahead - kurzgesagt
@SisuBjörk
5 күн бұрын
2 steps behind
@uxFeranmi
5 күн бұрын
I understood that reference.
@richarduton
5 күн бұрын
2 steps ahead by not stepping at all
@Omer1996E.C
5 күн бұрын
He made HISTORY
@throwaway9208
5 күн бұрын
@@SisuBjörkYou're two steps late...
@lumberjackofalltrades
5 күн бұрын
When i was a kid, an old timer told me that your body will give you the best body it can for your lifestyle. If you don't like your body, change how you live
@bkminchilog1
5 күн бұрын
According to the video this incorrect and unhelpful.
@lappodamy5826
5 күн бұрын
Holy shit....words to live by, thanks man
@VincentPride1986
5 күн бұрын
That's called homeostasis - you dont lose fat by exercising - instead your body transitions to a body of a person who exercises frequently, which means generally leaner body with higher percentage of muscle and less fat
@drdoomgoat38
5 күн бұрын
Damn thats a real good way to put it
@thatblkguy1837
5 күн бұрын
@@bkminchilog1nah according to the video this is exactly how it is your body has a set amount of calories it likes to burn for what you generally do so if u live a life eating shit and sitting around it’s gonna burn calories in a way to accommodate a homeostasis specific to your body
@Manu-gl6ny
5 күн бұрын
Basically working out is SO important that it contributes to what our body NEEDS to do, rather than just for a particular purpose as weight loss. If you are disregarding working out just because it won't lower your bodyfat as much as you'd like, you are seriously missing out on years of your life.
@nyx3983
5 күн бұрын
People always tend to blame everything but themselves when it comes to weight loss. We've created a society where it's easy to overindulge in calories.
@religiousindustrialaliens
4 күн бұрын
What do I do if im too scared to go to the gym because I don’t like people
@MrStateAlchemist
4 күн бұрын
@@religiousindustrialaliensdon’t go to the gym then. You can do push ups, sit ups, and squats basically anywhere even your house. And before anyone says “that’s not a workout” it’s infinitely better than nothing.
@Manu-gl6ny
4 күн бұрын
@@religiousindustrialaliens gym culture is among the kindest ever. Not even kidding. But if you still hesitate, workout at home or look for other gyms. Try calisthenics maybe, learn how to do a handstand, etc. If you are worried about criticism - don’t be. Literally friends are made in the gym.
@religiousindustrialaliens
4 күн бұрын
@@MrStateAlchemist Sure
@joelbellJB
2 күн бұрын
This is the most colorful, kid friendly and accurate explanation of how the human body works when it comes to exercise and weight control. Remember, exercise is for fitness, Diet is for weight control.
@prof7304
2 күн бұрын
It's still oversimplified and not correct. The more active you are, the more calories you burn, even tho your body becomes more efficient at movement
@nine1690
Күн бұрын
@@prof7304 If that was the case then cutting wouldn’t need to be a thing. At the end of the day if you wanna lose weight you gotta eat less than your TDEE and work at least the same as your TDEE.
@joelbellJB
Күн бұрын
@@prof7304 no, not necessarily. New literature shows that more activity doesn’t burn more calories, this video literally references the new study. It’s basically similar to the law of diminishing returns, more cardio doesn’t burn the same amount of calories given enough time, as you said it becomes more efficient, during each cardio session as well as the total amount of time over a period of weeks or months. And when you think about it from an evolutionary standpoint it makes sense.
@prof7304
Күн бұрын
@@joelbellJB Yeah more efficient, but you can't break the laws of thermodynamics. Athletes need around 3500-6500 kcal a day, depending on their level and field. As an example: I (6'4 ft) need around 3500-4000 kcal daily plus 500-1000 kcal if I excercise that day and I am by no means a professional athlete. My non-active friends only need around 3000 kcal. My strongman friend needs 6000-7000 kcal in his bulking phase and 4500-5000 kcal in his cutting/definition phase. That's why I said it's oversimplified and incorrect.
@johnk6757
18 сағат бұрын
@@joelbellJB I agree with "excercise is for fitness diet is for weight control" but also I feel it can be risky to conclude much from a single study.. common sense is that people who are active have better body composition than those who don't. Although it is nontheless true that there is some merit to the "weight set point" and the body achieving some sort of equilibrium through NEAT and the like
@8bitbonsai
5 күн бұрын
as someone who recently starts working out in a gym the thing i noticed the most is how good i felt. i couldnt stop smiling after the shower and one my way home. i felt like i achived something and it motivated me to come back and do it again Damn, a 1000 likes.....
@coolcoolercoolest212
5 күн бұрын
Weird. I noticed that it was pretty common for me to have intense feelings of short term sadness after my more intense gym workouts.
@Bobsmith-xq2pr
5 күн бұрын
@@coolcoolercoolest212 exhausting exercise floods your brain with loads of neurotransmitters. How your brain reacts to this can vary greatly from person to person. Personally, I love the high I get after working out.
@MHNK77
5 күн бұрын
@@coolcoolercoolest212 yeah, there are two kinds of people I've noticed. I never understood the "working out really energizes me for the rest of the day" Like what?, I'm completely mushed after a hard workout.
@Tom-hp4bq
5 күн бұрын
@@MHNK77 a lot of people don’t train hard enough. I do hypertrophy style training and my cns is so fried after each session I need to nap when I get home lol.
@Nehpets1701G
5 күн бұрын
That's the great thing about a good workout. You seldom regret it. Taking action is an achievement, so keep up the good work 💪
@AllissonFerreiraSoares
5 күн бұрын
10:15 I was 99% sure that the woman was going all in into the kids' face LOL
@menkaragamble8175
4 күн бұрын
Don't throw unless you're ready to catch dem hands.
@LuizEnger
4 күн бұрын
I was expecting that xD
@sharpcircle6875
4 күн бұрын
Are we talk about "late stage abortion" or am I not catching your drift 💀?
@Irondragon1945
2 күн бұрын
@@sharpcircle6875 "postnatal abortion" yknow it's a thing i swear, i saw it on the interwebs
@TheZerovirus1000
5 күн бұрын
This level of responsibility makes Kurzgesagt THE gold standard for informative videos. Reading the notes pages, I'd go as far as to say that this film is closer to a thesis than just entertainment
@Ordnas95
5 күн бұрын
A really shitty thesis
@fimlucas
5 күн бұрын
Agree 100%
@fimlucas
5 күн бұрын
Love this channel
@HenryHellman-b3x
4 күн бұрын
@Ordnas95 bro really hating to hate
@kovy689
4 күн бұрын
@@Ordnas95Agreed. Lazy overweight sheep always trying to find an excuse not to exercise…
@EthelJung-j5w
4 күн бұрын
TBH, i wasn't expecting an update, but the original video did bug me a bit and it's great to see i wasn't alone and this makes more sense now
@wilcosoetman8138
Күн бұрын
what was incorrect about it?
@anewman
Күн бұрын
@@wilcosoetman8138 bot comment, bot likes
@bobbyoctovio5582
6 сағат бұрын
@@wilcosoetman8138it glossed over the more important parts of exercise and undersold its importance to a healthy life
@demiseman9586
4 күн бұрын
I think the effect of building muscle and increasing your base metabolic rate by 200-300 calories is vastly understated here. You only need a 200 to 300 calorie deficit to lose weight in a healthy and sustainable manner. That's just 1kg of fat in 30 to 40 days.
@MewPurPur
3 күн бұрын
While that's fair, realistically, it's more like 30 calories per day, say, you replace 5 kilos of fat with 5 kilos of new muscle.
@PeterMoore-q5k
3 күн бұрын
It's a 4-7kcal/lb difference but that's also assuming "replacement". Just adding the muscle lbs without losing the fat increases base burn by 6-10. And then consider that if you're stronger you're naturally going to move faster, etc. It's all a feedback loop. It's not Ozempic-speed weight loss. But it's about changing body composition over months and years which is the only sustainable way to do it.
@JohnDoe_69
3 күн бұрын
@@PeterMoore-q5ksays you.
@DWgic
3 күн бұрын
They also forgot that progressive overload and varying workout routines exist... It's relatively easy to stay buring high calories at the gym with a little bit of planning. These guys seem to want people to believe that there is little point going to the gym. What a weird angle...
@MewPurPur
2 күн бұрын
@@DWgic What? I heard the exact opposite criticism because they used single numbers at the beginning for how much is burned from various activities, without mentioning they are weight-based. To me this just shows how you can't make everyone happy
@TheSupermUniverse100
5 күн бұрын
As someone who's lost 60lbs in the span of 18 months I agree that diet is between 50% and 70% of the journey. I'll share my advice for anyone who's curious: 1. Do not take on big diet plans/ diet pills/ fad diets. Start small and build habits over time. Taking on big changes in a small amount of time is very hard and it becomes easy to relapse. One good example is to try to eat at the same time every day. Your body loves clockwork. Diet pills do work, but they teach you nothing about how to maintain yourself after you're off the pills. The journey of natural weight loss teaches you how to control your weight with your own abilities. Many times, people on diet pills end up regaining the weight they lost because they don't know how to maintain it. 2. Do not make huge lofty goals. Make reasonable goals and put numbers to them. It's easier to track progress by seeing if you're reaching the numbers that you want. A good example is "I want to lose 2lbs evey 2 weeks" or something similar. You can then tie this to a bigger long term goal like "I want to lose 40lbs by the end of the year". 3. This will take time. I remember at first I was getting frustrated by my lack of progress. But then I saw a post somewhere that said something like "you must put as much time into the solution that was put into the problem". In other words, if you were over weight for 3 years, then you should expect your journey to be on the order of years. In my experience, it will take 3 months of consistent work to notice physical changes in the mirror. 4. Excercise goes hand in hand with this. Again, start small. Start with 10 minutes per day of walking/running/excercise/stretching/yoga..etc. You will slowly build a regiment before you know it. 5. Do not fall for the "new years resolution" trap. Do not wait for a new year, a new month, a new week. Don't even wait for tomorrow. The biggest power you have is that you can start right now. The best time to plant a tree was 50 years ago. The second best time is now.
@MC-wh3xm
5 күн бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I tell people. Small, consistent steps, that you slowly ramp up as you can handle it. This is great advice.
@grapfen587
5 күн бұрын
This is very interesting, since for me it was a lot different. When I decided I was going to lose weight, I went on a diet and started doing small hikes. Did that half a year with pretty much no results. Then I actually scrapped the diet, just simply ate when I was hungry until I wasn't anymore, but went heavy on exercise. 20km of inline skating daily followed by 2 hours of either badminton or fencing in the evening. Started seeing very significant results after 2 weeks and lost 80lbs in 6 months. Also, from my perspective, the only goal you should set for yourself should be to be a normal healthy weight or to reach some sort of fitness level that you want to be at. If you get frustrated because you lost 4 pounds less this week compared to last week, you have the wrong approach, you are worrying about the wrong things, and quitting weight loss because your numbers aren't as good as before is unjustifiably delusional. The speed at which you lose weight will automatically decrease significantly the less you weigh, because a lighter body passively burns less calories. You will also spend less calories to move the lighter body the same distance as the heavier one. That's why I am saying to not look at numbers. Keep doing the things you KNOW work, and do it until you are satisfied. There is no reason to check your weight on the scale until you start to closely approach the target weight you set for yourself, at which point your appearance will already have changed, so you know you are probably close to it. What the scale says is irrelevant, you want to change how your body looks or how fit you are, not the number on the scale if you really think about it. It should be noted that when I talk about eating until I'm full, I mean regular food, not sweets or snacks and not mcdonalds. Basically, sandwiches for breakfast and dinner and some warm meal for lunch, often something with pasta.
@mrrodriguezHLP
5 күн бұрын
My 45lbs loss from 2021 to today, is mostly due to my adoption of cycling as a hobby and obsession. When it comes to changing diet, I cut out most artificially sweetened beverages and food, and I lowered my alcohol consumption.
@sevro
4 күн бұрын
While I agree with you in principal this is not entirely true for everyone. I personally have been overweight for 10+ years of my life (Obese) and through just a calorie deficit alone (1000 a day only), I will hit a healthy weight within 6-7months. Consistently losing over 1kg a week for the last 7-8 weeks. Just by eating less. And I've personally not found it that hard to not snack or eat so much. A majority of this is because I've been ordering from a meal prep company that give me a perfectly portioned meal that is freshly made that week, its not processed or full of preservatives and I just bung it in the microwave for 3minutes and eat. Each meal is between 400-500 calories and it's perfect. I have one of these a day, have some light snacks throughout the day if needed and then finish up with a bowl of soup if I need to (but I can skip this entirely and finish under the 1K but I usually force myself to maintain the 1K just for health reasons). I am however looking to start the gym up to compliment this and hope to burn even more weight per week doing this, just waiting to hear back from a referral from my GP (Doctor) so I can get a PT assigned at a much discounted rate.
@johnsnow5125
4 күн бұрын
cutting down carbs and filling up on proteins always reliably worked for me every time I've done it. Not keto, because that's nearly unsustainable, but trying to go low and be aware of calories intake. With almost daily swimming and then weights training several times a week, I ended up dropping into underweight territory this time, before I noticed
@MultiSkiptracer
5 күн бұрын
The amount of research the Kurzgesagt team does, as well as the willingness to correct errors or edit for clarity, is commendable. Great job Kurzgesagt!
@dmitry.gashko
5 күн бұрын
I don't know what this channel is, but base, on this and the previous video - they somewhere on the same level as Trum Trum. This video is bs. This "updated" version, is not updated, it's just the same. At least, this video cannot be fixed. The idea is wrong in the first place. Fixed version is just the opposite of this video in most of the time.
@@easy8figure How are they wrong? They corrected the GRAMMATICAL errors, not the factual ones. The message is the same; working out doesn't do much in terms of *weight loss*, it's still healthy for you.
@ApocolypseChild
4 күн бұрын
Mostly just the clarifying kind in this case. I can't really fathom, though, why more clarity was needed in the first place on this one. Seemed pretty straightforward.
@je8253
3 күн бұрын
This video - "your body obeys the 2nd law of thermodynamics" Also this video - "No matter how much you exercise your metabolism won't change" 🤣
@heatherkuhn6559
2 күн бұрын
No, it's more like your metabolism adjusts its efficiency to your activity level so your calorie consumption remains relatively stable.
@je8253
2 күн бұрын
@@heatherkuhn6559 it's basic logic. At a given calorie intake there exists a level of exercise that would put you into a calorie deficit. Your body can't simply "adjust its efficiency" to have infinite energy.
@c.dl.4274
2 күн бұрын
@@heatherkuhn6559 If you've ever worked out in a small room you've probably noticed it steadily increase in heat. Your body is not perfectly efficient at using it's energy to turn into motion. While you are moving, a lot of that energy is being lost to heat your body produces. I guess for any exercise like jogging, where your body can adapt and make it harder to lose the same amount of calories, it might lose fat burning efficiency. As long as you push yourself to the limit you should be out pacing any adaptations your body can throw at you. High intensity exercises are key here.
@Zopeee
2 күн бұрын
@@je8253while yes that is true, the mentioned effect does exist and for most people it will be making it close to pointless workingout, not because you cant lose weight that way(if you do sessions that lose 700-800+cals you obviously will lose weight) but most dont causualy/normaly make such sessions and will probably only lose a few hundreds of cals, which your body negates, to a high degree after a while, but yeah they shouldve added that with enough you can overcome this.
@theleek6694
4 күн бұрын
As someone with a research background in nutrition and obesity-related diseases, I feel confident in stating that weight loss studies, beyond sampling issues, are often flawed in their design and include conclusions that are often full of extrapolations. Despite these limitations, one thing is clear from the literature, and that is most people cannot out exercise a "bad" diet, which is to say that the duration and/or intensity of exercise needed to compensate for overnutrition is not realistically achievable. In the video, 2 points that concerned me the most were related to (1) energy needs for CNS vs skeletal muscle and (2) connecting inflammation from exercise to degenerative diseases. For the former, although the energy demands of the brain represent a considerable part of RMR, it remains relatively constant. In contrast, skeletal muscle, which also contributes considerably to RMR, can be modified (ie, increased or decreased), which has important considerations for RMR and regulation of body weight composition. Thus, maintenance or enhancement of skeletal muscle is an important modifiable factor (via exercise or lack thereof). As far as inflammation's role in degenerative disease, it is important to note that acute exercise-induced inflammation is important to skeletal muscle hypertrophy. In addition, although chronic inflammation caused through exercise injury is detrimental, the literature is ambiguous on its relationship to degenerative diseases, such as atherosclerosis. Despite my diatribe, there is a lot of solid points made in the video. Although I might not agree personally with everything, its premise-that our perception of exercise as a solution for weight loss needs to change-is solid. It's a useful tool, but one often mischaracterized.
@rjones3955
3 күн бұрын
I appreciated this comment. It was easier for me to understand after googling to understand the acronyms: CNS - central nervous system RMR - resting metabolic rate
@justmeagain7
3 күн бұрын
Calorie restriction is the key to losing weight. The easiest way I've improved my diet is by keeping a food diary. I take pictures of everything I eat, and reviewing them showed me why I wasn’t losing weight. It keeps me accountable and motivates me to choose healthier options. My husband, who's great with computers, even created an ap that automatically tracks calories and macronutrients from the pictures of my meals. It's really impressive. After using it regularly, we each lost around 10 kg (22 lbs). If you want to try it, the name of the Ap is: Bitebyte. I hope it helps you as much as it helped us!
@PeterMoore-q5k
3 күн бұрын
And most people cannot "diet out" a lack of exercise either! Both are equally critical. Anything that even implies otherwise - which to me this video does - is irresponsibly wrong.
@yurie2388
3 күн бұрын
@@PeterMoore-q5k It basically said that exercise is critical for health. But if your only goal in life is weight loss, decrease how much you eat.
@s.j.warlock4901
2 күн бұрын
Hey, english is not my first language so I might be misunderstanding, but it seemed to me that the inflammation causing diseases they talk about comes from the lack of exercise, and it wasn't the exercise-related inflammation
@ExistingIndividual
5 күн бұрын
Wow the dedication to update your past video due to a few mistakes is commendable! 👍👍
@larisaberesneva-y7n
5 күн бұрын
What was the mistake?
@Moltenlava
5 күн бұрын
not really a minor mistake, they added new disclaimers and sections while removing multiple inaccurate sentences. You can find the full changelog from the link in their description, nonetheless, it only makes their work more commendable
@samthedude2025
5 күн бұрын
Yeah what was it ?
@kate_vye810
5 күн бұрын
@@larisaberesneva-y7n Exactly? That is sad to not know. I watch both video and I think its just the disclaimer.... ._. lol
@Syskoh
5 күн бұрын
@@larisaberesneva-y7n Under the further reading section of the description follow the link. There you can read the changed parts of the script
@yngbld_
4 күн бұрын
The changes are a bit pedantic considering the message is basically the same. Eat less to lose weight. Exercise more to be healthy. But this is one of those topics that gets certain people absolutely incensed, so respect for listening and revisiting the topic.
@HenrikM
4 күн бұрын
I saw the original version too and didn't like it because it said you couldn't lose weight from a calorie deficit, which I think is bogus because I know sooooo many people who lost weight that way including myself. Then I saw this video and was thinking ohh maybe they fixed it. But it said the same thing lol ....
@Magmafrost13
4 күн бұрын
@@HenrikM I cannot even begin to understand how you thought this video was saying "you cant lose weight from a calorie deficit". Thats not even slightly what its saying. Its saying exercise isnt a reliable way to achieve a sustainable calorie deficit
@Asharra12
4 күн бұрын
@HenrikM Yeah mate, agreed with the comment above. They literally said that a calorie deficit is the ONLY way to lose weight and that you won't lose much weight without eating less
@ApocolypseChild
4 күн бұрын
@@HenrikM lol How did you even come to that conclusion? That's the exact *opposite* of what the vid was saying.
@bryankutchens7495
4 күн бұрын
@HenrikM I tried a calorie deficit. Didn't lose a single pound. As an adult male, it's stated in the video my body burns 2600 calories automatically without trying. It turned out I needed to eat more calories because my metabolism was so slow. I increased my normal daily 1500 (diet goal) cal intake to 2800 daily calories. After doing so, 14 months later I'm down 50lbs! It seems counter intuitive, but calorie deficits don't seem to work for the long haul.
@wak69
5 күн бұрын
1:16 those poor birds...
@sweatyeti
5 күн бұрын
5:34 Eh, they're cannibals, so they probably ate them without remorse :P
@studywithrahul_
5 күн бұрын
Yum yum
@Alt.N
5 күн бұрын
Why are so cruel to their own staff 😢
@djentlover
5 күн бұрын
The eye bulging out of the head is so brutal for a cartoon format
@NguyenMinh792
5 күн бұрын
@@djentloverI’m dark-minded now 😢
@melodylon
5 күн бұрын
Get pranked by friends ❌ Get pranked by Kurzgrsagt ✔️
@BCrossing
5 күн бұрын
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@thefalconflame
5 күн бұрын
@@BCrossing its a reupload...
@aqua-bery
5 күн бұрын
?
@FrostArchon
5 күн бұрын
They changed some wordings, but the message is still the same. Wanna lose weight? Cut calories.
@mahadevovnl
5 күн бұрын
@@FrostArchon I'm cutting calories all day long but I'm still getting fatter... how much smaller do I need to cut the slices of cake? :(
@anthropocene-
5 күн бұрын
I don't workout for being physically fit. But to be mentally at peace. It's a great antidepressants.
@marechaltukhachevsky2909
3 күн бұрын
Yeah it is honestly better than therapy
@maryjanehansen7947
3 күн бұрын
no i work out cause i don't eat enough and i want my heart to fail
@AnitaMC86
3 күн бұрын
also helps with anxiety.
@wilcosoetman8138
Күн бұрын
i completely lose my mind when i dont exercise for more than a week.
@williamyoung9401
15 сағат бұрын
"RUN for FUN? What the HELL kind of fun is that??" 🤣🤠 -Back to the Future III
@KenadianKenough
3 күн бұрын
While such a tiny tweak in the core message, the fact you all care about being accurate and receiving/reviewing feedback is SO VALUABLE and why I love your channel.
@Frank-mt1ew
5 күн бұрын
pumping out quality content for over a decade is just insane! Hat off Kurzgesagt! My fav youtube channel for a reason
@watermalone1681
5 күн бұрын
Really nice stuff to acknowledge this video needed to be updated and having done so. Good work folks
@Gaia_BentosZX5
5 күн бұрын
Something that youtube's grifters refuse to do, even when the information they know they are spreading is wrong.
@hobbes3
5 күн бұрын
What got updated or changed from the last video exactly?
@kirbylover37
5 күн бұрын
@@hobbes3check the description
@bluerious5475
5 күн бұрын
@@hobbes3In the description there’s a full list of changes, the point is the same overall but it mostly just addresses the more extreme wording from the original video and adds some addendums.
@azraphon
5 күн бұрын
Was it an improvement? They added a lot of detergent to their sentences is all. A lot of “often” and “some” and “boy it’s complicated” which normal adults should have realised when the first video came out lol
@alonpeleg77
5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the honesty in correcting yourselves
@francescolimosani
5 күн бұрын
What was corrected?
@hailmephistopheles
5 күн бұрын
@@francescolimosanithe link of everything changed is in the description
@francescolimosani
5 күн бұрын
@@hailmephistopheles thank you
@5Dionata5
5 күн бұрын
@@francescolimosani The older video
@hickek6607
5 күн бұрын
Wasn't really any corrections though, just changes in phrasing. Stuff like "Basically the same amount" was changed to "a similar amount". They also added minor clarifications to things that some people earlier misunderstood. They also removed certain sentences that could offend easily offended people.
@Destrifik
4 күн бұрын
Its kind of disingenuous to attribute purely "weight" as a metric for health when muscle weighs more than fat. If youre actively losing weight, and then gaining muscle due to working out, you can expect the delta of fat weight loss vs muscle weight gain to get smaller and smaller
@micahandjessi
10 сағат бұрын
True, but the rate of gain for muscle vs the rate of loss for fat is vastly different. The level of effort and time required to gain 10lbs of muscle for instance may be 3-5x that of losing 10lbs of fat. By the time the delta narrows people are generally already lean enough that it no longer matters
@breadymcd
5 күн бұрын
I highly respect the move to reupload and post the corrections so publicly, even despite it potentially harming algorithmic factors.
@MrPootzen
4 күн бұрын
seemed like exactly the same video to me
@breadymcd
4 күн бұрын
@@MrPootzen If you go to the description, they have a document listing all the changes. Its primarily a change to how they present the data and some slight corrections, overall the same message however its presented far better and accurately
@aabhishek88
4 күн бұрын
Was looking for this comment .. I thought I was the only one who noticed that it was a re-upload 😊
@ArawnOfAnnwn
4 күн бұрын
@@MrPootzen The gist is the same, just the phrasing is modified somewhat.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
4 күн бұрын
@@aabhishek88 It's literally titled 'updated version' and the thumbnail says 'Fixed'. Everyone knows it's a re-upload.
@imadork123
5 күн бұрын
Thank you for providing the script changes in the description. I wanted to know what changed, but I did not want to have to comb through each video.
@pierre-luclatreille5022
3 күн бұрын
I don't really comment on videos, but I wanted to say that I really appreciated the effort that went through the revision. It is clearer and the information more accurate. That is a great way to handle the criticism of the previous video and gaining trust of the audience. It is very rare to see that level of professionalism, you have all my respect.
@ModekaiPL
5 күн бұрын
One thing important is that people should not focus on losing weight, but losing fat. When you exercise you build muscles which are heavier than fat, so people do not notice the change on their scale and give up. Another thing important is what people eat, a balanced diet with few processed food helps the body a lot.
@the_seeker.entity9206
5 күн бұрын
You can lose a lb of fat per week pretty easily. No one is gaining a lb of muscle in a week. That's just not how it balances out. You're not in enough of a caloric deficit if you're not seeing weight loss.
@whowhat.wherewhen
5 күн бұрын
I can tell you for a fact what you said works, and it works very well.
@chrisprilloisebola
5 күн бұрын
@@the_seeker.entity9206 sure, but over a longer period of time, like a few months to a year, the weight on the scale could show slower weight loss when muscle is being put on.
@jonathanodude6660
5 күн бұрын
@@chrisprilloisebola you would notice your muscles growing and your goals would change.
@chrisprilloisebola
5 күн бұрын
@@jonathanodude6660 Right, but im just referring to the scale like op did.
@ottelf
5 күн бұрын
4:07 - Bro unlocked 3 free days of Super Duolingo
@MyChris174
5 күн бұрын
Underrated comment
@ottelf
5 күн бұрын
@@MyChris174 I mean... It's been here for half an hour only. Thanks a lot though 😊
@kaan732
4 күн бұрын
lmaooo
@whatusernameshaveleft2822
3 күн бұрын
Hahahhaahahah
@DiscordGirll
5 күн бұрын
I love that they went as far as updating a whole video just to be accurate
@dmitry.gashko
5 күн бұрын
And still they're NOT.
@TheMrHiddenShadow
5 күн бұрын
@@dmitry.gashko you should re-read the channel name
@blackbloom_bitterfruit2489
4 күн бұрын
@@dmitry.gashko Yup. Still very misleading. It would be good to address the thermodynamics better. Simplifying things can be good, but this is just going to confuse people.
@fatbardh2
4 күн бұрын
Uploading a whole video with basically 90% of the same content is just trying to cash in on the controversy by doubling the views will little extra effort.
@brunospasta
4 күн бұрын
Still there are so many flaws: 1) On the study regarding the Hadza tribe, the 3rd group that is tested, Bolivan farmers, casually is ignored in the video. Because for the Bolivan farmers more movement does result in higher energy expeditor! 2) Bringing up the study that shows people from developing countries do not burn more calories than people from industrial countries. Yes, the study shows that. But it also shows that they dont have a higher "physical activity level"! So it does not support the claim of: They are more active and burn the same amount. 3) The study regarding "Constrained Total Energy Expenditure and Metabolic Adaptation to Physical Activity in Adult Humans" does show that the overall energy expenditor does not increase in an addtive way. But my problem with that study is that it completely ignores the calorie intake of the persons. If they kept it the same for all the test subjects, then this is an expected result. When you are active, e.g. doing sports, you need to also fuel your body properly. If you dont do that for a long period of time (in the study it was 4 weeks when the effects were seen!), then your metabolism will be changed in a way that you dont burn so much anymore cause your body goes into energy saving mode. This is a well known and researched effect. 4) and so on...
@Frikiman_H
2 күн бұрын
They do raise some good points, but they also leave a lot of good points behind. Such as the fact that increased activity level beyond a certain point _does_ increase energy consumption, but the body compensates by increasing hunger in step. Lots of cultures around the world (my own included) have a tradition of very high calorie, fat-dense meals, most likely in order to prepare people for long days of physical labor. It is now that the amount of physical labor required to sustain yourself is much lower that those traditional dishes pose an issue.
@istvanczap3004
Күн бұрын
@@Frikiman_H "Lots of cultures around the world (my own included) have a tradition of very high calorie, fat-dense meals, most likely in order to prepare people for long days of physical labor. It is now that the amount of physical labor required to sustain yourself is much lower that those traditional dishes pose an issue." - this, my grandfather was eating bacon with lard practically, and he was lean muscled - he was working in the garden even after retirement, and he was practically on the move until the day he died.
@atgctg
5 күн бұрын
Watching this while working out
@abrahamkimu8683
5 күн бұрын
W
@cadenchan8000
5 күн бұрын
lol
@theunicornenthusiast7194
5 күн бұрын
Same
@theunicornenthusiast7194
5 күн бұрын
Same
@keima_john
5 күн бұрын
Same hahaha
@gamerx3071
5 күн бұрын
6:34 me when I open KZitem and don't see a Kurzgesagt notification
@cheeto1327
4 күн бұрын
Never thought I’d see an impact frame in a kurzgesagt video 💀
@SSaReal
5 күн бұрын
5:36 bird eating bird
@jackdog06
5 күн бұрын
Birds eat other birds all the time, for what it’s worth. In the same way mammals eat other mammals.
@userJohnSmith
5 күн бұрын
Bird eating steak. Dramatically more terrifying.
@SSaReal
5 күн бұрын
@@userJohnSmith fr
@mx4life560
5 күн бұрын
@@jackdog06Considering all the birds in the Kurzgesagt universe a sentient it's still lowkey weird😂
@block_place1232
5 күн бұрын
a kiwi eating a kiwi
@ChibiAccount
Күн бұрын
Part of what makes this the best KZitem channel ever is course correcting when needed.
@KevinementD
15 сағат бұрын
This video is still full of questionable information. I’m appalled honestly.
@pwner2298
5 күн бұрын
0:11 I appreciate the nightmares im going to have.
@Tommycat_da_kitty
5 күн бұрын
LOLL
@ZiyadDyingtricycle
5 күн бұрын
The black man⁉️⁉️⁉️
@druidic4353
5 күн бұрын
No the inside of him @@ZiyadDyingtricycle
@ZiyadDyingtricycle
5 күн бұрын
@@druidic4353 well that doesn’t really look that scary
@pwner2298
5 күн бұрын
@@ZiyadDyingtricycle Those teeth/lips are going to haunt me.
@arcadeyous
5 күн бұрын
8:53 😂 what a way to dis children
@rmlimntd2559
5 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@dillieillie
4 күн бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@DrRayaAber
5 күн бұрын
1:20 i expected everything but this...
@everythingofnone
3 күн бұрын
😢
@stickboy79
3 күн бұрын
Yeah I was like YO that was a tone shift! Why was it so brutal?!
@noorlita
9 сағат бұрын
You can never outrun a bad diet 🤷♀️
@angeloschaloulis1394
2 күн бұрын
As a dietitian I was shocked to what was uploaded before but actually this video fixes a lot of the problem, thank you for explaining it in a better way!
@JamesMattJohn
4 күн бұрын
I wasn't one of the people who complained about the last video, but I did watch it. This video feels like it gives me a lot more usable information that I can understand easier. That bit about extra inflammation as a result of having too much energy leftover is something I'm gonna be thinking about often.
@sharpcircle6875
4 күн бұрын
Yeah I literally just started doing push-ups, squats, sit ups and curling immediately after I heard that part about redirected energy lol. I always had that idea that I didn't eat enough for my body to restore my muscles from workout, but when I heard that my body was just being an asshole that didn't redirect the energy gained where it actually needed to be, I feel like I won't be going back in that place for a while lol. Technically I already started working out again a more than a week ago but got a bit sloppy the last few days lol
@rjones3955
3 күн бұрын
Agree, to me that is the game-changing idea that really motivates me to eat differently and exercise more. I kinda feel like all the new info in the second video buries that point, but most here seem to like the updates.
@s.j.warlock4901
2 күн бұрын
I have literally spent the last week wondering why my back stopped hurting right after exercising, and why my anxiety levels suddenly dropped in the second half of the day. Now I know that the reason is that very chill workout series I do in my study breaks, originally intended to keep me awake. It's mindblowing.
@KazeDasuto
5 күн бұрын
I've watched the original video and a lot of responses about the mistakes there. The exercise community is eager to correct mistakes because there is so much misinformation. I love that you took responsibility and corrected your video instead of deleting it. You have my respect. You make great videos and I hope you will have only luck creating new content.
@solutionsforabrightfuture3579
3 күн бұрын
Most people including the space station, don't know how much intensity is needed to get real results when resistance training. I saw a video of the space station doing squats and deadlifts. If you want real results. You should barely be able to stand if at all after working squats and deadlifts. You have to push your body using your mind to the point of you mind thinks it is life or death.
@kittydisk
3 күн бұрын
@@solutionsforabrightfuture3579 disgustingly flawed and dangerous way of thinking. do not purposely over exert yourself, please.
@nichtsicher422
3 күн бұрын
@@solutionsforabrightfuture3579 Wrong. If you are beginner almost not working out at all will give you great results, but as your body creates muscle mass you will need to up the weights and the sets more and more. Still, for one or two years you are completly fine, if you finish within 2-5 Reps in Reserve.
@solutionsforabrightfuture3579
2 күн бұрын
@@kittydisk Taking it easy doesn't get results. Pushing your body gets real results.
@Zopeee
2 күн бұрын
@@kittydiskwhat he is talking about is going to failure on your sets, not being in danger while doing your workout, this shows that either you have absolutely no clue what he is talking about, or are a troll.
@DeenSomally
5 күн бұрын
massive respect for listening to the people and going back to rework
@pa01biodinesh32
3 күн бұрын
Such a useful content. Thank you. Wish it went much deeper maybe longer videos
@davethebrave.
5 күн бұрын
This is the first time I've seen this video i have been doing it for years and now I'm looking forward to seeing more of it
@recksznagz6521
5 күн бұрын
i was literally watching the video 15 mins before this one released cause it came up on my recommended. kurzgesagt is spooky
@subject8776
5 күн бұрын
Doing what for years? Working out? Watching Kurzgesagt?
@kinomora-gaming
5 күн бұрын
Really good on you to update the video - I tried sharing this with a few friends who all disregarded it as "bull" because the current understanding of weight loss is all just "work out more" and calling it a "paradox" doesn't drive interest in people that dont want to hear that science changes
@fluffycritter
3 күн бұрын
That “two birds with one stone” gag is still uncharacteristically violent for Kurzgesagt.
@ryan99842
5 күн бұрын
find book Unveiling Your Hidden Potential by Bruce Thornwood. Whoever find this book will have unfair adventage than other poeple. You'll thank me later
@sandales
4 күн бұрын
Bot ?
@Winters637
4 күн бұрын
covert marketing comment. most likely from a bot.
@ryleryeezy7334
4 күн бұрын
the book sucked
@TheBreezeShoot
4 күн бұрын
Damn the bots are getting crazy.
@Rainbowpuro
4 күн бұрын
alright suspiciously big mustached top hat wearing account owner
@isaacr7416
5 күн бұрын
My wife is a dietician and agrees this version makes more sense! Love that you made this update!!
@BobbyHill26
5 күн бұрын
Looking at the errata, you can really see Dr Mike’s voice coming through in the additions. I thought the last video was good because it addresses something most people aren’t aware of, but it was a bit sensationalist and overstated the case, so it’s good to see a revised video
@eetuhalonen9902
5 күн бұрын
I think they should´ve scrapped this video. It´s better after the revisions, but "workout paradox" in the thumbnail and "We Need To Rethink Exercise" are too dramatic and clickbaity.
@raawesome3851
5 күн бұрын
I've been going to the gym every day for the past 2 weeks, and man, it's made me happier.
@LuckyNobody1
5 күн бұрын
I'm on the opposite side to you, i've got a stomach problem that the doctors are trying to figure out so ive not been going to the gym for a few weeks now. And that is after going 5 times a week for about a year. I feel so off mentally, I knew the gym helped me but I didnt realise how much I was relying on it for my happiness and sanity.
@subject8776
5 күн бұрын
Every day? What exactly do you do in the gym?
@JasonTheOneAndOnly
5 күн бұрын
I've been going for about a decade, and it's the only anti depression pill I need.
@hedera1332
5 күн бұрын
Yep, those happy chemicals the brain releases when you exercise are good shit. It part of why going for a walk is recommended if you are feeling upset.
@raawesome3851
5 күн бұрын
@@subject8776 Swimming, weightlifting, stretches, stuff like that.
@ITS-HALBY
5 күн бұрын
A misconception kind of related is the fact that many people associate body building with fitness. I wanted to compete, so I was pushing myself extremely hard until a Mr. Olympia medalist I talked to at my gym told me "bodybuilding isn't about staying alive longer, it's about winning more, it's not healthy, it's not fit" so a lot of people are just trying to take themselves from one extreme to the next when longevity and sustainably are the more viable strategies.
@Nathan-lw3nd
5 күн бұрын
It always has been eating. For anyone who wants to test the theory go right ahead and you can lose calories very easily by changing your diet only. I've tested it randomly going from 170lbs to 150lbs in two months, AND I stopped doing cardio at the gym. I just ate less. The weight stayed off as well. Great video. It is done so well that I will share it with all my friends and family. Love this channel.
@jooheonshoneybal
4 күн бұрын
Isnt it muscle loss or smth like that?
@adidab14
4 күн бұрын
i don't think the main criticism of this video disagrees that diet is important for weight loss and probably more effective for total weight loss than exercise, i think the crux of the problem is the video seems to go out of its way to say that exercise is virtually pointless in the endeavor to lose body fat which is almost comically inaccurate. Anyone who trains for a cardio event can tell you that an uptick in exercise intensity or frequency can drastically effect what they have to eat to avoid losing too much weight/muscle. Why is that? It's because they are burning more calories through exercise. This video is annoyingly detrimental to this idea and the "retraction" is almost more of an insult to that very idea because of the fact it just doubles down on what they said last time lol.
@Nathan-lw3nd
4 күн бұрын
@@jooheonshoneybal Some for sure should have been muscle loss, but I didnt get weaker in the gym. My bench press and bicep curl stayed the same.
@Nathan-lw3nd
4 күн бұрын
@@adidab14 I think the video talks about normal exercise not helping, it could help at first, but then your body will adapt. Intense exercise is something that should always burn more since you're over-exerting your body. No one constantly over exerts their body like that for long periods of time though, which make it effective.
@brunospasta
4 күн бұрын
@@Nathan-lw3nd everybody that does any kind of sport more or less seriously „over-exerts“ their body pretty much on a daily basis. The key is to fuel your body properly. You can of course be in a deficit sometimes. But do it for too long and workouts get ineffective and your metabolism slows down. This is also true for having a deficit from eating less, but maybe not as bad. I guess thats the point the video tries to make, but imho doesnt do a good job of it 🤷♂️
@brandonthomas6862
Күн бұрын
I'm not even done with this version and it's SO MUCH BETTER. The first one really put me off from messaging down to not really filling in many of the missing items present here. It really could lead people to the wrong conclusions like "exercise is pointless so might as well not do it". It's still really important
@RyuLightorb
5 күн бұрын
i was stuck at 115kg for 4 years didn't change my diet at all just started exercising over being sedentary lost 30kg in a year. exercise is pog
@eclogitetack
5 күн бұрын
Congrats!
@herecomesdatchin1327
5 күн бұрын
"Exercise is pog" (Lightorb, 2024, p. 61).
@LLS.R
2 сағат бұрын
If you don’t stuff it in your mouth than you don’t have to train to lose it.
@connorgoosen2468
5 күн бұрын
Mad props for your commitment to getting things right! With the amount of videos (not to mention the quality) you make it's inevitable that mistakes will be made. The integrity you hold by correcting it and being transparent about it is really commendable!
@peacemaster8117
5 күн бұрын
They haven't corrected anything, they've just softened the language.
@mikebarnacle1469
3 күн бұрын
It's completely wrong and misinterpretation of the science and that's incredibly obvious just looking at the real world where people who resistance train are lean and fit and not dieting all the time. I'm literally sitting here with a 6 pack and not hungry and this video is telling me I'm wrong about everything I've learned and applied that led to that.
@DJFelixChester
5 күн бұрын
As I’ve learned more about how my body works it became a lot easier for me to make changes and lose excess weight. One thing I’ve started telling people when they ask what exercises I do to lose weight is that, “I don’t exercise to lose weight, I exercise to choose which parts of my weight I want to keep.”
@alexanderveritas
5 күн бұрын
5:36 *Birb humanoids eating chicken moment*
@TheCangar
5 күн бұрын
I really appreciate not only the fact that you listened and corrected the previous video but you also made the changes transparent in an easily accessible document. Thank you, you rock!
@lethality86
5 күн бұрын
I have noticed this for awhile now and had not been successful in exercising in the last decade. But this year, I moved to a new country and started eating healthier meals and have lost about 7kg in 6 months! So the food intake part seems to be more important than exercising
@AnonamemusHacker-yk2dh
5 күн бұрын
Exercise should be an integral part of ur life and not just be seen as a tool for fat loss
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69
5 күн бұрын
Well it's easier to eat 200 calories than burn them
@mk_dezeteu
5 күн бұрын
Quality of food is crucial here. It's not just about counting calories. If you include some exercises in your habits you will thank yourself later, and you don't even need to be crazy about it. Staying idle for long periods of time is a recipe for diseases.
@NazzyDragon
5 күн бұрын
Always has been about what you eat. Exercise is just a supplement.
@RDMan3095
5 күн бұрын
It's both food and eating actually. I expect this to be touched upon in the next video but your focus should a spread accros the ingredients inside the food. It's well known that eating sugar makes you fat but you'll need some to keep your brain happy. Same for protein being super important for both muscle growth and your immune system. It, in ways, doesn't really matter what you eat. It just matters that you get the right ingredients that fit your desires and lifestyle
@cinestillsamurai
3 күн бұрын
The random kid slander was so unexpected but I am here for it lmao
@DjVortex-w
5 күн бұрын
This is what good science reporting should be: When there are inaccuracies and mistakes, you revise and correct them.
@monotonespectrum
5 күн бұрын
What was the mistake? I'm trying to find it in the comments and I can't seem to find it
@cami5173
5 күн бұрын
@@monotonespectrum old video bad info. new video better info... still not great tho. someone will do a video on this in more detail than my comment im sure
@DjVortex-w
4 күн бұрын
@@monotonespectrum The pinned comment has a link to a document that shows the changes and corrections.
@electricant55
3 күн бұрын
Nope, they doubled down on their asinine hypothesis
@tom-lord
4 күн бұрын
So you've tried to "fix" the video by adding a bunch of wooly language and uncertainties? No, sorry, the video still seems fundamentally wrong to me. You can't seriously be telling us that person who climbs a mountain every day will burn roughly the same number of calories as a person who lies in bed all day. That's just nonsense.
@Paraselene_Tao
5 күн бұрын
I work out specfically to grow muscle, and this video doesn't touch much or at all on that topic. I'm solidly happy with my body fat percentage. I'm working on becoming stronger, more lean, and more functional. I resistance train about 3x/week with progressive overload on compounds in the 5 rep range. I'm following a free online program called Stronglifts 5x5. I've done this for a year, and I've seen big changes. I recommend it for everyone because we should all be putting some effort into becoming stronger. My form of resistance training isn't the only way, but it's a very good way to build muscle. For me, because I'm not worried about body fat, my diet is focused on high protein. The calories simply follow my protein, and I don't worry about calories. That approach may not work for everyone because folks have different goals or prioritize certain goals over others. Maybe one day, I'll work on getting my body fat percentage to 15% or so, but for now, I'm happy at about 22%.
@Yannister
4 күн бұрын
who asked
@kushmush8714
3 күн бұрын
@@YannisterLet the guy share his experiences, no need to be an asshole about it.
@khakoabdulla
4 күн бұрын
i was experienced highest weight in my life the last year , fortunately i started gym and controlled my diet , it made me loss 15kg in 5 month , and then i faced weight-loss plateau , but its not a big deal actually , now im in a good shape and i proud of my body , i also keep doing workouts as long as i can cuz it keep my balance and its my happiness fr , thanks kurzgesagt for your video🌱
@-Raylight
5 күн бұрын
This brings the *"You're your own worst enemy"* to the new level. Imagine exercising hard and eating less only for your body to sabotage yourself Good intention but they should tell us first, wish we could say communication is important to our body xD
@MisterCynic18
5 күн бұрын
Well you sabotaged it first by creating a civilization where it was physically possible to find and eat 10,000 calories worth of food on a daily basis lol
@potatoppppower
5 күн бұрын
@@MisterCynic18 As well as the creeping corruption of the food industry by profit motives! The media often report on food science with oversimplifications and sometimes deliberate misrepresentations of scientific research. That in turn makes nutritional science confusing and inscrutable for most people.
@Jcewazhere
5 күн бұрын
Don't have to imagine it, I'm living it lol Lost 20lbs in 2 months, then the following almost 3 months now I've gained and lost the same 10lbs over and over. Plateaus suck. I'm still down ~25lbs consistently which is nice, but I want another 50 gone.
@86zerueldososo64
5 күн бұрын
>Imagine exercising hard and eating less only for your body to sabotage yourself Imagine believing this actually happens. This video and the whole fat-positive propaganda machine really did a number on you morons.
@MrAlternateTheory
4 күн бұрын
@@Jcewazhere What about composition? Would you say you are leaner at the same given weight, or no difference in that department? I don't think that 10lbs is entirely the plateau you may see (though it is a prompt to adjust/refocus); Lets say over 5mths you are down 25lbs from where you started (which is actually really good). But now consider you are possibly down 35 - 40lbs from where you would have otherwise finished! I.e. Don't just compare to where you started the journey, but also to where you would otherwise have finished the journey (like I said, I'm envious, 25lb is great... best of luck with your goals)
@kelvinpraises
4 күн бұрын
While I appreciate the effort to be more scientifically precise, I miss the punch of the original video. Sometimes, a blunt message is what we need to shake us out of our assumptions. The core point still stands: exercise alone often isn't the answer for weight loss. But let's not forget the bigger picture here. We're caught between fitness influencers selling workouts, food companies pushing processed junk, and pharma companies profiting from both obesity and weight loss drugs. Maybe the real takeaway should be: question everything, start with your diet, and remember that health is about more than just weight. What do you all think? Did the update improve the message, or pander around?
@Lord_of_Evil
Сағат бұрын
The new version is weak. The producers gave in to the mob. Sad but true.
@rimlatv
5 күн бұрын
I feel that Greg Doucette will review this once again. 😅
@tubax926
3 күн бұрын
They didn't make too many changes for him to make a full video about it, but he perhaps might make a post, or include it as a segment in a separate video.
@vir_rm
2 сағат бұрын
I think people are misunderstanding this video. It’s not dissuading people from working out at all, and instead it’s illustrating how inflammatory and anxiety inducing not moving our bodies ends up being for us. This actually makes a lot of sense for me and helped elucidate some things about which I have been wondering. It’s an important video and I’m very glad it was made, specially because of how much that explains things in my personal life.
@alpine_studio
5 күн бұрын
Key point summarized: Exercise is healthy because it removes energy from processes that harm your body and uses it for movement instead.
@Onaterdem
4 күн бұрын
In other words: Our bodies naturally expect lots of movement, so they produce a lot of hormones related to that; and if we don't exercise, the excess hormones end up hurting us instead.
@ikhbjhbkm5
4 күн бұрын
That's not the key point at all. The key point is that the current obesity epidemic is caused by over eating and not by under exercising. And over eating is mostly caused by the rapid change in the ease of obtaining large amounts of calories. Losing/gaining weight is hugely effected by calorie intake, and very minimally effected by changes in activity level or excessive. "If you want to lose fat, reducing calories is the biggest part of the answer".
@alpine_studio
4 күн бұрын
@@ikhbjhbkm5 This is the key point for those who want to lose fat. I summarized the key point about why exercise is healthy.
@JoelMcCary
5 күн бұрын
What working out actually does Makes you fundamentally happier Helps you gain more muscle What it doesnt do Make you lose weight You need to eat less calories around 1500 give or take a day and youll start losing weight i lost 20 something pounds in 3 months doing this
@toriiiiiiiiiiiiiii
5 күн бұрын
Also exercising makes you mobile and healthy in old age! I want to be able to walk places, pick up my grandkids, travel, run my own errands and do my own chores when I’m old so I exercise!
@Rich50v
2 күн бұрын
I've gone from 24.10 stone to 17.13 stone in exactly 5 months to the day. My diet is around 1100 - 1500 calories a day and is fairly well balanced (good amounts of fruit and veg). I only do two things for exercise: I walk anywhere between 8-12 miles a day (sometimes more sometimes less) I do push ups (i'm still too heavy/weak for more than a handful of horizontal ones so they are mainly against surfaces) An older family member is doing the exact same diet as me but not the walking or push ups and has lost 1.3 stone. So in my opinion, exercise is 100% vital to (fast) weight loss. I am not bragging, just stating my observations, make of it what you will.
@197228sept
Күн бұрын
I don’t want to take away any of your achievement - you are working hard and have truly dropped a lot of weight - but I don’t see how this comparison with your older family member is relevant… Is your family member also in the same weight range? Were you on the same diet before you switched to the new one with less calories? Do they take meds? Yes, some meds do cause the body to retain water, for example, or to build more fat! Let’s face it, you were obese before you changed your diet and started working out. Now you are probably around the weight you should be (it is based on your height and age too, after all). You lost that weight because it was sustained by your lifestyle. As the video states, calorie depravation and introduction of movement do help but over time, you will slow down on the weight loss. Nevertheless, proud of you! It is not an easy change but I am glad you have stuck to it! ❤
@Sashagatti96
3 күн бұрын
Much better than the old one but i still believe movement and workouts is a mist for losing weight in a healthy way. Forming strong habits and surrounding yourself with active people is good for your body and mind. Also the small amount of extra burning that muscle gives u is not a one off. It does stack up
@krellin
5 күн бұрын
yes more cope to not work out
@dVector13
5 күн бұрын
they literally still advocate for working out at multiple points of the video.
@krellin
5 күн бұрын
@@dVector13 yeah after excusing not working out... for all the fatties out there, working out fucking works the best, why? because when you start working out your appetite adjusts, i started eating actually less when i started working out and feeling better. Consistent workout fixes shit ton of things not just weight.
@gaspi91
4 күн бұрын
"you don't have to workout, your body will literally sabotage ypu.. But still you can workout" What an advocate.
@krellin
4 күн бұрын
@@gaspi91 phizer should have sponsored this video
@Zopeee
2 күн бұрын
@@dVector13yeah but most people do so for weightloss, so them saying it doesnt do much does harm this, they also didnt realy mention that you can overcome the adaptions, your body does to reduce cals burnt, when working out just by having longer seesions/ones that burn more cals, your body cant infinitly reduce the cals, you passivly burn, only like 100 to atmost 300(absolute max tho)or so a day.
@swamphawk6227
5 күн бұрын
"More correct than last time" -Coach Greg
@DelroyBarnies
5 күн бұрын
I'm just waiting for his response to this one.
@kashinadoing
5 күн бұрын
mee too
@peacemaster8117
5 күн бұрын
Greg never understood the topic or took the time to read the research to begin with. He just wants to sell his cookbook.
@reece207
4 күн бұрын
@@peacemaster8117 They are still saying exersize isn't good for weight loose which greg says it is the best way to do it.
@ZackZavage
4 күн бұрын
@@peacemaster8117yeah right, calories in calories out is a lie kappa
@Encrusteddead
5 күн бұрын
I went from 220 lbs to 120 from skateboarding, I started progressing and learning new tricks, and most importantly I enjoyed it way more.
@mbb3658
3 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing video Kurzgesagt!! This one importicula was very enlightening. Thank you
@manuel6183
3 күн бұрын
But how does this explain the increased calorie intakes of pro athletes. Especially in the sectors that lift heavy weights. If you follow this line of thought you guys laid out they just would adapt and wouldn't need to consume these huge amounts of food each day. But that's not what we see in real life. Hate to do it but i have to call at least some parts of this video bs.
@abderrahemjlassir8741
5 күн бұрын
i've beeen waiting aloot to find someone who explains this easily since everyone is saying diffrent things really thank uoi kurzgesagt u've helped alot hope yall can relate to this
@zomcom11
5 күн бұрын
It really is calories in:calories out for weight loss/gain. But exercise is still extremely important for overall health especially if you have a sedentary lifestyle. However, regular intense exercise (think half marathons/marathons/2 hour+ activity) you do need to eat more if you want to sustain that type of activity regularly.
@vashsunglasses
5 күн бұрын
They said all that in the video.
@HoltAlex
4 күн бұрын
That's the best summary. I don't think the overall message has really changed from this with the updates, they've just updated a few phrases to allow for the marathon runners etc who do actually need to eat 5525548 calories a day to maintain.
@garrettwallace1302
Күн бұрын
I’ve been fit my entire life, and have had lots of friends and family give me advice for being skinny. The thing I’ve always told them is improving their lifestyle before ever thinking about losing weight. Being “skinny” is a lifelong journey that most people will never be satisfied with, but being fit and feeling better than you did yesterday is always something you can feel good about
@CyberGrape
5 күн бұрын
Ouff, I'm not so sure this video was a good idea in general. The updates that clarify some points are appreciated but some do seem to contradict the point this video is trying to make now. Thinking specifically about these two sentences here: "Per kilo of [-body-] *muscle* weight, your body has a relatively fixed calorie budget it wants to burn per day." "If you stay really consistent your burn might increase slightly and your body composition might change, but most people struggle with keeping up the habit, if they don’t love the extra movement. Which is why so many people hit a weight loss plateau." That says to me the problem isn't actually that the calorie burn is leveling out, it's that people are not properly keeping up with their habits after a while. I also think releasing part 1 that basically says "Don't use exercise to lose weight, consume fewer calories" without releasing part 2 that focuses on proper nutrition, promotes dangerous dieting practices. I wish this hadn't been released on its own without offering the proper advice that is hopefully coming eventually in part 2!
@danielborrus
4 сағат бұрын
That was really well said. The revisions they made kind of back-peddle on their prior conclusions. Ultimately, I think the evidence for the constrained energy model is still a little shaky and it's far from nailed down. Claiming it as fact, like this video and its predecessor did, is just dishonest presentation of scientific data.
@catmate8358
3 күн бұрын
I hate exercise. I'm glad this video told me I can stop :)
@maxsch.7743
Күн бұрын
You are making excuses. This videos does not tell you to stop exercising.
@user-bn5vs7nq3o
4 күн бұрын
This video is literally two steps ahead.
@zigdanis
4 күн бұрын
This is a bold move, I admire that. I don’t know yet what was the issue with the previous video. But acknowledging own mistakes is a great great sign of people who is smart and honest. I like that a lot👍❤️
@whisperSSG8
4 күн бұрын
I think it could still be worded better but this is miles better than the original. That one was straight misinformation
@libertyprime5965
2 күн бұрын
Then why does Michael Phelps need to eat 10,000 plus calories a day when training and still look like a Greek god?
@nine1690
Күн бұрын
Because of the level of activity (and drugs, lots of drugs)
Your first point is mostly optional. It's the second that leads to the third.
@ailurusfulgens1849
4 күн бұрын
This is moronic beyond belief. Eating healthy food doesn't mean anything, you can absolutely be morbidly obese while only eating "healthy foods" and be lean as fuck only eating candies. Your bathroom scale is the only reliable way you have to ensure you're maintaining a healthy caloric deficit, or a deficit at all. You need to weight yourself regularly when losing weight, you just need to learn not to stress over it. Count your calories, weight yourself regularly and you will absolutely drop weight.
@vivvvvian
4 күн бұрын
@@ailurusfulgens1849Why are you being hostile lol, just relax. Everyone is different and has different needs. For lots of people scales just become anxiety devices which increase stress which leads to stress eating. This is just one reason why someone may feel inclined not to weigh themselves.
@ailurusfulgens1849
4 күн бұрын
@@vivvvvian then work on managing your stress instead of abandoning the only reliable way of checking if you are maintaining your caloric deficit.
@henrique.campos
4 күн бұрын
@@ailurusfulgens1849 the problem is that muscles weight way more than fat. So at some point you will be gaining weights, weighting way more, but be less fatty(less body fat %) and some people think that they are getting fattier if they are becoming heavier, which is not true. So, what she said makes sense. You can lose weight eating only candies and junk food, but weight is not a measure of healthiness. Especially because to build muscles you need protein, which is kinda hard to find even if you eat the best foods. So the major issue here is thinking less weight = healthier. This is not true, and @Audrey-s7g comment is really good if you understand that. Using scales as a measure of healthy can be misleading after some breaking point. Build muscles, follow your diet meeting your macro nutrients, forget about your weight, focus on your body % percentage. Good indicators that don't necessarily reflect scale: clothes. If your clothes are fitting better, getting loose, and you are able to wear slimmer clothes, you are doing good.
@MrPieguyDaBoss
4 күн бұрын
You should start putting the ad in the middle so i dont have to skip over it to get to the outro which is always a catchy calming tune
@pancakepower321
5 күн бұрын
1:54 PROCHARA SPOTTED!!!!
@samsee_ca
5 күн бұрын
i’d recognize that red octoling anywhere!!!!
@killager6767
5 күн бұрын
That’s insane
@AllisterVinris
5 күн бұрын
WAY better. This one doesn't make me want to unsubscribe and stop all my efforts. I appreciate it. Good work.
@woodandwandco
5 күн бұрын
What got me to unsubscribe is the WEF propaganda.
@PRGRAMMING
4 күн бұрын
@@woodandwandco What's WEF?
@woodandwandco
4 күн бұрын
@@PRGRAMMING The fact that you don't know who controls your life is troublesome. The World Economic Forum, the largest gathering of like-minded multi-billionaires who want you to die so they can live forever.
@bmhyakiri
4 күн бұрын
@@woodandwandcocan you give an example of that from this channel? I don’t really watch it so I’m genuinely asking why you say that
@PRGRAMMING
4 күн бұрын
@@woodandwandco Wow, you've enlightened me. Thank god you exist. I trust everything you say. Thank you for informing me how much WEF is controlling my life, even though your 'anti-WEF' messages are somehow being allowed to be posted, and I can read them - still means that somehow, WEF is still in complete control... clearly...
@syindrome
4 күн бұрын
This video has so much obviously and logically wrong information. I feel dumber than last time.
@bedd444
4 күн бұрын
The video should be titled "we need to rethink fat loss."
@victorodionov
4 күн бұрын
It became quite difficult to watch kurgesagt recently. Lost the point by the middle of the video actually. I do weight loss, it works quite consistently and proportional for me. 2017 - 20kg, 2024-25 - 10kg so far and moving on to the goal of 76kg. It's simple but not easy, mind sabotages - yes, but when I reach a certain time it shifts to a "regime".
@Yannister
4 күн бұрын
Maybe uninstall tiktok and instagram if your attention span is less than 6 minutes...
@spu00trb
Күн бұрын
The weird thing is that it’s not ‘sabotage’. Fat burns energy, as you lose weight, you will burn less calories, making it harder to lose more weight. Heavy, unfit bodies are inefficient bodies, meaning if you run 10 miles, you burn more calories than if you are thinner. It’s not sabotage, their whole ‘bodies magically burn extra calories’ thing is just bunk. It’s just that the more you eat, the harder it is to lose weight, and the more you succeed in losing weight, the harder it is to lose more.
@davidmertes6308
4 күн бұрын
and Again you ignore the fact that in the Studies comparing the Hunter Tribes with modern society that the hunters are way lighter than with the same Kalorie intake. Exercise and Calorie counting work.
@eldritchmonsterofnorfolk7253
3 күн бұрын
Hey I’d love to read that study, could you link it?
@davidmertes6308
3 күн бұрын
@@eldritchmonsterofnorfolk7253 It was linked under the old version of this video i have to search to
@shrimpbread7284
3 күн бұрын
Not to mention they probably have much greater lean mass/ more muscle then fat. Body recomp is real thing. Most people who start working out that aren’t overtly overweight will experience I slight loss of weight and then taper off after a while but they still will have converted a lot of fat to muscle. I respect that kurgastat updated there video but it seems they have a pattern of uploading misleading information even after the update
@ismailabaza411
2 күн бұрын
How do you even know the amount of calories hunter gatherers ate a day? Also wouldn’t the amount of calories be heavily dependent on if they caught an animal that day or not? Calorie frequency affects weight heavily cause if you eat a lot of food at once your body isn’t gonna absorb all of it.
@0mn1P4wn4g3
2 күн бұрын
They study modern hunter-gatherers mentioned in the video.
@RandomizedNonsense
4 күн бұрын
Ever since I watched Dr. Mike (the exercise scientist not the actual doctor) talk about how he collaborated with you guys on a video, I've been waiting for this video! I love that one of my favorite science channels delved into exercise science!
@williamjglover
7 сағат бұрын
What do you mean, not the actual doctor. If one has the Dr title, one is a doctor
@RandomizedNonsense
6 сағат бұрын
@williamjglover There are two doctor Mike's on KZitem that I know of, one is has a PhD in exercise science and the other is a medical doctor. It is a running joke on the channels when they meet since their channel names are so similar.
@ronaldgarrison8478
Күн бұрын
A few decades back, a lot of the messaging going around was that caloric restriction is futile, and that exercise was not just helpful, but was the ONLY thing that helped. For a short time, one popularizer getting a lot of attention was Covert Bailey, who enjoyed a lot of attention from PBS audiences. Now, there is a very different analysis, though more complex and nuanced, and you're hearing is on this channel. What experience seems to have taught me is not so much that calorie-consuming exercise drops weight, but that being ON YOUR FEET really does. I had a series of jobs, from about mid-2005 through mid-2016, where I was on my feet for a lot of the day, about four to weight hours, and I definitely lost weight as a result, and quite quickly.
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